Why did I gain 2 pounds overnight?

NovusDies · January 2020

You can't just wake up one morning and decide that your body is sending you the correct signals for intuitive eating. That makes no sense.

You should use reason and logic to make decisions that are best for your body. I am an emotional non-eater. My hunger disappears during times of emotional distress like losing a loved one. Do you think it is wise for me to go a week without food when my family needs me to be there for them?

Establish a habit of proper eating and exercise. Fuel yourself based on common sense and well-defined research. Assuming you are logging somewhat accurately you have to be burning far more calories than you consume. A continued pattern of this and you will end up very sick. Your body is very resilient until it isn't.

Listening to your body is not a worthwhile accomplishment. Getting to a healthy weight and doing it in a healthy fashion is.

Your posts are alarming. I do not want to say 'disordered' but perhaps I should be.

Nony_Mouse · January 2020

https://bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html/

conniemaxwell5 · January 2020

remyrunnels1 wrote: »

Thank you for your concern. I am eating enough, I feel full every day. My biggest thing now is to listen to my body and I eat when I feel hungry. I have just become vegetarian (Thanksgiving 2019) the weight didn’t come off all at once, I have been working on weight loss for years now. What started my -1 pound a day was changing my beliefs! (Believe it or not) it was around the same time I gave up meat. Something inside clicked and I said, “I’m worth it!” So I began caring for myself not because I wanted to be skinny (even in my teens as a size 4, I have always had a huge bottom and have come to terms with the fact that I am very curvy and will never be “skinny” ) I’m 5’4 and very overweight. So I started by cutting portions to kids sized plates, wasn’t counting calories then just watching portions (over the course of about a year I lost 20-30 pounds or so) then last thanksgiving, I started watching steps (10k was my goal) but after a week of making that I added MyFitnessPal and began counting every calorie. As a SAHM of 3 homeschooled littles I’m always busy so I knew I had to do it at home. So I began running while I was doing dishes (it is apparently very funny because for the first few days I had my whole family laughing 😂) but I stuck with that and got down under 200 around the first of this month! That motivated me on a whole new level ( I made a promise to my body to not ever see THAT number again.) water fasts are healthy and again, I always listen to my body, on that 5 day fast I was aiming for 7 days but started feeling dizzy so I ate vegetable soup then moved on to fruit and veggies the next day. I know the actual fat I personally carry is from my emotions. That’s what I’ve been working on. I’m not obsessed with losing weight for others, I’m focused on getting healthy for me. So I will not hurt my body anymore than I did in the past (by allowing my emotions to be pushed down by food.) I only wrote this to see if anyone experienced anything similar. Thank you to the person who suggested maybe I need to wait til I have a bowl movement (there’s just no nice way of saying that is there 😂) because I did eat “heavy” food yesterday compared to the standard salad and veggies! (The kids wanted pizza so I had two slices and had a cupcake with them so that was a lot of processed food high in sugar too now that I’m thinking of it! Also, I drink a TON of water to help rid toxins that I know I have built up. I run so much but not all at once, like a mile here, two miles there throughout the day when I have time because it relaxes me, I put in my earphones and just zone out ❤️ I also track everything! 😂 my phone looks like I’m a scientist or something with all my graphs. I can see what I eat, how much I eat, when I exercise and all that. Maybe I’ll start to ease my calories back up but now that I’m at peace emotionally, I don’t have the urge to over eat. It reminds me of Seven of Nine from Star Trek Voyager (the best Star Trek EVER!) when she says she doesn’t require nourishment at this time. Anyway, thank you again for replying. You are all so sweet to have answered so wholeheartedly. 🤗 😘

Just because you don't feel hunger doesn't mean you are eating enough. Calculate your total daily energy expenditure (TDEE) with this calculator - https://tdeecalculator.net/. It will tell you approximately how many calories you would need to eat daily to MAINTAIN your current weight.

One pound = 3500 calories, so for a healthy weight loss of 1-2 pounds a week, you should aim for a deficit of 500-1000 calories a day. For example, if your TDEE is 2500 calories, you should eat 1500 calories a day to lose 2 pounds a week, or 2000 calories a day to lose 1 pound a week.

You said you run while you are doing dishes. Are you running in place? How does that equate to 4-8 miles?

wmd1979 · January 2020

I'm sorry, but I am calling *kitten*. Anyone with your stats eating only 800-1000 calories daily over a period of months would not have the energy to run 4-8 miles a day, they would be permanently exhausted. I also don't believe for a second that anyone eating 800 calories a day over a long period of time is not hungry. Everything from the initial post, to the long winded reply just sounds like a cry for attention to me. As stated multiple times above, there is so much wrong with your posts that its almost ridiculous to even try to respond to it all. This is just a big waste of everyone's time.

lgfrie · January 2020

remyrunnels1 wrote: »

Thank you for your concern. I am eating enough, I feel full every day.

Nope, sorry. You are not eating enough. You are basically crash dieting over an extended period of time while simultaneously engaging in athlete-level daily exercise. You're on a risky, unsustainable path. Any doctor or nutritionist would tell you that. Literally, all of them would tell you that.

Doesn't matter whether you feel full or not. What if you feel full because your body is consuming its own muscle to keep itself fueled while you starve it? That happens.

Go to the MFP Goals tool and get yourself a proper calorie target. I put your weight into TDEEcalculator.net and assumed average height, age, etc., I got a break-even of 2537 calories for moderate exercise, even though you're really doing "heavy exercise" and should have a higher number (2824). If 2,537 is your break-even, 1,537 the rock bottom minimum daily caloric intake anyone would consider safe.

You've got a great 43 pound achievement under your belt, now it's time for Phase II: making sure you're getting healthier, not just thinner.

WinoGelato · January 2020

remyrunnels1 wrote: »

Thank you for your concern. I am eating enough, I feel full every day. My biggest thing now is to listen to my body and I eat when I feel hungry. I have just become vegetarian (Thanksgiving 2019) the weight didn’t come off all at once, I have been working on weight loss for years now. What started my -1 pound a day was changing my beliefs! (Believe it or not) it was around the same time I gave up meat. Something inside clicked and I said, “I’m worth it!” So I began caring for myself not because I wanted to be skinny (even in my teens as a size 4, I have always had a huge bottom and have come to terms with the fact that I am very curvy and will never be “skinny” ) I’m 5’4 and very overweight. So I started by cutting portions to kids sized plates, wasn’t counting calories then just watching portions (over the course of about a year I lost 20-30 pounds or so) then last thanksgiving, I started watching steps (10k was my goal) but after a week of making that I added MyFitnessPal and began counting every calorie. As a SAHM of 3 homeschooled littles I’m always busy so I knew I had to do it at home. So I began running while I was doing dishes (it is apparently very funny because for the first few days I had my whole family laughing 😂) but I stuck with that and got down under 200 around the first of this month! That motivated me on a whole new level ( I made a promise to my body to not ever see THAT number again.) water fasts are healthy and again, I always listen to my body, on that 5 day fast I was aiming for 7 days but started feeling dizzy so I ate vegetable soup then moved on to fruit and veggies the next day. I know the actual fat I personally carry is from my emotions. That’s what I’ve been working on. I’m not obsessed with losing weight for others, I’m focused on getting healthy for me. So I will not hurt my body anymore than I did in the past (by allowing my emotions to be pushed down by food.) I only wrote this to see if anyone experienced anything similar. Thank you to the person who suggested maybe I need to wait til I have a bowl movement (there’s just no nice way of saying that is there 😂) because I did eat “heavy” food yesterday compared to the standard salad and veggies! (The kids wanted pizza so I had two slices and had a cupcake with them so that was a lot of processed food high in sugar too now that I’m thinking of it! Also, I drink a TON of water to help rid toxins that I know I have built up. I run so much but not all at once, like a mile here, two miles there throughout the day when I have time because it relaxes me, I put in my earphones and just zone out ❤️ I also track everything! 😂 my phone looks like I’m a scientist or something with all my graphs. I can see what I eat, how much I eat, when I exercise and all that. Maybe I’ll start to ease my calories back up but now that I’m at peace emotionally, I don’t have the urge to over eat. It reminds me of Seven of Nine from Star Trek Voyager (the best Star Trek EVER!) when she says she doesn’t require nourishment at this time. Anyway, thank you again for replying. You are all so sweet to have answered so wholeheartedly. 🤗 😘

This post is filled with concerning statements, but also woo and pseudoscience.

Your hunger signals are likely broken
Water fasts aren't healthy
Your body isn't filled with toxins
You say you want to get healthy for you, but what you're doing is the opposite of healthy.
You are starving yourself and you are going to crash, hard. Is that what you want for your children/family?

But I have to ask,... how do you run while doing dishes?

PAV8888 · January 2020

Deep breath everyone.

It really doesn't matter whether the Op runs the way we understand runs, or any other way.

Her loss record indicates that she is in an extremely steep and unsustainable therefore unhealthy (due to its size) deficit.

Appreciable results worth protecting so far.

Time to get smart and set up for the future. both to protect these results and to achieve even better ones.

Current course of action un-modified and unmoderated leads to either rebound weight gain or death from starvation.

So modification and achieving good results for the future is probably a better way to move forward!

Blessedbecca24 · January 2020

PAV8888 wrote: »

Deep breath everyone.

It really doesn't matter whether the Op runs the way we understand runs, or any other way.

Her loss record indicates that she is in an extremely steep and unsustainable therefore unhealthy (due to its size) deficit.

Appreciable results worth protecting so far.

Time to get smart and set up for the future. both to protect these results and to achieve even better ones.

Current course of action un-modified and unmoderated leads to either rebound weight gain or death from starvation.

So modification and achieving good results for the future is probably a better way to move forward!

Thanks for not simply attacking me. (If I was someone on the verge of an eating disorder as someone mentioned those replies may just make it worse) I only posted out of curiosity of my original question. My calories really aren’t that far off the recommendation but I do just feel full. Some days I do one meal and other days I break it down and even include snacks!

Do you have any advice on higher calorie meals that aren’t as filling?

On a side note about my runs, yes you can run in place while doing dishes but I also go outside and run around the block each day.

I was not going to reply again because people on here just seem mean and Uninviting but decided to check one more time and your reply seemed to come from a nice place and just wanted to say thank you for that.

lynn_glenmont · January 2020

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Lietchi wrote: »

I'm not answering your question, because there is another more pressing matter: you need to eat more!

Even an inactive sedentary woman shouldn't eat this little, let alone someone who's running 4-8 miles a day! And losing weight at a rate of one pound a day is way too fast! This is very dangerous behavior, you are endangering your health.
The last thing you should do is do a water fast, please don't.

I agree, with a caveat. OP should eat more IF she is currently weighing and logging everything she is currently eating. If she isn't weighing and logging everything, she should start there to insure she is actually eating the amount of calories she thinks she is.

If she has been losing a pound a day for more than six weeks (to get from 240 pounds to 197 pounds), that tells us clearly that she is currently eating far too little, without having to insist she use a food scale.

Nony_Mouse · January 2020

remyrunnels1 wrote: »

PAV8888 wrote: »

Deep breath everyone.

It really doesn't matter whether the Op runs the way we understand runs, or any other way.

Her loss record indicates that she is in an extremely steep and unsustainable therefore unhealthy (due to its size) deficit.

Appreciable results worth protecting so far.

Time to get smart and set up for the future. both to protect these results and to achieve even better ones.

Current course of action un-modified and unmoderated leads to either rebound weight gain or death from starvation.

So modification and achieving good results for the future is probably a better way to move forward!

Thanks for not simply attacking me. (If I was someone on the verge of an eating disorder as someone mentioned those replies may just make it worse) I only posted out of curiosity of my original question. My calories really aren’t that far off the recommendation but I do just feel full. Some days I do one meal and other days I break it down and even include snacks!

Do you have any advice on higher calorie meals that aren’t as filling?

On a side note about my runs, yes you can run in place while doing dishes but I also go outside and run around the block each day.

I was not going to reply again because people on here just seem mean and Uninviting but decided to check one more time and your reply seemed to come from a nice place and just wanted to say thank you for that.

No one was attacking you, they were pointing out that you are severely under eating, and that while you may not be feeling that yet, eventually it will have negative health consequences, potentially serious ones.

Some ideas for adding more calorie dense foods - cheese, nuts and nut butters, oils for cooking and dressings, butter, avocado, full fat dairy.

FoodBodyChanges · January 2020

It's totally normal for weight to fluctuate by up to several pounds daily. When I was younger, I would typically retain 6 pounds of water with my monthlies. Lycra and yoga pants hadn't been invented yet, so it really sucked, lol! Try weighing yourself every morning and evening to see trends. A note on all the folks saying you need more calories: If you are eating WFPB with zero added processed oils and lots of veggies, it is possible to get adequate vitamins, minerals, and proteins around 1,000 calories, maybe 1,200. And you can seriously stay quite full on such a diet due to the high amount of fiber. The remaining calories you need come from fat stores. So if that's you, more power to you. But.... if you're doing some version of portion control with standard American fare, listen to the advice to eat more.

Nony_Mouse · January 2020

FoodBodyChanges wrote: »

It's totally normal for weight to fluctuate by up to several pounds daily. When I was younger, I would typically retain 6 pounds of water with my monthlies. Lycra and yoga pants hadn't been invented yet, so it really sucked, lol! Try weighing yourself every morning and evening to see trends. A note on all the folks saying you need more calories: If you are eating WFPB with zero added processed oils and lots of veggies, it is possible to get adequate vitamins, minerals, and proteins around 1,000 calories, maybe 1,200. And you can seriously stay quite full on such a diet due to the high amount of fiber. The remaining calories you need come from fat stores. So if that's you, more power to you. But.... if you're doing some version of portion control with standard American fare, listen to the advice to eat more.

The remaining calories on a steep deficit won't just come from fat stores with a calorie deficit of that size, they'll also come from muscle (and that includes your heart).

AnnPT77 · January 2020

remyrunnels1 wrote: »

PAV8888 wrote: »

Deep breath everyone.

It really doesn't matter whether the Op runs the way we understand runs, or any other way.

Her loss record indicates that she is in an extremely steep and unsustainable therefore unhealthy (due to its size) deficit.

Appreciable results worth protecting so far.

Time to get smart and set up for the future. both to protect these results and to achieve even better ones.

Current course of action un-modified and unmoderated leads to either rebound weight gain or death from starvation.

So modification and achieving good results for the future is probably a better way to move forward!

Thanks for not simply attacking me. (If I was someone on the verge of an eating disorder as someone mentioned those replies may just make it worse) I only posted out of curiosity of my original question. My calories really aren’t that far off the recommendation but I do just feel full. Some days I do one meal and other days I break it down and even include snacks!

Do you have any advice on higher calorie meals that aren’t as filling?

On a side note about my runs, yes you can run in place while doing dishes but I also go outside and run around the block each day.

I was not going to reply again because people on here just seem mean and Uninviting but decided to check one more time and your reply seemed to come from a nice place and just wanted to say thank you for that.

If you're seeing a level of agitation or emotion in some of the posts, I think that's because some of us are sincerely worried about you. Try to think of me as your anxious MFP auntie, because at 64 I'm surely old enough to be!

If there were a pattern of pound-a-day loss over a period of time, that's likely only to be safe under close direct medical supervision, and then only in someone who is severely obese (say, 400+ pounds, possibly more).

Maybe we just don't understand, but that's what the worry is. To know where we're coming from, this would be a good thread to read, just as background about why we'd worry:

https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10761904/under-1200-for-weight-loss/p1

It's not for sure that something bad would happen, but there's definitely increased risk. Speaking for myself, I would want you (and everyone) to stay healthy while achieving weight management goals!

It's entirely possible to feel good, and not hungry, but still not be eating enough.

When I first joined MFP, I was eating 1200 plus all my (carefully estimated) exercise calories, which is what MFP calculated for a somewhat fast but still not dangerous weight loss rate for me (I'm only 5'5", sedentary, and was already pretty old, then 59).

It turned out I'm one of the unusual people that burns more calories than many calculators estimate, and I lost weight too fast, though it wasn't anything near a pound a day. I wasn't hungry, and felt great . . . until suddenly, I didn't. I got weak and fatigued. Although I corrected immediately as soon as I realized there was a problem, it took several weeks to recover normal strength and energy. With your busy life and the 3 little ones depending on you, you don't want that!

Truly, we're writing these things out of concern.

Please moderate your weight loss rate, to lose more slowly. There are lots of foods that are more calorie dense (so not as filling) but still very nutritious. For example, some fully plant-based choices include nuts, nut butters, seeds, avocados, more of healthy oils (olive, macadamia, whatever) in salad dressings or in cooking, and that sort of thing. If you eat dairy, full-fat dairy choices are also helpful. It's also fine to have the occasional little treat (chocolate or what-have-you) that's a little more calorie-dense, but not so filling, to get enough calories.

Please stay strong, stay healthy, and go get those weight goals in a moderate way that limits health risks! :flowerforyou:

kimny72 · January 2020

FoodBodyChanges wrote: »

A note on all the folks saying you need more calories: If you are eating WFPB with zero added processed oils and lots of veggies, it is possible to get adequate vitamins, minerals, and proteins around 1,000 calories, maybe 1,200. And you can seriously stay quite full on such a diet due to the high amount of fiber. The remaining calories you need come from fat stores. So if that's you, more power to you. But.... if you're doing some version of portion control with standard American fare, listen to the advice to eat more.

Fat burning doesn't happen as a magical poof of smoke at the end of the day to balance out your body's energy needs. It is like lighting a log on fire to burn, it's a process that takes time. Your body can only burn so much fat at one time, regardless if how virtuous your diet is. If your body needs 1500 calories more energy than you're eating and fat burning isn't happening fast enough, it will go looking for another source - muscle.

OP, in addition to being possibly harmful in the long run, very fast weight loss and under eating are a recipe for hitting the proverbial wall. You feel fine until you dont, then you slam into the wall of weakness, fatigue, health issues, hormone swings, and roller coaster appetite issues. And it can take months to recover. Plus, swinging from over eating to under eating is the classic beginning of the yo yo diet cycle. Please consider learning from other folks difficult experience rather than insisting on learning the hard way. Congratulations on being determined to change for the better, and best if luck.

PAV8888 · January 2020

Hello again to the OP.

The overwhelmingly most likely reason you're currently not feeling hunger, is that during an intense period of starvation your body uses certain defenses to help you survive.

Among them is slowing down cellular repair, especially anything that's not say related to you bleeding out, but also blunting feelings of hunger so that you can function.

At the same time hormones shift so that whenever food becomes available again you will get hit by an intense desire to eat more and more.

There is no need to worry too much about what extra food to eat.

As soon as you eat any extra food on a consistent basis, weather that is Snickers bars, protein bars, vegan protein bars, or broccoli with either tofu or chicken, there's a really good chance that the problem will be controlling rebound hunger.

In any case there are a lot of calorically dense food items. Some of which have been covered above.

Personally I would just start with forgetting about dieting, you heard me right forgetting about dieting, but concentrating on foods that you see yourself eating over the next five years.

Let's face it at some point of time hopefully you will get to your goal weight somewhere within the normal weight range.

And then that way you will be allowed a reasonable amount of calories in order to maintain that future lower weight.

an amount of calories that is actually lower than what your current body requires in order to maintain its current weight

This means that with some small adjustments can you can pretend today to be maintaining your future maintenance weight.... and still continue to lose towards it.

I am not saying that you need to adopt this for the long term or that you will never need to adapt.

But it is an idea.

Because I don't think you have had a chance given your rate of loss to even start contemplating how your future eating may look like.

A lot of us gain weight lose weight and keep repeating it for multiple cycles.

People who successfully maintain their weight loss for over 2 years have a much better track record of continuing to do so. And people who get to 5 years even more so.

Which is why when I started playing with all this for myself in 2014.... I decided that I had to start thinking in five-year or longer terms, and making choices that I *could see* myself sticking to for 5 years or longer. I mean it doesn't mean that I would or that I haven't changed half of them; but at least I wasn't just trying things that for sure would not stick around!

Anyway. Meandering here.

Just look at what you're eating and tell me if you see yourself doing this in these quantities and cooked this way in 2025.

And if the answer is not pick one of those items and change it to something you think might be sustainable... and keep going!

PAV8888 · January 2020

As a lot of people have mentioned your weight fluctuation is irrelevant other than to indicate to you that your body is starting to react a little bit to the intense weight loss stress you've been subjecting it to.

With such a low caloric allowance I really hope that almost half your calories have been protein.

If your protein has been low, the question immediately becomes how low, because a combination of intense deficit and not enough protein intake means that your body could start robbing protein from useful parts of your anatomy that you would rather keep intact!

AnnPT77 · January 2020

FoodBodyChanges wrote: »

It's totally normal for weight to fluctuate by up to several pounds daily. When I was younger, I would typically retain 6 pounds of water with my monthlies. Lycra and yoga pants hadn't been invented yet, so it really sucked, lol! Try weighing yourself every morning and evening to see trends. A note on all the folks saying you need more calories: If you are eating WFPB with zero added processed oils and lots of veggies, it is possible to get adequate vitamins, minerals, and proteins around 1,000 calories, maybe 1,200. And you can seriously stay quite full on such a diet due to the high amount of fiber. The remaining calories you need come from fat stores. So if that's you, more power to you. But.... if you're doing some version of portion control with standard American fare, listen to the advice to eat more.

I missed that, until Kimny quoted it. Um, what?

I've been vegetarian for 45+ years (ovo-lacto, not fully plant based, so mine is a little easier route, nutritionally; but close enough for me to understand what it would mean to get entirely plant-based nutrition).

First, you completely didn't mention adequate fats, without which many of your micronutrients will fail to be properly absorbed. Stored body fat is not going to fully compensate for too-low fat intake.

Second, IME, vegetarian protein comes with more built-in carbs, especially when eating whole foods, as compared to meat/fish protein. If someone wants to hit the best achievable nutrition on the lowest possible calories, eating whole foods not supplements, the optimum is going to be in an omnivorous diet. (Obviously, I'm not saying people need to be omnivorous to get adequate nutrition: I'm not an omnivore. I'm disputing your contention that WFPB achieves good nutrition on lower calories.)

Yes, fiber is filling (for many), and it can seem especially so for people coming from a fiber-poor previous way of eating. But that can be a misleading trap, if one feels sated before adequate nutrition intake. You need nutrient intake, essential fatty acids, essential amino acids, micronutrients, and calories. My protein and fat goals alone amount to 850 calories, and that's without a single one of the carbs that's inevitably going to ride along with them, espedially for a plant-based eater (and with all the micros, besides).

So, 1000 calories for good nutrition? No.

It's unclear what the exact limit on fat metabolism is, per pound of stored body fat per day, but it's not limitless, as Kimny said. At some point, energy or health will suffer.

PAV8888 · January 2020

Anyway a good amount of protein to aim for is around 0.8 to 1 gram per pound of body weight you're targeting within the normal weight range (call it BMI 25 if nothing else comes to mind)

Healthy fats for a woman would be around point 35 grams per pound of body weight as above

Fibre would be around 27g I believe for ladies and more usually doesn't hurt people!

Would definitely start using a weight trend application though I believe that some version of MFP now uses one too(?) Usual ones are happy scale for iPhone, libra for Android, and I personally use trendweight.com which I initially had connected to a free Fitbit account for data entry before owning a device.

The first post in every section has got the stickied threads.

In addition to chatter there is a lot of knowledge in some of these threads.

You've done great there's no question and this is something very important for you.

You've got to build on that and protect it.

If it doesn't feel like something you can do for the long-term, then it probably is not going to help you get there and stay there long-term.

kshama2001 · January 2020

AnnPT77 wrote: »

remyrunnels1 wrote: »

PAV8888 wrote: »

Deep breath everyone.

It really doesn't matter whether the Op runs the way we understand runs, or any other way.

Her loss record indicates that she is in an extremely steep and unsustainable therefore unhealthy (due to its size) deficit.

Appreciable results worth protecting so far.

Time to get smart and set up for the future. both to protect these results and to achieve even better ones.

Current course of action un-modified and unmoderated leads to either rebound weight gain or death from starvation.

So modification and achieving good results for the future is probably a better way to move forward!

Thanks for not simply attacking me. (If I was someone on the verge of an eating disorder as someone mentioned those replies may just make it worse) I only posted out of curiosity of my original question. My calories really aren’t that far off the recommendation but I do just feel full. Some days I do one meal and other days I break it down and even include snacks!

Do you have any advice on higher calorie meals that aren’t as filling?

On a side note about my runs, yes you can run in place while doing dishes but I also go outside and run around the block each day.

I was not going to reply again because people on here just seem mean and Uninviting but decided to check one more time and your reply seemed to come from a nice place and just wanted to say thank you for that.

If you're seeing a level of agitation or emotion in some of the posts, I think that's because some of us are sincerely worried about you. Try to think of me as your anxious MFP auntie, because at 64 I'm surely old enough to be!

If there were a pattern of pound-a-day loss over a period of time, that's likely only to be safe under close direct medical supervision, and then only in someone who is severely obese (say, 400+ pounds, possibly more).

Maybe we just don't understand, but that's what the worry is. To know where we're coming from, this would be a good thread to read, just as background about why we'd worry:

https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10761904/under-1200-for-weight-loss/p1

[snip]

Yes, my posts definitely came from a place of concern.

Thanks for posting https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10761904/under-1200-for-weight-loss/p1 - I was thinking of that thread as well.

Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »

I see new faces here daily, see new posts about eating low calories daily. If you've read my story, just ignore post. If very short and sedentary ignore my post.

I had congestive heart failure at 25 years old.

I was 5'8" around 135 lbs,
US size 9.

Ate around the 1000 calorie mark (usually coming in around 1100). Some days as low as 800 (just wasn't hungry), once every couple of weeks would binge a little and hit around 1200 calories.

I walked 3-9 miles and did an ab workout daily. After a binge, I would feel guilty and do aerobics. I also played tennis.

I wasn't Karen Carpenter thin.

I gained just over 100 lbs of water weight when my heart failed. Eating too low of calories to replenish the energy spent, caused an unbalance in electrolytes, one chamber of heart swelled, slowed, and I retained 100 lbs of water in a two months time.

Because gain was so fast, I ended up with deformities for life. I had a breast reduction, because they swelled from a perky D cup, to hanging in my lap H cup. Insurance wouldn't cover a tummy tuck or thigh lift, so stuck for life with deformed stomach and thighs (originally stomach hung so low, it would get calloused from hitting the ground when I sat).

It caused other problems as well, had to have gallbladder removed immediately, hormones went crazy, and ended up mal-absorbent.

Just before my heart failed, I felt healthy and strong. I was just trying to lose weight I had gained from a pregnancy that ended in a miscarriage. Almost at goal weight and size when heart failed.

Shocked when I was diagnosed as eating anorexic calorie levels. I couldn't believe I was obese from eating what I thought was healthy eating.

I struggled with depression going from thin and fit to obese, going from active and athletic to immobile, couldn't breathe just walking from bed to toilet. I had never considered myself anorexic, because I was curvy and not rail thin.

Eating too low of calories isn't worth the risks of these consequences. Eating too low of calories, literally destroyed my health and severely worsened my quality of life!

RGv2 · January 2020

remyrunnels1 wrote: »

PAV8888 wrote: »

Deep breath everyone.

It really doesn't matter whether the Op runs the way we understand runs, or any other way.

Her loss record indicates that she is in an extremely steep and unsustainable therefore unhealthy (due to its size) deficit.

Appreciable results worth protecting so far.

Time to get smart and set up for the future. both to protect these results and to achieve even better ones.

Current course of action un-modified and unmoderated leads to either rebound weight gain or death from starvation.

So modification and achieving good results for the future is probably a better way to move forward!

Thanks for not simply attacking me.

Nobody attacked you.

My calories really aren’t that far off the recommendation

Uh, ya they are....expecially if you're grossing only 800-1000 calories. If that's true, than you're probably netting close to zero, which I would consider pretty far off the recommendation.

Why did I gain 2 pounds overnight?

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