Weight hasn’t budged for 2 months
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@yirara as I have said multiple times already, Im going to WEIGH everything as everyone suggested, I'm going to talk to my GP as everyone suggested, and Im going to give it time as everyone suggested. I don't know what you want from me here, I'm taking advice. As far as the water fluctuations goes, it's one thing to be up and down and see a trend downwards. Instead I lost 7 lbs in my first two weeks and have ended every week after at 221-222, for two months now. Excuse me for being frustrated that I can't seem to break this considering the massive changes I've made in my life. Someone else in this thread had a similar difficulty to me, which was encouraging. She said it's just took a really long time for weight to drop off. Another person brought up that having a period caused her to lose weight differently, where the weight stuck for 8 weeks and then suddenly fell off. I came here for a variety of opinions, so I could figure out which things I've already done and what possibilities could be left, and I'm taking the advice given.6
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Also @yirara, if you didn't catch it the first time, no, my body is not working properly. Again, I have PCOS and one of the symptoms is weight gain and difficulty in losing weight. It's already hard enough dealing with the other symptoms (ever had a cyst the size of an orange in your ovaries? It hurts. Bad.) But the amount of work I have to put into losing weight is why the only time I've ever lost weight was near-anorexia. I'm trying to do this the healthy way, I don't need you to ask if my brain is working or tell me I'm just too impatient.4
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Don't take it personally, I've seen a tendency on MFP to repeat already given advice, even when the message has already been heard by the TS. It just comes from having seen lots of people making the same mistakes (and not necessarily listening to the advice given), they mean well11
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Thank you @Lietchi. I really do appreciate everyone in this thread coming in with advice and being supportive. I'm not looking for some magical solution to this, I really want to change my weight and I'm willing to try things. It just feels like some folks are just grinding in that I'm miscalculating my food to some extreme or that I'm just too impatient. :-(3
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Measuring cups and spoons are, themselves, unreliable, even if you level them. Scales are the way to go!
Consider the following: https://www.dontwasteyourmoney.com/measuring-spoons-test and https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/voraciously/wp/2019/03/04/you-cant-always-trust-measuring-cups-but-heres-what-you-can-do-about-it/
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HeidiCooksSupper wrote: »Measuring cups and spoons are, themselves, unreliable, even if you level them. Scales are the way to go!
Consider the following: https://www.dontwasteyourmoney.com/measuring-spoons-test and https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/voraciously/wp/2019/03/04/you-cant-always-trust-measuring-cups-but-heres-what-you-can-do-about-it/
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@NatashaLP2014 seems to have been right, I think the low carb threw off my monthly that I don’t usually get (on bc implant so I only get it a few times every couple years) and I noticed waking up feeling lighter a couple days ago, weight went down to 219 from 222.4 👍 I think the noom diet had too many carbs and fruit sugars for me, and switching to low carb just messed with my hormones the first couple weeks due to PCOS. Thank you everyone who gave me advice, going to keep doing what I’m doing and be aware that my hormones may be a lil different than I’m used to 🙌🏻4
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@RidingTowardEverywhere If you are sure you're weighing everything and being completely honest with yourself, I would go back to the doctor (like you're planning). With PCOS, you have a tougher journey than most, and a lot of the standard mantras and things that worked for other people simply won't cut it for you.
You clearly have been trying, so I just wanted to leave you a comment to say well done, because all of your effort deserves to be acknowledged. It's frustrating when there is no direct link between how much we try and what the scales say, but the important thing is not to get frustrated and start sabotaging yourself. Carry on with the good habits whilst you're waiting to see your doctor, and then hopefully when you get an appointment, you can make a different plan and tweak what you're doing so your body better responds to all that trying.
Today might not be your day, but your day will come. Rooting for you.2 -
@thelastnightingale thank you so much, supportive words are really good to hear. Going to set something up with my gp for sure! PCOS ain’t easy but I think that the low carb is going to be good. At the very least I’m controlling my calories and sugars and I’ll be more prepped for any healthy changes suggested by the doc.
Also not sure why people are disagreeing with you over leaving a supportive comment 🙄 thanks again for the kind words, I do appreciate it.
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@RidingTowardEverywhere Most people who continue to put weight on after 'doing everything right' are kidding themselves one way or another, and I think challenging that belief is bound to ruffle a few feathers. But in your case, where you have been diagnosed with a medical condition that is known to affect weight management, it makes absolute sense that you're not always going to be able to get to where you're going under your own steam. Sometimes things aren't going to work the way you expect and that doesn't mean you're lying to anyone, it just means you need to bring in the doctor to decipher what's going on with your body. Your body doesn't behave by the same rules as everyone else's, and advice from someone who isn't living with PCOS isn't necessarily going to be relevant to you.
Not everyone will be able to relate to your journey, given not everyone has the same condition you have, and that's bound to make it harder to understand. I doubt any of the negativity is meant in bad faith. Most people here are trying to help, but are limited to what they know from personal experience.
Keep trying, keep making healthy choices - they might not be doing all you want, but they're still better for you than the bad choices - and stay positive. Depending on your relationship with your GP and how much success they've had in managing your condition so far, you might need to push for a referral to a specialist who might have more luck. Don't be afraid to do that if you think it would be helpful - you might find it useful to write down some bullet points before your appointment, so you don't get flustered or miss something out, and can direct the GP into giving you the best advice possible. It can get quite emotional talking about weight, and therefore it can be quite easy to forget to say something, so prepping some details can help.
And if anyone disagrees with this post too, don't worry, I'll wear it as a badge of honour. Totally worth it to acknowledge I can see you've given this your all, and to tell you that I have complete confidence you're not going to give up.1 -
Bodies are weird and frustrating sometimes. We can be doing everything correctly and they just decide to secretly recalibrate and annoy us. It happened to me. I cried and got frustrated and then it restarted and I’ve been grand ever since. I’m sorry you’re going through this. It can be very deflating and it feels like you’re being let down by your own body. Just keep on keeping on. Do what you need to do to make sure everything is on the right track and then know that you are still heading he right way and moving forward despite feeling like you’re stationary atm. Stay strong.2
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@thelastnightingale thank you so much again. Like I said previously, if we look back at my history, the only time weight loss has really gone “right” for me was the year I had a near-eating disorder as a teen. I ate undresssed salads only, lunch and dinner, and occasionally a piece of chicken. After that, I tried regular CICO a few times, I tried low calorie density, I tried vegan for a year, then raw vegan another half year, I tried intense workouts (did build muscle! Never got under 200 lbs) I tried walking miles everyday, the list goes on. I rejected low carb because my mom forcibly put me on it as a little kid (she was on south beach herself and I was a normal weight at 8 years old) and would only feed my diabetic brother and I fried eggs, got real sick of it. So I never wanted to do that again!
That said, when I look back at that pattern, the one time I did lose weight (not in any healthy way mind you) it was accidentally low carb. Last year my doc suggested low carb too so I think it’ll work. Going to keep trying hard on this one, keep my calories and macros in mind :-)3 -
@Hanibanani2020 thank you! Congrats for making it through as well! Going to keep everyone’s stories in mind when I feel like giving up 🙏🏻1
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Weighing is only part of the logging equation, the other is finding the correct database entry. All whole foods should be entered by finding the USDA entry originally imported by MFP. All others are user created and can be wrong. Other foods should be entered according to the nutrition info on the package. When you enter it, enter the brand name and double check the info with the package in hand.
The next part of this is to enter it in the same format (if you weighed it, you should enter the weight). You can either find the 1 gram weight entry and enter your food by the number of grams you weighed or the 100 gram weight and enter your food as a percentage.
An example: when I eat an avocado. 1) I take out the pit and weigh the fruit, make a note of the weight 2) I eat it right out of the peel 3) I weigh the peel and subtract from the original weight and enter that. I prefer using the 1 gram entry. If I was adding the avocado to something I would put a dish on the scale, tare, scoop out the edible part and weigh that
This is what you see when you search for a USDA entry in your diary. Look for the series of numbers in parentheses. The dropdown box for weight will give you several options including 1 gram and 100 grams. This entry would be 2.21 if I used 100 grams.
The second screenshot is what I see when searching for a brand name product. I still find the 1 gram entry in the dropdown and enter the weight in grams
Hope this clears up the confusion about how to enter weighed items.
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Maybe you can have your doctor order some thyroid blood tests? that can affect your weight loss if it is sluggish0
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JackieFernandez87 wrote: »Maybe you can have your doctor order some thyroid blood tests? that can affect your weight loss if it is sluggish
We already know that TO has a condition that slows down BMR. Thyroid conditions though don't really, at least not substantially. Research has shows it's a max of 4% of NEAT, which would be 80 calories per day for a person with a NEAT of 2000.2 -
JackieFernandez87 wrote: »Maybe you can have your doctor order some thyroid blood tests? that can affect your weight loss if it is sluggish
The issue that I've experienced with thyroid is not that it slows down my calorie burn to be noticeable, but that it does affect my hunger levels and will power. If I'm too high in TSH, I struggle to meet my calorie goals and not go over; if I'm properly medicated, I have a much easier time sticking to my deficit.1 -
So I spoke to my GP this morning, and everything makes sense again, gp specializes in PCOS, here what she said:
1. Low carb is the right track. How do I know? Because I got a period. My oblivious self figured it was my bc implant, but like doctor said, even though it’s real fun to not get one, it’s a sign of being unhealthy. Low carb is beginning to regulate this so something in my body is like “okay you’re not f****** dying now, guess you can start to think about babies” no thanks :-( was fun while it lasted.
2. If my insulin is high, I gain weight. Does not matter the deficit. I took pics of my meals throughout the day and she agreed it wasn’t very much food considering my rate of loss. I’m not eating the right foods (although They’re way better than it was on noom, damn fruit sugars). She suggested lowering my carbs to 20%, upping protein to 40% and lowering fat to 40%. Can do 👍 apparently the high protein also helps androgen levels.
3. I’m basically a big ol’ bag of inflammation. This would explain why I feel like my guts feel like party ballon animals most of the day. Add in more anti-inflammatory foods like kale, pomegranate, figs, garlic. Luckily I’m Armenian and this is all I want to eat anyway.
4. She sees a lot of her patients do a plateau-drop-plateau-drop form of loss vs ups and downs or steady decline. If I plateau a couple weeks, just focus on lean proteins, dark veggies, and she even suggested anti-inflammatory yoga to manage symptoms. Luckily I just bought a yoga mat.
Anyway, I feel a hell of a lot better now. I’m a dingus for just acting like I get the normal road out of this, that has NEVER worked for me. Apparently PCOS people are three times as likely to form an eating disorder, and considering my past, I’d agree. If you’re reading this mess of a thread, and you’re going through the same thing, I hope you find this message and it helps ya. Call your doctor, don’t be like me -_-3
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