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TooDamnSweet wrote: »TooDamnSweet wrote: »Am i missing something here? Other than it being new this Corona virus is really just get sick for a week or so and then get better. As more testing is done of course it will be shown that far more people have it.....it will also bring its mortality rate way down in the process. Im sure thousands of people have had it already and didnt know it. If the cure of a sickness is stay home and rest and in a week to 10 days youll feel better.....im thinking im not all that concerned about it.
Agree 100%. The mortality rate for the average person is extremely low. I don’t get the hype.
If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given. But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.
Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious. People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus. Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU.
The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%. The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is etimated to be at least 2%. It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll. There will also be a huge economic impact.
So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed.
I am informed. I am an ER PA and some of the information you posted is incorrect. We get the latest updates from our infectious disease specialists.
The mortality rate for people under 60 is less than 1%. It is a bit higher for older individuals in the 70s and 80s but this is also true for influenza and any other illness. Most people don’t get tested as their illness is very mild so they don’t even contribute to the number of cases. We are only testing people who are considered seriously high risk or who are admitted to ICU.
I do agree that people need to do better about washing their hands.
This situation is being blown way out of proportion.
I am also informed. Which specific information do you feel is incorrect?
All of it. The specialists are telling me mortality rate is about 1%. Obviously, this number is higher for the elderly with comorbidities but that’s true for any virus.
Everything? Interesting...
"If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given." True. The mortality rate for young, healthy people IS low, but some young, healthy people will still die, just as they do from seasonal flu.
"But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu." True
"Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious." True.
"People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus." True.
"Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU." True, per current statistics.
"The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%." True.
"The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is estimated to be at least 2%." The 2% is a CDC figure, but whether or not that is a real case fatality ratio is unknown, there is not enough data available. This is a new virus and may take 6 months or longer to determine an accurate mortality rate.
"It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus." Approximately 5-20% of Americans get the seasonal flu, which has a vaccine. There is no vaccine yet for Covid -19 which has a suspected RO of 2-3. The window for containment has passed; we have moved on to mitigation. Without serious mitigation, the 1/3 estimate is a reasonable estimate.
"At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.)" This figure is based on 1/3 of the population getting the flu and is the calculation is correct.
"Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll." This one is subjective and my opinion.
"There will also be a huge economic impact." True.
"So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed." Some reasonable advice.
My post was not an intent to frighten or panic anyone, but to encourage people to take the virus seriously and protect themselves and their loved ones.8 -
TooDamnSweet wrote: »
My post was not an intent to frighten or panic anyone, ]
well, it's a little late for that; now isn't it ??
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Motorsheen wrote: »TooDamnSweet wrote: »
My post was not an intent to frighten or panic anyone, ]
well, it's a little late for that; now isn't it ??
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I know and I appreciate that. Anyone spreading the message of hand washing is good! It isn’t true that that many people get Serious symptoms and end up in ICU. Most people with this virus have mild symptoms and don’t even seek care. I think those stats are off but we are getting new information daily.TooDamnSweet wrote: »TooDamnSweet wrote: »TooDamnSweet wrote: »Am i missing something here? Other than it being new this Corona virus is really just get sick for a week or so and then get better. As more testing is done of course it will be shown that far more people have it.....it will also bring its mortality rate way down in the process. Im sure thousands of people have had it already and didnt know it. If the cure of a sickness is stay home and rest and in a week to 10 days youll feel better.....im thinking im not all that concerned about it.
Agree 100%. The mortality rate for the average person is extremely low. I don’t get the hype.
If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given. But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.
Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious. People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus. Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU.
The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%. The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is etimated to be at least 2%. It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus. At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.) Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll. There will also be a huge economic impact.
So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed.
I am informed. I am an ER PA and some of the information you posted is incorrect. We get the latest updates from our infectious disease specialists.
The mortality rate for people under 60 is less than 1%. It is a bit higher for older individuals in the 70s and 80s but this is also true for influenza and any other illness. Most people don’t get tested as their illness is very mild so they don’t even contribute to the number of cases. We are only testing people who are considered seriously high risk or who are admitted to ICU.
I do agree that people need to do better about washing their hands.
This situation is being blown way out of proportion.
I am also informed. Which specific information do you feel is incorrect?
All of it. The specialists are telling me mortality rate is about 1%. Obviously, this number is higher for the elderly with comorbidities but that’s true for any virus.
Everything? Interesting...
"If you are young (under 30) and healthy you may not have much to worry about, although that is not a given." True. The mortality rate for young, healthy people IS low, but some young, healthy people will still die, just as they do from seasonal flu.
"But Covid-19 is much deadlier than the seasonal flu." True
"Some people who get Covid-19 have no symptoms but are still contagious." True.
"People with mild cases may also not be aware that they have Covid-19 and could continue to spread the virus." True.
"Of those people who do have symptoms, 20% become seriously ill with about 3-5% ending up in the ICU." True, per current statistics.
"The Chinese said the mortality rate is 2.3%; the W.H.O. has estimated the rate at 3.4%." True.
"The actual mortality rate won't be known for many months, but right now it is estimated to be at least 2%." The 2% is a CDC figure, but whether or not that is a real case fatality ratio is unknown, there is not enough data available. This is a new virus and may take 6 months or longer to determine an accurate mortality rate.
"It is also estimated that 1/3 of Americans will get the virus." Approximately 5-20% of Americans get the seasonal flu, which has a vaccine. There is no vaccine yet for Covid -19 which has a suspected RO of 2-3. The window for containment has passed; we have moved on to mitigation. Without serious mitigation, the 1/3 estimate is a reasonable estimate.
"At a 2% mortality rate it will result in over 2 million deaths in the USA. (Over 400 million world wide.)" This figure is based on 1/3 of the population getting the flu and is the calculation is correct.
"Even at a 1% mortality rate we are talking about a devastating death toll." This one is subjective and my opinion.
"There will also be a huge economic impact." True.
"So be vigilant about your hand washing and make thoughtful decisions about travel and social interaction. Keep yourself informed." Some reasonable advice.
My post was not an intent to frighten or panic anyone, but to encourage people to take the virus seriously and protect themselves and their loved ones.
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I’m sorry I haven’t been here to support and encourage you and provide you with great health tips but I’m worried that by posting on this thread I could catch the coronavirus.
But I washed my keyboard so this post should be free of viruses.
Stay safe.
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_Miss_chievous_ wrote: »
Dammit. Now I’m feeling a certain kind of way1 -
_Miss_chievous_ wrote: »
I don't think that's what they meant when they said for sick people... 😂3 -
Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »_Miss_chievous_ wrote: »
I don't think that's what they meant when they said for sick people... 😂
No? Damn!
Well..I'm out of here then. 👋
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This Dr Fauci character seems way too happy talking corona virus. Bet he never got this much attention in his entire life.0
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On a more serious note... even though I'm at high risk if I catch the coronavirus I'm not that worried about it. I avoided people before it was a "thing" and I wash my hands.4
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TwitchyMacGee wrote: »_Miss_chievous_ wrote: »
Dammit. Now I’m feeling a certain kind of way
funniest thing i have seen since 19921 -
_Miss_chievous_ wrote: »
This Corona Virus ???
Where exactly do I need to go & what do I have to do in order to catch me some ??1 -
First all the hand sanitizer ads in my news feed, now Netflix trying to cash in too. No Netflix, I'm pretty sure people aren't rushing to watch an oldass movie about a pandemic right now.1
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