Walden farms 0 calories??
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it is possible if you live in America and a serving is less than 5 calories.
In other countries it is not possible - there are no zero foods or drinks except water and items are labelled accordingly
My can of pepsi max for example tells me it has 1.6kj - around 0.3 calorie - per 100ml.
In America it would have zero.4 -
paperpudding wrote: »it is possible if you live in America and a serving is less than 5 calories.
In other countries it is not possible - there are no zero foods or drinks except water and items are labelled accordingly
My can of pepsi max for example tells me it has 1.6kj - around 0.3 calorie - per 100ml.
In America it would have zero.
I wish our labels were that accurate!4 -
The marshmallow fluff is despicable. The chocolate dip works in a desperate situation.
FYI - the Smuckers pancake syrup made with Splenda is outstanding.2 -
KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »It's "possible" because they're not really 0 calories. The FDA stipulates that a food which has less than 5 calories per serve can round down to 0 on the label. So these companies make the serving size small, and round down. So a "0" cal for a teaspoon sauce could actually be 14.5 calories for a tablespoon, for example.
Same thing with kosher dills. Vlassic says half a pickle (one serve) is 0 calories, because if they had the serving size as a whole pickle, they'd have to put the actual calories on the label.
Well, that seems like a trick! I don't understand how the FDA can allow that...
They actually don't. Serving sizes are set by the FDA, not by the company. Here is an article that describes the process and the ongoing updates.
https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm386203.htm
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astronaught wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »It's "possible" because they're not really 0 calories. The FDA stipulates that a food which has less than 5 calories per serve can round down to 0 on the label. So these companies make the serving size small, and round down. So a "0" cal for a teaspoon sauce could actually be 14.5 calories for a tablespoon, for example.
Same thing with kosher dills. Vlassic says half a pickle (one serve) is 0 calories, because if they had the serving size as a whole pickle, they'd have to put the actual calories on the label.
Well, that seems like a trick! I don't understand how the FDA can allow that...
They actually don't. Serving sizes are set by the FDA, not by the company. Here is an article that describes the process and the ongoing updates.
https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm386203.htm
I think you misunderstood. I was saying that I cant believe the FDA allows for rounding down of calories.0 -
Two years ago I mistakenly bought a 2nd bottle of zero calorie pancake syrup before actually opening the first bottle. The taste is ok, but the texture is just watery. I have sworn off using it plain on bread, so maybe I'll try mixing it with peanut butter or maybe even PBfit to see if I can get past the watery texture. I don't mind experimenting with some undigestible sugar alcohols, not even old ones. What can go wronger than what is already oh so wrong?0
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KeithWhiteJr wrote: »astronaught wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »It's "possible" because they're not really 0 calories. The FDA stipulates that a food which has less than 5 calories per serve can round down to 0 on the label. So these companies make the serving size small, and round down. So a "0" cal for a teaspoon sauce could actually be 14.5 calories for a tablespoon, for example.
Same thing with kosher dills. Vlassic says half a pickle (one serve) is 0 calories, because if they had the serving size as a whole pickle, they'd have to put the actual calories on the label.
Well, that seems like a trick! I don't understand how the FDA can allow that...
They actually don't. Serving sizes are set by the FDA, not by the company. Here is an article that describes the process and the ongoing updates.
https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm386203.htm
I think you misunderstood. I was saying that I cant believe the FDA allows for rounding down of calories.
You should believe it. For instance you know that oil is 9 calories per gram. A spray oil claims zero calories for 1/2 second of spray. That oil is still oil, and it still has calories. The only way that they could lawfully claim a zero calorie serve is if they were within the law to do so, and that is only by rounding down.
Besides, it would be just mean of the government make all the food companies round up to the nearest 10. That they don't choose to round to the nearest 5 indicates that they understand the variability of foods. 100 grams of a fruit isn't always the same calories depending upon season, soil, and latitude.0 -
The peanut butter is the worst thing I've ever tasted in my entire life. I tried it once and it completely killed my appetite for the rest of the day. I guess that's one way to save calories.3
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I love the french dressing. No it's not exactly the same, but I can use it liberally on my salads which is important to me1
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The pancake syrup is the only one that reminds me of the real thing. The coffee creamer is just wrong. I do use the ranch dressings on occasion.
By "real thing" do you mean actual maple syrup that came from a tree or a brand like Aunt Jemima, Log Cabin, Mrs. Butterworth, etc, that does not contain actual maple syrup?0 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »astronaught wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »It's "possible" because they're not really 0 calories. The FDA stipulates that a food which has less than 5 calories per serve can round down to 0 on the label. So these companies make the serving size small, and round down. So a "0" cal for a teaspoon sauce could actually be 14.5 calories for a tablespoon, for example.
Same thing with kosher dills. Vlassic says half a pickle (one serve) is 0 calories, because if they had the serving size as a whole pickle, they'd have to put the actual calories on the label.
Well, that seems like a trick! I don't understand how the FDA can allow that...
They actually don't. Serving sizes are set by the FDA, not by the company. Here is an article that describes the process and the ongoing updates.
https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm386203.htm
I think you misunderstood. I was saying that I cant believe the FDA allows for rounding down of calories.
You should believe it. For instance you know that oil is 9 calories per gram. A spray oil claims zero calories for 1/2 second of spray. That oil is still oil, and it still has calories. The only way that they could lawfully claim a zero calorie serve is if they were within the law to do so, and that is only by rounding down.
Besides, it would be just mean of the government make all the food companies round up to the nearest 10. That they don't choose to round to the nearest 5 indicates that they understand the variability of foods. 100 grams of a fruit isn't always the same calories depending upon season, soil, and latitude.
But why should they round at all? In the UK, they have to put the actual calories on products. Even Walden Farms is called "Near Zero" in the UK because it isn't actually calorie free. You can even go to the website and see what calories are really in WF products.2 -
Yes in Australia too, Keith. All products must show kilojoules per 100 ml/ 100 g.
But since US is not likely to suddenly change its laws to suit MFP users, is good for users there to be aware of this less than 5 per serving = 0 thing.0 -
The syrup is good in oatmeal. I add apples and cinnamon and put some on top and it’s really good. It’s good on protien pancakes too. The coffee creamer is alright but I would rather use coffee mate even with the calories. Every other one Of their products that I’ve tried taste like crap.0
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I have been using Walden Farms for YEARS, I love the pancake syrup and I have found so many uses for (brace yourselves) the peanut butter. I get PB & Me sugar free powdered peanut butter, unsweetened cashew almond milk and mix them, add a bit of Truvia and it is heaven to me! I sometimes get the chocolate syrup and chocolate dip, mix with chocolate protein powder and make a cake-batter like bowl. I use the maple on a crazy tofu dessert I have had for years and use the marshmallow on a low carb, gluten free sugar free oatmeal bite with sugar free preserves. I used to use the mayo and dressings but like my vegetables with Braggs Amino, Coconut Amino, seasonings or just plain. The caramel is not my favorite, and some of the dressings used to seem good but I only like the Thousand Island and Honey Mustard Mayo which is impossible to find.
I have also been doing this for a VERY long time, did fitness/ figure competitions and have been eating sugar free, no fast food, desserts, etc. for so long my palate is completely different. I even like the taste of my fish oil and greens powder together!! lol1 -
Their maple syrup is not bad. You can also mix it with other sugar free brands. I eat it plain on my kodiak cakes. It’s their best product
I also like the BBQ sauce.
The Amazing” mayo is all but that. Yuck !0 -
Lots of "flavors" in everything, not the real thing. It's basically a chemical concoction. I know a company that chemically "makes" the "flavoring" in a lot of our favorite things. Fun stuff.0
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The "peanut butter" is really awful tasting, but, I put some in a batch of banana bread muffins I was making, and it worked great. It gave the muffins a slight hint of peanut butter flavor.
But don't use it for sandwiches... yuck!0 -
Because of this thread I bought some of the syrup to try last night. It was surprisingly good. Much better than expected I should say. I'm sure it's not "good for you" and it's probably full of chemicals, but taste wise it's not bad at all.0
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Only got the Pancake syrup, caramel syrup and marshmellow dip available, where I live.
Pancake is ok, the caramel I did not like the first time, will have to try it again. How is the marshmellow dip? Besides being relatively expensive (imported good), it looked borderline poisonous in that jar
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I hesitantly bought the mayo today to mix with chicken salad or tuna when I am working in the office. I will still try it out, but this thread basically confirmed what I was assuming lol. I'll keep my mind open though.
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I hesitantly bought the mayo today to mix with chicken salad or tuna when I am working in the office. I will still try it out, but this thread basically confirmed what I was assuming lol. I'll keep my mind open though.
Finally tried it today. The texture and color kind of freaks me out, but it worked just fine with tuna. I think that is the only thing I would use it for.
I will stick to real mayo next time. 2 -
I hesitantly bought the mayo today to mix with chicken salad or tuna when I am working in the office. I will still try it out, but this thread basically confirmed what I was assuming lol. I'll keep my mind open though.
Finally tried it today. The texture and color kind of freaks me out, but it worked just fine with tuna. I think that is the only thing I would use it for.
I will stick to real mayo next time.
I'm obsessed with their pancake syrup. I like their chocolate syrup too but it does have a little chemicall-y taste. Blueberry syrup is a B+, but you should definitely try their pancake syrup too if you like that kind of thing.0 -
chris89topher wrote: »I hesitantly bought the mayo today to mix with chicken salad or tuna when I am working in the office. I will still try it out, but this thread basically confirmed what I was assuming lol. I'll keep my mind open though.
Finally tried it today. The texture and color kind of freaks me out, but it worked just fine with tuna. I think that is the only thing I would use it for.
I will stick to real mayo next time.
I'm obsessed with their pancake syrup. I like their chocolate syrup too but it does have a little chemicall-y taste. Blueberry syrup is a B+, but you should definitely try their pancake syrup too if you like that kind of thing.
I limit my consumption of Walden Farms and similar products that counter my motive to eat as wholesome and natural as possible in modern society, but I DO include Walden Farms' Italian, Balsamic, and Sesame Ginger dressings; chocolate spread/dip; and pancake syrups in my diet.
I hope I am not slowly and ignorantly killing my insides or sabotaging my own health and fitness goals by doing so!!1 -
chris89topher wrote: »I hesitantly bought the mayo today to mix with chicken salad or tuna when I am working in the office. I will still try it out, but this thread basically confirmed what I was assuming lol. I'll keep my mind open though.
Finally tried it today. The texture and color kind of freaks me out, but it worked just fine with tuna. I think that is the only thing I would use it for.
I will stick to real mayo next time.
I'm obsessed with their pancake syrup. I like their chocolate syrup too but it does have a little chemicall-y taste. Blueberry syrup is a B+, but you should definitely try their pancake syrup too if you like that kind of thing.
I limit my consumption of Walden Farms and similar products that counter my motive to eat as wholesome and natural as possible in modern society, but I DO include Walden Farms' Italian, Balsamic, and Sesame Ginger dressings; chocolate spread/dip; and pancake syrups in my diet.
I hope I am not slowly and ignorantly killing my insides or sabotaging my own health and fitness goals by doing so!!
How on earth would you be doing that???1 -
chris89topher wrote: »I hesitantly bought the mayo today to mix with chicken salad or tuna when I am working in the office. I will still try it out, but this thread basically confirmed what I was assuming lol. I'll keep my mind open though.
Finally tried it today. The texture and color kind of freaks me out, but it worked just fine with tuna. I think that is the only thing I would use it for.
I will stick to real mayo next time.
I'm obsessed with their pancake syrup. I like their chocolate syrup too but it does have a little chemicall-y taste. Blueberry syrup is a B+, but you should definitely try their pancake syrup too if you like that kind of thing.
I limit my consumption of Walden Farms and similar products that counter my motive to eat as wholesome and natural as possible in modern society, but I DO include Walden Farms' Italian, Balsamic, and Sesame Ginger dressings; chocolate spread/dip; and pancake syrups in my diet.
I hope I am not slowly and ignorantly killing my insides or sabotaging my own health and fitness goals by doing so!!
You are. Slowly. Soooooooooooooo slowly. You might die from it at....108?
I've recently started using the pancake syrup because Walmart has been out of the one I usually use and really like it.2 -
Real maple syrup, the bomb!3
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I just bought a bottle to try. It's... not disgusting to me. It certainly doesn't excite me0
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This is just my impression, having never tried any of their products, but they all seem like expensive flavored goo. For those who've tried them, are any of them worth the money?0
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This is just my impression, having never tried any of their products, but they all seem like expensive flavored goo. For those who've tried them, are any of them worth the money?
I like them okay. I wouldn't eat them alone or make them a major player in my diet but for really bland things they're a nice way to shave some calories off.
that said I've been doing sugar free most things for the better part of a year so my taste buds are pretty adapted to 'chemical goo' as opposed to 'real maple syrup' or whatever.
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I think the Waldon Farms 'peanut butter' is 0 calories because once it is opened and sampled, one throws it away because it's the grossest thing they have ever put in their mouth..4
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