Give Me Your Best Weight Loss Advice

JustaNoob
JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
edited February 2021 in Health and Weight Loss
Putting myself out here because I really want to be successful at losing weight. I feel like I have been on a diet every other day for 18 years with very little to show for it and don't want to continue on this cycle. I've done a lot of different things, both on the extreme end and the moderate end.

I feel like I am either eating 1200 calories a day and binging on the weekends, or I am eating 1800 calories consistently and not losing anything. Can you please look at my stats/info below and give your best advice/plan?

Stats:
Age: 34
Female
Weight: 247lbs
Height:5'6
Very Sedentary-- Work 10 hours a day sitting, M-F
Not super active when I get home either.

Exercise:
I currently dance in my apartment for 30 mins 2-3x's per week consistently.
Inconsistently, I lift weights and go for walks.

Goals:
Lose 100lbs
Minimize as much muscle loss as possible in the process

Health Issues:
Diagnosed as slightly insulin resistant (If I am not careful, I will become prediabetic)
Some knee pains, sometimes

Tools I have:
Food Scale
Apple Watch
Internet/Access to Youtube
Gym with all of the basics for weight lifting, walking, and elliptical.
Access to a walking path at my apartment and close to my work.


Struggles:
My biggest struggle is night-time eating and too many sweets. I keep trying to be a "normal" moderate person and allow for sweets in moderation, but in all honesty I end up eating them all up in a night.

I also struggle with not being prepared and grabbing food on the go. Some weeks my meal prep is on point, other weeks I don't do so well... or just straight up hate the food I cooked lol.



Okay... I think that is as much detail as I can think of that would be helpful. Ask me anything else you need.
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  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    edited February 2021
    without opening your diary, we can not give specific advice.

    if you are binging you are likely undoing any good you HAVE been doing.

    Some people are able to moderate, some are not. if you can not, do not buy the foods you cant control yourself around. I don't buy peanut butter cups or the nutterbutter cookes (the wafer kind). I will eat it all in one sitting. most things, I can control.

    I have sweets of SOME kind almost every day. I make room for them and log them. Oreos are my favorite. If you look in my diary, you will see 3 oreos on the agenda for tonight

    I did have a week or two when I did not log due to power outages and a back injury (if you go past a couple of days you will see my logging stop for a bit) but go back further and its there. Complete with bedtime cookies ;) I lose weight consistently and am in no hurry to lose (I lost 130 pounds, maintained for 3 years and then regained about 50 over the past year). I typically eat around 1400/1500 calories. I work out 3-4 times per week and am relatively sedentary otherwise (despite the fact I live on a farm LOL)

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  • L1zardQueen
    L1zardQueen Posts: 8,753 Member
    Patience will be key for you.
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    @callsitlikeiseeit Unfortunately, my diary won't show you much because I just started on MyFitnessPal-- I was using a different app before. I did log as accurately as possible-- slacking on weighing just for low cal things.
  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,053 Member
    My best advice: take the time and make the effort to determine the appropriate and sustainable deficit and calorie intake for you. (Quiksylver gives amazingly good advice for this.) Everyone knows overeating works against fat loss, but seriously, under-eating is an express ticket to failure. Under-eating does not get enough recognition for how much it undermines fat loss. It's counter productive in a number of ways, but you have already mentioned one big one -- binging. Dialing in the right caloric intake will make your path easier and more successful long term.
  • JohnBarth
    JohnBarth Posts: 672 Member
    Be consistent. Don't beat yourself up. Keep moving forward.
  • joanna_82
    joanna_82 Posts: 151 Member
    My best advice; set your rate of weight loss to the lowest possible rate and enjoy a nice slow steady weight loss and create some healthy happy habits around food that you can take forward for the rest of your life.
    Weight loss is not a quick fix, it’s a change for life and you need time to put better habits in place.
    Keep the faith, don’t panic if they scale doesn’t drop quickly, as long as you’ve stuck to your calories weight loss will happen.

    Coming from someone who set a 0.5lb weight loss/week rate this time last year and have managed to stick to it, change my habits and still enjoy cooking and eating. ☺️
  • loonylovegood0715
    loonylovegood0715 Posts: 100 Member
    As someone who is also working to eliminate bingeing from my life, I have found that after a 5 month attempt to stay at 1200 cals or less a few years ago made it worse! I know everyone´s mind works differently, but personally cutting my calories that much made me feel suffocated and 10x worse every time I gave in to the urge, because it was such an up-and-down lifestyle that threw my mind and body into chaos.
    In January of this year I decided to jump back on the wagon. I started at about 1600 calories per day and currently have my diary set to 1440 calories/day (weird number, I know). The best thing you could do is start at a very relaxed deficit, and over the course of a few weeks gradually reduce to your goal deficit, whatever that may be (depends on your activity, age, height, etc.). Patience is my worst virtue, but playing the long game has proved (for me) to be a much more effective and much less damaging way to overcome bingeing!
    Please feel free to add me, I'm always looking for new friends.
    Happy Tuesday! (:
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    without opening your diary, we can not give specific advice.

    if you are binging you are likely undoing any good you HAVE been doing.

    Some people are able to moderate, some are not. if you can not, do not buy the foods you cant control yourself around. I don't buy peanut butter cups or the nutterbutter cookes (the wafer kind). I will eat it all in one sitting. most things, I can control.

    I have sweets of SOME kind almost every day. I make room for them and log them. Oreos are my favorite. If you look in my diary, you will see 3 oreos on the agenda for tonight

    I did have a week or two when I did not log due to power outages and a back injury (if you go past a couple of days you will see my logging stop for a bit) but go back further and its there. Complete with bedtime cookies ;) I lose weight consistently and am in no hurry to lose (I lost 130 pounds, maintained for 3 years and then regained about 50 over the past year). I typically eat around 1400/1500 calories. I work out 3-4 times per week and am relatively sedentary otherwise (despite the fact I live on a farm LOL)

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    Super helpful! And congrats on 130 weight loss.
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    JustaNoob wrote: »

    I feel like I am either eating 1200 calories a day and binging on the weekends, or I am eating 1800 calories consistently and not losing anything. Can you please look at my stats/info below and give your best advice/plan?

    For how long have you consistently eaten at 1800 calories and not binged?

    Here's my advice for what's it's worth. Eat at 1800 for 3-4 weeks. If that's successful with no binging, drop to 1700 calories for 3-4 weeks. If that's successful with no binging, drop to 1600 calories for 3-4 weeks. Continue this until you feel too deprived and/or binge. If you have a binge, go back to the last calorie amount you were successful eating at and hang out there. You will lose more slowly, but you will lose.

    Also, I would try to get some consistent exercise in. Can you commit to a 15 minute walk every day? The more you move, the better. It doesn't have to be hard core exercise, just move more.

    Last April-July, I ate at 1800 and didn't binge... but then I didn't lose. So then I tried going lower and got really impatient. I tend to have some hindsight bias and feel like I am working so hard, that when I don't get results I get discouraged.

    I like the approach of taking it down little by little and can definitely add 15 minutes of exercise.
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    You almost definitely don't need to be restricting to 1200 calories. The people who actually need to eat that little in order to maintain a safe, sustainable calorie deficit are little old ladies with five pounds to lose who spend all day watching Maury and do no appreciable exercise whatsoever.

    Go through the guided setup again, set it to lose 1lb per week and mark yourself Sedentary. Log your intentional exercise and eat those calories back, to keep your net intake at whatever level the app sets for you. For context, I'm three inches shorter than you and five pounds lighter, and my budget is 1990 net calories per day.

    Thanks... what about maintaining muscle? I saw a video where people who have dieted for a long time often have slower metabolism because they lose so much muscle over time. My fear is that some of my crash dieting mistakes of the past has lead to muscle loss and therefore slower metabolism.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Don't be impatient, focus on building positive habits as much as the numbers.
    If your habits support your goal the numbers will come to you more easily. Don't go out of your way to make losing weight harder and more hateful - think about making it easier even if that means longer.

    As much as possible don't be very sedentary at work, build as much movement into your day as you can. What do you do in your breaks?
    If you look at people who maintain at goal weight long term you will probably notice they typically move more than your average person.

    Don't be inactive when you get home as that might well be contributing to boredom eating - "my biggest struggle is night-time eating and too many sweets." Do something you enjoy that occupies your mind and even better if that gets you up on your feet as well.

    Really have a deep think about excuses you might make - you will know those excuses better than anyone and when you confront yourself over them you might find they aren't such a big hurdle after all.
    e.g. "I also struggle with not being prepared and grabbing food on the go" - food on the go has a huge range of choices and calories. Make those choices, read the labels and don't use it as an excuse to grab something high calorie.
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    Don't be impatient, focus on building positive habits as much as the numbers.
    If your habits support your goal the numbers will come to you more easily. Don't go out of your way to make losing weight harder and more hateful - think about making it easier even if that means longer.

    As much as possible don't be very sedentary at work, build as much movement into your day as you can. What do you do in your breaks?
    If you look at people who maintain at goal weight long term you will probably notice they typically move more than your average person.

    Don't be inactive when you get home as that might well be contributing to boredom eating - "my biggest struggle is night-time eating and too many sweets." Do something you enjoy that occupies your mind and even better if that gets you up on your feet as well.

    Really have a deep think about excuses you might make - you will know those excuses better than anyone and when you confront yourself over them you might find they aren't such a big hurdle after all.
    e.g. "I also struggle with not being prepared and grabbing food on the go" - food on the go has a huge range of choices and calories. Make those choices, read the labels and don't use it as an excuse to grab something high calorie.

    Great insights. I can do more and move more and being inactive probably does contribute to my night time eating.

    Also, I think the older I get, the more excuses I have! I really struggle between two extremes-- one being catering to my excuses and the other, trying to fight against the excuses in unrealistic ways.
  • wunderkindking
    wunderkindking Posts: 1,615 Member
    edited February 2021
    Short and sweet:

    Give yourself a calorie RANGE, rather than lock in on one number and take breaks where you eat at maintenance every so often.
  • cindis6943
    cindis6943 Posts: 2 Member
    I am 58 years old, and work out hard 7 days a week. I still have 55lbs to lose but to lose I have to not only work out hard 6-7 days a week, I have to restrict my calories to under 1400. The TDEE chart says I should be eating 2500, I would gain weight quickly. I have around 90lbs of muscle which is high for my 5.4 frame. I am post-menopause, 58, with a thyroid condition. I have tried ALL diets, the only thing that works for me is less than 1400 cal a day, and exercise 60-90 min a day 6 to 7 days a week. I enter everything that goes in my mouth into my fitness tracker. I have lost 13lbs since Jan1.
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    lgfrie wrote: »
    First. you are not not losing weight on 1800 calories. TDEEcalculator.net says your maintenance level is 2205. So you are eating more than you think you're eating; you'd lose almost a pound a week on 1800. Step 1, tighten up the weighing, counting, and logging. You need to have solid, accurate knowledge of how many calories your consuming, and, for what it's worth, the formulas out there suggest that currently you're underestimating by quite a lot.

    Couple of suggestions.

    - don't think in terms of 100 pounds. Just focus on losing a pound this week, or 4-5 pounds this month, or other simple, doable goal that you can give yourself a gold star for achieving in the near-term. You'd be amazed how actually achieving a modest, short term goal can increase confidence and lead to more success, but first you have to get that "I have to lose 100 pounds" voice out of your head.

    - trying to have 1200 calorie days and then gorging on snacks as night is classic binge and restrict behavior. It never ends in a good place. Binge-and-restricters rarely lose that 100 pounds and NEVER keep it off. Go to the MFP Goals tool, enter your age, gender, height, weight, and 1 lb per week as the goal, or if you reallllly want to be ambitious 1.5 pounds per week. However many calories it tells you to eat, eat that many, not less, not more. For you, at your TDEE as per TDEEcalculator.net, it'll probably be right around 1450 for 1.5 lbs per week and 1700 for 1 lb per week, and either will give you a much better chance of success than 1200. 1200 is not enough food for most people, especially people who like to eat and have a habit of overeating. No wonder you are binging at night, you are not getting enough food.

    - maybe save yourself 100 or 150 calories for eating at night, and get yourself some snacks that are pretty good but not great, which fall into those caloric parameters. Something in between "chocolate cake" and "carrot sticks". Then throw out or donate all the junky snacks you love and can't resist. You can't eat what isn't there. For me, I got rid of allllll the cookies and ice cream and chips, and replaced it with things like 130 calorie packs of goldfish and 100 cal packs of popcorn. I like those, but I don't crave them, so I tend not to binge them.

    - don't take off days, cheat meals, etc., for a while. Later on, when you're on a solid footing and have 10 or 20 pounds in the rear view mirror, sure. For right now, just focus on living within that MFP calorie target every day.

    -100lbs is DEFINITELY overwhelming. I am motivated by checking off lists, so maybe bite sized portions would be better. I have tried this in the past, but my weight fluctuates so much that until I get 15lbs under my belt, it is hard to see if I am really making progress. Probably just sticking it through until I find my stride will be helpful.

    -I'll go back through my settings and see what number it gives me. I've changed it so many times that I don't know what on earth my methodology was.

    -I agree with the off days and cheat meals. I realllly need a win! I am super tired of losing and gaining 5lbs every week.
  • thelastnightingale
    thelastnightingale Posts: 725 Member
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    Putting myself out here because I really want to be successful at losing weight. I feel like I have been on a diet every other day for 18 years with very little to show for it and don't want to continue on this cycle. I've done a lot of different things, both on the extreme end and the moderate end.

    What do you think went wrong? It's not nice to dwell on what we think are our failures, but if you've tried to manage your weight for 18 years, you have lots of insightful information on what doesn't work for you. Unpick that information and build it into your plan now.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    I feel like I am either eating 1200 calories a day and binging on the weekends, or I am eating 1800 calories consistently and not losing anything. Can you please look at my stats/info below and give your best advice/plan?

    With your height and weight, 1,200 is too low. Your body cannot cope with so little fuel consistently, setting you up to binge and go overboard. You want to eat less than you burn, and you don't want or need the gap to be massive.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    I currently dance in my apartment for 30 mins 2-3x's per week consistently.
    Inconsistently, I lift weights and go for walks.

    Do you like any of this? You could just focus on a better diet and build in exercise later. Is the inconsistency because you don't enjoy it?
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    Lose 100lbs

    You can do it. Break this up into smaller milestones though; you'll feel better for having the victories along the way.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    Diagnosed as slightly insulin resistant (If I am not careful, I will become prediabetic)
    Some knee pains, sometimes

    So, time to prioritise your heath. Great stuff.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    Tools I have:
    Food Scale
    Apple Watch
    Internet/Access to Youtube
    Gym with all of the basics for weight lifting, walking, and elliptical.
    Access to a walking path at my apartment and close to my work.

    I'll be honest, the food scale is your main tool of choice.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    Struggles:
    My biggest struggle is night-time eating and too many sweets. I keep trying to be a "normal" moderate person and allow for sweets in moderation, but in all honesty I end up eating them all up in a night.

    If you really like sweets, and you are going to eat sweets later, cut your calories during the day so you have calories left for the sweets. Weight loss = calories out < calories in. Yes, there are healthier, more balanced ways to do it. But don't try to overhaul your lifestyle overnight. Take small steps.

    Work on cutting your calorie intake to a sustainable level. Your calorie intake can include 'unhealthy' things if you really like them that much. Over time, you can start to switch out some foods for ones with better macros. Make calories your initial goal. Like I said, small steps. Change takes time.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    I also struggle with not being prepared and grabbing food on the go. Some weeks my meal prep is on point, other weeks I don't do so well... or just straight up hate the food I cooked lol.

    That's an issue. If you're grabbing food on the go, you need to know what is the best value for calorie option at any of the places you frequent. Otherwise, you'll sabotage yourself. You also need to work at making food you actually like!
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,225 Member
    edited February 2021
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    (snip)
    Struggles:
    My biggest struggle is night-time eating and too many sweets. I keep trying to be a "normal" moderate person and allow for sweets in moderation, but in all honesty I end up eating them all up in a night.

    Save some calories for evening snacks, or consider whether your evening snacking is about something else.

    Common examples:

    * Inadequate sleep. Fatigue increases sweets cravings for most of us, and hits more toward the end of the day, can reduce ability to resist impulses.
    * Stress. This also increases fatigue, plus calorie deficit increases physical stress so compounds the problem. If stress is high, seek non-food stress-management strategies (exercise, aromatherapy bubblebaths, meditation, journaling, prayer, whatever).
    * Habit. Better to find a new non-food habit to replace the old one, not try to white-knuckle through.
    * Boredom. Consider resuming an old hobby, or starting a new one; bonus points if it requires clean hands (needlework, sketching, musical instrument) or creates dirty ones (gardening, painting, carpentry).

    If the problem isn't really hunger, the solution isn't food.

    If your IR lets you eat fruits, consider trying to consistently eat several fruit servings daily for a few weeks. This is not universally helpful, but it's advice I got from a registered dietitian that worked well for me to reduce cravings for simpler sweets like candy, baked goods, etc. I've seen others here say it helped them, too. Could be worth a try.
    I also struggle with not being prepared and grabbing food on the go. Some weeks my meal prep is on point, other weeks I don't do so well... or just straight up hate the food I cooked lol.

    Brainstorm a list of foods you enjoy that require no prep. Ideally, some of them will be shelf stable. For meals at home, it could be commercial prepared frozen or shelf-stable packet meals. It could include pick-up snack foods like hardboiled eggs, 2% milk string cheese, whole-grain calorie-efficient breads (can be frozen), calorie-limited packs of nuts or soynuts, etc. Keep some of those brainstormed foods on hand all the time.

    When you do cook, make a big batch & freeze some meals (or components, like cooked whole grains or beans or meat) for later use.

    If you fall for fast foods under these circumstances, take a good hard look at the online menus of the ones near you (or near your work, etc.). Identify calorie-efficient, nutritious options, and keep that list with you. Most of the chains will sell you pieces (burger patty with no bun, for example). You can use those as part of a meal solution. Some of the chains have options in their online menus that don't show up on the menu board, or have calculators where you can mix and match parts to make a better overall meal choice. (Taco Bell has both of those options via their web site, for example.)

    Figure out how to game your limitations/struggles, exploit your strengths and preferences.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    You almost definitely don't need to be restricting to 1200 calories. The people who actually need to eat that little in order to maintain a safe, sustainable calorie deficit are little old ladies with five pounds to lose who spend all day watching Maury and do no appreciable exercise whatsoever.

    Go through the guided setup again, set it to lose 1lb per week and mark yourself Sedentary. Log your intentional exercise and eat those calories back, to keep your net intake at whatever level the app sets for you. For context, I'm three inches shorter than you and five pounds lighter, and my budget is 1990 net calories per day.

    Thanks... what about maintaining muscle? I saw a video where people who have dieted for a long time often have slower metabolism because they lose so much muscle over time. My fear is that some of my crash dieting mistakes of the past has lead to muscle loss and therefore slower metabolism.

    If you've already lost muscle, that's water under the bridge, right? Forget about that, can't change the past, not worth hand-wringing about.

    Now, you can do strength exercise to avoid losing more, and maybe even slowly add some muscle over the long haul. Get adequate protein, and general good nutrition, to support that.

    Going forward, part of the way you prevent more muscle loss is by losing weight sensibly slowly, getting adequate nutrition while you do it. That, plus becoming more active and strong, is how you "repair your metabolism". (Mostly, it's not actually entirely literally metabolism in practice, but that's how people talk about it.🙄 It can include some metabolic functions, but also subconscious fatigue effects and habitual inactivity.)

    As you lose weight, you'll find it's easier and more fun to add movement to your day . . . not just exercise, but increased daily activity of all sorts. Do that, consciously. Attack home projects, volunteer to help friends/neighbors with stuff, cook from scratch (it's movement, not just food), etc. Move while you wait for the dinner to microwave, while you brush your teeth, on your breaks at work. Just move more. Research suggests fidgety people burn a couple hundred or more extra calories daily, compared to very non-fidgety ones. I'm not suggesting you try to fidget, just saying that tiny changes add up.
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    steveko89 wrote: »
    Disclaimer up front: Not a doctor, formally trained or have any credentials in health & fitness. Basically some dude on the internet who considers themselves at least reasonably well-versed in a common-sense approach to weight management and fitness.

    I'm going to try and break things up to cover everything you laid out and put my overall recommendations at the end.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    My biggest struggle is night-time eating and too many sweets. I keep trying to be a "normal" moderate person and allow for sweets in moderation, but in all honesty I end up eating them all up in a night.

    I've struggled with this sort of thing a few times and the best way to break the habit is to remove/avoid the decision point where you keep finding yourself making the choice you don't like.
    - At one point I noticed I was torpedoing my progress by getting too many things out the vending machines at work, purely out of boredom. At the time the machines were cash/change only... so I stopped having cash on me. Eventually they added credit card readers to the machines but I'd curbed that habit such that it's not a high risk for me anymore.
    - My wife and I are both big snackers if left to our own devices. We started keeping each other accountable to the kinds of things we bought at the store and kept in the house. It made a world of difference to how much we would snack. Again, we mitigated the habit to a point where it's not a calorie bonanza if one of us buys a pack of oreos or she makes a batch of cookies.
    *Generally, the solution I've found is to start with restriction while training yourself to tolerate moderation for the long term.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    I also struggle with not being prepared and grabbing food on the go. Some weeks my meal prep is on point, other weeks I don't do so well... or just straight up hate the food I cooked lol.

    I am a HUGE fan of pre-logging as much as humanly possible. I also LOATHE leftovers so traditional meal prepping/batch cooking just makes me sad. The balance I've found is that I pre-log my day the night before. It starts with planning dinner with my wife so we can take something out of the freezer, etc. Once I know what's for dinner I can adjust the rest of the day to hit my macros accordingly. Breakfast, lunch, and snacks are usually some combination of protein shakes, portable fruit, or reasonable pre-packaged snacks (especially during the week). Is it ideal? Probably not but it's what I've found that works for me and is way better than what I find myself doing if I don't plan. It will surely take some iteration but figuring out what works for you and fits your definition of "good enough" will be a valuable learning process.

    Given the difficulty in accurately measuring exercise burn I'm partial to the TDEE model vs. MFP's NEAT+Exercise model. I've found good accuracy with Tdeecalculator.net with my own data. Given the stats you provided your maintenance level is likely somewhere in the 2200-2300 cal/day range.
    *Source: https://tdeecalculator.net/result.php?s=imperial&g=female&age=34&lbs=247&in=66&act=1.2&f=1

    Based on some recent data from RP and their RP Diet app, the most successful dieters in their user base favored a loss rate of ~0.6% body weight per week lost, aka a starting loss rate for you of just over 1.5 lbs/week (750 cal/day deficit). For round numbers let's say your maintenance level is 2250 so to achieve a 1.5 lb/week loss set your goal at 1500 cal/day and see how that goes for about 6 weeks and re-evaluate based on your loss rate and adherence.

    For macros, get 0.6-0.8 g protein/lb and treat that as a minimum rather than a limit so long as other macros aren't being neglected. Fat should be ~15-30% of your total calories and then you get the rest of your calories for carbs. Consider shooting for a +/- 15% range on macros and don't give too much thought to days you're a little off. You can drive yourself crazy obsessing on hitting the perfect macros.

    A moderate loss rate and sufficient protein should help you hold on to muscle as you lose, though getting some resistance training in certainly won't hurt. The best workout program is the one you'll execute consistently. If you don't enjoy it, you probably won't do it (I know that's been the case for me).

    As far as other tips are concerned:
    - log everything as accurately and honestly as possible. Even if you have a day you're way over your target, the data is valuable to have.
    - weight yourself daily and use a trending app like HappyScale to monitor your progress. You will see water weight spikes and general noise in your data. I've found nothing else to be as reassuring as seeing those ebbs and flows to really believe them to be true.
    - Foster a positive relationship with food. There are no good/bad foods just recognize there are certain things you're probably not going to be able enjoy without consequence when restricting calories. There aren't any demon foods that will prevent you from losing weight, only quantities.
    - It's less about motivation and more about habit and discipline. Do what you can to refine your process to remove obstacle and set yourself up for what you define as success. Plan meals, lay out workout clothes, block out gym time in your calendar, etc.
    - Have patience and be kind to yourself. Losing 100 lbs is going to take some time and weight loss is never linear. You will have days you don't feel like following your plan, getting in a workout, etc. Avoid any sort of time limit or deadline and don't shy away from shifting to maintenance for a diet break if you start to feel some burnout. It's always better to hit pause than totally throw in the towel. Sustainability and consistency are going to be what gets you where you want to go, not some shortcut or fad diet. Get good at executing the basics and rest will get easier as you go.

    Thank you! All of this was really helpful to read through. I was curious about the muscle loss and if eating protein/ enough calories would help me to keep some of what I have, so this answered my question.

    I definitely will need some diet breaks. I think I've just always been afraid to lose momentum or not to seize the moments and so I kinda spent my wheels when I should have taken breaks.

    I also really like your idea about removing obstacles because in the moment, I don't always want to do what I should and just having some things ready can make decisions easier.
  • PapillonNoire
    PapillonNoire Posts: 76 Member
    The biggest game changer for me was increasing my NEAT. I do very little purposeful exercise, but I try to move a lot throughout the day. I have a desk job, but I'll walk around the room while I'm on calls and get up and jog in place throughout the day. Instead of bringing a large water bottle with me to my office, I'll make frequent trips downstairs to get small glasses of water. It all adds up- according to my fitbit those changes ended up adding an extra 300-400 calories burned per day on average.

    I also do not keep any snacks in my house that I can't eat in moderation (i.e. Oreos).
  • steveko89
    steveko89 Posts: 2,223 Member
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    steveko89 wrote: »
    Disclaimer up front: Not a doctor, formally trained or have any credentials in health & fitness. Basically some dude on the internet who considers themselves at least reasonably well-versed in a common-sense approach to weight management and fitness.

    I'm going to try and break things up to cover everything you laid out and put my overall recommendations at the end.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    My biggest struggle is night-time eating and too many sweets. I keep trying to be a "normal" moderate person and allow for sweets in moderation, but in all honesty I end up eating them all up in a night.

    I've struggled with this sort of thing a few times and the best way to break the habit is to remove/avoid the decision point where you keep finding yourself making the choice you don't like.
    - At one point I noticed I was torpedoing my progress by getting too many things out the vending machines at work, purely out of boredom. At the time the machines were cash/change only... so I stopped having cash on me. Eventually they added credit card readers to the machines but I'd curbed that habit such that it's not a high risk for me anymore.
    - My wife and I are both big snackers if left to our own devices. We started keeping each other accountable to the kinds of things we bought at the store and kept in the house. It made a world of difference to how much we would snack. Again, we mitigated the habit to a point where it's not a calorie bonanza if one of us buys a pack of oreos or she makes a batch of cookies.
    *Generally, the solution I've found is to start with restriction while training yourself to tolerate moderation for the long term.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    I also struggle with not being prepared and grabbing food on the go. Some weeks my meal prep is on point, other weeks I don't do so well... or just straight up hate the food I cooked lol.

    I am a HUGE fan of pre-logging as much as humanly possible. I also LOATHE leftovers so traditional meal prepping/batch cooking just makes me sad. The balance I've found is that I pre-log my day the night before. It starts with planning dinner with my wife so we can take something out of the freezer, etc. Once I know what's for dinner I can adjust the rest of the day to hit my macros accordingly. Breakfast, lunch, and snacks are usually some combination of protein shakes, portable fruit, or reasonable pre-packaged snacks (especially during the week). Is it ideal? Probably not but it's what I've found that works for me and is way better than what I find myself doing if I don't plan. It will surely take some iteration but figuring out what works for you and fits your definition of "good enough" will be a valuable learning process.

    Given the difficulty in accurately measuring exercise burn I'm partial to the TDEE model vs. MFP's NEAT+Exercise model. I've found good accuracy with Tdeecalculator.net with my own data. Given the stats you provided your maintenance level is likely somewhere in the 2200-2300 cal/day range.
    *Source: https://tdeecalculator.net/result.php?s=imperial&g=female&age=34&lbs=247&in=66&act=1.2&f=1

    Based on some recent data from RP and their RP Diet app, the most successful dieters in their user base favored a loss rate of ~0.6% body weight per week lost, aka a starting loss rate for you of just over 1.5 lbs/week (750 cal/day deficit). For round numbers let's say your maintenance level is 2250 so to achieve a 1.5 lb/week loss set your goal at 1500 cal/day and see how that goes for about 6 weeks and re-evaluate based on your loss rate and adherence.

    For macros, get 0.6-0.8 g protein/lb and treat that as a minimum rather than a limit so long as other macros aren't being neglected. Fat should be ~15-30% of your total calories and then you get the rest of your calories for carbs. Consider shooting for a +/- 15% range on macros and don't give too much thought to days you're a little off. You can drive yourself crazy obsessing on hitting the perfect macros.

    A moderate loss rate and sufficient protein should help you hold on to muscle as you lose, though getting some resistance training in certainly won't hurt. The best workout program is the one you'll execute consistently. If you don't enjoy it, you probably won't do it (I know that's been the case for me).

    As far as other tips are concerned:
    - log everything as accurately and honestly as possible. Even if you have a day you're way over your target, the data is valuable to have.
    - weight yourself daily and use a trending app like HappyScale to monitor your progress. You will see water weight spikes and general noise in your data. I've found nothing else to be as reassuring as seeing those ebbs and flows to really believe them to be true.
    - Foster a positive relationship with food. There are no good/bad foods just recognize there are certain things you're probably not going to be able enjoy without consequence when restricting calories. There aren't any demon foods that will prevent you from losing weight, only quantities.
    - It's less about motivation and more about habit and discipline. Do what you can to refine your process to remove obstacle and set yourself up for what you define as success. Plan meals, lay out workout clothes, block out gym time in your calendar, etc.
    - Have patience and be kind to yourself. Losing 100 lbs is going to take some time and weight loss is never linear. You will have days you don't feel like following your plan, getting in a workout, etc. Avoid any sort of time limit or deadline and don't shy away from shifting to maintenance for a diet break if you start to feel some burnout. It's always better to hit pause than totally throw in the towel. Sustainability and consistency are going to be what gets you where you want to go, not some shortcut or fad diet. Get good at executing the basics and rest will get easier as you go.

    Thank you! All of this was really helpful to read through. I was curious about the muscle loss and if eating protein/ enough calories would help me to keep some of what I have, so this answered my question.

    I definitely will need some diet breaks. I think I've just always been afraid to lose momentum or not to seize the moments and so I kinda spent my wheels when I should have taken breaks.

    I also really like your idea about removing obstacles because in the moment, I don't always want to do what I should and just having some things ready can make decisions easier.

    No problem, glad I could help. You got some other really good advice in the time I saw your initial post and drafted up this wall of text. Good luck and feel free to add me as a friend and/or shoot me a DM any time.
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    Putting myself out here because I really want to be successful at losing weight. I feel like I have been on a diet every other day for 18 years with very little to show for it and don't want to continue on this cycle. I've done a lot of different things, both on the extreme end and the moderate end.

    What do you think went wrong? It's not nice to dwell on what we think are our failures, but if you've tried to manage your weight for 18 years, you have lots of insightful information on what doesn't work for you. Unpick that information and build it into your plan now.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    I feel like I am either eating 1200 calories a day and binging on the weekends, or I am eating 1800 calories consistently and not losing anything. Can you please look at my stats/info below and give your best advice/plan?

    With your height and weight, 1,200 is too low. Your body cannot cope with so little fuel consistently, setting you up to binge and go overboard. You want to eat less than you burn, and you don't want or need the gap to be massive.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    I currently dance in my apartment for 30 mins 2-3x's per week consistently.
    Inconsistently, I lift weights and go for walks.

    Do you like any of this? You could just focus on a better diet and build in exercise later. Is the inconsistency because you don't enjoy it?
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    Lose 100lbs

    You can do it. Break this up into smaller milestones though; you'll feel better for having the victories along the way.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    Diagnosed as slightly insulin resistant (If I am not careful, I will become prediabetic)
    Some knee pains, sometimes

    So, time to prioritise your heath. Great stuff.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    Tools I have:
    Food Scale
    Apple Watch
    Internet/Access to Youtube
    Gym with all of the basics for weight lifting, walking, and elliptical.
    Access to a walking path at my apartment and close to my work.

    I'll be honest, the food scale is your main tool of choice.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    Struggles:
    My biggest struggle is night-time eating and too many sweets. I keep trying to be a "normal" moderate person and allow for sweets in moderation, but in all honesty I end up eating them all up in a night.

    If you really like sweets, and you are going to eat sweets later, cut your calories during the day so you have calories left for the sweets. Weight loss = calories out < calories in. Yes, there are healthier, more balanced ways to do it. But don't try to overhaul your lifestyle overnight. Take small steps.

    Work on cutting your calorie intake to a sustainable level. Your calorie intake can include 'unhealthy' things if you really like them that much. Over time, you can start to switch out some foods for ones with better macros. Make calories your initial goal. Like I said, small steps. Change takes time.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    I also struggle with not being prepared and grabbing food on the go. Some weeks my meal prep is on point, other weeks I don't do so well... or just straight up hate the food I cooked lol.

    That's an issue. If you're grabbing food on the go, you need to know what is the best value for calorie option at any of the places you frequent. Otherwise, you'll sabotage yourself. You also need to work at making food you actually like!

    I think a big thing that has gone wrong is maybe switching things up too much. I get really in my head over developing the PERFECT plan, and make excuses to hop to other plans. I just need to follow through... I get really in my head over what plan is the best. I am a fantastic planner.... but not so much a great follow through-er.

    I do enjoy walking but I HATE the cold. I enjoy lifting if I have the gym to myself. I am mainly concerned with the sweets because I'm a little insulin resistant and notice some big swings in my blood sugars. I find that if I balance a sugar out with a protein, I am unaffected.
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    (snip)
    Struggles:
    My biggest struggle is night-time eating and too many sweets. I keep trying to be a "normal" moderate person and allow for sweets in moderation, but in all honesty I end up eating them all up in a night.

    Save some calories for evening snacks, or consider whether your evening snacking is about something else.

    Common examples:

    * Inadequate sleep. Fatigue increases sweets cravings for most of us, and hits more toward the end of the day, can reduce ability to resist impulses.
    * Stress. This also increases fatigue, plus calorie deficit increases physical stress so compounds the problem. If stress is high, seek non-food stress-management strategies (exercise, aromatherapy bubblebaths, meditation, journaling, prayer, whatever).
    * Habit. Better to find a new non-food habit to replace the old one, not try to white-knuckle through.
    * Boredom. Consider resuming an old hobby, or starting a new one; bonus points if it requires clean hands (needlework, sketching, musical instrument) or creates dirty ones (gardening, painting, carpentry).

    If the problem isn't really hunger, the solution isn't food.

    If your IR lets you eat fruits, consider trying to consistently eat several fruit servings daily for a few weeks. This is not universally helpful, but it's advice I got from a registered dietitian that worked well for me to reduce cravings for simpler sweets like candy, baked goods, etc. I've seen others here say it helped them, too. Could be worth a try.
    I also struggle with not being prepared and grabbing food on the go. Some weeks my meal prep is on point, other weeks I don't do so well... or just straight up hate the food I cooked lol.

    Brainstorm a list of foods you enjoy that require no prep. Ideally, some of them will be shelf stable. For meals at home, it could be commercial prepared frozen or shelf-stable packet meals. It could include pick-up snack foods like hardboiled eggs, 2% milk string cheese, whole-grain calorie-efficient breads (can be frozen), calorie-limited packs of nuts or soynuts, etc. Keep some of those brainstormed foods on hand all the time.

    When you do cook, make a big batch & freeze some meals (or components, like cooked whole grains or beans or meat) for later use.

    If you fall for fast foods under these circumstances, take a good hard look at the online menus of the ones near you (or near your work, etc.). Identify calorie-efficient, nutritious options, and keep that list with you. Most of the chains will sell you pieces (burger patty with no bun, for example). You can use those as part of a meal solution. Some of the chains have options in their online menus that don't show up on the menu board, or have calculators where you can mix and match parts to make a better overall meal choice. (Taco Bell has both of those options via their web site, for example.)

    Figure out how to game your limitations/struggles, exploit your strengths and preferences.
    JustaNoob wrote: »
    You almost definitely don't need to be restricting to 1200 calories. The people who actually need to eat that little in order to maintain a safe, sustainable calorie deficit are little old ladies with five pounds to lose who spend all day watching Maury and do no appreciable exercise whatsoever.

    Go through the guided setup again, set it to lose 1lb per week and mark yourself Sedentary. Log your intentional exercise and eat those calories back, to keep your net intake at whatever level the app sets for you. For context, I'm three inches shorter than you and five pounds lighter, and my budget is 1990 net calories per day.

    Thanks... what about maintaining muscle? I saw a video where people who have dieted for a long time often have slower metabolism because they lose so much muscle over time. My fear is that some of my crash dieting mistakes of the past has lead to muscle loss and therefore slower metabolism.

    If you've already lost muscle, that's water under the bridge, right? Forget about that, can't change the past, not worth hand-wringing about.

    Now, you can do strength exercise to avoid losing more, and maybe even slowly add some muscle over the long haul. Get adequate protein, and general good nutrition, to support that.

    Going forward, part of the way you prevent more muscle loss is by losing weight sensibly slowly, getting adequate nutrition while you do it. That, plus becoming more active and strong, is how you "repair your metabolism". (Mostly, it's not actually entirely literally metabolism in practice, but that's how people talk about it.🙄 It can include some metabolic functions, but also subconscious fatigue effects and habitual inactivity.)

    As you lose weight, you'll find it's easier and more fun to add movement to your day . . . not just exercise, but increased daily activity of all sorts. Do that, consciously. Attack home projects, volunteer to help friends/neighbors with stuff, cook from scratch (it's movement, not just food), etc. Move while you wait for the dinner to microwave, while you brush your teeth, on your breaks at work. Just move more. Research suggests fidgety people burn a couple hundred or more extra calories daily, compared to very non-fidgety ones. I'm not suggesting you try to fidget, just saying that tiny changes add up.

    Thank you! I have some muscle but I definitely don't want to lose more. I have a friend that lost 100lbs but really lost a lot of her muscle with it-- she told me that she had lost and gained her weight many times before finally losing it it for good and maintained it for 10 years. But she eats really low calories to maintain her loss-- I can only assume it is due to muscle loss. So I don't want to do it that way.

    I definitely think I could add a little more movement around the office! I bought a HUGE water bottle to encourage me to drink water.... but I could easily get a smaller one and just fill it up more. Admittedly, I find myself being very lazy with movement. Or rather, I think of it as "efficient." Like, getting everything I need (water, phone, remote, pencil, computer) so that I don't have to get up again. But in reality, getting up more would be helpful.
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    The biggest game changer for me was increasing my NEAT. I do very little purposeful exercise, but I try to move a lot throughout the day. I have a desk job, but I'll walk around the room while I'm on calls and get up and jog in place throughout the day. Instead of bringing a large water bottle with me to my office, I'll make frequent trips downstairs to get small glasses of water. It all adds up- according to my fitbit those changes ended up adding an extra 300-400 calories burned per day on average.

    I also do not keep any snacks in my house that I can't eat in moderation (i.e. Oreos).

    I just said this above and hadn't even read your message yet about getting small glasses of water!! I'll definitely try this.
  • JustaNoob
    JustaNoob Posts: 147 Member
    Thank you everyone for your replies. I feel like I got some really good ideas/responses and appreciate everyone taking the time to write.

    I will definitely be putting the main chunk of these to use starting with setting up my calories better and dusting off the old food scale.
  • wunderkindking
    wunderkindking Posts: 1,615 Member
    JustaNoob wrote: »


    I definitely think I could add a little more movement around the office! I bought a HUGE water bottle to encourage me to drink water.... but I could easily get a smaller one and just fill it up more. Admittedly, I find myself being very lazy with movement. Or rather, I think of it as "efficient." Like, getting everything I need (water, phone, remote, pencil, computer) so that I don't have to get up again. But in reality, getting up more would be helpful.


    I think you'll find that as weight comes off and your diet improves (not in a restrictive way for me - I just ate a brownie 2 seconds ago - but in a maximizing your calories way that is mostly self-defense) you'll WANT to move more.

    I self-identified as lazy as heck. Move as little as possible. It's taken me a good 6 months to lose 30lbs but somewhere around month 3 I started getting a little... antsy? And WANTING to do the things and find ways to move more -- instead of wanting to find ways to move LESS.

    Really easily the biggest surprise/shock I've had so far.