Did I just ruin my metabolism unknowingly

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  • UmaMageswarymfp
    UmaMageswarymfp Posts: 280 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Based on the way you're logging your food intake and based on your losses your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) is approximately 667 calories a day higher than the average amount of food you've been eating.

    Until and unless you significantly change your life to the point where you are able to actually weigh the ingredients that go into the food you eat, and where you weight the actual amount that you eat the vast majority of the time, your calories in will remain relatively speaking very imprecise.

    Given this lack of precision I would not worry very much about the exact numbers.

    Before omad you used to eat out of the house a lot. Are you know finding yourself eating more home-cooked meals instead of eating street/hawker or market/restaurant food?

    A bowl of curry made by two different people and filled to different levels can be a very different experience.

    Smart substitutions and using items that tend to be filling such as the pumpkin you were talking about the other day are a smart way to go about doing things.

    We have discussed before going too fast, eating too little, and then undoing everything with a couple of days of excess eating.

    Even though you've got some weight available to lose patience is your friend. It takes many extra decades to try to go faster and fail when you give up when the results of your hard work are not visible as opposed to going slower and finding something that is sustainable to you, which you can see yourself doing for 5 or more years, and which therefore will be what you'll be doing for the next 5 years regardless of whether the results are visible at any one point of time.

    Stop thinking weight loss and start thinking long-term weight maintenance. Discovering that long-term will also lead you to the weight loss today.

    Alec , I can totally see myself doing OMAD as a long term thing so hopefully I’m on the right track
  • UmaMageswarymfp
    UmaMageswarymfp Posts: 280 Member
    Diatonic12 wrote: »
    Uma. In the past few weeks new science about OMAD has hit the news. I've watched some current vids, too.

    One of the drawbacks. Nutritional deficiencies. Tightly restricted one hour eating can also contribute to more disordered eating patterns. The quality of the meal is key. In a one hour sitting you can eat whatever you like.

    IF often confused with TRE and vice versa but a longer 8 hr eating window has health benefits. The reality is that for most people OMAD is not sustainable or a maintainable route to long term weight stability. Permanent weight stability.

    As with any new food protocol there's always beginner's luck. I'm a leader on an IF group. It was crickets when I started there and it's gasping for air now. There are no shortcuts to long term weight stability. I changed the name to TRE but people have lost interest because fasting is fading away into the sunset.

    Many years ago, there were over 7500 people on that thread but not one has come back to report any long term stability with their weight. It just didn't last or work or stick. I'm not sure what the next best thing is going to be but I can feel one coming in my bones. There's always another weight loss protocol coming around the corner.

    Respectfully, now may be the time to change horses midstream. There are some mathematical geniuses here. Why not settle in by eating the foods you enjoy, weighing and measuring as you tool along. It's so simple it sounds too good to be true but it's not.

    Every day, out of the clear blue sky comes another success story. Someone quietly doing all of the hard work without one single word whispered to the rest of us and out comes the photos. Blows the socks right off your feet.

    Embrace all of the healthy out of this place. It's here. Right under our noses.


    Omg here’s the thing , I’m terrified of changing my eating pattern now because I’m truly happy with OMAD. When I eat OMAD I get to have a heavy meal no matter if it’s high caloric food or low caloric food I still get to feel full with 1.3cals meal. In comparison to eating 3 meals a day where I have to divide accordingly simply didn’t work much for me because I love to overeat every meal. It’s been 1 month since I binged. Ever since I started doing OMAD when I feel like eating fast food , I can happily have it without worrying about going over my calories. I’m rarely hungry too. The one meal fills me up. That’s why ehen the scale showed My BMR is 1500 cals only I freaked out. That’s because I enjoy doing OMAD and it worries me how fast my bmr went to which worries me for the long run. What if my bmr hit 1000 calories. So it’ll be hard for me to maintain that
  • UmaMageswarymfp
    UmaMageswarymfp Posts: 280 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    The measuring device you're using could not and does not determine your actual BMR.
    The measuring device you're using has a fairly high percentage error.

    That said, your actual BMR is only a little bit relevant in the big scheme of things.

    You're reporting being relatively comfortable with the way you're eating now. This is good. It is the "holy grail". You WANT to be choosing a method that you feel you will be able to do forever.

    Why? Because at some point of time the scale won't "reward" you. And that will be the day you should be able to shrug it off and say: "hey, what does it matter: I'm happy enough eating like this and I intend to keep doing it anyway, so I can wait a week and two and three and four to see results".

    That said, OMAD (and keto as an example for people who have not been eating this way for years) concerns me as a long term plan for reasons similar to the ones stated by @Diatonic12 . I've seen a lot of people start and report success, only to disappear a bit later. Experimenting is good. Experimenting with yourself is the ONLY way forward. But you should be structuring the experiment in a way that ensures you will NOT give up.

    There is only one true point of failure in weigh management. When IDGAF takes over, followed by waking up several years (and lbs) later.

    So experiment all you want; but remember that all you need to control your weight is an overall caloric balance that heads in the right direction and the only way to get that is by keeping your head in the game!

    Thank you so much for this but I think I’ll continue doing OMAD until I feel like I can’t sustain anymore then I’ll find a new way to eat under my TEE. I just hope OMAD won’t wreck my BMR and I reallly hope that 1500 reading is inaccurate
  • lgfrie
    lgfrie Posts: 1,449 Member
    RMR is the amount of calories burned per day by someone in a coma. For everyone else, its only possible purpose is, if you are very sedentary, to multiply RMR by 1.2 to get a rough approximation of how many calories you burn per day. If one is more active, all bets are off as to what the multiplier should be - 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 - only way to know is to precisely measure incoming calories for 6 weeks and see what happens with your weight. To be clear on this important point, if you are not in a coma, then the *minimum* calories you will burn in a day is 1.2 * RMR.

    I don't think the "rocket science" notion is helpful for dieting. Dieting is actually very simple, one of the dumbest, most basic things known to mankind: eat less than your maintenance calories and you will lose weight. With your stated RMR of 1580, assuming that is accurate, your maintenance calories are right around 1.2 * 1580 = 1900. Which sounds about right. 1300 calories consumed per day therefore means a 600 calorie per day deficit, which should yield a little over 1 lb per week lost.

    The only way to "break a metabolism" is to die. You can't break your metabolism. It just doesn't happen, and can't. You don't need to worry about that. What will happen, to every person who loses weight is, for every pound you lose, you burn approximately 5.5 calories per day less. So, if you lose 10 pounds, you burn 55-ish calories per day less than when you started the diet. This adds up over time. I've lost 80 lbs and burn 440 calories less per day than when I started my diet. That is not breaking a metabolism and isn't rocket science, it's just "getting smaller". Ultimately a good thing, but a bit frustrating for people who start off obese and expect dieting to be as easy after 6 months as it was in the first month. It just doesn't pan out that way.
  • Diatonic12
    Diatonic12 Posts: 32,344 Member
    edited September 2020
    I don't question why others care so much. They're invested. Many of us have ridden that merry-go-round-all the horses' saddles are worn smooth from our hindends. Rebound weight gain with friends sux.

    People come and they go, never to be heard from again. MFP is subtle. I knew that Helloooo. It's not in your face. No guilt, no shame. No food nitwittery. I honestly think being here has made all of the difference in the world to me.

    I do want to be caught between completely overreaching and totally underachieving in the Moderation Zone. I like I can't fool myself realism. It's good medicine to tell on yourself when you start to go sideways. Stay humble, I've learned that showing off comes before a fall. Riding your bike with no hands and thinking you've got it made.





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