I am desperate at this point in my 1 month journey. Can you offer advice?
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I’m gonna be honest and say this bc you need to hear it, you need to address your binge eating disorder and possibly attend over eaters anonymous. You need to get to the core issues that cause you to want to binge and find healthy coping skills. You cannot just stop binge eating. It’s a process. It’s possible you damaged your metabolism but I’m no expert. Also you love food, you love the taste, the mouthfeel etc. so my suggestion is to eat foods you love! Don’t abstain. Just learn to eat less. If you don’t want to eat carbs you don’t have to. If you want to keto or even go low carb or even carb cycle do it. You need something that feels like it’s not cheating. That you don’t feast bc you feel deprived of your favorite things. I love food I just found ways to make it work for me. I cannot lose weight with a traditional caloric deficit ( unless I’m eating 1200 calories). Pcos and ibs make it difficult so I have to eat low carb, or carb cycle to lose or keto. This s my body and I know that is it that’s what works. My problem is I like to fill empty time with eating. But I also think i wonder bc you were fasting and keto for awhile if your body is still adapted somehow? So you aren’t hungry all day sometimes. Perhaps you adjust to that type of eating or do intermittent fasting.2
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As others have said, the data that you have posted shows that you are losing, steadily and fast. You have lost 8.6 lbs in the past five weeks, so that is ca. 1.6 lbs per week. You might want to think about whether this is wise, and perhaps aim for ca. 1lb per week? (The disagree fairy will probably disagree with this too.)
There is in my view nothing wrong with weighing in daily (I do this also) providing you record your data in a way that helps you understand the trends you are seeing. A graph can help with that, as it can help you to see the line of yor loss. It's really easy to get fixated on the numbers of the last few days and forget the larger picture and having the data presented visually can do that. MFP will draw you a graph if you enter your weight, and so will your spreadsheet. I am copying my graph below, and you can see that day-by-day my weight is going up and down (sometimes by several pounds) but month-by-month I have been losing steadily. I also have my spreadsheet calculate my mean weight in each month to date which is really comforting when I feel stuck, as I can see how my average weight has dropped from the previous month.
Do listen to those who are urging you to get help, but also do look more carefully at - and affirm - what you have already achieved. As is often said on these forums, you did not put the weight on in five weeks, so you will not take it off in five weeks either.
I have put your data into my spreadsheet (I'll delete it again when I have posted this). Here is your data as a graph:
You seem at the moment to be having a bit of an upsurge as you can see that I did at the beginning of July. (My graph is in kgs over a longer period so the scale has adjusted and that up-turn looks a lot less significant that it felt at the time.) Take heart from the fact that your average (mean) weight in September was 250.26 lbs and your weight in October to date was 245.09 lbs, so you are more than 5lbs down. Eat at a (sensible) deficit, and your weight will start to drop again. I would also strongly advise taking the red script off your spreadsheet highlighting weights that are up from the previous day. You are always going to have weight-up days as well as weight-down days, and you need to be looking at trends if you are not to drive yourself crazy. A higher weight is only a problem if it is really a trend and you can't see that until you look at data for several weeks.
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Ok - seriously. When replying from the app, if you type a bunch and then turn the phone sideways, it wipes everything you painstakingly typed. UGH! I read every single reply and I didn't disagree with anyone. Disagree fairy... Ha! If someone disagrees, I would love to hear their opinion. I GREATLY appreciate each and every response. You are all correct. I'm obsessed with the scale. As of today, I wont be weighing in everyday. I will set a day once a week to check in. If I gain (and it will happen), I will record and move on. If I lose, I will record and move on. I'm going to set goals that have nothing to do with the scale. I can even set food goals like, "eat 3 servings of yucky veggies" or "do 3 sets of 15 of the 20lb alternating dumbbell curls and not cry" and so on. As some have guessed or alluded to, I have PTSD-C from 10 years of a very abusive man who WRECKED my self-worth. I am in therapy and I brought this discussion to my therapist as a talking point. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for going easy on me. I expected 4 pounds a week weight loss like I used to have but what I did before was extremely unhealthy and, as you can tell, wasn't sustainable! I appreciate everyone and I look forward to meeting my daily and weekly goals along side of you all. Have a fantastic weekend everyone!!!18
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Good for you!
Just a thought: you could eat three servings of delicious veggies, you know, or do exercise you enjoy. This is about developing a healthy lifestyle, not becoming a martyr or somehow trying to beat your body into submission. Giving yourself permission to savour things you like to eat (in moderation) and enjoy activities you like to do as you explore how best to move towards a healthy weight could turn the journey into one of enjoyable discovery.
And I deeply sympathise with the lost post. I lost mine too!7 -
Also, you might find this interesting and relevant: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662287/the-goal-is-the-process/p13
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Looking at your net calories makes me think you are very stressed and cortisol is causing you to retain water, which is reflecting on the scale as less loss than you would expect from the low calories:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/dietary-restraint-and-cortisol-levels-research-review.html/
...a group of women who scored higher on dietary restraint scores showed elevated baseline cortisol levels. By itself this might not be problematic, but as often as not, these types of dieters are drawn to extreme approaches to dieting.
They throw in a lot of intense exercise, try to cut calories very hard (and this often backfires if disinhibition is high; when these folks break they break) and cortisol levels go through the roof. That often causes cortisol mediated water retention (there are other mechanisms for this, mind you, leptin actually inhibits cortisol release and as it drops on a diet, cortisol levels go up further). Weight and fat loss appear to have stopped or at least slowed significantly. This is compounded even further in female dieters due to the vagaries of their menstrual cycle where water balance is changing enormously week to week anyhow.
And invariably, this type of psychology responds to the stall by going even harder. They attempt to cut calories harder, they start doing more activity. The cycle continues and gets worse. Harder dieting means more cortisol means more water retention means more dieting. Which backfires (other problems come in the long-term with this approach but you’ll have to wait for the book to read about that).
When what they should do is take a day or two off (even one day off from training, at least in men, lets cortisol drop significantly). Raise calories, especially from carbohydrates. This helps cortisol to drop. More than that they need to find a way to freaking chill out. Meditation, yoga, get a massage... Get in the bath, candles, a little Enya, a glass of wine, have some you-time but please just chill.7 -
jessiemeckle wrote: »I am not a professional, nor can I give sound advice because I am struggling as well. I just wanted to say that the first thing I noticed from your chart is that you weigh in every day. You are going to drive yourself nuts. 2nd, you lost 9 pounds in a little over a month! NINE! That's amazing! Some days you eat less than 1,000 calories, am I reading that right? I would feel so weak and exhausted by the end of the day. I hope someone has good advice because I am interested as well. I just wanted to say keep going, you are doing great! And you are brave for putting it all out there.
Why did 11 people disagree with me?1 -
If you gain on "1300" its because its not 1300 on average everyday. You're significantly underestimating what you're eating...1
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jessiemeckle wrote: »jessiemeckle wrote: »I am not a professional, nor can I give sound advice because I am struggling as well. I just wanted to say that the first thing I noticed from your chart is that you weigh in every day. You are going to drive yourself nuts. 2nd, you lost 9 pounds in a little over a month! NINE! That's amazing! Some days you eat less than 1,000 calories, am I reading that right? I would feel so weak and exhausted by the end of the day. I hope someone has good advice because I am interested as well. I just wanted to say keep going, you are doing great! And you are brave for putting it all out there.
Why did 11 people disagree with me?
I can only guess, but maybe because you said weighing daily would drive the OP nuts. Some people respond better to a weekly (or monthly, or whatever) weigh in, but others can do it daily and have no negative thoughts related to the daily fluctuations. Therefore, each individual should decide what their preferred frequency ought to be. There are no universal rules for that particular aspect.
As for the rest of your post, I have nothing to disagree with, and I wish you and the OP all the best.2 -
GummiMundi wrote: »jessiemeckle wrote: »jessiemeckle wrote: »I am not a professional, nor can I give sound advice because I am struggling as well. I just wanted to say that the first thing I noticed from your chart is that you weigh in every day. You are going to drive yourself nuts. 2nd, you lost 9 pounds in a little over a month! NINE! That's amazing! Some days you eat less than 1,000 calories, am I reading that right? I would feel so weak and exhausted by the end of the day. I hope someone has good advice because I am interested as well. I just wanted to say keep going, you are doing great! And you are brave for putting it all out there.
Why did 11 people disagree with me?
I can only guess, but maybe because you said weighing daily would drive the OP nuts. Some people respond better to a weekly (or monthly, or whatever) weigh in, but others can do it daily and have no negative thoughts related to the daily fluctuations. Therefore, each individual should decide what their preferred frequency ought to be. There are no universal rules for that particular aspect.
As for the rest of your post, I have nothing to disagree with, and I wish you and the OP all the best.
That and it seems like the disagree fairies are active in this thread for some reason.
I'm guessing your assumption is correct though.
Either that or maybe some are thinking 9 lbs in a month is too much. 🤷♂️2 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »That and it seems like the disagree fairies are active in this thread for some reason.
I'm guessing your assumption is correct though.
Either that or maybe some are thinking 9 lbs in a month is too much. 🤷♂️
They really are active here! I didn't disagree with your post, but I am a daily weigher, as you will probably have seen. I think it's about what you do with the information. I'm taking part in a weekly weigh-in challenge at present and that has confirmed for me that not knowing what happens between those weekly weigh-ins would drive me nuts. It#s easier to see today's weght the same time as last week' when I know that in between i was more than a kg/2 lbs down. What works for a particular individual is very personal.
I completely agree about 9lbs per month being too much!2 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »That and it seems like the disagree fairies are active in this thread for some reason.
I'm guessing your assumption is correct though.
Either that or maybe some are thinking 9 lbs in a month is too much. 🤷♂️
They really are active here! I didn't disagree with your post, but I am a daily weigher, as you will probably have seen. I think it's about what you do with the information. I'm taking part in a weekly weigh-in challenge at present and that has confirmed for me that not knowing what happens between those weekly weigh-ins would drive me nuts. It#s easier to see today's weght the same time as last week' when I know that in between i was more than a kg/2 lbs down. What works for a particular individual is very personal.
I completely agree about 9lbs per month being too much!
And same with me...I prefer to weigh daily and track each day in Libra so I can spot trends. It also helps when I feel discouraged, to look at that nice downward trending line as a reminder that I'm doing fine.
In the particular case of the OP, though, I don't disagree with @jessiemeckle. Seemed like OP was becoming a bit too obsessive with what was happening on the scale and maybe needed to back away from it for a bit.2 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »dragon_girl26 wrote: »That and it seems like the disagree fairies are active in this thread for some reason.
I'm guessing your assumption is correct though.
Either that or maybe some are thinking 9 lbs in a month is too much. 🤷♂️
They really are active here! I didn't disagree with your post, but I am a daily weigher, as you will probably have seen. I think it's about what you do with the information. I'm taking part in a weekly weigh-in challenge at present and that has confirmed for me that not knowing what happens between those weekly weigh-ins would drive me nuts. It#s easier to see today's weght the same time as last week' when I know that in between i was more than a kg/2 lbs down. What works for a particular individual is very personal.
I completely agree about 9lbs per month being too much!
And same with me...I prefer to weigh daily and track each day in Libra so I can spot trends. It also helps when I feel discouraged, to look at that nice downward trending line as a reminder that I'm doing fine.
In the particular case of the OP, though, I don't disagree with @jessiemeckle. Seemed like OP was becoming a bit too obsessive with what was happening on the scale and maybe needed to back away from it for a bit.
Weekly weigher here as I obsess when I weigh in daily. I wouldn’t disagree with those whom it works for though.
I often believe the disagree fairies just think their way is the ONLY way.0 -
The toddler has gotten on someone's computer when they went to the kitchen and not understanding how to read thought they'd click the disagree.
But they can't type.
Or is it easier on the app?1 -
The toddler has gotten on someone's computer when they went to the kitchen and not understanding how to read thought they'd click the disagree.
But they can't type.
Or is it easier on the app?
On the app, it's pretty easy to hit "disagree" and never even realize you did it.
(Although the toddler option is also plausible! )1 -
Dogmom1978 wrote: »I often believe the disagree fairies just think their way is the ONLY way.
Yes, I was thinking that too. It's a shame as one of the things I value about mfp is the reminder that everyone's way is unique. I have learned so much here about what can work, and has worked for other people, but I also definitely learned that it doesn't all work for me. And also, by extension, what I do and experience doesn't tally with what others do and experience.3 -
Dogmom1978 wrote: »dragon_girl26 wrote: »dragon_girl26 wrote: »That and it seems like the disagree fairies are active in this thread for some reason.
I'm guessing your assumption is correct though.
Either that or maybe some are thinking 9 lbs in a month is too much. 🤷♂️
They really are active here! I didn't disagree with your post, but I am a daily weigher, as you will probably have seen. I think it's about what you do with the information. I'm taking part in a weekly weigh-in challenge at present and that has confirmed for me that not knowing what happens between those weekly weigh-ins would drive me nuts. It#s easier to see today's weght the same time as last week' when I know that in between i was more than a kg/2 lbs down. What works for a particular individual is very personal.
I completely agree about 9lbs per month being too much!
And same with me...I prefer to weigh daily and track each day in Libra so I can spot trends. It also helps when I feel discouraged, to look at that nice downward trending line as a reminder that I'm doing fine.
In the particular case of the OP, though, I don't disagree with @jessiemeckle. Seemed like OP was becoming a bit too obsessive with what was happening on the scale and maybe needed to back away from it for a bit.
Weekly weigher here as I obsess when I weigh in daily. I wouldn’t disagree with those whom it works for though.
I often believe the disagree fairies just think their way is the ONLY way.
I think so, too, although they usually offer a disagree and no explanations. I guess they want to keep all their rightness to themselves lol0 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »Dogmom1978 wrote: »dragon_girl26 wrote: »dragon_girl26 wrote: »That and it seems like the disagree fairies are active in this thread for some reason.
I'm guessing your assumption is correct though.
Either that or maybe some are thinking 9 lbs in a month is too much. 🤷♂️
They really are active here! I didn't disagree with your post, but I am a daily weigher, as you will probably have seen. I think it's about what you do with the information. I'm taking part in a weekly weigh-in challenge at present and that has confirmed for me that not knowing what happens between those weekly weigh-ins would drive me nuts. It#s easier to see today's weght the same time as last week' when I know that in between i was more than a kg/2 lbs down. What works for a particular individual is very personal.
I completely agree about 9lbs per month being too much!
And same with me...I prefer to weigh daily and track each day in Libra so I can spot trends. It also helps when I feel discouraged, to look at that nice downward trending line as a reminder that I'm doing fine.
In the particular case of the OP, though, I don't disagree with @jessiemeckle. Seemed like OP was becoming a bit too obsessive with what was happening on the scale and maybe needed to back away from it for a bit.
Weekly weigher here as I obsess when I weigh in daily. I wouldn’t disagree with those whom it works for though.
I often believe the disagree fairies just think their way is the ONLY way.
I think so, too, although they usually offer a disagree and no explanations. I guess they want to keep all their rightness to themselves lol
Well obviously, they can’t let people know their secrets.1
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