Coronavirus
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TooDamnSweet wrote: »Am i missing something here? Other than it being new this Corona virus is really just get sick for a week or so and then get better. As more testing is done of course it will be shown that far more people have it.....it will also bring its mortality rate way down in the process. Im sure thousands of people have had it already and didnt know it. If the cure of a sickness is stay home and rest and in a week to 10 days youll feel better.....im thinking im not all that concerned about it.
Agree 100%. The mortality rate for the average person is extremely low. I don’t get the hype.
If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given. But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.
Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious. People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus. Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU.
The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%. The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is etimated to be at least 2%. It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll. There will also be a huge economic impact.
So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed.
I am informed. I am an ER PA and some of the information you posted is incorrect. We get the latest updates from our infectious disease specialists.
The mortality rate for people under 60 is less than 1%. It is a bit higher for older individuals in the 70s and 80s but this is also true for influenza and any other illness. Most people don’t get tested as their illness is very mild so they don’t even contribute to the number of cases. We are only testing people who are considered seriously high risk or who are admitted to ICU.
I do agree that people need to do better about washing their hands.
This situation is being blown way out of proportion.
I am also informed. Which specific information do you feel is incorrect?2 -
this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -2 -
It's all a conspiracy theory. Where's Mel Gibson when you need you a good hit of paranoia?1
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this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.3 -
GettinLean19 wrote: »TooDamnSweet wrote: »Am i missing something here? Other than it being new this Corona virus is really just get sick for a week or so and then get better. As more testing is done of course it will be shown that far more people have it.....it will also bring its mortality rate way down in the process. Im sure thousands of people have had it already and didnt know it. If the cure of a sickness is stay home and rest and in a week to 10 days youll feel better.....im thinking im not all that concerned about it.
Agree 100%. The mortality rate for the average person is extremely low. I don’t get the hype.
If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given. But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.
Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious. People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus. Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU.
The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%. The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is etimated to be at least 2%. It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll. There will also be a huge economic impact.
So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed.
I am informed. I am an ER PA and some of the information you posted is incorrect. We get the latest updates from our infectious disease specialists.
The mortality rate for people under 60 is less than 1%. It is a bit higher for older individuals in the 70s and 80s but this is also true for influenza and any other illness. Most people don’t get tested as their illness is very mild so they don’t even contribute to the number of cases. We are only testing people who are considered seriously high risk or who are admitted to ICU.
I do agree that people need to do better about washing their hands.
This situation is being blown way out of proportion.
This was kinda hot, not gonna lie
right?
.....who knew that flu talk could give someone a semi ??2 -
Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Y’know ive heard there are better places than olive garden.1 -
12 monkeys did this already.1
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TwitchyMacGee wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Y’know ive heard there are better places than olive garden.
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TwitchyMacGee wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Y’know ive heard there are better places than olive garden.
And she told me herself0 -
TwitchyMacGee wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Y’know ive heard there are better places than olive garden.
Unpossible .
And you’ve just set yourself up for an avalanche of “disagrees”.2 -
oh and by the way - I have dust masks for sale
for two
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rainandsilence wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Spaghetti and meatballs with unlimited breadsticks and salad is better than Italy with the constant smell of diesel in the air and the bum grabbing in the piazzas. Trust me I’ve been there.
So Italy is basically every family reunion I’ve ever been to3 -
GettinLean19 wrote: »rainandsilence wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Spaghetti and meatballs with unlimited breadsticks and salad is better than Italy with the constant smell of diesel in the air and the bum grabbing in the piazzas. Trust me I’ve been there.
So Italy is basically every family reunion I’ve ever been to
Hey Cuz!
um.... what are you wearing?1 -
Motorsheen wrote: »GettinLean19 wrote: »rainandsilence wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Spaghetti and meatballs with unlimited breadsticks and salad is better than Italy with the constant smell of diesel in the air and the bum grabbing in the piazzas. Trust me I’ve been there.
So Italy is basically every family reunion I’ve ever been to
Hey Cuz!
um.... what are you wearing?
you promised mum you’d leave me alone till I at least graduate2 -
GettinLean19 wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »GettinLean19 wrote: »rainandsilence wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Spaghetti and meatballs with unlimited breadsticks and salad is better than Italy with the constant smell of diesel in the air and the bum grabbing in the piazzas. Trust me I’ve been there.
So Italy is basically every family reunion I’ve ever been to
Hey Cuz!
um.... what are you wearing?
you promised mum you’d leave me alone till I at least graduate
😆 she got ya @Motorsheen :laugh:2 -
slimgirljo15 wrote: »GettinLean19 wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »GettinLean19 wrote: »rainandsilence wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Spaghetti and meatballs with unlimited breadsticks and salad is better than Italy with the constant smell of diesel in the air and the bum grabbing in the piazzas. Trust me I’ve been there.
So Italy is basically every family reunion I’ve ever been to
Hey Cuz!
um.... what are you wearing?
you promised mum you’d leave me alone till I at least graduate
😆 she got ya @Motorsheen :laugh:
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GettinLean19 wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »GettinLean19 wrote: »rainandsilence wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Spaghetti and meatballs with unlimited breadsticks and salad is better than Italy with the constant smell of diesel in the air and the bum grabbing in the piazzas. Trust me I’ve been there.
So Italy is basically every family reunion I’ve ever been to
Hey Cuz!
um.... what are you wearing?
you promised mum you’d leave me alone till I at least graduate
Graduate?
Heck, high school can't end fast enough, can it ?
(Although, to be honest....... My second try at my sophomore year was the best three years of my life.)
Besides, mum won't remember anyway; she drinks.
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rainandsilence wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
[ and the bum grabbing in the piazzas.
..... why else would anyone travel to Italy ??
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Motorsheen wrote: »GettinLean19 wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »GettinLean19 wrote: »rainandsilence wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »this would be the part I'd question - where did this info come from and how did they obtain their numbers?
" It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll."
this is definitely not coming from the WHO or the CDC
sounds more like scare tactics to get you to buy some product or enroll in some health program that doesn't pay out squat for anything -
Fear Sells, it damn sure does.
On a side note, we had a whirlwind, madcap, Italian adventure planned for later this fall.
Florence, Milan, Rome, Venice... All Cancelled!
I reckon now that we'll just be visiting our local Olive Garden instead.
Spaghetti and meatballs with unlimited breadsticks and salad is better than Italy with the constant smell of diesel in the air and the bum grabbing in the piazzas. Trust me I’ve been there.
So Italy is basically every family reunion I’ve ever been to
Hey Cuz!
um.... what are you wearing?
you promised mum you’d leave me alone till I at least graduate
Graduate?
Heck, high school can't end fast enough, can it ?
(Although, to be honest....... My second try at my sophomore year was the best three years of my life.)
Besides, mum won't remember anyway; she drinks.
You are such a dork 🤣😂2 -
TooDamnSweet wrote: »TooDamnSweet wrote: »Am i missing something here? Other than it being new this Corona virus is really just get sick for a week or so and then get better. As more testing is done of course it will be shown that far more people have it.....it will also bring its mortality rate way down in the process. Im sure thousands of people have had it already and didnt know it. If the cure of a sickness is stay home and rest and in a week to 10 days youll feel better.....im thinking im not all that concerned about it.
Agree 100%. The mortality rate for the average person is extremely low. I don’t get the hype.
If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given. But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.
Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious. People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus. Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU.
The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%. The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is etimated to be at least 2%. It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll. There will also be a huge economic impact.
So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed.
I am informed. I am an ER PA and some of the information you posted is incorrect. We get the latest updates from our infectious disease specialists.
The mortality rate for people under 60 is less than 1%. It is a bit higher for older individuals in the 70s and 80s but this is also true for influenza and any other illness. Most people don’t get tested as their illness is very mild so they don’t even contribute to the number of cases. We are only testing people who are considered seriously high risk or who are admitted to ICU.
I do agree that people need to do better about washing their hands.
This situation is being blown way out of proportion.
I am also informed. Which specific information do you feel is incorrect?
All of it. The specialists are telling me mortality rate is about 1%. Obviously, this number is higher for the elderly with comorbidities but that’s true for any virus.2 -
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TooDamnSweet wrote: »TooDamnSweet wrote: »Am i missing something here? Other than it being new this Corona virus is really just get sick for a week or so and then get better. As more testing is done of course it will be shown that far more people have it.....it will also bring its mortality rate way down in the process. Im sure thousands of people have had it already and didnt know it. If the cure of a sickness is stay home and rest and in a week to 10 days youll feel better.....im thinking im not all that concerned about it.
Agree 100%. The mortality rate for the average person is extremely low. I don’t get the hype.
If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given. But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.
Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious. People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus. Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU.
The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%. The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is etimated to be at least 2%. It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll. There will also be a huge economic impact.
So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed.
I am informed. I am an ER PA and some of the information you posted is incorrect. We get the latest updates from our infectious disease specialists.
The mortality rate for people under 60 is less than 1%. It is a bit higher for older individuals in the 70s and 80s but this is also true for influenza and any other illness. Most people don’t get tested as their illness is very mild so they don’t even contribute to the number of cases. We are only testing people who are considered seriously high risk or who are admitted to ICU.
I do agree that people need to do better about washing their hands.
This situation is being blown way out of proportion.
I am also informed. Which specific information do you feel is incorrect?
All of it. The specialists are telling me mortality rate is about 1%. Obviously, this number is higher for the elderly with comorbidities but that’s true for any virus.
Everything? Interesting...
"If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given." True. The mortality rate for young, healthy people IS low, but some young, healthy people will still die, just as they do from seasonal flu.
"But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu." True
"Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious." True.
"People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus." True.
"Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU." True, per current statistics.
"The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%." True.
"The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is estimated to be at least 2%." The 2% is a CDC figure, but whether or not that is a real case fatality ratio is unknown, there is not enough data available. This is a new virus and may take 6 months or longer to determine an accurate mortality rate.
"It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus." Approximately 5-20% of Americans get the seasonal flu, which has a vaccine. There is no vaccine yet for Covid -19 which has a suspected RO of 2-3. The window for containment has passed; we have moved on to mitigation. Without serious mitigation, the 1/3 estimate is a reasonable estimate.
"At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.)" This figure is based on 1/3 of the population getting the flu and is the calculation is correct.
"Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll." This one is subjective and my opinion.
"There will also be a huge economic impact." True.
"So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed." Some reasonable advice.
My post was not an intent to frighten or panic anyone, but to encourage people to take the virus seriously and protect themselves and their loved ones.8 -
TooDamnSweet wrote: »
My post was not an intent to frighten or panic anyone, ]
well, it's a little late for that; now isn't it ??
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Motorsheen wrote: »TooDamnSweet wrote: »
My post was not an intent to frighten or panic anyone, ]
well, it's a little late for that; now isn't it ??
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I know and I appreciate that. Anyone spreading the message of hand washing is good! It isn’t true that that many people get Serious symptoms and end up in ICU. Most people with this virus have mild symptoms and don’t even seek care. I think those stats are off but we are getting new information daily.TooDamnSweet wrote: »TooDamnSweet wrote: »TooDamnSweet wrote: »Am i missing something here? Other than it being new this Corona virus is really just get sick for a week or so and then get better. As more testing is done of course it will be shown that far more people have it.....it will also bring its mortality rate way down in the process. Im sure thousands of people have had it already and didnt know it. If the cure of a sickness is stay home and rest and in a week to 10 days youll feel better.....im thinking im not all that concerned about it.
Agree 100%. The mortality rate for the average person is extremely low. I don’t get the hype.
If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given. But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.
Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious. People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus. Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU.
The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%. The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is etimated to be at least 2%. It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll. There will also be a huge economic impact.
So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed.
I am informed. I am an ER PA and some of the information you posted is incorrect. We get the latest updates from our infectious disease specialists.
The mortality rate for people under 60 is less than 1%. It is a bit higher for older individuals in the 70s and 80s but this is also true for influenza and any other illness. Most people don’t get tested as their illness is very mild so they don’t even contribute to the number of cases. We are only testing people who are considered seriously high risk or who are admitted to ICU.
I do agree that people need to do better about washing their hands.
This situation is being blown way out of proportion.
I am also informed. Which specific information do you feel is incorrect?
All of it. The specialists are telling me mortality rate is about 1%. Obviously, this number is higher for the elderly with comorbidities but that’s true for any virus.
Everything? Interesting...
"If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given." True. The mortality rate for young, healthy people IS low, but some young, healthy people will still die, just as they do from seasonal flu.
"But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu." True
"Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious." True.
"People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus." True.
"Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU." True, per current statistics.
"The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%." True.
"The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is estimated to be at least 2%." The 2% is a CDC figure, but whether or not that is a real case fatality ratio is unknown, there is not enough data available. This is a new virus and may take 6 months or longer to determine an accurate mortality rate.
"It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus." Approximately 5-20% of Americans get the seasonal flu, which has a vaccine. There is no vaccine yet for Covid -19 which has a suspected RO of 2-3. The window for containment has passed; we have moved on to mitigation. Without serious mitigation, the 1/3 estimate is a reasonable estimate.
"At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.)" This figure is based on 1/3 of the population getting the flu and is the calculation is correct.
"Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll." This one is subjective and my opinion.
"There will also be a huge economic impact." True.
"So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed." Some reasonable advice.
My post was not an intent to frighten or panic anyone, but to encourage people to take the virus seriously and protect themselves and their loved ones.
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I’m sorry I haven’t been here to support and encourage you and provide you with great health tips but I’m worried that by posting on this thread I could catch the coronavirus.
But I washed my keyboard so this post should be free of viruses.
Stay safe.
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