Best Protein Powder/ loosing weight gaining muscle
fitgirl1205
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Hey everyone, I was wondering what is your favorite protein powder that taste good and mixes with water or milk well? I want to loose weight roughly 50 pounds and also tone/start to build muscle. Not sure if the type of protein powder you use has much to do with that or not. I'm a newbie so advice is much appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
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Losing weight occurs in a calorie deficit, gaining/toning muscle occurs when those muscles are placed under load. Neither of which necessarily requires drinking a protein powder.
If, for whatever reason, your not getting enough protein from your food then it can be useful to use a protein supplement to reach your target daily intake but if you're already getting enough protein then adding a powder likely won't have much of a benefit at all.
Protein powder is just a supplement, it's not some kind of magic weight loss / muscle building elixir. If you're not protein deficient you might want to think about saving your money.
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Protein powder is just protein. It doesn't have any special weight loss powers. You can use it if it is a convenient way to get your protein or if you struggle to hit your protein targets from food. But it is entirely unnecessary otherwise.14
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I use protein powder and with proper eating it has helped me in many ways. I use it regularly, pretty much every night before bed and sometimes during the day.I work and workout late so when I get home I want something satisfying and easy. Like other comments, no single diet, pill, food will make you loose weight unless it is conjunction with lifestyle modification. I work in the supplemetnt and wellness industry and tell all my cudtomers that food is first and food can be medicine.
Favorite proteins- I use plant based, vegan protein. Sunwarrior is my main protein powder choice. Two other good ones are Garden of Life RAW and Orgain. (Orgain does have higher carbs but over all is very good. If you like peanut butter the Select Plant based Peanut Butter is very good.
NOW Plant protein complex. MRM VEggie pro, Plant Fusion, KOS (Amazon) and Biochem Veggie protein are also worth trying
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If you are trying to lose about 50 lbs you really shouldn't be getting bogged down worrying about protein supplements (or any supplement for that matter) in the infancy stages of your weight loss journey. You should be able to get sufficient protein in the whole foods you eat and continue to lose weight by consistently eating at a caloric deficit. Supplements are more for people who have hit a plateau or recognize there is a specific deficiency that they cannot address with their regular nutrition/diet.3
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In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.2
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jjironaddict wrote: »In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.
What possible harm is there for someone to use protein powder as a supplement in an overall healthy diet? And most protein is derived from food sources, whey from milk, peas, soy, eggs? Why would you not consider it food?
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jjironaddict wrote: »In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.
Yes, let's take advice from a guy who was on steroids and died from a drug overdose. Much better than protein powders. /sarcasm.
OP, if you find yourself falling short on protein, than supplementation is a good way to help with that. I prefer PEScience or Quest. I have found no better brands.
But gaining muscle is not only about good nutrition, but it's also about following a solid lifting program. Depending what your goals are, you can look at the below list to figure out where is a good place to start. StrongCurves is by far the most popular, but Thinner, Leaner, Stronger and Stephanie Buttermore's programs are also solid.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p112 -
There are different sorts of protein; some absorb faster than others.
Whey protein digests quickly while casein digests slowly. In experiments, researchers have tried to determine whether fast digestion or slow digestion is better for protein synthesis and muscle building. The conclusion? Fast digestion is best for boosting muscle protein synthesis.
Dairy-based proteins are the major source of protein in sports supplements — about three-quarters. Soy proteins made up most of the rest. In recent years, plant based protein powders have become more common. However, dairy proteins like whey and casein still make up most of the protein supplements on the market.
A whey-based smoothie, directly after your workout, can do a lot of good for your muscles. It will absorb much faster than eating an egg.
Last but not least: there is whey 80 and 100. Take the 100. It is more purified and generally of a better quality.2 -
Monomatapa wrote: »There are different sorts of protein; some absorb faster than others.
Whey protein digests quickly while casein digests slowly. In experiments, researchers have tried to determine whether fast digestion or slow digestion is better for protein synthesis and muscle building. The conclusion? Fast digestion is best for boosting muscle protein synthesis.
Dairy-based proteins are the major source of protein in sports supplements — about three-quarters. Soy proteins made up most of the rest. In recent years, plant based protein powders have become more common. However, dairy proteins like whey and casein still make up most of the protein supplements on the market.
A whey-based smoothie, directly after your workout, can do a lot of good for your muscles. It will absorb much faster than eating an egg.
Last but not least: there is whey 80 and 100. Take the 100. It is more purified and generally of a better quality.
I'd love to read more about this if you can you link to the studies you're citing? Most of what you've said here sounds like little more than baseless bro-science so if you have legit sources to back this up I'd be very interested.4 -
I'd love to read more about this if you can you link to the studies you're citing? Most of what you've said here sounds like little more than baseless bro-science so if you have legit sources to back this up I'd be very interested.[/quote]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/
Just one example, but just google the effects of Whey and/or other fast proteins and you'll find a lot more.
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There is a time frame as well. I believe you better munch your proteins (wherever they come from) within 30 minutes after training, for best effect. You can google that as well.1
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Monomatapa wrote: »There is a time frame as well. I believe you better munch your proteins (wherever they come from) within 30 minutes after training, for best effect. You can google that as well.
Nope. Not true. Anytime within about a 4 hour window before or after is good. That 30 minute anabolic window is definitely old broscience.7 -
Monomatapa wrote: »There are different sorts of protein; some absorb faster than others.
Whey protein digests quickly while casein digests slowly. In experiments, researchers have tried to determine whether fast digestion or slow digestion is better for protein synthesis and muscle building. The conclusion? Fast digestion is best for boosting muscle protein synthesis.
Dairy-based proteins are the major source of protein in sports supplements — about three-quarters. Soy proteins made up most of the rest. In recent years, plant based protein powders have become more common. However, dairy proteins like whey and casein still make up most of the protein supplements on the market.
A whey-based smoothie, directly after your workout, can do a lot of good for your muscles. It will absorb much faster than eating an egg.
Last but not least: there is whey 80 and 100. Take the 100. It is more purified and generally of a better quality.
I'd love to read more about this if you can you link to the studies you're citing? Most of what you've said here sounds like little more than baseless bro-science so if you have legit sources to back this up I'd be very interested.
Because the absorption is faster, that isn't necessarily better. There is a maximal rate of MPS. Slower can actually be better. And the study you posted shows no difference in muscle growth if the protein was ingested right before or after workout or earlier at breakfast.
ETA: Sorry Danp. I meant to quote the poster you quoted and not you.6 -
Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard whey is tasty, mixes well, has a solid protein to calorie ratio and is relatively inexpensive.
That's what I buy.6 -
Monomatapa wrote: »There is a time frame as well. I believe you better munch your proteins (wherever they come from) within 30 minutes after training, for best effect. You can google that as well.
That's an old bro's tale. The "window" is actually several hours.3 -
This is my favorite. I mix it with water and put it in the freezer for 30-45 mins and have it for breakfast. I also add an orange flavored fiber powder supplement from Target.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077WGV18G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Edit to add: I do 2 scoops1 -
There is not really a best. It really depends on the composition of the amino acids, especially leucine and the flavor. 2 of my favorites are MyProtein, which is also inexpensive, and RC Vital addition, both in chocolate.
I don't make that many shakes. I mix it with yogurt and some fruit and nuts. I eat on a 16/8 schedule more or less and this is what I have for my first meal of the day several times per week. Reasonable calorie wise, good amount of protein and tastes great.2 -
fitgirl1205 wrote: »Hey everyone, I was wondering what is your favorite protein powder that taste good and mixes with water or milk well? I want to loose weight roughly 50 pounds and also tone/start to build muscle. Not sure if the type of protein powder you use has much to do with that or not. I'm a newbie so advice is much appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
I use Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Isolate Chocolate.
Keep in mind that a whey powder or other protein powder is just a supplement. For the most part I prefer to eat my protein rather than supplement, but I eat quite a few plant based meals so I can be short at times.
ETA: Also keep in mind that drinking your protein is likely not going to result in you being satiated or "full"...you're drinking calories, and they go right through you. I get absolutely no hunger stave from drinking a protein shake.4 -
I tried multiple brands & flavours and in the end decided I prefer to get my protein from foods & milk. I just don’t enjoy the sweetener taste of so many powders. For those rare times I feel I need extra protein and I’m out and about, not at home with my Fage 0% yoghurt, then I’ll chew on a protein bar.
I just yesterday threw out 4 massive half used tubs of protein powder that had gone out of date. I dread to think about the monetary value that’s now residing in my landfill bin and wish I hadn’t bothered.
An interesting Runners’ World article compared the nutrition of SIS REGO with Nestle chocolate milk powder mixed with skimmed milk. I think the only significant difference was some extra potassium in the REGO and of course the impact on your bank balance!
By all means experiment, many of us have been there and bought the T-shirt, but you may find eating your protein more satisfying if you’re on a calorie budget.3 -
If you are just starting out I would avoid adding new beverage calories until you have a good routine of staying inside your calorie goal. I would also avoid protein bars because they are calorie dense. Once you get your routine down then start tweaking your nutrition to improve protein if you need it. Do not assume you do. My protein is often much higher than I need without supplementation.6
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If you are just starting out I would avoid adding new beverage calories until you have a good routine of staying inside your calorie goal. I would also avoid protein bars because they are calorie dense. Once you get your routine down then start tweaking your nutrition to improve protein if you need it. Do not assume you do. My protein is often much higher than I need without supplementation.
This is good advice! You will definitely learn which macros you prefer too, to keep you satisfied longer and keep the hunger pangs/snackies away. Some people feel full on extra carbs, some people it's protein, some people it's fats, and some people it's all of the above. As you start to experiment with your daily calories, keep an eye on the days you end up hungry or the days you feel satisfied. You can note this in the daily notes. Then, you can go back later and see what macro trends are present on the satisfied days and adjust your meals to that.
*I hope this makes sense, I have difficulty putting words together sometimes.1 -
jjironaddict wrote: »In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.
Yes, let's take advice from a guy who was on steroids and died from a drug overdose. Much better than protein powders. /sarcasm.
OP, if you find yourself falling short on protein, than supplementation is a good way to help with that. I prefer PEScience or Quest. I have found no better brands.
But gaining muscle is not only about good nutrition, but it's also about following a solid lifting program. Depending what your goals are, you can look at the below list to figure out where is a good place to start. StrongCurves is by far the most popular, but Thinner, Leaner, Stronger and Stephanie Buttermore's programs are also solid.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1
Because Rich abused his body with PEDs doesn't mean he wasn't knowledgable about nutrition....he was a champion body builder FFS, go watch his videos on nutrition or you could waste your money I dont care1 -
jjironaddict wrote: »In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.
I find protein powder super convenient and a great supplement to my diet. I already ate chicken, eggs, cottage cheese, fish.. sometimes protein shake hits the spot. It's so fast too, 25g in 2 min..plus no chewing.. yes please!8 -
jjironaddict wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.
Yes, let's take advice from a guy who was on steroids and died from a drug overdose. Much better than protein powders. /sarcasm.
OP, if you find yourself falling short on protein, than supplementation is a good way to help with that. I prefer PEScience or Quest. I have found no better brands.
But gaining muscle is not only about good nutrition, but it's also about following a solid lifting program. Depending what your goals are, you can look at the below list to figure out where is a good place to start. StrongCurves is by far the most popular, but Thinner, Leaner, Stronger and Stephanie Buttermore's programs are also solid.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1
Because Rich abused his body with PEDs doesn't mean he wasn't knowledgable about nutrition....he was a champion body builder FFS, go watch his videos on nutrition or you could waste your money I dont care
I would assume that someone who was truly a good source on nutritional information would manage to reach champion bodybuilder status without using steroids.
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janejellyroll wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.
Yes, let's take advice from a guy who was on steroids and died from a drug overdose. Much better than protein powders. /sarcasm.
OP, if you find yourself falling short on protein, than supplementation is a good way to help with that. I prefer PEScience or Quest. I have found no better brands.
But gaining muscle is not only about good nutrition, but it's also about following a solid lifting program. Depending what your goals are, you can look at the below list to figure out where is a good place to start. StrongCurves is by far the most popular, but Thinner, Leaner, Stronger and Stephanie Buttermore's programs are also solid.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1
Because Rich abused his body with PEDs doesn't mean he wasn't knowledgable about nutrition....he was a champion body builder FFS, go watch his videos on nutrition or you could waste your money I dont care
I would assume that someone who was truly a good source on nutritional information would manage to reach champion bodybuilder status without using steroids.
😂 ok. You need to educate yourself on the sport and the capabilities of the human body, to be a champion bodybuilder you have to take PEDs that's an accepted fact across the sport.2 -
jjironaddict wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.
Yes, let's take advice from a guy who was on steroids and died from a drug overdose. Much better than protein powders. /sarcasm.
OP, if you find yourself falling short on protein, than supplementation is a good way to help with that. I prefer PEScience or Quest. I have found no better brands.
But gaining muscle is not only about good nutrition, but it's also about following a solid lifting program. Depending what your goals are, you can look at the below list to figure out where is a good place to start. StrongCurves is by far the most popular, but Thinner, Leaner, Stronger and Stephanie Buttermore's programs are also solid.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1
Because Rich abused his body with PEDs doesn't mean he wasn't knowledgable about nutrition....he was a champion body builder FFS, go watch his videos on nutrition or you could waste your money I dont care
I would assume that someone who was truly a good source on nutritional information would manage to reach champion bodybuilder status without using steroids.
😂 ok. You need to educate yourself on the sport and the capabilities of the human body, to be a champion bodybuilder you have to take PEDs that's an accepted fact across the sport.
If PEDs are required to participate, it's not a "sport," as you're not testing the capabilities of the human body but the capabilities of human pharmaceuticals.
In either case, you should refrain from giving information to people who aren't interested in PEDs, you're in a whole different realm than those of us using food and exercise to meet our goals.9 -
I use Nutricost whey protein isolate, unflavored. No fat, no carbs/sugar, and it works as well in my cooking/baking recipes as it does in beverages. I buy it in 5lb tubs so it's only $0.57/oz.1
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janejellyroll wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.
Yes, let's take advice from a guy who was on steroids and died from a drug overdose. Much better than protein powders. /sarcasm.
OP, if you find yourself falling short on protein, than supplementation is a good way to help with that. I prefer PEScience or Quest. I have found no better brands.
But gaining muscle is not only about good nutrition, but it's also about following a solid lifting program. Depending what your goals are, you can look at the below list to figure out where is a good place to start. StrongCurves is by far the most popular, but Thinner, Leaner, Stronger and Stephanie Buttermore's programs are also solid.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1
Because Rich abused his body with PEDs doesn't mean he wasn't knowledgable about nutrition....he was a champion body builder FFS, go watch his videos on nutrition or you could waste your money I dont care
I would assume that someone who was truly a good source on nutritional information would manage to reach champion bodybuilder status without using steroids.
😂 ok. You need to educate yourself on the sport and the capabilities of the human body, to be a champion bodybuilder you have to take PEDs that's an accepted fact across the sport.
If PEDs are required to participate, it's not a "sport," as you're not testing the capabilities of the human body but the capabilities of human pharmaceuticals.
In either case, you should refrain from giving information to people who aren't interested in PEDs, you're in a whole different realm than those of us using food and exercise to meet our goals.
Ok if you say so 😂, also I never brought the subject of PEDs up..read above, I also never said I use them and nor do I, so behave yourself.1 -
jjironaddict wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.
Yes, let's take advice from a guy who was on steroids and died from a drug overdose. Much better than protein powders. /sarcasm.
OP, if you find yourself falling short on protein, than supplementation is a good way to help with that. I prefer PEScience or Quest. I have found no better brands.
But gaining muscle is not only about good nutrition, but it's also about following a solid lifting program. Depending what your goals are, you can look at the below list to figure out where is a good place to start. StrongCurves is by far the most popular, but Thinner, Leaner, Stronger and Stephanie Buttermore's programs are also solid.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1
Because Rich abused his body with PEDs doesn't mean he wasn't knowledgable about nutrition....he was a champion body builder FFS, go watch his videos on nutrition or you could waste your money I dont care
I would assume that someone who was truly a good source on nutritional information would manage to reach champion bodybuilder status without using steroids.
😂 ok. You need to educate yourself on the sport and the capabilities of the human body, to be a champion bodybuilder you have to take PEDs that's an accepted fact across the sport.
If PEDs are required to participate, it's not a "sport," as you're not testing the capabilities of the human body but the capabilities of human pharmaceuticals.
In either case, you should refrain from giving information to people who aren't interested in PEDs, you're in a whole different realm than those of us using food and exercise to meet our goals.
Ok if you say so 😂, also I never brought the subject of PEDs up..read above, I also never said I use them and nor do I, so behave yourself.
You recommended a known PED user as an expert on nutrition and then defended his use as essential to the sport. My comments to you are based on that. In either case, it isn't applicable to people who are using food and exercise to meet their goals, so let's focus on advice relevant to that group, okay?
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janejellyroll wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »jjironaddict wrote: »In the words of Rich Piana "protein powders....GARBAGE!" I wouldn't waste your money on protein powders, I took them for years and found getting what I need from food is the best thing you can do.
Yes, let's take advice from a guy who was on steroids and died from a drug overdose. Much better than protein powders. /sarcasm.
OP, if you find yourself falling short on protein, than supplementation is a good way to help with that. I prefer PEScience or Quest. I have found no better brands.
But gaining muscle is not only about good nutrition, but it's also about following a solid lifting program. Depending what your goals are, you can look at the below list to figure out where is a good place to start. StrongCurves is by far the most popular, but Thinner, Leaner, Stronger and Stephanie Buttermore's programs are also solid.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1
Because Rich abused his body with PEDs doesn't mean he wasn't knowledgable about nutrition....he was a champion body builder FFS, go watch his videos on nutrition or you could waste your money I dont care
I would assume that someone who was truly a good source on nutritional information would manage to reach champion bodybuilder status without using steroids.
😂 ok. You need to educate yourself on the sport and the capabilities of the human body, to be a champion bodybuilder you have to take PEDs that's an accepted fact across the sport.
If PEDs are required to participate, it's not a "sport," as you're not testing the capabilities of the human body but the capabilities of human pharmaceuticals.
In either case, you should refrain from giving information to people who aren't interested in PEDs, you're in a whole different realm than those of us using food and exercise to meet our goals.
Ok if you say so 😂, also I never brought the subject of PEDs up..read above, I also never said I use them and nor do I, so behave yourself.
You recommended a known PED user as an expert on nutrition and then defended his use as essential to the sport. My comments to you are based on that. In either case, it isn't applicable to people who are using food and exercise to meet their goals, so let's focus on advice relevant to that group, okay?
So he used PEDs and? His knowledge of nutrition and training become null and void as a result? Don't be ridiculous.1
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