To Eat or Not To Eat
jc1695
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I started a new job that requires a lot of travel to rural areas. It's difficult and sometimes impossible to find restaurants that serve what we know today as healthy dinners. When given the options of eating fatty foods or no food at all, is better to eat or not to eat? I've been carrying extra protien bars with me but I'm eating 4 or more in a day when I travel. Any suggestions?
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I think it would be hard in the long run to travel without eating properly. I would suggest looking at the online menus for restaurants like McDonald’s that you can expect to find where you go and find some menu items that fit within your calories and macros. Chicken nuggets, a side salad?7
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Can you get one of those igloo coolers from walmart- and put an ice pack in it- you can then make tuna or chicken salad or anything like various types of salad- Also if you get a good thermos- you could bring some type of chili or soup-- lastly- you could find some types of convenience foods(maybe not the best option) but still might be worth it--9
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Lots of them have salads, sometimes only side salads. Have one with some jerky.
Quick-mart type places will have crackers and cheese, and if you’re lucky, some kind of fruit.
Take what you can with you. Fruit, crackers, nuts, individual bowls of cereal with quikmart milk.
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Define "healthy"?
I don't have a lot of trouble finding decent choices in most parts of the US, including some very rural, when traveling, even as an ovo-lacto vegetarian. These might not be exactly what I'd eat at home, but they're adequately nutritious and tolerably edible (at worst ).
There are usually big chains, and I can find fairly reasonable choices at Taco Bell (you can order things not on the menu - see their online website/calculator), Subway (I like the chopped salad - you can have any sub as a salad instead), and even McDonalds (egg muffin + salad). For me, a large skim latte (just skim milk and coffee) is another protein source (adequate protein within calorie goal is the hardest part for me, when traveling).
Local restaurants and some chains (Denny's, Bob Evans) have breakfast-all-day choices (oatmeal, eggs) and sometimes they'll make up a plate of vegetable sides. (I do end up eating many more eggs while traveling than I do at home. ). If you eat meat, there's often a "diet plate" with fruits/veggies and a lean meat or fish; or you can ask for plain grilled chicken or fish. It doesn't always work, but asking politely if they can serve something in a non-standard way will work more often than many people might imagine, if you work with ingredients you see on the menu. (Sometimes it matters what they pre-prep vs. make in real time.) Sometimes I order sandwiches without the bun/bread.
Grocery store prepared and deli foods are another possible source for salads, lean meats, and that sort of thing. Lots of convenience stores these days have hard boiled eggs, fruit, snack veggies (like carrot & celery sticks), Greek yogurt, hummus. A small cooler in your vehicle can help extend the keeping time (use the plastic ice-replacement blocks if you have access to a freezer often enough for refreezing, otherwise a tight-closing container makes a reasonable ice pack you can refill from ice machines).
There are also lots of dehydrated foods available these days: Bulgar wheat pilafs rehydrate with just hot water, there are dehydrated soups with decent ingredients, powdered hummus or frijoles are available and just need rehydrating to eat with veggies or good crackers. Health food stores and big groceries have more substantial, less-sweetened oatmeal packets that can be mixed with hot water, maybe a cut-up apple or banana, possibly some nuts or good trail mix, and some yogurt or milk. Nuts, nut butters, and dried fruits travel well without refrigeration. Backpacking foods can be reasonably nutritious, but they're more expensive. Frozen foods might work if you have access to a microwave.
Good luck!
ETA: It's usually better to eat, within reason, if travel is frequent, vs. seriously lowball your energy needs. However, the extremes of "fatty food" and "undereat" are far from your only options.18 -
Thank you everyone for the input. I failed to mention that I have a lot of diet restrictions due to stomach problems. High fiber foods and legumes are not allowed. Neither is lactose. I go to lumber mills often in the middle of the woods. McDonalds and a gas station are often the only thing within 30+ miles. I stick to a 45% carb, 35% protein, 20% fat diet. I can get a plain grilled chicken sandwich from McDonalds but I don't want to have that too often with all that sodium. I was mainly curious if it was better to eat or wait until I get to a hotel.2
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Is an ice chest stocked with healthy foods an option for you? I have restrictions too (diabetes) and I've quickly learned that I'd better bring my own when traveling.3
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You should probably pack extra snacks to eat. If you can't find anything suitable at a restaurant, I guess you could wait. But lots of restaurants are accommodating to different needs. Just tell them you have a dietary restriction or allergies and ask if you can have ______.5
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One go-to option I use while travelling is soup! If there is a broth-based soup, I get a large bowl of soup and sometimes a side salad. It's a lot of food and usually the calorie profile is manageable.
Another option is to order something like a steak and ask for double veggies and no carb. It's a calorie saver (I'm not low carbz but do this sometimes when eating out to save calories).
A bowl or cup of chili is also a good option. Add abaked potsto, and that's a decent meal (I order that at Wendy's). There are also ways to do fast food within reasonable calories, too, if you know what to order ahead of time.
I find a banana and a Greek yogurt is a good, lower calorie breakfast option available at most hotels.3 -
I don't know if your sodium restriction is hard medical or preference
Depending on your calories you may or may not need protein to be as high as 35%
Many gas stations have single serve soups.
Have you checked out the macros on hamburger meat?
Personally at McDonald's, I would eat a McDouble with an extra reg meat patty (0.3 oz meat total with one slice cheese on a regular hamburger bun), plus three-times red onions and three-time slivered onions).
Or I would get a bacon and egg McMuffin with 3x + 3x onions as above, no butter, plus depending on the situation / time, maybe an extra poached egg, or single regular meat patty to add to it.
Alternatives if I wanted to stay with a single sandwich and could tolerate greasy that day (however I do find it curiously satiating) I might get a sausage and egg McMuffin as per above for no butter and 3+3x onions and extra egg.
When heading out for a dog walk in the summer, especially if I'm starting out too late and will have to delay dinner because of it, I find that a vanilla cone ice cream plus extra large, light ice, 50-50 mix of diet Coke and Coke Zero, is good for a 2 or 3 hour delay before I get dinner.
Black regular or decaf coffee extra large, and in the summer their dollar drink ice coffee, no liquid sugar, light ice, sub milk
Pretty much all of the above are between 300 and 600 calories, and the macros are not extremely terrible other than saturated fat. (Diet Coke and coffee even less!)2 -
pack a lunch/dinner?4
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I work 12+ hour shifts as a police officer. I keep a small cooler with my prepped meals & snacks in it. Not exactly rocket science.
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but seriously, you're overthinking it. If you can take a protein bar, you can take a sandwich (or whatever - my dinner tonight was pork loin that had been marinated in a ginger/sesame sauce with zucchini, mushrooms, carrots, & onions. I just pulled into a parking lot, threw my vehicle in park, and ate).9 -
Thanks again for the advice. Packing a lunch would be an option if this was a one day trip. It is normally 3 - 5 days and without refrigeration, most packed lunches won't tolerate outdoor southern ambient temperature that long. My primary question was is it better to eat fatty foods so that you have some nutrients or skip the meal entirely to avoid the fat. There is some good advice in here and I'll use to figure out a solution.2
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It's better to eat something than nothing at all. You don't want to make long drives on empty stomach. They have coolers/warmers that plug into car lighters for travel. A little pricey, but it's an option.9
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Thanks again for the advice. Packing a lunch would be an option if this was a one day trip. It is normally 3 - 5 days and without refrigeration, most packed lunches won't tolerate outdoor southern ambient temperature that long. My primary question was is it better to eat fatty foods so that you have some nutrients or skip the meal entirely to avoid the fat. There is some good advice in here and I'll use to figure out a solution.
Definitely, eat!
And: you mention avoiding eating fatty foods, and avoiding eating fat.
Unless you have a specific medical reason for doing so (and if so: please listen to your DOCTOR and not some rando on the internet), there's no real reason to avoid fat, per se. Personally, I find that having a greater proportion of fat in my meals makes me feel full for longer, so I actively make sure I get enough of it!
Having more or less fat in your meals isn't what's going to affect weight loss. Except in one way: fat is, yes, very energy dense. But a smaller portion of a food with a lot of fat in, as long as you pay attention to the calorie counts, is perfectly fine. (Again, unless you have a specific medical reason why not).
I'm not sure about in the US, but in my part of the world a lot of restaurants etc, especially chains, have the calorie content for their meals available either on their menus or websites. If it's similar where you are then doing a bit of research on what meals can fit your goals might be a really handy way to prepare yourself for those trips?
And if that's not possible.. eh, life happens. It's better to be eating within your own health goals when you're at home, than never!7 -
My little meal prep bag goes with me to work every day
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Think about what you would pack if you were camping (I don't camp, so take this with a grain of salt).
Can you store canned meats? Tuna/chicken maybe? Can you eat nuts/seeds?
Grocery stores are an option too. Most grocery stores have a deli section with pre made sandwiches. I know that when I've traveled; I've opted for grocery store option b/c it's not usually a bit cheaper than a fast food chain.6 -
BeGrandLike wrote: »Thanks again for the advice. Packing a lunch would be an option if this was a one day trip. It is normally 3 - 5 days and without refrigeration, most packed lunches won't tolerate outdoor southern ambient temperature that long. My primary question was is it better to eat fatty foods so that you have some nutrients or skip the meal entirely to avoid the fat. There is some good advice in here and I'll use to figure out a solution.
Definitely, eat!
And: you mention avoiding eating fatty foods, and avoiding eating fat.
Unless you have a specific medical reason for doing so (and if so: please listen to your DOCTOR and not some rando on the internet), there's no real reason to avoid fat, per se. Personally, I find that having a greater proportion of fat in my meals makes me feel full for longer, so I actively make sure I get enough of it!
OP does mention that he has a lot of diet restrictions due to stomach problems.3 -
I travel remotely for work by vehicle. I have a plug in cooler with an adapter to use in rooms. I pack all kinds of healthy snacks such as yogurt, fruit, nuts, veggies, almonds, eggs, trail mix that kind of thing.. it keeps me away from the chips and chocolate bars you find in gas stations.5
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I used to do work with similar constraints. My suggestions - better to eat than not, eat smaller portions at the restaurants, bring snacks with you that don't require refrigeration, bring meal items with you to prepare in hotel room, do some grocery shopping in the area (if that's an option).4
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Thanks again for the advice. Packing a lunch would be an option if this was a one day trip. It is normally 3 - 5 days and without refrigeration, most packed lunches won't tolerate outdoor southern ambient temperature that long. My primary question was is it better to eat fatty foods so that you have some nutrients or skip the meal entirely to avoid the fat. There is some good advice in here and I'll use to figure out a solution.
Some people can go long periods of time without eating. In fact some people do One Meal A Day (OMAD). I'm not one one them - I get lightheaded and feel awful if a meal is delayed by much more than an hour.
I would be able to make something work from McDonald's.
Another thing to consider is MREs. I believe they now have options that aren't huge amounts of calories.
https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=MRE&ref=nb_sb_noss_22 -
You could look for things like low sodium dehydrated soups that you just add hot water to. Also, low sodium canned soups, pack a bowl and heat in the hotel room microwave if there is one. Loaf of bread with something shelf stable to put on it.
Sometimes when I'm traveling, I'll prepack homemade oat mixes that are very hearty (oats, dried fruit, wheat germ, nuts, ground flaxseed, hemp seeds, coconut, cocoa powder) and add a banana and just hot water to it (when I eat rolled oats I don't cook them). I know you have restrictions and am not suggesting you try the oats, but just throwing it out there in case it helps you think of something similar.0 -
hotel cooking for the win - im going to assume while you are out, there are grocery stores you can stop at? there are steamable ziploc bags you can buy that work for cooking protein in the microwave; steamed bags of veggies (1 min and done)
there are plug in devices you can buy for your car - that plug into cigarette lighter - that let you heat up foods2 -
Thanks again for the advice. Packing a lunch would be an option if this was a one day trip. It is normally 3 - 5 days and without refrigeration, most packed lunches won't tolerate outdoor southern ambient temperature that long. My primary question was is it better to eat fatty foods so that you have some nutrients or skip the meal entirely to avoid the fat. There is some good advice in here and I'll use to figure out a solution.
Your first priority in eating is energy not nutrients. If you are not accustomed to skipping meals then you could be battling fatigue and/or make yourself so hangry you end up doing a binge-like overfeed.
I should also mention that for weight management and loss you need to control your calories. It doesn't matter if a bunch of them come from fat unless you don't find that to curb your hunger enough.3 -
deannalfisher wrote: »hotel cooking for the win - im going to assume while you are out, there are grocery stores you can stop at? there are steamable ziploc bags you can buy that work for cooking protein in the microwave; steamed bags of veggies (1 min and done)
there are plug in devices you can buy for your car - that plug into cigarette lighter - that let you heat up foods
Yes, the Feb 17 episode of the Half Size Me podcast was with a female truck driver who has a little "oven" that plugs in. She had tons of other strategies as well.
I'd encourage anyone who spends a lot of time on the road and is looking for tips to listen to that episode.1 -
For meals that don't require cooling (just some hot water), I keep high-protein soup, high-protein mac and cheese, and tuna pouches and tortillas in my office because college students are unpredictable and I often have to grab dinner at work. I like quest protein chips, protein hot chocolate, and protein pudding as well.
They can be higher in sodium than other foods, but I find they generally balance out over the course of my day.0 -
What about instant oatmeal with fresh fruit, like apples? Both can be packed without refrigeration. You just need hot water for the oatmeal -- which you can get from a McDonald's or from your hotel.Thank you everyone for the input. I failed to mention that I have a lot of diet restrictions due to stomach problems. High fiber foods and legumes are not allowed. Neither is lactose. I go to lumber mills often in the middle of the woods. McDonalds and a gas station are often the only thing within 30+ miles. I stick to a 45% carb, 35% protein, 20% fat diet. I can get a plain grilled chicken sandwich from McDonalds but I don't want to have that too often with all that sodium. I was mainly curious if it was better to eat or wait until I get to a hotel.
Can you eat oatmeal? A box of instant oatmeal requires no refrigeration. You just need hot water, which you could definitely get at a McDonald's. I keep it in my car for emergency food and sometimes have it with an apple. I don't know if fruit would be too high fiber for you.1 -
Is there a reason your fat is so low? 20% is really the very lowest within a minimally “healthy” range (not even ideal or recommended-just the absolute bare minimum). There are medical reasons someone might need to keep dietary fat that low, so if that’s the case, then ignore the rest of this.
I would nearly always opt for eating something that’s available over eating 800-1000 calories of protein bars (Assuming the 4 you’re eating are 200-250 calories each) or waiting indefinitely (and ending up grumpy and/or over hungry and making poor choices). Even a rural dive will probably have an option for steak, potato & veggies. It’s possible to get a decent meal at McDonalds (or the like) That’s got far fewer calories than 4 protein bars and way more in the way of nutrients. It’s relatively easy to get some non-perishable agreeable foods at a grocery store (instant oatmeal & stable fruits like bananas or oranges are things I often pick up).
If your fat intake needs to be that low for some reason, your options may require more effort and/or be a little more limited. But if not, I would make the best choices of what’s available rather than subsisting on protein bars.1
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