Should I go for unhealthy food?
saynow111
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I don't need any more healthy food
I already ate 1400 calorie I need still 600 calorie
Is it good idea
if I take in some unhealthy food to fill those 600 calorie ?
Or should not I do that ?
I already ate 1400 calorie I need still 600 calorie
Is it good idea
if I take in some unhealthy food to fill those 600 calorie ?
Or should not I do that ?
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If it fits your calories and your macros for the day, go for it.5
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Define unhealthy.
Eat what you want.
How are those macros looking?10 -
I'm so happy you decided to increase your calorie goal!
I suggest aiming for a minimum of protein and fat, and then everything else settles where it may. If you have enough of both of those, then yes, eat what you would like to fill up the calories.7 -
Thank you
I happy to listen to this tip from you 😁😁1 -
It makes it much harder to reach your goals, maintain your weight loss, and have a healthy relationship with food if you keep labelling foods as healthy or unhealthy. Your diet should be mainly foods that are high in nutrition that will help you reach your required amounts of fats, proteins and micronutrients. Once those goals are reached for a day there are no brownie points for more greens. I have read the recommendation of having 80% of your diet as this food that is high in nutrition and allowing 20% for treats. You just need to work out how to fit these treats into your diet while maintaining a calorie deficit. Doing it this way makes the diet much more sustainable for most. I say most because some find they can't stop with just a small amount of treats so keep eating. These sorts of personalities do better abstaining from these sorts of foods totally.10
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What do you mean unhealthy food? What are some examples?
Most foods are neither healthy or unhealthy inherently. It depends on your overall diet.5 -
One thing that's unhealthy is taking in substantially too few calories. If at risk of doing that, eating some calorie-dense foods is a good plan. If all the important nutritional goals are already taken care of (especially enough protein, fiber, veggies/fruits), then eating less nutrient-dense foods is fine: There's no extra credit for excess broccoli.
I don't believe in unhealthy/healthy foods much (as long as they're not poison, something I'm allergic to, or that I need to avoid because of health conditions). I believe in healthy/unhealthy overall ways of eating, and encourage others to pursue a healthy one.
Which individual foods are healthiest in any given situation depends on what you're short on, nutritionally, at the time.
So, have a treat.5 -
Good nutrition is important. For good nutrition, you need enough protein, enough healthy fats, enough fiber, enough veggies/fruits for micronutrients. If you can get those, and still fit in your chocolate with sugar in a sensible portion within your calorie goal, you'll be fine.
Even without getting good nutrition, just staying within calorie goal, you can eat sugar and still lose weight. But most people want to be healthy, not just thin: That's where nutrition comes into it.11 -
If you've met your nutritional needs, why would this be a concern. And do you know that chocolate grows on trees? And has lots of anti-oxidants and mood elevating properties? And, if you've gotten sufficient nutrients, why would a little sugar be a problem?
Sugar in an appropriate amount is fine. Chocolate is fine. These things are not unhealthy. The healthy/ unhealthy mindset in regard to food can be unhealthy though. And Sugar itself is a refined carb but chocolate is not. It is not effective to view foods in isolation. Look at the context of a whole diet.7 -
I thought we covered this in a previous post you made?
You really need to take a step back for a minute and set some priorities and goals. Nothing stops you from tackling two or three issues at the same time; but it will not help you to keep mixing up different issues.
I will be more clear.
It is common for people to confuse in their brain their weight management with their food choices.
While the two are SOMEWHAT linked (because you can make food choices that either help or hinder your weight management), the two are NOT the same.
Weight management is conceptually easy: regulate your energy intake and energy expenditure and keep them in balance to maintain your weight. Create an imbalance and you will either lose or gain weight.
BUT IT IS NOT EASY TO IMPLEMENT. It is a dynamic equation and often when you change one side the other one changes too, sometimes just a little bit and other times a lot.
Long term and large interventions (such as a large deficit which is what you were implementing a few days ago, or a persistent surplus which is probably what got you to the point of needing to lose weight) also have secondary effects on hormones and neurotransmitters which makes certain outcomes more likely -- one of the many reasons people often fail to maintain their weight loss
All this to say that weight loss is not easy to implement in that you need to create a persistent deficit, hopefully just the right size so that you can see substantial benefits while triggering the least amount of unwanted side effects.
No need to make it more complicated than that. Just manipulate your calories to achieve your results. This is the bottom of the pyramid. The base. The BIG win.
Then you start thinking about how to best implement this manipulation and how to make choices that give you the most amounts of nutrients.
So you choose foods that you feel are most filling for you for the right amount of calories. While they still make you happy and meet your financial budget and time commitments.
Sorry. I am going on too long and have to cut this short
I'll ask @AnnPT77 to maybe shoot you the protein, fats, and minimum 5, and better yet 8-10 servings of veggies a day 
Bleah. can't go through it and won't have time to edit before time's up. Sorry for anything that doesn't make sense!7 -
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I'll ask @AnnPT77 to maybe shoot you the protein, fats, and minimum 5, and better yet 8-10 servings of veggies a day
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Personally, while losing, daily I like to get, at minimum:
0.6-0.8g protein per pound of healthy goal weight (middle of BMI range for your height, if you don't know a goal)
0.35-0.45g fats per pound, preferring monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats as feasible
5+ (and ideally more like 10+) 80g servings of varied, colorful veggies and fruits for micronutrients and fiber
Just my opinion, but now @PAV8888 is stuck with it, too, because he asked. Or ordered. 4 -
Personally, while losing, daily I like to get, at minimum:
0.6-0.8g protein per pound of healthy goal weight (middle of BMI range for your height, if you don't know a goal)
0.35-0.45g fats per pound, preferring monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats as feasible
5+ (and ideally more like 10+) 80g servings of varied, colorful veggies and fruits for micronutrients and fiber
Just my opinion, but now @PAV8888 is stuck with it, too, because he asked. Or ordered.
You! You! You unceremoniously SNIPPED ME!!!!!
Meah: close enough to my own opinion for hand grenades, government work, and dieting recommendations! 
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Personally, while losing, daily I like to get, at minimum:
0.6-0.8g protein per pound of healthy goal weight (middle of BMI range for your height, if you don't know a goal)
0.35-0.45g fats per pound, preferring monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats as feasible
5+ (and ideally more like 10+) 80g servings of varied, colorful veggies and fruits for micronutrients and fiber
Just my opinion, but now @PAV8888 is stuck with it, too, because he asked. Or ordered.
You! You! You unceremoniously SNIPPED ME!!!!! Meah: close enough to my own opinion for hand grenades, government work, and dieting recommendations!
Oh, no: Verrrrry ceremoniously. 2 -
If you've met your nutritional needs, why would this be a concern. And do you know that chocolate grows on trees? And has lots of anti-oxidants and mood elevating properties? And, if you've gotten sufficient nutrients, why would a little sugar be a problem?
Sugar in an appropriate amount is fine. Chocolate is fine. These things are not unhealthy. The healthy/ unhealthy mindset in regard to food can be unhealthy though. And Sugar itself is a refined carb but chocolate is not. It is not effective to view foods in isolation. Look at the context of a whole diet.
Lol at the disagree! What in my post exactly did you find disagreeable?? Or are you just a hit and run person?5 -
Even before I read down to this post I was going to chime in with Chocolate!
The answer is always chocolate.
It is never cucumber.
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paperpudding wrote: »
Even before I read down to this post I was going to chime in with Chocolate!
The answer is always chocolate.
It is never cucumber.
I'm very much opposed to moralising and categorising food as 'good' and 'bad' but Cucumber and Celery are the exception. So so sooo SOOOO BAD! Awful! Blech!5 -
paperpudding wrote: »
Even before I read down to this post I was going to chime in with Chocolate!
The answer is always chocolate.
It is never cucumber.paperpudding wrote: »
Even before I read down to this post I was going to chime in with Chocolate!
The answer is always chocolate.
It is never cucumber.
I'm very much opposed to moralising and categorising food as 'good' and 'bad' but Cucumber and Celery are the exception. So so sooo SOOOO BAD! Awful! Blech!
WTFlip???
Chocolate and cucumber are the stuff of life! Both, do you hear?!?
When I was a tiny child, my every-single-day bedtime snack was chocolate milk and cucumber, two glorious foods side by side.
ChocolateANDcucumber, ChocolateANDcucumber. You goldarn philistines.
OP: You can eat whatever you like within calories, for nutrition and happiness. Apologies for digressing your thread to argue with these . . . people.
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Your anti-green biases are demoralizing to the universe! Cucumbers and Celery for the win! <goes back to munching on his sea salt chocolate protein bar and no-name candy coated milk chocolate eggs after double checking on the safety of the nicely stacked jars of dill pickles and relish>
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paperpudding wrote: »
Even before I read down to this post I was going to chime in with Chocolate!
The answer is always chocolate.
It is never cucumber.
If I am asking " what should I put in this jar with salt, vinegar, spices, and herbs?", the answer better be cucumbers and not chocolate. But yeah, most other times chocolate is the correct answer.3 -
Your anti-green biases are demoralizing to the universe! Cucumbers and Celery for the win! <goes back to munching on his sea salt chocolate protein bar and no-name candy coated milk chocolate eggs after double checking on the safety of the nicely stacked jars of dill pickles and relish>
*chimes in* black is the new black! Liquorice, good quality one with lots of liquorice root (yes, it’s a tree) instead of annisseedoil, which most types in the UK use.
Cucumber and celery!?! Celery only belongs on the lapel of an 80s tv character’s costume. And maaaybe in the odd pea soup or ragu bolognese.
Chocolate (as I’m at it right now): poor, poor quality almost everywhere, especially in the US (tastes like puke) and the UK (Dairy milk? There’s 24% cocoa in it and eu regulations forbids calling it chocolate)
Basically: liquorice!3 -
If your question is whether junk food will impede your diet progress: no, it won't. You can lose weight eating anything you want, as long as you stay within your calorie quota. Here is my current coronavirus shelter-in-place snack collection, and my weight loss is doing fine.
Now, whether you want to focus on healthiness in addition to weight loss, that is another question. But for weight loss ... it's about the calories.
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I had 700 calories worth of chocolate yesterday. Enjoyed every bite too 😂4
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If your question is whether junk food will impede your diet progress: no, it won't. You can lose weight eating anything you want, as long as you stay within your calorie quota. Here is my current coronavirus shelter-in-place snack collection, and my weight loss is doing fine.
Now, whether you want to focus on healthiness in addition to weight loss, that is another question. But for weight loss ... it's about the calories.
Why wouldn't one want to focus on healthiness in addition to losing weight?3 -
While I do not carefully monitor the percentages if I have a base of 2000 calories to eat I would eat about 1600 nutritional dense foods and 400 calories whatever I want. It is an 80/20 split.3
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paperpudding wrote: »
Even before I read down to this post I was going to chime in with Chocolate!
The answer is always chocolate.
It is never cucumber.paperpudding wrote: »
Even before I read down to this post I was going to chime in with Chocolate!
The answer is always chocolate.
It is never cucumber.
I'm very much opposed to moralising and categorising food as 'good' and 'bad' but Cucumber and Celery are the exception. So so sooo SOOOO BAD! Awful! Blech!WTFlip???
Chocolate and cucumber are the stuff of life! Both, do you hear?!?
When I was a tiny child, my every-single-day bedtime snack was chocolate milk and cucumber, two glorious foods side by side.
ChocolateANDcucumber, ChocolateANDcucumber. You goldarn philistines.
OP: You can eat whatever you like within calories, for nutrition and happiness. Apologies for digressing your thread to argue with these . . . people.
Ye of little imagination: Peanut butter! With chocolate, or cucumber, or celery!1 -
Why don't y'all just give up and link to this thread?
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Celery is delicious and underrated, and so is celeriac.
Cucumber is fine, not very exciting. It's good in some culinary uses and dill pickles are amazing.
But of course neither of them is the answer because they are so low in cals. Chocolate is good and I don't consider it unhealthy at all (unless in crazy amounts, of course).2 -
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The nutritional facts for Cocoa Beans. Of course as it is processed into chocolate, sugar is added. But for those that think that it is not healthy...
I've always wondered why people demonize chocolate as not healthy when it is a seed from a plant with a reasonably good nutritional profile.
Nutrition Facts
Cocoa bean
Amount Per 100 grams
Calories 228
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 14 g 21%
Saturated fat 8 g 40%
Polyunsaturated fat 0.4 g
Monounsaturated fat 4.6 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 21 mg 0%
Potassium 1,524 mg 43%
Total Carbohydrate 58 g 19%
Dietary fiber 33 g 132%
Sugar 1.8 g
Protein 20 g 40%
Caffeine 230 mg
Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 12% Iron 77%
Vitamin D 0% Vitamin B-6 5%
Cobalamin 0% Magnesium 124%
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