WHO has just declared Coronavirus a pandemic
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Ha! I didn't know the other thread was shut down for awhile. I didn't see any problems in it. Some people are in a different place with this--they will come around, sadly.
As of today we, in Italy, are confined to our homes except for buying necessities. All non-essential businesses are closed. We are to follow China's example, since it's working. The streets are deserted. There are lines outside of grocery stores. This is a government mandate for 2 weeks, but I expect it to last a month (or more?). My husband already had cabin fever this morning, it's like being locked up with a kid. I sent him to his office across the street. Sigh. It's going to be a long month.
On the front page of one of our newspapers this morning is a photo of a young man ( a soccer player)in the hospital with a respiratory mask on. He said "I thought I was young, strong, and invincible. I was wrong". He also said " All of a sudden I couldn't breathe".17 -
paperpudding wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »I myself went from 99% sure I was still going to go on my vacation yesterday to now 50/50.
But again, not of the fear of getting ill, but of the fear of closed borders, cancelled flights etc.
Toronto - Amsterdam - Casablanca Morocco
Marrakesh Morocco - Paris - Toronto
I can relate.
I am booked to fly to UK from Australia in mid August for my daughters wedding (she lives in UK) and then go on 2 week Europe river cruise Amsterdam to Budapest
Have paid a hefty deposit and rest of money due end of May.
I mean, nobody would fly from Australia to UK for one weekend and boycotting my daughters wedding wouldnt go down well.
But no point going on a cruise even if the cruise itself is not cancelled, if you can't get off and go to places and events.
I know, first world problem - but dilemma to me.
I hope this will be over by August, but that depends on how people behave worldwide. Hugs.6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Ha! I didn't know the other thread was shut down for awhile. I didn't see any problems in it. Some people are in a different place with this--they will come around, sadly.
As of today we, in Italy, are confined to our homes except for buying necessities. All non-essential businesses are closed. We are to follow China's example, since it's working. The streets are deserted. There are lines outside of grocery stores. This is a government mandate for 2 weeks, but I expect it to last a month (or more?). My husband already had cabin fever this morning, it's like being locked up with a kid. I sent him to his office across the street. Sigh. It's going to be a long month.
On the front page of one of our newspapers this morning is a photo of a young man ( a soccer player)in the hospital with a respiratory mask on. He said "I thought I was young, strong, and invincible. I was wrong". He also said " All of a sudden I couldn't breathe".
It‘s crazy how many people got infected in Italy. My old mom lives in Germany, def. a high risk case. Just glad I can move there soon and see her. Who knows how crazy things wil get before it’s getting better.
They might shut everything down for the rest of Europe just like in Italy.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Ha! I didn't know the other thread was shut down for awhile. I didn't see any problems in it. Some people are in a different place with this--they will come around, sadly.
As of today we, in Italy, are confined to our homes except for buying necessities. All non-essential businesses are closed. We are to follow China's example, since it's working. The streets are deserted. There are lines outside of grocery stores. This is a government mandate for 2 weeks, but I expect it to last a month (or more?). My husband already had cabin fever this morning, it's like being locked up with a kid. I sent him to his office across the street. Sigh. It's going to be a long month.
On the front page of one of our newspapers this morning is a photo of a young man ( a soccer player)in the hospital with a respiratory mask on. He said "I thought I was young, strong, and invincible. I was wrong". He also said " All of a sudden I couldn't breathe".
It astonishes me that're even allowing lines to form, outside of grocery stores. Standing within a line's no different, than standing within a crowd or being within, any other type of gathering.
With the quarantines that Italy's implementing countrywide, I'd have thought that a member via 1 household at a time'd have to choose a time slot of 15 minutes to shop. To keep even necessity shoppers, via coming into contact with each other.2 -
I get into some deep thinking while I'm showering. My whole thought revolved around the eye-opening thought of how many people am I shaking hands with every day when I sign those credit card thingies at the stores??
Talk about not knowing who you're coming into contact with. 3 -
cmriverside wrote: »
It was just different. I'm allowed to speculate, no? I still think it's been here longer than mid-February. I can't prove it was, you can't prove it wasn't.
I 100% believe it has been worldwide since near the beginning. All you have to do is think about how long it can take for symptoms to show and how many people may not even show symptoms. There is no way it did not make its way out of China sooner then we are no seeing. We just didn't know it existed AND were not testing for it. There is NO way to know 100% how many people have it and have had it.5 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Ha! I didn't know the other thread was shut down for awhile. I didn't see any problems in it. Some people are in a different place with this--they will come around, sadly.
As of today we, in Italy, are confined to our homes except for buying necessities. All non-essential businesses are closed. We are to follow China's example, since it's working. The streets are deserted. There are lines outside of grocery stores. This is a government mandate for 2 weeks, but I expect it to last a month (or more?). My husband already had cabin fever this morning, it's like being locked up with a kid. I sent him to his office across the street. Sigh. It's going to be a long month.
On the front page of one of our newspapers this morning is a photo of a young man ( a soccer player)in the hospital with a respiratory mask on. He said "I thought I was young, strong, and invincible. I was wrong". He also said " All of a sudden I couldn't breathe".
It astonishes me that're even allowing lines to form, outside of grocery stores. Standing within a line's no different, than standing within a crowd or being within, any other type of gathering.
With the quarantines that Italy's implementing countrywide, I'd have thought that a member via 1 household at a time'd have to choose a time slot of 15 minutes to shop. To keep even necessity shoppers, via coming into contact with each other.
People are require to stay 4 feet (a meter) away from the next person in line. I'll be going grocery shopping in an hour. I'll let you know how it goes.13 -
just_Tomek wrote: »Today I cancelled my Morocco trip that I had planned since November. Again, not of the fear of the virus, but of the fear of getting back if more countries start banning flights etc. Sucks. Money is money, we can always make more, but health and well being is another thing.
Who knew when this thread started it would come to this in such a short time? So sorry, but I think you made the smart decision.
@ReenieHJ
I thought about this as I touching the key pad when I was using my debit card grocery shopping last week. They don’t have the tap kind yet. We just have to be vigilant and keep our hands away from our faces until we can wash or sanitize them.2 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Ha! I didn't know the other thread was shut down for awhile. I didn't see any problems in it. Some people are in a different place with this--they will come around, sadly.
As of today we, in Italy, are confined to our homes except for buying necessities. All non-essential businesses are closed. We are to follow China's example, since it's working. The streets are deserted. There are lines outside of grocery stores. This is a government mandate for 2 weeks, but I expect it to last a month (or more?). My husband already had cabin fever this morning, it's like being locked up with a kid. I sent him to his office across the street. Sigh. It's going to be a long month.
On the front page of one of our newspapers this morning is a photo of a young man ( a soccer player)in the hospital with a respiratory mask on. He said "I thought I was young, strong, and invincible. I was wrong". He also said " All of a sudden I couldn't breathe".
@snowflake954 I kept hearing on the news yesterday that we in the US are about 10 days behind Italy. Good luck to you, and to us.6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Ha! I didn't know the other thread was shut down for awhile. I didn't see any problems in it. Some people are in a different place with this--they will come around, sadly.
As of today we, in Italy, are confined to our homes except for buying necessities. All non-essential businesses are closed. We are to follow China's example, since it's working. The streets are deserted. There are lines outside of grocery stores. This is a government mandate for 2 weeks, but I expect it to last a month (or more?). My husband already had cabin fever this morning, it's like being locked up with a kid. I sent him to his office across the street. Sigh. It's going to be a long month.
On the front page of one of our newspapers this morning is a photo of a young man ( a soccer player)in the hospital with a respiratory mask on. He said "I thought I was young, strong, and invincible. I was wrong". He also said " All of a sudden I couldn't breathe".
It astonishes me that're even allowing lines to form, outside of grocery stores. Standing within a line's no different, than standing within a crowd or being within, any other type of gathering.
With the quarantines that Italy's implementing countrywide, I'd have thought that a member via 1 household at a time'd have to choose a time slot of 15 minutes to shop. To keep even necessity shoppers, via coming into contact with each other.
People are require to stay 4 feet (a meter) away from the next person in line. I'll be going grocery shopping in an hour. I'll let you know how it goes.
Okay, that definitely makes it better & I hope that you're able to obtain everything, that you need!3 -
I might have to cancel my vacation to northern Vietnam in April. Despite being in Asia, there is less chance of catching the virus in Vietnam (30 cases in Vietnam, no deaths) than at home (590 cases in the UK, 10 deaths, 136 cases in London). Vietnam has stopped issuing visa's to Europeans. We were told to apply again in 2 or 3 weeks in case the situation changes. I am not hopeful.
I have hay fever and would worry about being quarantined in Vietnam or Turkey if I am caught sniffling. We were planning to fly London-Instanbul-Hanoi and then Hanoi-Ho Chi Minh City-London.4 -
kshama2001 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Ha! I didn't know the other thread was shut down for awhile. I didn't see any problems in it. Some people are in a different place with this--they will come around, sadly.
As of today we, in Italy, are confined to our homes except for buying necessities. All non-essential businesses are closed. We are to follow China's example, since it's working. The streets are deserted. There are lines outside of grocery stores. This is a government mandate for 2 weeks, but I expect it to last a month (or more?). My husband already had cabin fever this morning, it's like being locked up with a kid. I sent him to his office across the street. Sigh. It's going to be a long month.
On the front page of one of our newspapers this morning is a photo of a young man ( a soccer player)in the hospital with a respiratory mask on. He said "I thought I was young, strong, and invincible. I was wrong". He also said " All of a sudden I couldn't breathe".
@snowflake954 I kept hearing on the news yesterday that we in the US are about 10 days behind Italy. Good luck to you, and to us.
Hugs to you hon. That's why I keep posting--we're ahead of you and this moves fast. Until people get scared enough to do the right things, so many more can get infected. 3 weeks ago we were complacent too and in a different place. If I can convince even a few people to curtail their movements, it will save lives. This is invisible at first and that's why it's so contagious. If we're careful, it can be contained. China has shown us this. I tried to go grocery shopping at 3:30 in the afternoon, our time. The line to get in the supermarket was a block long. I figured an hour. I came home and will try again when they open tomorrow morning at 8:30. I hope it will go better. I'm American and love the States. I don't want what's happening here to happen to you. I love Italy too. It makes me cry to see things this way. However, somehow we'll get through it. My worry is if someone in the family gets it. It will be hard then.
Please don't travel--that's what's spreading the virus.15 -
I might have to cancel my vacation to northern Vietnam in April. Despite being in Asia, there is less chance of catching the virus in Vietnam (30 cases in Vietnam, no deaths) than at home (590 cases in the UK, 10 deaths, 136 cases in London). Vietnam has stopped issuing visa's to Europeans. We were told to apply again in 2 or 3 weeks in case the situation changes. I am not hopeful.
I have hay fever and would worry about being quarantined in Vietnam or Turkey if I am caught sniffling. We were planning to fly London-Instanbul-Hanoi and then Hanoi-Ho Chi Minh City-London.
I would just like to tell you that by April things could and probably will be a lot worse. Many countries are not reporting their cases. It is very risky to travel at this time--take a raincheck.4 -
snowflake954 wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Ha! I didn't know the other thread was shut down for awhile. I didn't see any problems in it. Some people are in a different place with this--they will come around, sadly.
As of today we, in Italy, are confined to our homes except for buying necessities. All non-essential businesses are closed. We are to follow China's example, since it's working. The streets are deserted. There are lines outside of grocery stores. This is a government mandate for 2 weeks, but I expect it to last a month (or more?). My husband already had cabin fever this morning, it's like being locked up with a kid. I sent him to his office across the street. Sigh. It's going to be a long month.
On the front page of one of our newspapers this morning is a photo of a young man ( a soccer player)in the hospital with a respiratory mask on. He said "I thought I was young, strong, and invincible. I was wrong". He also said " All of a sudden I couldn't breathe".
It astonishes me that're even allowing lines to form, outside of grocery stores. Standing within a line's no different, than standing within a crowd or being within, any other type of gathering.
With the quarantines that Italy's implementing countrywide, I'd have thought that a member via 1 household at a time'd have to choose a time slot of 15 minutes to shop. To keep even necessity shoppers, via coming into contact with each other.
People are require to stay 4 feet (a meter) away from the next person in line. I'll be going grocery shopping in an hour. I'll let you know how it goes.
Speaking of lines, there have been some changes to our polling places for the primary on Tuesday because some of them are in nursing homes (and they are getting rid of all of those). My last polling place was, although my current one is an elementary school. Given this, the likelihood of lines being long seems possible (although maybe everyone will stay home instead of voting). I may go early vote tomorrow instead.1 -
just_Tomek wrote: »Today I cancelled my Morocco trip that I had planned since November. Again, not of the fear of the virus, but of the fear of getting back if more countries start banning flights etc. Sucks. Money is money, we can always make more, but health and well being is another thing.
You're smart!! My niece's dh is in Sweden right now and is supposedly flying back to the U.S. Saturday. But who knows if that's going to happen. He's a neurologist so I'm not sure if doctors are given special consideration??
Personally, I'm not going anywhere for awhile. Who wants/needs to un/knowingly step into an illness that can put you down for 2-6 weeks, or worse? Not to mention, spread it around some more??6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Ha! I didn't know the other thread was shut down for awhile. I didn't see any problems in it. Some people are in a different place with this--they will come around, sadly.
As of today we, in Italy, are confined to our homes except for buying necessities. All non-essential businesses are closed. We are to follow China's example, since it's working. The streets are deserted. There are lines outside of grocery stores. This is a government mandate for 2 weeks, but I expect it to last a month (or more?). My husband already had cabin fever this morning, it's like being locked up with a kid. I sent him to his office across the street. Sigh. It's going to be a long month.
On the front page of one of our newspapers this morning is a photo of a young man ( a soccer player)in the hospital with a respiratory mask on. He said "I thought I was young, strong, and invincible. I was wrong". He also said " All of a sudden I couldn't breathe".
It astonishes me that're even allowing lines to form, outside of grocery stores. Standing within a line's no different, than standing within a crowd or being within, any other type of gathering.
With the quarantines that Italy's implementing countrywide, I'd have thought that a member via 1 household at a time'd have to choose a time slot of 15 minutes to shop. To keep even necessity shoppers, via coming into contact with each other.
People are require to stay 4 feet (a meter) away from the next person in line. I'll be going grocery shopping in an hour. I'll let you know how it goes.
Speaking of lines, there have been some changes to our polling places for the primary on Tuesday because some of them are in nursing homes (and they are getting rid of all of those). My last polling place was, although my current one is an elementary school. Given this, the likelihood of lines being long seems possible (although maybe everyone will stay home instead of voting). I may go early vote tomorrow instead.
I vote by mail and actually just mailed in my ballot today for Tuesday's primary. I know not everyone is offered that option, but I've been doing it ever since they started offering it here. It's great...no lines, no dealing with people, and you can take your time to research your choices and fill out the ballot.3 -
Has anyone on this thread had their job be directly affected by the pandemic? My boyfriend and I work for a newspaper company in Maine, U.S. The first confirmed case of coronavirus in the state was reported today, and my boyfriend said that we need to make a plan in case we lose our jobs. I think he's being a little overcautious — in print or online, there is always a demand for news, and the majority of the company employees can work from home.
Also, I see many posters here are choosing to cancel international trips. Are people (whose countries are not locked down) also avoiding leaving their immediate geographic areas? I'm supposed to go to a bridal shower in two and a half weeks in Massachusetts, and a wedding in New York on Memorial Day weekend. It's my boyfriend's cousin who is getting married, and he thinks the bride and groom should just cancel everything. Again, I think he's being a tad dramatic, but maybe I'm under-reacting? I'm not going around licking car door handles or anything, but I wasn't planning on becoming a hermit, either.1 -
I'm in the hospitality industry. We're likely to have a VERY bad March and 2nd quarter, at the least. My job is safe, but the entry level employees will be affected.GirlWithCookies wrote: »Has anyone on this thread had their job be directly affected by the pandemic? My boyfriend and I work for a newspaper company in Maine, U.S. The first confirmed case of coronavirus in the state was reported today, and my boyfriend said that we need to make a plan in case we lose our jobs. I think he's being a little overcautious — in print or online, there is always a demand for news, and the majority of the company employees can work from home.
Also, I see many posters here are choosing to cancel international trips. Are people (whose countries are not locked down) also avoiding leaving their immediate geographic areas? I'm supposed to go to a bridal shower in two and a half weeks in Massachusetts, and a wedding in New York on Memorial Day weekend. It's my boyfriend's cousin who is getting married, and he thinks the bride and groom should just cancel everything. Again, I think he's being a tad dramatic, but maybe I'm under-reacting? I'm not going around licking car door handles or anything, but I wasn't planning on becoming a hermit, either.6 -
GirlWithCookies wrote: »Has anyone on this thread had their job be directly affected by the pandemic? My boyfriend and I work for a newspaper company in Maine, U.S. The first confirmed case of coronavirus in the state was reported today, and my boyfriend said that we need to make a plan in case we lose our jobs. I think he's being a little overcautious — in print or online, there is always a demand for news, and the majority of the company employees can work from home.
Also, I see many posters here are choosing to cancel international trips. Are people (whose countries are not locked down) also avoiding leaving their immediate geographic areas? I'm supposed to go to a bridal shower in two and a half weeks in Massachusetts, and a wedding in New York on Memorial Day weekend. It's my boyfriend's cousin who is getting married, and he thinks the bride and groom should just cancel everything. Again, I think he's being a tad dramatic, but maybe I'm under-reacting? I'm not going around licking car door handles or anything, but I wasn't planning on becoming a hermit, either.
My aunt chose to cancel a trip from CA to Baton Rouge, because she didn't want to risk bringing the virus there. The family she was going to visit is elderly and in bad health. Also, her area in CA has a significant number of cases.
My sister is supposed to be flying from Chicago to San Antonio tomorrow, also to visit family. They are worried about bringing the virus there as well, especially since one family member has been on chemo and has had lung surgery. They were also worried that they might have their return flight cancelled, since things are changing so quickly. They would consider driving back, but if many flights are cancelled, would car rentals be available? So yeah, I think they're going to cancel their trip.
We have a mini family reunion planned on May 2-3, and we're not sure how that will turn out. We have some family flying in and some (like us) driving in. We will have to just see what happens.2 -
I’mGirlWithCookies wrote: »Has anyone on this thread had their job be directly affected by the pandemic?
I’m a photographer and even though winter is the slow season for me I’ve seen a significant slowdown. No newborns, no corporate events. I was on track to open a storefront studio this year and I’ve put it on hold for the time being.9
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