Anyone doing High Protein low carb low fat diets for weight loss here?
janieski
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As title says, anyone, would you be willing to share your diet plans or menus etc with me and add me as a MFP fried with your daily diary open for me to view? As been told to do this diet but need inspirations and ideas what to eat and cook to make meals? Thanks so much x
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Who told you to do that diet? 🤔8
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Hi! From what I understand, eating lots of protein without getting enough fat can lead to kidney problems. I would strongly suggest that you consult with a nutritionist or your doctor before doing such a diet.
I am eating at a deficit and am aiming for a high protein diet, so you may be able to get some information from my diary, which is open.6 -
People have different ideas about what high protein, low fat, and low carb mean, so it would likely be helpful for you to give your understanding. Some might think of even something like 30-30-40 that way (with 40% for the carbs), whereas some might think that means minimal fat and carbs and mostly protein, which would not be healthy for most (absent a low cal, dr-supervised diet for a specific purpose).2
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »Who told you to do that diet? 🤔
My dietician did....0 -
Hi! From what I understand, eating lots of protein without getting enough fat can lead to kidney problems. I would strongly suggest that you consult with a nutritionist or your doctor before doing such a diet.
I am eating at a deficit and am aiming for a high protein diet, so you may be able to get some information from my diary, which is open.
It was my dietician who told me to do this, she said its what I need to be doing to lose the weight and for my age. Thanks1 -
Like I said, you would likely get more helpful responses if you'd say what high protein, low fat, and low carb mean to you or your dietitian. For example, some think of 100 g of protein as high, whereas most on MFP likely would not, and some think of under 30% fat or under 150 g of carbs as low, whereas others would not.1
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People have different ideas about what high protein, low fat, and low carb mean, so it would likely be helpful for you to give your understanding. Some might think of even something like 30-30-40 that way (with 40% for the carbs), whereas some might think that means minimal fat and carbs and mostly protein, which would not be healthy for most (absent a low cal, dr-supervised diet for a specific purpose).
I'd imagine it would be 30 carbs, and rest would be protien 40 or 50 and what's left fats.... my dietician just said to me to aim for lower carbs low fats and more protien and the rest made up of green veggys etc.... She never said percentage wise, I was looking for ideas for meals.0 -
Hi! From what I understand, eating lots of protein without getting enough fat can lead to kidney problems. I would strongly suggest that you consult with a nutritionist or your doctor before doing such a diet.
I am eating at a deficit and am aiming for a high protein diet, so you may be able to get some information from my diary, which is open.
Just looked and says your accounts streams private.0 -
People have different ideas about what high protein, low fat, and low carb mean, so it would likely be helpful for you to give your understanding. Some might think of even something like 30-30-40 that way (with 40% for the carbs), whereas some might think that means minimal fat and carbs and mostly protein, which would not be healthy for most (absent a low cal, dr-supervised diet for a specific purpose).
I'd imagine it would be 30 carbs, and rest would be protien 40 or 50 and what's left fats.... my dietician just said to me to aim for lower carbs low fats and more protien and the rest made up of green veggys etc.... She never said percentage wise, I was looking for ideas for meals.
It would be helpful if your dietitian gave either a gram or percentage estimate. Often when adjusting a diet people assume that carbs and fats were too high leading to cals being too high, so will say to cut back on carbs and fat (often meaning starchy carbs and carbs (usually with fat) in junk food and not higher fiber carbs or veg and fruit), and increase lean protein, yet don't actually mean HIGH protein and LOW fat and carb. That's extremely hard to do on a normal cal diet (even at a moderate deficit) and can lead to things like rabbit starvation, which is why it is getting negative feedback.
I figured you meant moderately high protein, moderately low fat and carbs.
Where'd you get the 40-50% protein guess, and did you get a cal estimate or a list of foods and servings or what?
Meal ideas are going to depend on the answers to these, I'm not trying to be difficult.
What's the goal of the diet? Weight loss or just improving nutrition quality or a health condition? If the latter I'd expect some kind of detailed guidelines.2 -
People have different ideas about what high protein, low fat, and low carb mean, so it would likely be helpful for you to give your understanding. Some might think of even something like 30-30-40 that way (with 40% for the carbs), whereas some might think that means minimal fat and carbs and mostly protein, which would not be healthy for most (absent a low cal, dr-supervised diet for a specific purpose).
I'd imagine it would be 30 carbs, and rest would be protien 40 or 50 and what's left fats.... my dietician just said to me to aim for lower carbs low fats and more protien and the rest made up of green veggys etc.... She never said percentage wise, I was looking for ideas for meals.
40 to 50% protein is generally considered unnecessarily high. Please get a percentage from your dietitian. She should have also given you meal suggestions. I'd want my money back if I didn't get this.
We can help you with meal plans, but 30% protein (which is 10% higher than the MFP default of 20%) would look very different from 50%, so it is important to clarify that first.
Please also get your carb % target.2 -
I share some of others' questions.
As background, I'd add this: There are only 3 real macronutrients: Protein, fats, and carbohydrates. (There's a 4th pseudo-macro, alcohol, which has calories but isn't any of those other things.)
A maximally high protein, low-carb, low-fat diet would essentially be trying to get large amounts of one's calories from protein. That can be done, but mainstream nutritional authorities don't typically consider it the healthiest way of eating, at least for someone who's not working within strictures of some pre-existing medical condition.
That's why we're wondering what your more specific macronutrient goals are, and why you're pursuing this particular approach. It's not doubting or criticizing you, it's wondering exactly what you're doing and why, so we can make more intelligent suggestions.7 -
I share some of others' questions.
As background, I'd add this: There are only 3 real macronutrients: Protein, fats, and carbohydrates. (There's a 4th pseudo-macro, alcohol, which has calories but isn't any of those other things.)
A maximally high protein, low-carb, low-fat diet would essentially be trying to get large amounts of one's calories from protein. That can be done, but mainstream nutritional authorities don't typically consider it the healthiest way of eating, at least for someone who's not working within strictures of some pre-existing medical condition.
That's why we're wondering what your more specific macronutrient goals are, and why you're pursuing this particular approach. It's not doubting or criticizing you, it's wondering exactly what you're doing and why, so we can make more intelligent suggestions.
Right, Dr. Now's patients on "My 600 Pound Life" are on a 1200 calorie high protein, low fat and carb diet, but they need to lose a lot of weight immediately in order to save their lives. Without similar motivation, compliance would be difficult and unnecessary.
Absent a medical condition(s), anyone of any age can lose weight following whatever way of eating works best for them.
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If it was an RD and not a nutritionist are you sure it wasn't to lower your carbs and fat and increase protein? That would be nudging one up while nudging the other two downward which is likely advice. That would not mean low it would just mean lower. So if you were eating 250 grams of carbs a day 150-200 would be lower and give you more room for protein calories.7
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Echoing the others in saying that your dietician really should have given you more guidance on this. Particularly given that fat is essential, and a vague recommendation could easily see people cutting it way too low.
Did you go over with her what you currently eat?3 -
If it was an RD and not a nutritionist are you sure it wasn't to lower your carbs and fat and increase protein? That would be nudging one up while nudging the other two downward which is likely advice. That would not mean low it would just mean lower. So if you were eating 250 grams of carbs a day 150-200 would be lower and give you more room for protein calories.
Right, the MFP default macros are 50% from carbohydrates, 20% from protein and 30% from fat.. I nudged protein up and carbs down.0 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Who told you to do that diet? 🤔
My dietician did....
Then I would ask them to clarify what they mean. You're paying them for that. An RD should have given you more information.5 -
kshama2001 wrote: »If it was an RD and not a nutritionist are you sure it wasn't to lower your carbs and fat and increase protein? That would be nudging one up while nudging the other two downward which is likely advice. That would not mean low it would just mean lower. So if you were eating 250 grams of carbs a day 150-200 would be lower and give you more room for protein calories.
Right, the MFP default macros are 50% from carbohydrates, 20% from protein and 30% from fat.. I nudged protein up and carbs down.
Yep, same, though mine was a bit more than a nudge - 30C/35F/35P. My protein is admittedly higher than what's generally thought necessary, but there's a method in my madness specific to me.0 -
People have different ideas about what high protein, low fat, and low carb mean, so it would likely be helpful for you to give your understanding. Some might think of even something like 30-30-40 that way (with 40% for the carbs), whereas some might think that means minimal fat and carbs and mostly protein, which would not be healthy for most (absent a low cal, dr-supervised diet for a specific purpose).
I'd imagine it would be 30 carbs, and rest would be protien 40 or 50 and what's left fats.... my dietician just said to me to aim for lower carbs low fats and more protien and the rest made up of green veggys etc.... She never said percentage wise, I was looking for ideas for meals.
40%-50% protein is really high! Do you have some kind of medical condition that might be affecting the numbers they gave you? The typical recommendation is to get 0.6-0.8g of protein per lb of your goal body weight. So for example, if your goal were 150 lbs, you would aim for 90g-120g of protein.
To do that, you are going to need to prioritize eating lean meat and fish, and low fat dairy, then fit in as many eggs, beans & lentils, and protein powder as you can fit within your calories.
I struggle to get 90g of protein on 1600-1700 calories. I just plan the protein for each meal first, log it to make sure I'm getting enough, then fill in the rest of my food around it. But I would really double check with your dietician and confirm those numbers and reasoning. You don't want to make losing weight harder than it needs to be, and calories determine weight loss. More protein can be more satiating for some people and make it easier to stick to your calories, but 40-50% is higher than most people would want or need.3 -
Hi! From what I understand, eating lots of protein without getting enough fat can lead to kidney problems. I would strongly suggest that you consult with a nutritionist or your doctor before doing such a diet.
I am eating at a deficit and am aiming for a high protein diet, so you may be able to get some information from my diary, which is open.
The idea of kidney problems from high protein come from people with existing kidney damage having issues. So far there has never been a study showing kidney issues in someone with normal kidney function going on a high protein diet. Jose Antonio even did a study with ~4.4g protein / kg bodyweight in advanced lifters and none of his subjects showed any kidney issues, though admittedly some did drop out because they found the levels of protein uncomfortable to eat.1 -
When I was very overweight and went in medical weight loss this was the "plan" and it works very well. As my weight got "normal" it has to change as it is I think unsustainable in the long run. But that transition period taught my make the better choices and get more to even percent wise plan try to keep the carbs under 150g a day really under 100g but that is actually very hard at least for me. All in moderation if weight loss is the goal its all about calories for lifestyle change have to get better macro choices.0
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Thanks for all the replies etc, so many are going off a tanjuem a bit, but hey, lol, I only wanted Ideas for low carb more protein low fat meals that was it.... But thanks.0
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Thanks for all the replies etc, so many are going off a tanjuem a bit, but hey, lol, I only wanted Ideas for low carb more protein low fat meals that was it.... But thanks.
Again, it would be helpful if you defined what your dietitian meant by "low carb more protein low fat" in terms of percentages (or ranges of %).
And since you paid them, they should have provided this and meal plans in the first place, so do follow up with them.6 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Thanks for all the replies etc, so many are going off a tanjuem a bit, but hey, lol, I only wanted Ideas for low carb more protein low fat meals that was it.... But thanks.
Again, it would be helpful if you defined what your dietitian meant by "low carb more protein low fat" in terms of percentages (or ranges of %).
And since you paid them, they should have provided this and meal plans in the first place, so do follow up with them.
This. Or grams for the macros vs. percentages.
Otherwise, the best I can do is pretty obvious.
Lean meat + non starchy veg.
Have two meals of that plus maybe some low fat greek yogurt or cottage cheese with berries.
I think a lot of people get told to increase protein and decrease less nutrient dense sources of fat and carbs, but that doesn't exactly equate to what I'd consider low fat, low carb, and high protein (which is really hard to do without being super low cal, and that would generally be under a doctor's supervision). Usually it makes sense to be moderate protein, fat, and carbs, with a focus on more nutrient-dense and healthier sources of all three or else to be moderate protein (for me that means anywhere between 0.6-1 g per lb of a healthy goal weight) plus either lower fat or lower (or low) carb, again with a focus on more nutrient dense sources of the macros.5 -
Thanks for all the replies etc, so many are going off a tanjuem a bit, but hey, lol, I only wanted Ideas for low carb more protein low fat meals that was it.... But thanks.
Yes, but we can't give you that answer without knowing how much of each you are meant to be aiming for. If your dietician said 'increase protein, and lower fat and carbs', we also can't advise on that without knowing how much of each you currently eat (or were eating). Your protein may have been extremely low, meaning you needed to lower carbs and fats in order to increase protein within your calorie goal, which doesn't necessarily mean 'low carb and low fat'.
Find out exactly what your dietician meant, preferably with gram amounts of what she wants you to aim for, then we can help you.4 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Thanks for all the replies etc, so many are going off a tanjuem a bit, but hey, lol, I only wanted Ideas for low carb more protein low fat meals that was it.... But thanks.
Yes, but we can't give you that answer without knowing how much of each you are meant to be aiming for. If your dietician said 'increase protein, and lower fat and carbs', we also can't advise on that without knowing how much of each you currently eat (or were eating). Your protein may have been extremely low, meaning you needed to lower carbs and fats in order to increase protein within your calorie goal, which doesn't necessarily mean 'low carb and low fat'.
Find out exactly what your dietician meant, preferably with gram amounts of what she wants you to aim for, then we can help you.
Right, more protein is not the same thing as high protein, especially if one was low protein to start with. In that case, one could meet the goal of more protein by eating the MFP default of 20% protein - meals for that would look very different from those aiming for 50% protein.1
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