Processed food rant
armyvet25
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Ok, my intermittent/fasting sometimes interferes with my eating with my wife, she won't be home till just after my trough period, if I end my fast now which completes my 16hrs, no problem, I let it go longer and adjust my daily intake times, but, thought I'd have a teeny tiny teensy itsy bitsy snack to stave off any cravings, wife brought home a turkey snack she thought I might want and I wasn't familiar with the nutrient label so thought I'd take a look before plopping in my gullet, HOLY NAKED BATMAN ON A STICK...70 calories and 440mg sodium on this tiny little TURKEY TURD! In the garbage bin with it.
I hardly touch anything processed for this reason. To be honest, my one weakness is frozen pizza's, going to start making and freezing my own low cal/carb pizza's.
I hardly touch anything processed for this reason. To be honest, my one weakness is frozen pizza's, going to start making and freezing my own low cal/carb pizza's.
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70 calories and 440mg sodium
I don't see any problem with that. Unless you have a medically necessary reason to be on low-sodium, I guess.
It was nice of your wife to buy you a treat. I suspect she was trying to buy something that fit into your new way of eating. It wasn't Reese's peanut butter cups or anything. (Although I'd rather have Reese's!
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I make homemade naan bread. It’s sort of a PITA (pun intended) but one recipe makes a huge batch and they are about seventy calories apiece. Pull one out of the freezer, slap some tomato paste, pizza spice, a few grams of fresh mozarella and pepperoni and you have a fabulous little personal sized pizza for under 250 calories.11
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I don't get it. The main ingredients are turkey, honey, water, and salt, so it's mostly "real" ingredients. 70 calories isn't bad for 28g of snack, especially one with this much protein.
Heck, I think I might try these. Thanks for the tip!39 -
they essentially make jerky by coating meats in salt and then cooking for long/low heat - so yeah, sodium is going to be high...10
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Almost all of your "healthy" food is processed in one way or another, so it's not true that processed food is high in calorie. That turkey snack is probably quite high in protein, and 70 cals is actually quite reasonable for a snack, unless your calorie goals are very very low.12
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springlering62 wrote: »I make homemade naan bread. It’s sort of a PITA (pun intended) but one recipe makes a huge batch and they are about seventy calories apiece. Pull one out of the freezer, slap some tomato paste, pizza spice, a few grams of fresh mozarella and pepperoni and you have a fabulous little personal sized pizza for under 250 calories.
Can you please share you naan recipe?!
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Normally I would say, "rant away brother!". Though, this is a small thing to rant about. If you dont like the store version, make your own from leaner meat....1
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wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.14
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wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
I hope you feel better after getting that out (sincerely, no sarcasm, for a change). It's a process. Chalk it up to a lesson learned about the importance of reading the nutrition facts before eating and carry on. You didn't eat it, so no fuss. This is why I always liked to pre-log my days as much as possible.8 -
wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
Community doesn't have to cheer on things they see as a potential problem. I was very concerned that you are time restricted eating, doing a weekly 36 hour fast, and also watching sodium. If you need to watch sodium for your health than you can excuse the community for not knowing that in advance. Many people mistakenly think they need to restrict it because MFP sets a limit.
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This thread is typical of most forums, when we type, there is no voice inflection, body language etc, so typing can be mis-identified as anger, rage, without any of that being implied, I guess I need emoji's or something to be more transparent.13
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This thread is typical of most forums, when we type, there is no voice inflection, body language etc, so typing can be mis-identified as anger, rage, without any of that being implied, I guess I need emoji's or something to be more transparent.
True dat. I actually thought "trough" in your OP was a typo, and couldn't figure out what you meant.1 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »This thread is typical of most forums, when we type, there is no voice inflection, body language etc, so typing can be mis-identified as anger, rage, without any of that being implied, I guess I need emoji's or something to be more transparent.
True dat. I actually thought "trough" in your OP was a typo, and couldn't figure out what you meant.
p.s. I run not walk past Reese's in stores lol.2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »This thread is typical of most forums, when we type, there is no voice inflection, body language etc, so typing can be mis-identified as anger, rage, without any of that being implied, I guess I need emoji's or something to be more transparent.
True dat. I actually thought "trough" in your OP was a typo, and couldn't figure out what you meant.
p.s. I run not walk past Reese's in stores lol.
I order my groceries online, and do curbside pick-up so I don't even see them (or the chips, or the ice cream, or the....)!4 -
This thread is typical of most forums, when we type, there is no voice inflection, body language etc, so typing can be mis-identified as anger, rage, without any of that being implied, I guess I need emoji's or something to be more transparent.
Some people are serial emoji abusers (I may or may not fall into this category... depends on who you ask) but a well-placed or 
every now and then does help the more literal among us get the drift.
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just_Tomek wrote: »Wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
We all get angry when hungry and with your "diet" you must be hungry 16 hours of the day lol
Not always.... not going to derail the thread on fasting studies, OP... Here is the context of my attitude.... general apathy...0 -
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I order my groceries online, and do curbside pick-up so I don't even see them (or the chips, or the ice cream, or the....)![/quote]
hahaha, I like testing myself, I don't have too many extreme food cravings, maybe Clark Bars (old school) otherwise I can walk the junk food isles with no problems, my weight issue has always been portion control.
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psychod787 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »Wound tight?? nice community(sarc) wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
We all get angry when hungry and with your "diet" you must be hungry 16 hours of the day lol
Not always.... not going to derail the thread on fasting studies, OP... Here is the context of my attitude.... general apathy...
derail away, I usually end up derailing my own threads, I can appreciate most points of view. I researched the fasting phenomenon and even consulted my own physician first, with all studies, some say good, some say bad, wasn't all that long ago we as a race thought smoking was good for you, or cocaine in soda lol.0 -
just_Tomek wrote: »Wound tight?? nice community(sarc) wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
We all get angry when hungry and with your "diet" you must be hungry 16 hours of the day lol
Actually, not too bad, just disgusted with all the crap they put in processed food these days, I actually wasn't mad when I posted it, tried to inject some humor as i was typing ie: turd, trough, etc
There really isn't a lot of crap in that though...it's jerky, so it's going to be high in sodium as all jerky is pretty high in sodium. But ingredient wise, it's pretty much Turkey, water, and sodium. Sodium in and of itself isn't "crap"...I realize you have a reason to watch it (as do I), but sodium is actually an essential electrolyte and a good preservative for things like jerky.13 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »Wound tight?? nice community(sarc) wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
We all get angry when hungry and with your "diet" you must be hungry 16 hours of the day lol
Actually, not too bad, just disgusted with all the crap they put in processed food these days, I actually wasn't mad when I posted it, tried to inject some humor as i was typing ie: turd, trough, etc
There really isn't a lot of crap in that though...it's jerky, so it's going to be high in sodium as all jerky is pretty high in sodium. But ingredient wise, it's pretty much Turkey, water, and sodium. Sodium in and of itself isn't "crap"...I realize you have a reason to watch it (as do I), but sodium is actually an essential electrolyte and a good preservative for things like jerky.
agree, was only stating "crap" about processed foods in general as a lot of them have many added chemicals in the use of preserving shelf life, I understand the needs of sodium, but also my limitations, which are obviously not the same as everyone else.
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This thread is typical of most forums, when we type, there is no voice inflection, body language etc, so typing can be mis-identified as anger, rage, without any of that being implied, I guess I need emoji's or something to be more transparent.
Also typical in that you only gave out partial info in your original post. There's no reason for someone not to eat that turkey stick unless they have a condition such as you do... which you didn't mention until like ten posts later.12 -
psychod787 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »Wound tight?? nice community(sarc) wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
We all get angry when hungry and with your "diet" you must be hungry 16 hours of the day lol
Not always.... not going to derail the thread on fasting studies, OP... Here is the context of my attitude.... general apathy...
They are available on Google. Some people so well fasting, others not so much. It's a very individual thing. Some people are just wired to have a lower appetite and can skip meals. They have trouble eating in the morning. Some, dont get hungry until after they eat. For others, it allows larger more satisfying meals while in a deficit or maintaining. They like certain foods, and my eating less meals,they can include them. 5:2 protocols allow people to only have to "diet" 2 days a week. It's all about what makes a person more adherent to a reduced calorie intake.1 -
might i suggest to not sweat the small stuff...5
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cwolfman13 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »Wound tight?? nice community(sarc) wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
We all get angry when hungry and with your "diet" you must be hungry 16 hours of the day lol
Actually, not too bad, just disgusted with all the crap they put in processed food these days, I actually wasn't mad when I posted it, tried to inject some humor as i was typing ie: turd, trough, etc
There really isn't a lot of crap in that though...it's jerky, so it's going to be high in sodium as all jerky is pretty high in sodium. But ingredient wise, it's pretty much Turkey, water, and sodium. Sodium in and of itself isn't "crap"...I realize you have a reason to watch it (as do I), but sodium is actually an essential electrolyte and a good preservative for things like jerky.
agree, was only stating "crap" about processed foods in general as a lot of them have many added chemicals in the use of preserving shelf life, I understand the needs of sodium, but also my limitations, which are obviously not the same as everyone else.
In what way does having preservatives make something "crap"?9 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »Wound tight?? nice community(sarc) wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
We all get angry when hungry and with your "diet" you must be hungry 16 hours of the day lol
Actually, not too bad, just disgusted with all the crap they put in processed food these days, I actually wasn't mad when I posted it, tried to inject some humor as i was typing ie: turd, trough, etc
There really isn't a lot of crap in that though...it's jerky, so it's going to be high in sodium as all jerky is pretty high in sodium. But ingredient wise, it's pretty much Turkey, water, and sodium. Sodium in and of itself isn't "crap"...I realize you have a reason to watch it (as do I), but sodium is actually an essential electrolyte and a good preservative for things like jerky.
agree, was only stating "crap" about processed foods in general as a lot of them have many added chemicals in the use of preserving shelf life, I understand the needs of sodium, but also my limitations, which are obviously not the same as everyone else.
In what way does having preservatives make something "crap"?
Adding cultures to milk to make yogurt is a form of adding a preservative. It just happens to be from bacteria. So, agreed.4 -
psychod787 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »Wound tight?? nice community(sarc) wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
We all get angry when hungry and with your "diet" you must be hungry 16 hours of the day lol
Actually, not too bad, just disgusted with all the crap they put in processed food these days, I actually wasn't mad when I posted it, tried to inject some humor as i was typing ie: turd, trough, etc
There really isn't a lot of crap in that though...it's jerky, so it's going to be high in sodium as all jerky is pretty high in sodium. But ingredient wise, it's pretty much Turkey, water, and sodium. Sodium in and of itself isn't "crap"...I realize you have a reason to watch it (as do I), but sodium is actually an essential electrolyte and a good preservative for things like jerky.
agree, was only stating "crap" about processed foods in general as a lot of them have many added chemicals in the use of preserving shelf life, I understand the needs of sodium, but also my limitations, which are obviously not the same as everyone else.
In what way does having preservatives make something "crap"?
Adding cultures to milk to make yogurt is a form of adding a preservative. It just happens to be from bacteria. So, agreed.
Oh joy, we're winding up for another "processed" vs "ultra-processed" debate. Shields up! (See? Winky face.) 13 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »Wound tight?? nice community(sarc) wife didn't buy it, was given to her, she passed it on, her feelings won't be hurt. I have Venous Edema in both legs, sodium causes severe swelling, I monitor all my sodium intake. I'm trying to watch all calories and sodium, I plan my routine for the entire day at the start, otherwise just eating and at the last meal there won't be enough left for the final meal, so yes, at 300+lbs-prediabetic-poor health, I scrutinize every little thing, it all adds up.
We all get angry when hungry and with your "diet" you must be hungry 16 hours of the day lol
Actually, not too bad, just disgusted with all the crap they put in processed food these days, I actually wasn't mad when I posted it, tried to inject some humor as i was typing ie: turd, trough, etc
There really isn't a lot of crap in that though...it's jerky, so it's going to be high in sodium as all jerky is pretty high in sodium. But ingredient wise, it's pretty much Turkey, water, and sodium. Sodium in and of itself isn't "crap"...I realize you have a reason to watch it (as do I), but sodium is actually an essential electrolyte and a good preservative for things like jerky.
agree, was only stating "crap" about processed foods in general as a lot of them have many added chemicals in the use of preserving shelf life, I understand the needs of sodium, but also my limitations, which are obviously not the same as everyone else.
In what way does having preservatives make something "crap"?
It would take a whole new thread to go into healthy vs harmful preservatives found in processed foods, just because the FDA approves something, doesn't make it healthy. You'll have to weed throughout the millions of web articles, find some scholarly sites for decent info on additives, many of the chemicals are harmful and cause lasting health issues. Most Nutritionist/Physicians tend to agree.
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First of all, all processed food have a ton of salt. "No Added Salt" is relatively new concept.0
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candylilacs wrote: »First of all, all processed food have a ton of salt. "No Added Salt" is relatively new concept.
and...most natural foods have enough natural salt in them0
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