I think I have to start eating Meat again
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katermari
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two years ago I decided to see how long I could go without eating meat (fish only) I quickly learned about supplementing with b12, over the past two years my body has started to hate me.
My hair is falling out (breaking) I am exhausted, My skin is garbage, I am always hungry, I haven't added any muscle mass, and the list goes on.
Now I know you do not need animal protein to survive, BUT I cannot afford all the supplements I need to keep my body going.
Please note, I do not like most veggies, or fruits I have a very bland boring pallet.
My hair is falling out (breaking) I am exhausted, My skin is garbage, I am always hungry, I haven't added any muscle mass, and the list goes on.
Now I know you do not need animal protein to survive, BUT I cannot afford all the supplements I need to keep my body going.
Please note, I do not like most veggies, or fruits I have a very bland boring pallet.
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Are you getting enough plant protein and healthy fats? I have read similar stories from vegans/vegetarians before so maybe it’s just not for you but if you aren’t getting enough protein and fats that’ll definitely cause issues that you may be able to correct while still staying away from meat.4
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Hi! Perhaps you are not getting enough iron, protein and/or fat? Or maybe the proteins you are choosing don't have all the amino acids/are not complete proteins? It might be useful to pop into your library and grab some reading material as well as tracking your macros.2
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My hair is falling out (breaking) I am exhausted, My skin is garbage, I am always hungry, I haven't added any muscle mass, and the list goes on.
Now I know you do not need animal protein to survive, BUT I cannot afford all the supplements I need to keep my body going.
This sounds like you’re just not eating enough. Do you log your food, and if so how many calories do you eat?
Considering it’s so bad that your hair is falling out and you’re always exhausted, I would go to your doctor to check that you don’t have a health problem.
If you don’t particularly want to start eating meat again, feel free to look at my food diary. I haven’t eaten meat since I was a child, but I still managed to gain a lot of weight (too much!) without supplements.11 -
I do not care if you start eating meat again but what you really need to do is see a doctor right away and get tested. While there ask for a referral to a registered dietitian (if you are in the US, otherwise ask for a qualified nutritionist).
Something is wrong with how you have been eating and it has potentially gotten to a fairly bad place. Your macros are too low and/or if you have been trying to lose weight you may be eating too little overall. I would not consider this something you should try to fix yourself or via MFP.10 -
You don't have your diary open so it's difficult to give specific advice. However, it should be quite possible to get adequate protein (100g+/day) even on a plant-based diet, and I didn't do any specific supplementing though I did eat almost everything with nutritional yeast on it.
If you aren't happy with your vegetarian diet, then by all means change it to be whatever you want.6 -
ThatJuJitsuWoman wrote: »My hair is falling out (breaking) I am exhausted, My skin is garbage, I am always hungry, I haven't added any muscle mass, and the list goes on.
Now I know you do not need animal protein to survive, BUT I cannot afford all the supplements I need to keep my body going.
This sounds like you’re just not eating enough. Do you log your food, and if so how many calories do you eat?
Considering it’s so bad that your hair is falling out and you’re always exhausted, I would go to your doctor to check that you don’t have a health problem.
If you don’t particularly want to start eating meat again, feel free to look at my food diary. I haven’t eaten meat since I was a child, but I still managed to gain a lot of weight (too much!) without supplements.
i probably am not eating enough what so ever, i have managed to adapt to some bad bad bad habits. i eat so well all day, then night time hits and once my hubby is alseep i binge on bad things (chocolate, chips, cookies, ice cream)
i have a doctor appointment tuesday, it cant come sooner.5 -
ThatJuJitsuWoman wrote: »My hair is falling out (breaking) I am exhausted, My skin is garbage, I am always hungry, I haven't added any muscle mass, and the list goes on.
Now I know you do not need animal protein to survive, BUT I cannot afford all the supplements I need to keep my body going.
This sounds like you’re just not eating enough. Do you log your food, and if so how many calories do you eat?
Considering it’s so bad that your hair is falling out and you’re always exhausted, I would go to your doctor to check that you don’t have a health problem.
If you don’t particularly want to start eating meat again, feel free to look at my food diary. I haven’t eaten meat since I was a child, but I still managed to gain a lot of weight (too much!) without supplements.
i probably am not eating enough what so ever, i have managed to adapt to some bad bad bad habits. i eat so well all day, then night time hits and once my hubby is alseep i binge on bad things (chocolate, chips, cookies, ice cream)
i have a doctor appointment tuesday, it cant come sooner.
You definitely do not have a healthy relationship with food. Good and bad are words to describe the taste of food not the food itself. There are reasons to limit high calorie treat food but in moderation and balance everything is fine.17 -
ThatJuJitsuWoman wrote: »My hair is falling out (breaking) I am exhausted, My skin is garbage, I am always hungry, I haven't added any muscle mass, and the list goes on.
Now I know you do not need animal protein to survive, BUT I cannot afford all the supplements I need to keep my body going.
This sounds like you’re just not eating enough. Do you log your food, and if so how many calories do you eat?
Considering it’s so bad that your hair is falling out and you’re always exhausted, I would go to your doctor to check that you don’t have a health problem.
If you don’t particularly want to start eating meat again, feel free to look at my food diary. I haven’t eaten meat since I was a child, but I still managed to gain a lot of weight (too much!) without supplements.
i probably am not eating enough what so ever, i have managed to adapt to some bad bad bad habits. i eat so well all day, then night time hits and once my hubby is alseep i binge on bad things (chocolate, chips, cookies, ice cream)
i have a doctor appointment tuesday, it cant come sooner.
You definitely do not have a healthy relationship with food. Good and bad are words to describe the taste of food not the food itself. There are reasons to limit high calorie treat food but in moderation and balance everything is fine.
^^^This...4 -
This happened to my husband's coworker and his doctor told him to start eating meat. His body is much healthier now. I'm glad you're getting checked out by the doctor. Let us know what he/she says.2
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If you eat fish and supplement B12 (and especially if you eat eggs and dairy too), it's hard to imagine the issue is about protein or not eating non-fish meat. (Note: I think it's entirely possible to have a super healthy diet with no animal products at all, but it does take a bit of extra planning and thought, at least at first.) In fact, a pescetarian diet should not require any supplements beyond what you would otherwise take.
It sounds more like it might be not eating enough or, perhaps, other holes in the diet (like the lack of veg and fruit).7 -
Meat isn't necessary, nor are expensive supplements, but you do need to eat a balanced diet - pulses, avocados, nuts, fruit, vegetables (to be honest, you should be eating all of those regardless of whether or not you eat meat). And making sure you are eating enough of those things during the day that you aren't starving - which will lead to binging on junk food. If you are not getting enough vitamins/nutrients through your diet you will a) get cravings, and b) get ill.9
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This happened to my husband's coworker and his doctor told him to start eating meat. His body is much healthier now. I'm glad you're getting checked out by the doctor. Let us know what he/she says.
Chances are they didn't become "healthy" from eating meat, but they were eating more as the OP agrees she is not eating well or enough. There are really no health benefits to meat that you can't get from plants (except b12 which is really not from meat but is a byproduct of bacteria and this can be supplemented easily).5 -
If you eat fish and supplement B12 (and especially if you eat eggs and dairy too), it's hard to imagine the issue is about protein or not eating non-fish meat. (Note: I think it's entirely possible to have a super healthy diet with no animal products at all, but it does take a bit of extra planning and thought, at least at first.) In fact, a pescetarian diet should not require any supplements beyond what you would otherwise take.
It sounds more like it might be not eating enough or, perhaps, other holes in the diet (like the lack of veg and fruit).
That was my gut reaction to the first post too. The OP's second reply reinforced it.9 -
Non-diet/food related, maybe ask your doctor to test your thyroid function. The symptoms you describe could also be related to a malfunctioning thyroid.6
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CoffeeTyme2012 wrote: »Non-diet/food related, maybe ask your doctor to test your thyroid function. The symptoms you describe could also be related to a malfunctioning thyroid.
This was my thought exactly. All symptoms of low thyroid or starvation. Hopefully the doc will have some insights. Hope you feel better soon!
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i dont eat ultra processed foods, i eat the same boring foods. ie brocolli asparagus green beans zucchini0 -
i dont eat ultra processed foods, i eat the same boring foods. ie brocolli asparagus green beans zucchini
You did mention you binge on cookies, chocolate, chips and ice cream. Those are ultra processed and can blunt your perception of what food should taste like. None of the foods you just mentioned need to be boring. It may be how they are prepared that you consider them boring. Roasting them can develop flavors that make them more appealing. Instead of using pasta for spaghetti or lasagna use vegetables with the marinara or sauce of your choice. There are some great creative recipes out there as well so get creative!4 -
i dont eat ultra processed foods, i eat the same boring foods. ie brocolli asparagus green beans zucchini
When you see your doctor you should ask for a therapy referral.5 -
i dont eat ultra processed foods, i eat the same boring foods. ie brocolli asparagus green beans zucchini
You did mention you binge on cookies, chocolate, chips and ice cream. Those are ultra processed and can blunt your perception of what food should taste like. None of the foods you just mentioned need to be boring. It may be how they are prepared that you consider them boring. Roasting them can develop flavors that make them more appealing. Instead of using pasta for spaghetti or lasagna use vegetables with the marinara or sauce of your choice. There are some great creative recipes out there as well so get creative!
thank you!1
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