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  • bojack5
    bojack5 Posts: 2,859 Member
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    bojack5 wrote: »
    just_moi6 wrote: »
    bojack5 wrote: »
    Idk. There’s talk of closing the nearby college after spring break and finishing the semester online. Only rumors so far. It’s a college town. The impact on the local economy would be kind of a big deal.

    I agree the reaction to the virus is becoming a big deal for sure. I dont see the virus itself warranting such a massive reaction though.

    The virus itself doesn’t worry me but people
    Buying out all the medical supplies and food supplies every time something like this hits the media incase they get ill or because they want to hibernate until passes so they don’t catch it IS a worry for Those that need a regular weekly supply because they live with illnesses every day.

    I agree with this.

    People are self quarantining. I do 30 personal training sessions a week. As of now next week i have just 16 because of people being cautious.

    How do you fit all that into your schedule with all the work you do on houses?

    I work a lot. I enjoy just about everything i do. Its surprising how much you can do when work is also like something you would do in your free time. I currently am looking for my next flip house, so there are weeks where i am not renovating a house.
  • Vikka_V
    Vikka_V Posts: 9,563 Member
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    Now I can’t even find toilet paper at my local market and I don’t have a bidet

    For real, my mom went to Costco yesterday and all the tp, tissue and paper towels were sold out, they were filling the empty spaces with cases of water...I heard from client today that the popular drugstore chain was also sold out.

    I drank the KoolAid a bit and went to a grocery store on my way home from work (was gonna go to Walmart, but after Costco - figured they would be next to be depleted) to check out the situation...the store was well stocked...so far 😰🤞

    ...I was stressing all morning about the possibility of having to barter for or pay exorbitantly for basic necessities

    Oh, and @rainandsilence ...just because I love you! Have you ever seen the tv show Extreme Cheapskates?
    ...reminds me of the episode with the reusable tp🤢
  • corinasue1143
    corinasue1143 Posts: 7,467 Member
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    So now I’m wondering if I had it in February. Looked up the symptoms. Several people at the gym had a very bad cold, not a head cold, not a chest cold, just a lot of coughing. but it seemed well after 5-7 days. We went back to the gym, but couldn’t hack it because we just couldn’t breathe deep enough, had to leave class. Both young and old. Either a strange cold, or we had it!
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
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    So now I’m wondering if I had it in February. Looked up the symptoms. Several people at the gym had a very bad cold, not a head cold, not a chest cold, just a lot of coughing. but it seemed well after 5-7 days. We went back to the gym, but couldn’t hack it because we just couldn’t breathe deep enough, had to leave class. Both young and old. Either a strange cold, or we had it!

    And that's the thing.....there could be thousands of people who have had it and recovered. How would we ever know? People haven't been tested all that long and honestly, how can they tell where it originated from 100%? Some market in China, passed around between humans and animals? Is that true? I feel it's been around awhile and people are only recently making it a 'thing'. I'm not trying to downplay it either because I strongly feel if you're at higher risk than most, you need to do as much as humanly possible to avoid situations that could cause illness. But that's the way it's been with any virus or sickness going around. :( People with compromised immune systems have a harder time fighting colds, flus, etc. :(

    Yes, it's scary. It's causing panic and chaos and bare aisles. But is that necessary? Is it a scare tactic? Is it a political thing? Watch the stock market bounce back and the current administration take all the credit, just in time for voting. :wink:
  • GettinLean19
    GettinLean19 Posts: 452 Member
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    So much of it is perspective. I agree the media is running with it whether the virus warrants that or not. They (the media) rely on new panic buzzwords to keep people watching. Last year over 10 million people came down with measles, for example. Over 140,000 people died from it, mostly children. Yet we have a vaccine for it that some people choose to actively avoid. Meanwhile people are clamoring for a vaccine for coronavirus when they can hardly discern it from the common cold without a test. Perception of danger is a huge factor and the media rely on that to sell the hype.
  • Mr_Healthy_Habits
    Mr_Healthy_Habits Posts: 12,588 Member
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  • TooDamnSweet
    TooDamnSweet Posts: 63 Member
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    nooshi713 wrote: »
    bojack5 wrote: »
    Am i missing something here? Other than it being new this Corona virus is really just get sick for a week or so and then get better. As more testing is done of course it will be shown that far more people have it.....it will also bring its mortality rate way down in the process. Im sure thousands of people have had it already and didnt know it. If the cure of a sickness is stay home and rest and in a week to 10 days youll feel better.....im thinking im not all that concerned about it.

    Agree 100%. The mortality rate for the average person is extremely low. I don’t get the hype.

    If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given. But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.

    Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious. People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus. Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU.

    The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%. The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is etimated to be at least 2%. It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll. There will also be a huge economic impact.

    So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed.
  • XxFunctionalStrengthxX
    XxFunctionalStrengthxX Posts: 2,466 Member
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    nooshi713 wrote: »
    bojack5 wrote: »
    Am i missing something here? Other than it being new this Corona virus is really just get sick for a week or so and then get better. As more testing is done of course it will be shown that far more people have it.....it will also bring its mortality rate way down in the process. Im sure thousands of people have had it already and didnt know it. If the cure of a sickness is stay home and rest and in a week to 10 days youll feel better.....im thinking im not all that concerned about it.

    Agree 100%. The mortality rate for the average person is extremely low. I don’t get the hype.

    If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given. But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.

    Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious. People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus. Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU.

    The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%. The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is etimated to be at least 2%. It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll. There will also be a huge economic impact.

    So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed.

    Currently in the US there's over 500 cases, with a death toll of 22. About 4.4% mortality rate. That number will probably skyrocket over the next couple of weeks to a month.

    Here in WA state: 136 cases with 18 death is about 13.2% mortality rate.
  • Plague_Doktor
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  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
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    A group of high school students went to Italy, right before they found out everybody was getting infected, so they pulled them right on back. *I* was under the impression they were being quarantined. But dh says, they're being monitored, as they attend classes and go through their daily lives as usual. I said 'they can be contagious with or without symptoms'!! WTH His reply was they weren't in the area being affected. Um okay. :( Do we not see how quickly it spreads?? He works at this school. To me, he'd be compromised due to his age/smoking/health.

    Grrrr. Then you see more cases of people ignoring the quarantine order and going out in public anyways. Three that I've read about recently, but probably more we don't hear about. :(
    I'm not freaking out or panicking. But I am. :/

    Stay healthy as possible everybody and stay away from people.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,874 Member
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    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Haha desperate times call for desperate measures.

    Yeh, you have to wonder how many people had "colds", coughs and fevers, this past season who may have recuperated just like a cold but actually had the virus. People wouldn't have gone running out to be tested for every sign of illness...it's winter, we get sicker in the winter.
    They say most people will only get slightly sick; the elderly and those with compromised immune systems are in more danger of developing serious sickness.

    It's only winter in the northern hemisphere. It is summer in the southern hemisphere where it is also spreading quickly.
  • GettinLean19
    GettinLean19 Posts: 452 Member
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    nooshi713 wrote: »
    nooshi713 wrote: »
    bojack5 wrote: »
    Am i missing something here? Other than it being new this Corona virus is really just get sick for a week or so and then get better. As more testing is done of course it will be shown that far more people have it.....it will also bring its mortality rate way down in the process. Im sure thousands of people have had it already and didnt know it. If the cure of a sickness is stay home and rest and in a week to 10 days youll feel better.....im thinking im not all that concerned about it.

    Agree 100%. The mortality rate for the average person is extremely low. I don’t get the hype.

    If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given. But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.

    Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious. People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus. Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU.

    The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%. The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is etimated to be at least 2%. It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll. There will also be a huge economic impact.

    So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed.


    I am informed. I am an ER PA and some of the information you posted is incorrect. We get the latest updates from our infectious disease specialists.

    The mortality rate for people under 60 is less than 1%. It is a bit higher for older individuals in the 70s and 80s but this is also true for influenza and any other illness. Most people don’t get tested as their illness is very mild so they don’t even contribute to the number of cases. We are only testing people who are considered seriously high risk or who are admitted to ICU.

    I do agree that people need to do better about washing their hands.

    This situation is being blown way out of proportion.

    This was kinda hot, not gonna lie