Fed Up Movie - hidden sugars
Girlheidi
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Having read a Reddit about obesity in various countries, someone up thread referenced the movie Fed Up - so we watched it yesterday. It's about sugar in processed food and the food industry. That was a bit of an eye opener.
Ever wondered why there is no recommended daily intake for sugar on packaging like there is for every other food group? All to do with politics. I even googled what is the RDA for sugar and struggled to get an answer.
Worth watching for sure.
Ever wondered why there is no recommended daily intake for sugar on packaging like there is for every other food group? All to do with politics. I even googled what is the RDA for sugar and struggled to get an answer.
Worth watching for sure.
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FDA recommendations:
Most Americans exceed the recommended limits for added sugars in the diet.
On average, Americans consume more than 13% of total calories (or almost
270 calories) per day from added sugars, with intakes particularly high among
children, adolescents, and young adults. The main sources of added sugars
in U.S. diet are sugar-sweetened beverages, desserts, and sweets.
• Diets lower in added sugars and higher in nutrient-dense foods and
beverages can reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease.
• The Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommends consuming less than
10% of calories per day from added sugars. The guidelines also note
that many foods and beverages that contain added sugars also tend to be
high in calories and provide few or no important nutrients or dietary fiber.
• Diets higher in both added and naturally occurring sugars can increase
the risk of developing cavities (also known as “dental caries”).18 -
Having read a Reddit about obesity in various countries, someone up thread referenced the movie Fed Up - so we watched it yesterday. It's about sugar in processed food and the food industry. That was a bit of an eye opener.
Ever wondered why there is no recommended daily intake for sugar on packaging like there is for every other food group? All to do with politics. I even googled what is the RDA for sugar and struggled to get an answer.
Worth watching for sure.
if you are interested in facts and science-based information, you should not be getting your info from advocacy documentaries...Fed Up especially is known as having a lot of BS...here are a few reasons why...
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-the-movie-fed-up-make-sense/
here is just a snippet from the website above:
This webpage lists per capita sugar consumption by country, and it clearly does not correlate with rates of obesity in those countries. Countries with higher per capita sugar consumption than the US include Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belarus, Belgium, Brazil, Chile, Denmark, Estonia, France, Georgia, Germany, Iceland, Malaysia, Malta, Mexico, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Slovakia, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine, UK, and Venezuela. According to this source there are 17 countries with higher rates of obesity than the US. Not a single one of those countries has a higher per capita sugar consumption than the US.
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Having read a Reddit about obesity in various countries, someone up thread referenced the movie Fed Up - so we watched it yesterday. It's about sugar in processed food and the food industry. That was a bit of an eye opener.
Ever wondered why there is no recommended daily intake for sugar on packaging like there is for every other food group? All to do with politics. I even googled what is the RDA for sugar and struggled to get an answer.
Worth watching for sure.
New label changes are being phased in now.
https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/changes-nutrition-facts-label
The new label is already appearing on packages even before it is required to be used. Manufacturers with $10 million or more in annual sales must switch to the new label by January 1, 2020; manufacturers with less than $10 million in annual food sales have until January 1, 2021 to comply. Manufacturers of most single-ingredient sugars such as honey and maple syrup and certain cranberry products have until July 1, 2021 to make the changes. Manufacturers of certain flavored dried cranberries have until July 1, 2020 to make the changes.
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Do you think that example is for a real product? If yes, what do you think it is?
My guess would be some type of granola cereal.2 -
Read the posted critique from Muscleflex.
Non scientific sample of 1...if I am trying to hit a net calorie number its 10x harder if I eat high calorie sugary stuff because I get hungry again faster.
I suspect sugar is correlated with obesity. But its probably also related to not getting cals from vegetables, protein and healthy fat which keep you full longer.
There's an argument that the 80s, 90s low fat craze was actually very counter productive because people amped sugar to make stuff taste better with less fat. But ultimately upped calories as a result.
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jhanleybrown wrote: »Read the posted critique from Muscleflex.
Non scientific sample of 1...if I am trying to hit a net calorie number its 10x harder if I eat high calorie sugary stuff because I get hungry again faster.
I suspect sugar is correlated with obesity. But its probably also related to not getting cals from vegetables, protein and healthy fat which keep you full longer.
There's an argument that the 80s, 90s low fat craze was actually very counter productive because people amped sugar to make stuff taste better with less fat. But ultimately upped calories as a result.
People did not actually eat low fat in the '80s and '90s. The amount of cals from fat that people ate continued to increase.
For me "high calorie sugary stuff" typically would have about half its cals from fat, also. That they have fat doesn't cause those foods to be particularly satiating for me, but I can include them in moderation without being hungry if my overall diet is sensible.11 -
I get kind of fed up with these sugar conspiracies. If you want to point a finger at beverages with sugar you might have a valid point. They can easily add a lot of calories to a day and be little better than water for keeping a person sated. Otherwise unless a person is hitting the cotton candy or some similar pure sugar food all day I think it is fair to say that multiple macros are making us fat if we consume too many of them. I personally and often consumed way too many "healthy" foods. Should we start looking for foods with hidden almonds in them?34
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Oh my god hidden almonds are the worst!19
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My favorite food movie had to to with liver, fava beans. and a nice chianti.
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Humans aren't fattening!2
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Sugar, so vilified. I think of sugar and butter (fat) as the ultimate fraternal twins working together to do a delightful job of making the world fat/obese if not eaten in moderation. But the issue is of course on people not the sugar and or butter.
Yet the amount of sugar in various forms that are in soda, pop, cola whatever one calls it depending on where one is from is startling. And the average amount that many people drink of it per day. This is a true situation, back in 1997 we moved from IL to Florida. And I was totally surprised by the fact at that time, both by where I worked and in many grocery stores there was many choices of soda to drink. Unless you were looking for any that were diet of any sort. After about two months of bugging the cafeteria manager they finally started buying diet coke and diet pepsi. And I think it was about a year before they had in fountains. Trying to find brewed unsweetened ice tea while out to eat was slow to happen as well.3 -
maureenkhilde wrote: »Sugar, so vilified. I think of sugar and butter (fat) as the ultimate fraternal twins working together to do a delightful job of making the world fat/obese if not eaten in moderation. But the issue is of course on people not the sugar and or butter.
Yet the amount of sugar in various forms that are in soda, pop, cola whatever one calls it depending on where one is from is startling. And the average amount that many people drink of it per day. This is a true situation, back in 1997 we moved from IL to Florida. And I was totally surprised by the fact at that time, both by where I worked and in many grocery stores there was many choices of soda to drink. Unless you were looking for any that were diet of any sort. After about two months of bugging the cafeteria manager they finally started buying diet coke and diet pepsi. And I think it was about a year before they had in fountains. Trying to find brewed unsweetened ice tea while out to eat was slow to happen as well.
This is actually why I think the sugar numbers for the population as a whole are misleading.
The biggest source of added sugar in the US diet is sweetened drinks, people who consume sugary soda tend to have a pattern where the biggest consumers consume a huge, crazy amount, a larger amount of users consume moderate amounts, and many people consume none.
So if the numbers are 13% on average (with under 10% recommended), I bet if one excluded the people who drink a lot of sugary beverages, the numbers would be a lot less, perhaps even within the 10%.
Granted, sugar or no, the US diet is too caloric on average, but if you look at the sources of that and which ones have been increasing, the focus on sugar is misplaced, it's a lot more wide-ranging in the cause (including, for example, added fat as a significant source).
This is one reason all the "documentaries" that try to pinpoint one food scapegoat are so misleading and unhelpful.10 -
There is something eerily creepy about the way that you worded this that makes me believe you have done this before...12 -
There is something eerily creepy about the way that you worded this that makes me believe you have done this before...
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I just really amuses me about how people want to demonize sugar as the devil... I don't drink soft drinks regularly (I might have 1 or 2 a year and those more often than not will be diet drinks), I don't drink sweet tea and I rarely eat dessert - yet I was obese! Where's all that sugar that made me fat?!?!?!?13
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I just really amuses me about how people want to demonize sugar as the devil... I don't drink soft drinks regularly (I might have 1 or 2 a year and those more often than not will be diet drinks), I don't drink sweet tea and I rarely eat dessert - yet I was obese! Where's all that sugar that made me fat?!?!?!?
Because if it's not sugar....it's them.2 -
I just really amuses me about how people want to demonize sugar as the devil... I don't drink soft drinks regularly (I might have 1 or 2 a year and those more often than not will be diet drinks), I don't drink sweet tea and I rarely eat dessert - yet I was obese! Where's all that sugar that made me fat?!?!?!?
It's hidden sugar! Probably disguised as vegetables or something, it's so sneaky. 😉15
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