Gained a pound in a month... while eating below TDEE?
stargirlhorse
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SO as the title said yes I gained a pound and no, I'm not happy about it. I am now 122lb when I was 121 a month ago today (June 2, 2020). But this really doesn't make sense since I've been eating 1200-1410 calories per day. I don't want this pound, I'm trying to lose weight!
I'm a 5'5.5, 18-year-old Asian.
I posted a thread before and people were like "yOu'Re sKinNy aNd dOnT nEeD tO lOsE wEiGhT."
This tiktok adequately describes how I feel. especially when she says you're never allowed to complain because you're already "skinny." People suggested recomposition and to read this so you want a nice stomach thread and I've been doing my squats, lunges, and ab exercises (as I said in the original thread, I literally CANNOT do a push-up. I can barely do one with *kitten* form on my knees, but I can somehow hold a high plank.)
I ended up getting a job at a restaurant so I upped my calorie intake to 1,410 (losing .5lb/week per the MFP formula). When calculated at sedentary, the lowest number any calorie calculator ran was 1,596 to maintain weight. I have been accurately measuring my food and drinking 96 oz of water per day. So why did this pound come back? Previously I had been stalled at 121 until at least June 17 when I posted my original thread. I don't want this weight. I want to be 115 (which is a healthy weight as according to the CDC).
If anything, I should be LOSING weight but I'm not...
I'm a 5'5.5, 18-year-old Asian.
I posted a thread before and people were like "yOu'Re sKinNy aNd dOnT nEeD tO lOsE wEiGhT."
This tiktok adequately describes how I feel. especially when she says you're never allowed to complain because you're already "skinny." People suggested recomposition and to read this so you want a nice stomach thread and I've been doing my squats, lunges, and ab exercises (as I said in the original thread, I literally CANNOT do a push-up. I can barely do one with *kitten* form on my knees, but I can somehow hold a high plank.)
I ended up getting a job at a restaurant so I upped my calorie intake to 1,410 (losing .5lb/week per the MFP formula). When calculated at sedentary, the lowest number any calorie calculator ran was 1,596 to maintain weight. I have been accurately measuring my food and drinking 96 oz of water per day. So why did this pound come back? Previously I had been stalled at 121 until at least June 17 when I posted my original thread. I don't want this weight. I want to be 115 (which is a healthy weight as according to the CDC).
If anything, I should be LOSING weight but I'm not...
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Also, does this tiktok have any truth? If I can get a smaller waist by lying on the ground for 5mins/day... I'm all in.2
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It's a pound, it could be any number of things. It could be related to your increased workouts, more time on the feet with your new job, where you're at in your cycle, some extra food in your body, increased humidity (if you're in a part of the world where summer has hit). Stressing out over a pound is counter-productive.
You're very close to your goal so it's going to require patience and consistency. There are probably going to be times when the scale goes up and you can't get thrown by that.17 -
Same girl, Im also 18,5'5, Asian (Pakistan) and my goal is 120, and right now I'm at 138lb. It honestly kills me when the weight goes up even by half a pound. A veryyyyy small side of me knows it is probably because of too much salt the day before or water retention, but it still KILLS me, no joke. I know i have a very toxic mindset but the mind does what it does. How did you achieve your goal?5
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janejellyroll wrote: »(cut)
You're very close to your goal so it's going to require patience and consistency. There are probably going to be times when the scale goes up and you can't get thrown by that.
How much going up is normal?
andmeharmahshahid wrote: »Same girl, Im also 18,5'5, Asian (Pakistan) and my goal is 120, and right now I'm at 138lb. It honestly kills me when the weight goes up even by half a pound. A veryyyyy small side of me knows it is probably because of too much salt the day before or water retention, but it still KILLS me, no joke. I know i have a very toxic mindset but the mind does what it does. How did you achieve your goal?
Welcome to the club haha. Do you happen to know how much water our bodies retain?1 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »(cut)
You're very close to your goal so it's going to require patience and consistency. There are probably going to be times when the scale goes up and you can't get thrown by that.
How much going up is normal?
andmeharmahshahid wrote: »Same girl, Im also 18,5'5, Asian (Pakistan) and my goal is 120, and right now I'm at 138lb. It honestly kills me when the weight goes up even by half a pound. A veryyyyy small side of me knows it is probably because of too much salt the day before or water retention, but it still KILLS me, no joke. I know i have a very toxic mindset but the mind does what it does. How did you achieve your goal?
Welcome to the club haha. Do you happen to know how much water our bodies retain?
I have no idea, but from my personal experience, around one or even two pounds3 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »(cut)
You're very close to your goal so it's going to require patience and consistency. There are probably going to be times when the scale goes up and you can't get thrown by that.
How much going up is normal?
andmeharmahshahid wrote: »Same girl, Im also 18,5'5, Asian (Pakistan) and my goal is 120, and right now I'm at 138lb. It honestly kills me when the weight goes up even by half a pound. A veryyyyy small side of me knows it is probably because of too much salt the day before or water retention, but it still KILLS me, no joke. I know i have a very toxic mindset but the mind does what it does. How did you achieve your goal?
Welcome to the club haha. Do you happen to know how much water our bodies retain?
There is no one answer to what is "normal." My weight trends around 110 average, but I will swing up between 108 and 115 during the month. I know that's normal for me because I've been observing the trend for quite a while.13 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »
How much going up is normal?
personally, I've seen my weight fluctuate as much as 6-7lbs day to day depending on time of month, what I ate the day before and... uh.. constipation... or a combination of all 3... and I'm roughly 5'3 and 126lbs atm... if you're aiming for a small deficit a weight spike on the day of weighing yourself easily covers up any potential weight/fat loss, so I wouldn't worry too much about just one weigh in, I'd look at long term trends
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Is it possible that some of this weight is loose skin from weight loss?
In January I was somewhere like 136, so I lost about 14 pounds.1 -
^^ and if so, how do I reduce that (non-surgically)1
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I highly doubt you have loose skin from weightloss from being barely overweight and if so it would be very minimal. Either you’re retaining fluid (very likely and nothing to worry about) or you’re not weighing your food and eating more than you think. Either way your reaction to one lb of weight gain is a little concerning since you’re within normal bmi. Have you considered speaking to a gp to have them assess you and workout a plan?10
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Next month you will have lost a pound. Yay!1
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stargirlhorse wrote: »Is it possible that some of this weight is loose skin from weight loss?
In January I was somewhere like 136, so I lost about 14 pounds.
No. Think about it: Let's say you do have loose skin (which I agree is doubtful, from that small a weight loss at your age).
It isn't new skin, so it's been part of your weight all along. Loose skin happens when we lose fat, so the skin gets wrinkly or droopy, because the fat isn't keeping it filled out. It isn't skin that was mysteriously added on. It's skin we had all along, that we don't want/need anymore. And it's very likely to shrink on its own (especially at age 18) . . . it just takes time.16 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »(cut)
You're very close to your goal so it's going to require patience and consistency. There are probably going to be times when the scale goes up and you can't get thrown by that.
How much going up is normal?
andmeharmahshahid wrote: »Same girl, Im also 18,5'5, Asian (Pakistan) and my goal is 120, and right now I'm at 138lb. It honestly kills me when the weight goes up even by half a pound. A veryyyyy small side of me knows it is probably because of too much salt the day before or water retention, but it still KILLS me, no joke. I know i have a very toxic mindset but the mind does what it does. How did you achieve your goal?
Welcome to the club haha. Do you happen to know how much water our bodies retain?
IIRC, a normal healthy body is around 70% water, so it can be pretty significant - not that all of that is a candidate to fluctuate, but at 120 pounds, that's 84 pounds of water, so if you get a 10% fluctuation of that, it could be more than 8 pounds. That's extreme, but not impossible.
I'm a little heavier than you (129 this morning), but routinely see fluctuations of more than two pounds from one day to the next (or the 2nd Tuesday of one month to the 2nd Tuesday of the next ). Under unusual circumstances, I've seen up to 6 pounds in a day or two, and that's without the hormonal fluctuations in the picture, that will apply to younger women. (I'm post-menopausal.) I've seen women here - who are not obese - report 6-8 pound hormonal fluctuations across a typical month.
Healthy bodies fluctuate in water weight. It's just a fact. Frankly, I think that - difficult though it may be - it's more profitable to work on managing one's emotional reactions to it, than it is to try to game it.11 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »Is it possible that some of this weight is loose skin from weight loss?
In January I was somewhere like 136, so I lost about 14 pounds.
Loose skin is skin you already had when you were heavier. It doesn't weigh more now just because it's loose.9 -
Wouldn’t that suck if a side effect of weightloss was extra skin just growing to replace fat so your body always weighed the same no matter what you lost? Good idea for a book.. The Skin that wouldn’t quit.15
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OP
A pound is nothing so try and stop stressing. It’s within normal fluctuations.
Carry on doing what you’re doing. Weight loss when it’s the last few pounds can be frustratingly slow. I’m crawling at a pace of a quarter of a pound a week.8 -
my weight goes up and down 5lbs just throughout the day... 1lb is a bottle of water8
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Sounds like water weight to me. I can fluctuate 1-4 lbs a week, especially when its hot out, I tend to retain. Yo have a better idea of how your body fluctuates, you shuld try weighing in every day for 2 weeks and writing it down. Youll see that you can very 1-2 lbs from before bed to the morning even.4
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Every time someone in these forums asks a question like this, someone (or many someones) always comes in to say "Your're eating more than you think." I'm going to be one of those people, but don't just tune me out.
The truth is, you can have the most accurate scale on planet Earth, and you could use that scale to weigh every atom of food that you eat ... and STILL be eating more calories than you think. How is that possible? Let me answer that question with a question.
How many calories are in an 85g pork chop?
When I enter that into myfitnesspal, I get a range of possibilities from 110 calories up to 262 with lots of numbers in between. Which is correct? Well, you could refine your search by adding modifiers, but even then you'll often end up with a range of possibilities. When that happens, you'll have to guess which one to use.
So, how do you know if you guessed right? Simple. The scale will tell you.
What's the scale telling you?1 -
You don't need to guess, just look at different sources of information outside of MFP.3
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A couple more comments:
Fat loss and weight loss are related, but not the same thing. Did you know that stress is one thing that can increase water retention?
Estimated TDEE is not necessarily true TDEE, and estimated/logged intake and activity is not necessarily true intake and activity, so calculated deficit is not necessarily true deficit.
Do you use a weight trending app**? If so, what does the trend say?
** Happy Scale for Apple iOS, Libra for Android, Trendweight with a free Fitbit account (don't need a device), Weightgrapher, others. Not a crystal ball or a source of magical insights, but can be a help when losing very slowly, as I'd suggest you should be at your current weight.6 -
Hmm, yeah. It might be stress since I'm preparing to go away to college soon.
I don't have a weight trending app because I hate stepping on the scale, I'm always afraid I'm going to gain another pound. I assume it was water since yesterday I was back to 121. But on the downside, I haven't lost any weight in a month.
I have also ruled out that it's muscle. My body looks the same from the side (~very~ scientific, I know) but also, my waist hasn't shrunk. However, I've been doing ab exercises- at least 30 crunches, a 1-minute plank, and 20 leg lifts each day. I've expanded into doing that AND MadFit's senorita ab work out (so basically a 3 min ab workout). My thighs are still jiggly as hell and my arms look like bat wings when I put them straight out. I've also been doing 5 knee push-ups because that's all I can do (and get up from).0 -
Every time someone in these forums asks a question like this, someone (or many someones) always comes in to say "Your're eating more than you think." I'm going to be one of those people, but don't just tune me out.
The truth is, you can have the most accurate scale on planet Earth, and you could use that scale to weigh every atom of food that you eat ... and STILL be eating more calories than you think. How is that possible? Let me answer that question with a question.
How many calories are in an 85g pork chop?
When I enter that into myfitnesspal, I get a range of possibilities from 110 calories up to 262 with lots of numbers in between. Which is correct? Well, you could refine your search by adding modifiers, but even then you'll often end up with a range of possibilities. When that happens, you'll have to guess which one to use.
So, how do you know if you guessed right? Simple. The scale will tell you.
What's the scale telling you?
I'm entering/correcting literally everything I eat. Unless large companies are literally breaking the law, then everything is correct.
But again, I'm still not losing weight. It's been a month (and yes I'll bring this up with my doctor at the next appointment)0 -
Have you considered getting a professional personal trainer with a degree in nutrition to help you out?1
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Hanibanani2020 wrote: »Have you considered getting a professional personal trainer with a degree in nutrition to help you out?
Kinda broke right now (or well, planning to be broke in August because of college), but I have a friend who's thinking of getting a PT license. She's given me some ab exercises to do, which I do.
I also ran my measurements today and I'm 27-28% body fat. Great... But strength training hasn't been working.
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stargirlhorse wrote: »Hanibanani2020 wrote: »Have you considered getting a professional personal trainer with a degree in nutrition to help you out?
Kinda broke right now (or well, planning to be broke in August because of college), but I have a friend who's thinking of getting a PT license. She's given me some ab exercises to do, which I do.
I also ran my measurements today and I'm 27-28% body fat. Great... But strength training hasn't been working.
You are only like 5lbs away from being underweight. Do you think that little bit will make a difference? I think you will be way more happy with adding strength training/gaining muscle vs losing to be underweight.11 -
The Navy calculators are now giving me around 20%- three different calculators, two giving me 20 and one giving me 20.3.0
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stargirlhorse wrote: »Hmm, yeah. It might be stress since I'm preparing to go away to college soon.
I don't have a weight trending app because I hate stepping on the scale, I'm always afraid I'm going to gain another pound. I assume it was water since yesterday I was back to 121. But on the downside, I haven't lost any weight in a month.
I have also ruled out that it's muscle. My body looks the same from the side (~very~ scientific, I know) but also, my waist hasn't shrunk. However, I've been doing ab exercises- at least 30 crunches, a 1-minute plank, and 20 leg lifts each day. I've expanded into doing that AND MadFit's senorita ab work out (so basically a 3 min ab workout). My thighs are still jiggly as hell and my arms look like bat wings when I put them straight out. I've also been doing 5 knee push-ups because that's all I can do (and get up from).
I know it may sound a bit ironic, but the weight-trending app can actually make you feel better about stepping on the scale because it shows you how normal those fluctuations are. As others have mentioned, the one-pound-freakout is a bit concerning.
While you can’t spot reduce, ab exercises can help build muscle over time, which losing fat can help reveal. But your body may not lose fat around your mid-section initially. And I don’t think that’s enough intense exercise to build muscle or burn fat just yet. And any exercise is better than none. Keep at it, and you’ll build on your current strength and stamina.5 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »Hmm, yeah. It might be stress since I'm preparing to go away to college soon.
I don't have a weight trending app because I hate stepping on the scale, I'm always afraid I'm going to gain another pound. I assume it was water since yesterday I was back to 121. But on the downside, I haven't lost any weight in a month.
I have also ruled out that it's muscle. My body looks the same from the side (~very~ scientific, I know) but also, my waist hasn't shrunk. However, I've been doing ab exercises- at least 30 crunches, a 1-minute plank, and 20 leg lifts each day. I've expanded into doing that AND MadFit's senorita ab work out (so basically a 3 min ab workout). My thighs are still jiggly as hell and my arms look like bat wings when I put them straight out. I've also been doing 5 knee push-ups because that's all I can do (and get up from).
I know it may sound a bit ironic, but the weight-trending app can actually make you feel better about stepping on the scale because it shows you how normal those fluctuations are. As others have mentioned, the one-pound-freakout is a bit concerning.
While you can’t spot reduce, ab exercises can help build muscle over time, which losing fat can help reveal. But your body may not lose fat around your mid-section initially. And I don’t think that’s enough intense exercise to build muscle or burn fat just yet. And any exercise is better than none. Keep at it, and you’ll build on your current strength and stamina.
But I’ve been doing these ab exercises since at least March, I want to say even since February (and I think I remember doing them late February on vacation, but only 25 crunches and 15 leg lifts). I haven’t seen any results. My stomach is just as giant as it was the day before or even the month before. I know because I’m Asian, I tend to get belly fat. It sucks but it’s just my stupid genetics.
BUT I have never seen an Asian with as much belly fat as I do. I’ve never seen an Asian with a protruding stomach like mine. I look like a pregnant teenager and that is NOT a look I want for college because everyone will think I’m a hoe. I REFUSE to attend college looking like this and will invest in waist trainers if I have to. Why won’t this belly fat go away? There’s no logical reason why it should still be here! Models like Ming Xi are also Asian and prove that nearly-flat stomachs are possible (yes I’m aware that females have uteruses. I took health). But why won’t mine look like hers? Or literally any of the ladies when you google “asian woman body from side” ?? And why do I have two chins?!2 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »Hmm, yeah. It might be stress since I'm preparing to go away to college soon.
I don't have a weight trending app because I hate stepping on the scale, I'm always afraid I'm going to gain another pound. I assume it was water since yesterday I was back to 121. But on the downside, I haven't lost any weight in a month.
I have also ruled out that it's muscle. My body looks the same from the side (~very~ scientific, I know) but also, my waist hasn't shrunk. However, I've been doing ab exercises- at least 30 crunches, a 1-minute plank, and 20 leg lifts each day. I've expanded into doing that AND MadFit's senorita ab work out (so basically a 3 min ab workout). My thighs are still jiggly as hell and my arms look like bat wings when I put them straight out. I've also been doing 5 knee push-ups because that's all I can do (and get up from).
Sadly, muscle takes months to years to gain in any material amount, so you're right, it's not muscle. Under perfect conditions, a very good result for a woman would be a quarter pound of additional muscle mass per week (possibly twice that, if male). Perfect conditions include a well-designed progressive strength training program faithfully performed, good nutrition (especially adequate protein), relative youth, and a calorie surplus. You have the youth part, but not the good progressive strength program (arguably the most important element), you're shooting for a deficit (not a surplus), and I have no idea how good your nutrition is. I'm not saying you couldn't see some muscle mass gain, but it would be less than a quarter pound a week.
Also, everyone, even very fit people, have some underarm tissue that moves when they hold their arms straight out. Relaxed triceps do that, with gravity. I'm not saying you have zero arm fat or whatever, but I'd bet that some of what you're calling "bat wings" is perfectly good muscle. For every single woman in real life I've discussed this with (there have been quite a few), part of what she was calling "bat wings" or some other ugly name was actually triceps muscles. (This is one of my pet peeves, TBH). Triceps are slack/mobile when relaxed, and only tighten up when they contract to do work. When you hold your arm out straight, they're relaxed.
Hold your arm out horizontally, then grab a handful of the hang-y bit with the opposite hand, grabbing up as close as you can get to the upper arm bone with your fingertips. Hold on.
Next, while continuing to hold on with the opposite hand, take the extended arm and flex it like you're a bodybuilder. Get the upper arm at an angle above your shoulder, curl the lower part of the arm down toward your shoulder, curl the wrist downward/inward, and just generally work as hard as you can by positioning and intention to tighten up every bit of your arm that you can, especially that upper arm. (Basically, it's the position in my profile photo, but with the elbow up so the upper arm is raised maybe a 45-degree angle above horizontal, and tightened. In my photo, the triceps muscles aren't really engaged.)
Anything that you have grabbed with the opposite hand, that you feel tighten up or get firmer when you do the flexing, is muscle, not fat or loose skin. It's just that when that muscle is relaxed, especially with the arm outstretched, gravity makes it hang a bit. (If it didn't, how would it contract to do work?) Any large/long muscle in your body can act like this, such as hamstrings. The triceps just happen to be located in an area where its easy to see them and obsess about it. Sometimes women misidentify some hamstrings as fat, too - in the seated, relaxed position, part of the upper thigh squishing out horizontally is just relaxed hamstrings. If one raises the leg while lying done, but keeping the hamstrings relaxed, they'll wobble, too.)
Even quite fit women (and men) can typically make the upper arm area wobble, if they hold it in the right position with triceps relaxed.12
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