Cheat meals
DylanSaffa
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Do you do cheat days or cheat meals? If you do, what's your go to meal? Do you still have your cheat meal if you had a bad week of eating or working out? If you don't do cheat meals, what do you do as an alternative or do you eventually get to the point of no more cravings?
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How do you define cheat meal? Eating food you don't usually 'let' yourself eat? Or eating above your calorie goal? Or a meal where you don't count the calories?
I don't do cheat meals in any definition, since I'm not married to my diet 😉
I eat all the foods I like within my calorie goal (and sometimes above my calorie goal, if I'm still on track long term). I have 'treat' foods every single day, in appropriate portions. I'm aiming for a slow rate of loss, which also helps to reduce cravings.9 -
Let's change your thinking. No such thing as cheating with food. Food is neither bad nor good. Food is how you fuel your day. Do you have days that you may have overindulged food? Yep, we all have. Count your calories. Eat those veggies and proteins, and you'll be good.13
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Like @Lietchi, I course correct (usually by the weekend).
So I'll eat more if MFP says I'm tracking way under my weekly goal (for me, this would be anything more than 1,000 calories).
There's no one food or dish, I turn to though.
But today it just happens to be buttered popcorn and Sesame Snaps for my snacks 🤷🏿♀️2 -
If you understand how and why cico works then you wouldnt feel the need for a 'cheat meal'. Overall it is your weekly calorie intake that matter so if you go over your calories by eating a large calorie dense meal, you can technically make up for it the next day by eating a bit less. The concept of 'cheating' is used for fad diets like keto which are not maintainable.7
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Interesting seeing that there is generally a consensus against the typical cheat meal like what Dwayne Johnson does. And I agree. If you know you're wanting a big burger with desert for dinner, have a light breakfast and possibly no lunch.3
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I only get 1500 calories a day. there's not much I cant fit in that, if I want to. I have sweets of some kind pretty much every day.
if we go out to eat, if I know we are in advance, I can plan for it. I don't really eat breakfast but can skip or have a lighter lunch. or get in extra workout(s) to help pay for it.
or if I'm over, I'm over. its not the end of the world.
Life continues. there are birthdays, holidays, random celebrations, vacations. Learn that you control the food, and that the food does not control you, and you will create a whole new dynamic. My birthday was on the 14th. ate out twice that week. had several pieces of the chocolate cake I made. still lost weight. ate out twice THIS week. still lost weight.4 -
Who or what would I be cheating? To me, "cheat meals" are like Santa Claus is to me as an adult, maybe appealing, but certainly mythical. My body counts every calorie.
I didn't eliminate foods, let alone whole groups of them, to lose weight. I just rearranged portions, relative proportions, and frequencies of what I eat, to hit my calorie goal, while balancing calories, nutrition, fullness, tastiness, practicality, athletic performance, social connection through food, and more. (It was a gradual remodeling process.)
There aren't "bad foods" or "good foods", "diet foods" or "unhealthy foods" (as long as not literally poisonous, allergenic for me personally, or contraindicated by a medical condition). There are just foods, with various characteristics. I need to combine them in ways that achieve the balance I mentioned in the paragraph above. For sure, there are bad overall ways of eating (too many/few calories, undernutrition) and better ways of eating. (Perfection probably isn't realistic. Balance!)
All of that said, I have days where I eat below goal (occasional), right around goal (frequent), a bit above goal (occasional) and way, way above goal (rarely, but it can be up to 2-3 times my maintenance calories, on rare occasions, maybe a handful of times a year). Those are *decisions*, in my world, not "cheats". If I eat over goal and decide afterward that it wasn't worth it, I need to revise my plan to avoid repeats. If it was worth it, I need to work it in somehow.
Routinely, especially now in weight maintenance, I calorie bank. I eat *a little* under my maintenance calories most days. Occasionally, as I mentioned, I eat above my maintenance calories. Logging and my scale weight tell me what my calorie bank account balance is, over time. It's not that different from budgeting money, really. Things need to balance; sometimes I use my credit card, or sometimes I put cash into savings. Becoming over-fat is like too much credit card debt, basically: It becomes a burden.
I budgeted a little more closely during weight loss, and am a little more loose (but not inattentive) now. I'm still BMI 20-point-something now (around 125 pounds at 5'5"), in year 5+ of maintaining a healthy weight after previous *decades* of obesity, so it works for me.
One can calorie bank during loss, too, but I think it requires some caution. It would be silly to eat 900 calories 7 days a week in order to eat 10,000 over the two days of the weekend. The weekday deficit would need to be reasonable, healthy, sustainable. But the general strategy works.
Best wishes!6 -
Can we just create the acronym IIFYC already (if it fits your calories). That’s gonna be my thing now, just sayin.
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I eat maintenance calories for 1-2 weeks for every 10lbs I lose. WHAT I eat doesn't really change though, it just adds 250 or so calories. but the things I eat occasionally because I love them and that aren't a regular part of my diet? I love a whopper (specifically Whopper, no I don't know why). Really good ice cream. Slice of cheesecake. Resse's eggs around Easter. I always eat those things though whether in deficit or eating maintenance - I just have fewer calories to fit them into when I'm trying to lose weight, so it's still a once or twice a month thing, usually. A granola bar, some chocolate, or a handful of chips are pretty much daily things - I just fit them into the calories I have.
And, speaking of calories I have, even when I'm 'losing' I'm not rigid. It's a range for me, not a hard number. the only hard and fasts are at least 1200 and not over whatever my maintenance are (which right now are about 1800)4 -
If by "cheating" is meant uncounted, non-logged binging, I think that is just a really bad idea for dieting, and the cause of many (most?) failed diet efforts. It is really best avoided, and with a little effort and discipline, can be. Just count and log, and enjoy your meal/day off.
If "cheating" means having a meal that's intentionally some non-insane # of calories over the quota, so as to take a break from the calorie deficit now and then, then sure, why not, as long as you're getting the results you want. I take one of those around every two weeks, usually on a Saturday night, we'll allow an extra 500-1000 cals to have a special meal or split a bottle of wine or whatever. No harm done, and fulfills an important purpose in the overall diet project. But it all gets counted and logged. Knowing I will have to see the damage as an offending number on my pretty little spreadsheet helps keep the train on the rails.
"Cheat" is not a useful word. Your body takes in food, burns a certain amount of energy, and if those two numbers don't match up, you're gonna gain or lose weight. There is no cheating in that, just chemistry.8 -
I wouldn't call it "cheating", but on the weekends I eat about 500 calories more each day than I do during the week. It allows me to have different foods that are higher calorie than I normally do on other days and also sort of something to look forward to. I still track and log everything. This works for me. If I didn't eat higher a few days during the week I would probably have issues. The only "issue" this causes for me is that for a day or two my scale weight might be a little higher. It's funny, after a heavier eating weekend, Monday is still normal weight but Tuesday and Wednesday are higher. Bodies.....they're weird things.3
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DylanSaffa wrote: »Interesting seeing that there is generally a consensus against the typical cheat meal like what Dwayne Johnson does. And I agree. If you know you're wanting a big burger with desert for dinner, have a light breakfast and possibly no lunch.
If I were built like The Rock and trained like The Rock, only then would I consider eating like The Rock
https://www.muscleandfitness.com/athletes-celebrities/news/11-times-rock-was-cheat-meal-god/11 -
I don't like the language of "cheat" meals, because who have I cheated?? ME: the ONE person with whom I must be honest.
I occasionally "splurge"-- but, just like a financial splurge, I "save" calories for a few days in advance so I can "spend" them without guilt or "cheating" myself. Or, if I don't save up enough beforehand and I need to "borrow" from future days, I "pay" back the "debt" as quickly as I can3 -
I'm trying to leave guilt behind and anything"cheat" doesn't work for that mindset. I decided to incorporate the foods I love into my allotment, through planning and logging and portion control. IF I want to go big on calories, I'll likely also go big on exercise within a day or two of the big meal and eat less before or after the planned splurge. Over the long range that type of approach is successful.1
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I don't consider it cheating. We nearly always do takeout or eat outside on Saturday and restaurant meals tend to be more caloric than anything I make at home. So on Saturday I may eat a low cal brunch and eliminate snacks so I can enjoy my restaurant meal. While I still try to within my current calorie allocation I am OK with going over the limit as long as it doesn't happen more than 2-3 times a month. Sometimes I'm more careful about what I order and other times I don't care.2
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I can't do "cheat meals". It puts me in a bad head space and pretty soon I always want to "cheat". Eating that way is what caused me to be here to begin with...I'd only be cheating myself if I do that.
I do have one or two days a week sometimes that I eat at maintenance, though. 9 times out of 10 it's if I go get takeout, or desserts. Lately it's been DQ blizzards!3 -
I don't consider them "cheat meals", but I do have a couple of meals during the week that I eat because they are delicious and I want them rather than that they are "healthy". If I want a huge, cheesy bowl of pasta for dinner, for example, I'll make sure breakfast and lunch are lighter, and have adequate protein. And I weigh and track everything so I know exactly how much I'm eating. I'll also do the odd maintenance day if I am starving, as it's easier to fit in a 1000 calorie mega meal without going totally overboard if I'm allowed 2000 over the course of the day.2
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To me a cheat meal = no calorie counting and it’s clearly going to put me significantly above even maintenance calories. I do this maybe once a month. LASAGNA is a good one. Or I have this recipe for a taco crockpot casserole and I bake cornbread into the top of it and load with cheese.3
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To me a cheat meal means it has to be against the plan and take me above maintenance for the day. If it's a day that I'm running 4-5 miles and I have a slice of cake that fits within the above average burn, it's in the plan. If I eat lighter in the day to compensate, it's in the plan. Even if it's unplanned, but the consequences is that I went from a deficit to maintenance, then all it does is delay the weight loss but doesn't make me go backwards in my progress.2
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I can give you some good advice on this one. Yes, I have one cheat meal when I eat out and still lose weight or maintain. However, that meal is reasonable. Example.. a small filet, baked potato, caesar salad and some wine...and a piece of bread.
However, I've pushed it.. eating junk food and for more than one meal. Example: fries, cheeseburger..pizza.. pasta. No.. that DID NOT work for me.
It is personal.. for me.. I can stay true to my eating all week..knowing I can enjoy a reasonable dinner out with my husband. It keeps me from falling off the wagon.0 -
DylanSaffa wrote: »Interesting seeing that there is generally a consensus against the typical cheat meal like what Dwayne Johnson does. And I agree. If you know you're wanting a big burger with desert for dinner, have a light breakfast and possibly no lunch.
Dwayne Johnson's plan works because his training and the meals he eats during the rest of the week result in him hitting the calories he needs to maintain his desired weight overall, even with the "cheat meal."
It's not that his body doesn't process the calories in that meal, it's that he's still hitting his overall goals. A "cheat meal" will work for anyone in those circumstances.
If he found himself gaining unwanted weight, I'm betting he'd quickly address it -- either by reducing his consumption the rest of the week or eating less during that "cheat meal."0 -
I cheat with my husband 😄 It isn't though he takes me on a date once a week and we have two favs one I get a chicken philly with a small fry and the other the best cheesestick calzones. It is just fun for us and it really doesn't change anything other then water weight the next day or two. All foods for me are good but I don't want raw or alcohol pretty easy to do 🍓
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