Potatoes
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snowflake954 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »B_Plus_Effort wrote: »if you want to loose weight and just get it over with, then no potatoes just eat a meat ie protein and a green vegetable, so chicken and broccoli NO rice, salmon and green beans NO quinoa, steak and asparagus NO potatoes, eggs and spinach NO bread, something and something NO tortilla
protein + green veggie
you can thank me after 6 weeks! ha ha
How is eating 400 calories of salmon and potato going to result in me losing weight faster than me eating 400 calories of salmon and broccoli?
Jane--you've got it turned around. He thinks that if you eat salmon and broccoli you'll lose more and faster than salmon and potato, but then again, he's keto and that's pretty much a religion. I suppose because it's hard to stick to if you don't convince yourself that it's marvelous. My apologies to those ketoer's who like it and don't try to convince everyone to to it.
Oops, I knew that -- I just switched it around in the writing! Thanks.2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »B_Plus_Effort wrote: »if you want to loose weight and just get it over with, then no potatoes just eat a meat ie protein and a green vegetable, so chicken and broccoli NO rice, salmon and green beans NO quinoa, steak and asparagus NO potatoes, eggs and spinach NO bread, something and something NO tortilla
protein + green veggie
you can thank me after 6 weeks! ha ha
How is eating 400 calories of salmon and potato going to result in me losing weight faster than me eating 400 calories of salmon and broccoli?
Jane--you've got it turned around. He thinks that if you eat salmon and broccoli you'll lose more and faster than salmon and potato, but then again, he's keto and that's pretty much a religion. I suppose because it's hard to stick to if you don't convince yourself that it's marvelous. My apologies to those ketoer's who like it and don't try to convince everyone to to it.
Oops, I knew that -- I just switched it around in the writing! Thanks.
Sorry--I immortalized it in my quote. Want me to wipe it all out?0 -
B_Plus_Effort wrote: »if you want to loose weight and just get it over with, then no potatoes just eat a meat ie protein and a green vegetable, so chicken and broccoli NO rice, salmon and green beans NO quinoa, steak and asparagus NO potatoes, eggs and spinach NO bread, something and something NO tortilla
protein + green veggie
you can thank me after 6 weeks! ha ha
You should do a Google search on the Penn Jillette potato diet... might dispel some of your nonsense about potatoes.4 -
snowflake954 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »B_Plus_Effort wrote: »if you want to loose weight and just get it over with, then no potatoes just eat a meat ie protein and a green vegetable, so chicken and broccoli NO rice, salmon and green beans NO quinoa, steak and asparagus NO potatoes, eggs and spinach NO bread, something and something NO tortilla
protein + green veggie
you can thank me after 6 weeks! ha ha
How is eating 400 calories of salmon and potato going to result in me losing weight faster than me eating 400 calories of salmon and broccoli?
Jane--you've got it turned around. He thinks that if you eat salmon and broccoli you'll lose more and faster than salmon and potato, but then again, he's keto and that's pretty much a religion. I suppose because it's hard to stick to if you don't convince yourself that it's marvelous. My apologies to those ketoer's who like it and don't try to convince everyone to to it.
Oops, I knew that -- I just switched it around in the writing! Thanks.
Sorry--I immortalized it in my quote. Want me to wipe it all out?
No, it's a useful reminder of my fallibility!1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »B_Plus_Effort wrote: »if you want to loose weight and just get it over with, then no potatoes just eat a meat ie protein and a green vegetable, so chicken and broccoli NO rice, salmon and green beans NO quinoa, steak and asparagus NO potatoes, eggs and spinach NO bread, something and something NO tortilla
protein + green veggie
you can thank me after 6 weeks! ha ha
How is eating 400 calories of salmon and potato going to result in me losing weight slower than me eating 400 calories of salmon and broccoli?
Well... are we talking listed calories or useable calories???1 -
B_Plus_Effort wrote: »if you want to loose weight and just get it over with, then no potatoes just eat a meat ie protein and a green vegetable, so chicken and broccoli NO rice, salmon and green beans NO quinoa, steak and asparagus NO potatoes, eggs and spinach NO bread, something and something NO tortilla
protein + green veggie
you can thank me after 6 weeks! ha ha
Jeez, I for sure can't eat that many NOs. 😉
Since I haven't eaten meat or fish since 1974, that's another pitfall, for me.
Fortunately, I already lost 50+ pounds in less than a year (and stayed at a healthy weight for 5 years since, BTW), I don't *need* to do that. And pretty much no one else *needs* to do it, either, unless they have food allergies or something.
Jeez.
OP: I had a nice bowl of roasted potatoes with ketchup (yeah, lowbrow) while first reading your post. They were delicious.
So are rice, quinoa, bread, tortillas, and all kinds of other things that aren't green or meat, and they're all things one can eat (in proper portions, proportions, and frequencies) while losing weight and simultaneously getting good overall nutrition.
Eat whatever you like within your calorie goal, to manage your weight. On top of that, get decent well-rounded nutrition for health, energy level, and other good stuff.
Don't buy into the "good foods/bad foods" or "diet foods/fattening foods" nonsense. Individual foods are just puzzle pieces you combine to hit a calorie goal and get good nutrition, while feeling satiated and enjoying what you eat.9 -
B_Plus_Effort wrote: »if you want to loose weight and just get it over with, then no potatoes just eat a meat ie protein and a green vegetable, so chicken and broccoli NO rice, salmon and green beans NO quinoa, steak and asparagus NO potatoes, eggs and spinach NO bread, something and something NO tortilla
protein + green veggie
you can thank me after 6 weeks! ha ha
This is horribly misguided and just plain bad advice.14 -
B_Plus_Effort wrote: »if you want to loose weight and just get it over with, then no potatoes just eat a meat ie protein and a green vegetable, so chicken and broccoli NO rice, salmon and green beans NO quinoa, steak and asparagus NO potatoes, eggs and spinach NO bread, something and something NO tortilla
protein + green veggie
you can thank me after 6 weeks! ha ha
What are you talking about? Honestly, is your purpose in life to make the life of others miserable and to spout misinformation?
My dinner tonight will be a veggy burger, with a bun, and with pan roast potatoes on the side. Oh, and no broccoli but radishes and avocado. I'll probably be 2kg up tomorrow, just because it's not chicken and broccoli.5 -
Unless you're talking crisps, fast food fries, or some prepacked frozen creation, it's just a vegetable! Lots of fibre and nutrients, and a healthier carb than bread.
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B_Plus_Effort wrote: »if you want to loose weight and just get it over with, then no potatoes just eat a meat ie protein and a green vegetable, so chicken and broccoli NO rice, salmon and green beans NO quinoa, steak and asparagus NO potatoes, eggs and spinach NO bread, something and something NO tortilla
protein + green veggie
you can thank me after 6 weeks! ha ha
You mean anyone who wants to crash diet. And it's called crash for a reason.
Call me crazy, but I thought mfp was a place for people who wanted to build lifelong healthy habits, not yo-yo diet.8 -
Unless you're talking crisps, fast food fries, or some prepacked frozen creation, it's just a vegetable! Lots of fibre and nutrients, and a healthier carb than bread.
Nothing wrong with crisps, fries or other stuff. Yeah, the nutritional value is probably not great, but it's food. I always make sure to add comfort food to my meals every now and then. Chunky chips with peanut sauce is fantastic! And if I really feel like eating a big bag of crisps then it's the bag of crisps instead of dinner, and still go over my calories. And enjoy the water weight gain the next day.6 -
Unless you're talking crisps, fast food fries, or some prepacked frozen creation, it's just a vegetable! Lots of fibre and nutrients, and a healthier carb than bread.
Nothing wrong with crisps, fries or other stuff. Yeah, the nutritional value is probably not great, but it's food. I always make sure to add comfort food to my meals every now and then. Chunky chips with peanut sauce is fantastic! And if I really feel like eating a big bag of crisps then it's the bag of crisps instead of dinner, and still go over my calories. And enjoy the water weight gain the next day.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with fries. I'm a big fan of fish and chips! But they're not in the "just a vegetable" pile at that point. There's a line where I stop to consider salt and saturated fat intake, and whether it's the occasional treat or a bad habit that could impact future health.6 -
Unless you're talking crisps, fast food fries, or some prepacked frozen creation, it's just a vegetable! Lots of fibre and nutrients, and a healthier carb than bread.
Nothing wrong with crisps, fries or other stuff. Yeah, the nutritional value is probably not great, but it's food. I always make sure to add comfort food to my meals every now and then. Chunky chips with peanut sauce is fantastic! And if I really feel like eating a big bag of crisps then it's the bag of crisps instead of dinner, and still go over my calories. And enjoy the water weight gain the next day.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with fries. I'm a big fan of fish and chips! But they're not in the "just a vegetable" pile at that point. There's a line where I stop to consider salt and saturated fat intake, and whether it's the occasional treat or a bad habit that could impact future health.
Agreed!
Note to self: Don't read MFP while working3 -
B_Plus_Effort wrote: »if you want to loose weight and just get it over with, then no potatoes just eat a meat ie protein and a green vegetable, so chicken and broccoli NO rice, salmon and green beans NO quinoa, steak and asparagus NO potatoes, eggs and spinach NO bread, something and something NO tortilla
protein + green veggie
you can thank me after 6 weeks! ha ha
You mean anyone who wants to crash diet. And it's called crash for a reason.
Call me crazy, but I thought mfp was a place for people who wanted to build lifelong healthy habits, not yo-yo diet.
Love this!!!!!!!
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Unless you're talking crisps, fast food fries, or some prepacked frozen creation, it's just a vegetable! Lots of fibre and nutrients, and a healthier carb than bread.
Even if you're talking about crisps or fries, they're still just vegetables. Nothing about frying a potato makes it a non-potato. It's just a potato with calories added in the form of oil.7 -
Ode To Potatoes
Oh how I love thee mashed or fried
I once tried to live without thee
But just about died
You're so delicious, plain or jazzed up
Salt and pepper, butter or ketchup
Down my throat hole and into my belly
It probably wont taste too good with jelly
Come swiftly to me, in my cart you go
Oh how I love thee, my darling potato12 -
I love potatoes, sweet, yukon gold, mini potatoes, russet, you name it. Key is how you dress them up--high fat toppings means a caloric potato. Instead, I top sweet potatoes with a half tbsp. of maple syrup (25 calories), toss mini potatoes with carrots, onions, garlic, and olive oil and season with salt and spices. For mashed potatoes, I add some soy or almond milk, goya adobo seasoning, and a half tablespoon of plant based butter. Vegan mushroom gravy with peas, cut carrots, and onions is another delicious option. Or use them to top a shepherd's pie (mine is with lentils) after whipping with some plant milk (or real milk--I have a dairy allergy so I have to substitute) with a little paprika and cheese on top. As long as you watch portion sizes, you will be fine. My favorite weight loss tool is my food scale and measuring cups and spoons.
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Potatoes are food. Log them accurately, and as long as they fit into your calorie budget, go nuts. The statement "you could eat nothing but potatoes all day, every day, and still lose weight" is factually true, as long as you're eating fewer calories than your body consumes in the course of keeping you alive each day. It's factually true of any other food, too. It probably wouldn't be pleasant to be on the All Potatoes, All the Time diet - they'd be processed relatively quickly in your body so you'd be hungry all the time, and also you'd eventually develop vitamin deficiencies - but like, if your only metric of success is "weigh less," it would work.0
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goal06082021 wrote: »Potatoes are food. Log them accurately, and as long as they fit into your calorie budget, go nuts. The statement "you could eat nothing but potatoes all day, every day, and still lose weight" is factually true, as long as you're eating fewer calories than your body consumes in the course of keeping you alive each day. It's factually true of any other food, too. It probably wouldn't be pleasant to be on the All Potatoes, All the Time diet - they'd be processed relatively quickly in your body so you'd be hungry all the time, and also you'd eventually develop vitamin deficiencies - but like, if your only metric of success is "weigh less," it would work.
There's at least one study showing that potatoes rank pretty high on the satiety scale for many people. I'm not saying it would be a particularly FUN diet for a lot of us, but eating just potatoes probably wouldn't be that bad for many in terms of actual physical hunger. I'd be at a deficit at 1,500 calories and eating 500 calories of potatoes three times a day . . . is a lot of potatoes.3 -
Has anyone on this thread yet observed that the all-potato diet is an actual thing, and has been done to the point of substantial weight loss?
https://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/a19536403/can-the-potato-diet-help-you-lose-weight-safely/
(Guy in example did eat sweet potatoes as well as white, plu some seasonings, and a small amount of things like soy milk in the mashed version, etc. But basically all potatoes, volume-wise, for a year.)
Here's another dude who did it for two months, with fewer extras involved, and actually had his blood chemistry improve:
https://spudman.com/article/all-potato-diet-eight-years-later-voigt/
Yeah, usually people do it for shorter periods . . . but it's very real. (I'm not encouraging it, to be clear: Just reporting.)5 -
Potatoes are one of the highest food on the satiety index. They have a lot of nutrients too. Plus they are delicious!
I highly recommend weighing your potato on a food scale. Don’t estimate using entries saying “medium potato” or “small potato”, for example. The “medium potato entry may say it is 165 calories but if you weigh it you will find it has more like 300 calories. I got tricked like this before and ended up eating too much.
Use the USDA weight for raw potato in grams.5 -
Well thanks to this thread I have added potatoes back to my rotation and I forgot how good they are. I wasn't avoiding them for any particular reason but just didn't have them in a long time. I have to say, the comments about them being filling have so far turned out to be true. And....yum!10
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