Weight Watchers fed up
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Count calories. Being in a calorie deficit is needed to lose weight.
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WW points are bogus now anyway. Punitive point values for food they deem "unhealthy." I remember a years ago a WW brand yogurt was half the points of my favorite brand, just because there was a bit less sugar. Half the points for something like a 10-20 calorie difference.
WW keeps re-inventing themselves to sell their product year after year. I think that WW of old was more helpful than the version they have out now.12 -
I did WW in the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, and the 2000s. Yes, each generation of it worked each time. And it became less prescriptive yet more complicated over time. Come on over to the CICO (calories in/calories out) side. It's very simple. Eat well but control your calories. Figure out a way to eat that is good for you. If you (and I) could have done that automatically, we wouldn't be 100+ pounds overweight.
For me, the most important thing is the food diary and doing daily weighing to keep me honest. I'm old and retired so things that do daily swings like hormones and work schedules don't really affect me so daily weighing works well. I record/report my weight in a repeating thread you can find by searching "Just Give Me 10 Days" in the community page. The current round is Round 114.
My diary is open and I generally accept friends, especially if you give a little explanatory message.
Another advantage, this site is free and premium membership is a heckofalot cheaper than WW.8 -
I started on weight watchers and found it really helpful to figure out serving sizes and get me on track, but once I figured out what I was doing and what a portion actually was I ditched it cos the points system was just ridiculous and I found it unhealthy (lots of focus on nutrient poor or gimmick food to fill you up), and expensive. Though that could partly have been because I'm a seriously fussy eater and have allergies and couldn't/wouldn't eat much of the lower point foods. I found cambridge (expensive, but tasty) much more useful for fast weight loss for special events, getting over plateaus and resetting my eating when I crept back into bad ways. I now just do protein shakes and lots of eggs, low carb pancakes, veg fritters, anything that's easy to make, few ingredients but are real food and pay attention to calories and what i'm actually eating.
Going low carb has let me find some healthier versions of my fave foods, so even if i'm not losing weight, I am at least feeding my body stuff it actually needs rather than junk.
I do think it takes quite a while to find a diet (in the traditional sense of the word, not the lose weight sense) that suits our bodies and life... Keep fiddling you'll find something that works really well for you.1 -
My mother does very well on both WW and Slimming World as she need the weekly weigh-in to keep her going. Also she is not the slightest bit interested in calorie counting when I have suggested it as she sees it as being too complicated and fiddly.
She buys their products too and she believes this is the right thing to do although own brand versions of almost the same thing are available. But all that said, she can afford it, so why not I guess, but £3 for a ready meal is not how I would spend my cash.
Me... the idea of being publicly weighed fills me with horror and the thought of being "told off" or asked to go through my food diary with someone because I have not lost weight since the last weigh-in fills me with double horror.
Also for me, "free foods" would be a disaster as I love my veg and easily eat hundreds and hundreds of calories worth so they do have to be factored in. I also cook most of my food from scratch and juggling a bit more of this and a bit less of that, based on their calories, allows me to make the best of my calorie allowance.
So each to their own, that's my view,7 -
I will be the odd one here. I have been using weight watchers for about two weeks now and lost a healthy amount of weight. I joined to be motivated to eat better foods. It's encouraging me to eat healthier things such as veggies, fruits, and lean meats. I still eat a lot of the foods I did previously, just more in moderation. For instance, I still have a good treat (yes even ice cream) every day. I do not plan on doing weight watchers forever and plan to come back to calorie counting, but first I want to use it to motivate me to eat better foods.6
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I was somewhat successful on WW over 10 years ago. But all of the changes they've made over the last few years did not work for me. I think my biggest issue with WW is that I'm also trying to get all "fake" food out of my life and WW is so focused on the calories that every recipe is low fat this and no fat that. When you remove the fat, it's sugar that's added to make it taste somewhat like the real thing. I've been following a modified keto diet (mainly limiting bread, pasta, rice, etc) and MFP allow me to keep track of my carbs. So I use the "real" butter, sour cream, mayo, etc. and I'm not putting chemicals in my body. I feel so much better.5
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AlannaWulf wrote: »I will be the odd one here. I have been using weight watchers for about two weeks now and lost a healthy amount of weight. I joined to be motivated to eat better foods. It's encouraging me to eat healthier things such as veggies, fruits, and lean meats. I still eat a lot of the foods I did previously, just more in moderation. For instance, I still have a good treat (yes even ice cream) every day. I do not plan on doing weight watchers forever and plan to come back to calorie counting, but first I want to use it to motivate me to eat better foods.
It always amuses me that someone clicks "disagree" on a post about ones own personal experience. I think WW's lifestyle approach is really helpful for some folks. It was for me when I needed to look at food intake from a different vantage point. FWIW, I think you have a good approach - use what works for *you*9 -
I just canceled my ww after being on here for a month. Id love to be friends and motivate each other.3
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AlannaWulf wrote: »I will be the odd one here. I have been using weight watchers for about two weeks now and lost a healthy amount of weight. I joined to be motivated to eat better foods. It's encouraging me to eat healthier things such as veggies, fruits, and lean meats. I still eat a lot of the foods I did previously, just more in moderation. For instance, I still have a good treat (yes even ice cream) every day. I do not plan on doing weight watchers forever and plan to come back to calorie counting, but first I want to use it to motivate me to eat better foods.
It always amuses me that someone clicks "disagree" on a post about ones own personal experience. I think WW's lifestyle approach is really helpful for some folks. It was for me when I needed to look at food intake from a different vantage point. FWIW, I think you have a good approach - use what works for *you*
Yeah, it is kinda funny that people "disagree" with my personal experience. Lol, it doesn't change what I'm going to do and I hope they found what works for them!9 -
I’ve just made the same decision... switching over to here after a year of overall not losing any weight. In fact, I’m about 5lbs heavier than last year. I just kept losing and gaining the same few pounds over and over again. I eat (reasonably) well and run 4 times a week. I think I wasn’t eating enough on ww... doing a week of double tracking and I’ve stuck to my 1390 on mfp every day, but that has been over points every single day, sometimes quite substantially... and yet I’ve lost weight this week.3
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Weight loss is very basic and non complicated. CICO, that’s it! No points, NOTHING is “free”, just weigh accurately and enter the calories accurately (many mfp entries are wrong, so CHECK!), and if you consume fewer calories than you burn, you lose weight. And it doesn’t cost you a bunch of money better spent elsewhere.
As for weigh ins, I weigh in weekly on Saturday mornings and have also started weekly measurements to check my body fat percentage. I don’t need a gimmick to keep me doing so. I’m dedicated to my goals and THAT is my motivation to not miss weigh ins and measurements.3 -
Have 'real' fruit. An apple or pear for example. You'll get more food for those 70 cals.So I'm on Weight Watchers I'm just coming back to trying to lose over 100lbs well I just scanned a fruit cup in its own juice thats 70cal and it's 7points
That is alot of points I love that they have zero point foods because weighing fruit is annoying but my God that's ridiculous any suggestions
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So I'm on Weight Watchers I'm just coming back to trying to lose over 100lbs well I just scanned a fruit cup in its own juice thats 70cal and it's 7points
That is alot of points I love that they have zero point foods because weighing fruit is annoying but my God that's ridiculous any suggestions
Measuring fruit in cups was annoying. What's the problem with weighing it? You have a digital scale, as opposed to a spring scale, yes?
What's the brand of fruit cup? Perhaps the scanned entry was wrong and someone else here who does WW can verify that 7 points for you.2 -
I do think weight watchers work. There's obv mixed reviews everywhere. I preferred it over MFP because it seemed less tedious as far as tracking every single thing. Just thinking of points made it easier for me. But, you really have to be careful with tracking. Making sure you track the right brand, the recipes you track could use different ingredients...I've lost over 120 pounds using weight watchers, the zero points food wasn't an issue for me but I understand how it doesn't make sense and many people can abuse the zero point foods that actually have calories associated with them.
I cancelled my membership because I was tired of tracking and felt I was in a good place for intuitive eating. I am on MFP now because it's free (thank goodness) and I wasn't seeing much results with my body from eating whole foods and exercising. Now, I have a much better perspective on my macronutrients, and now I can see that I may have been undereating during my intuitive eating stint, even though I felt I was eating a lot.5 -
I left WW because of $$$ and because I feel like I have more choices to choose from on MFP3
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AlannaWulf wrote: »AlannaWulf wrote: »I will be the odd one here. I have been using weight watchers for about two weeks now and lost a healthy amount of weight. I joined to be motivated to eat better foods. It's encouraging me to eat healthier things such as veggies, fruits, and lean meats. I still eat a lot of the foods I did previously, just more in moderation. For instance, I still have a good treat (yes even ice cream) every day. I do not plan on doing weight watchers forever and plan to come back to calorie counting, but first I want to use it to motivate me to eat better foods.
It always amuses me that someone clicks "disagree" on a post about ones own personal experience. I think WW's lifestyle approach is really helpful for some folks. It was for me when I needed to look at food intake from a different vantage point. FWIW, I think you have a good approach - use what works for *you*
Yeah, it is kinda funny that people "disagree" with my personal experience. Lol, it doesn't change what I'm going to do and I hope they found what works for them!
And even more "Disagrees" on this post, too
I think some people get triggered by WW so much that if anyone posts in support of it - they just click the Disagree....
Each person should find what works for them, because that is what will help them stick to it. Thank goodness there are so many strategies and programs because we are all different people
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Already commented long ago, but recently heard this on an podcast:
"Does WW teach you to be successful without their plan? Why do they need to keep reinventing themselves every few years? Nutrition labels are consistent so why does the points calculation keep changing?"
Thought it was interesting.6 -
WW used to be great -- back when the points system was basically calories & fat & fibre -- but over the years their plans have gotten more and more complicated and less and less effective. I quit and moved to MFP when I realized that I was paying 50 bucks a month to be told to eat skinless chicken breast and steamed veggies.
Welcome to the free place. It doesn't come with weekly meetings and it's still possible to screw up all on your own, but it's *so* much better.6
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