Going for a run to make up for going over the limits
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WholeFoods4Lyfe wrote: »Honestly, what you did is considered "disordered" and is actually very concerning. You are in essence punishing yourself for eating food and is not healthy, especially long term. You need to work on your relationship with food so that "going off plan" isn't the end of the world. You should be able to enjoy your food, and if that means going over sometimes, than so be it. Have you ever considered therapy to address your relationship with food?
"Disordered" is not about what people *do*, it's about how they *think* or *feel* as they do it.
Examples:
Weighing daily is disordered for people who feel guilty, angry, obsessive, anxious, or otherwise experience psychological stress over the normal daily weight fluctuations we pretty much all experience. Weighing daily is not disordered for people who just consider the result a neutral data point that only has meaning in a long series of such data points, and find that series useful.
Calorie counting is disordered for people who become anxious over trivial cases of inaccuracy, obsess about being under goal as if it were a magic spell or a character test, significantly restrict their lives (such as give up all social events) because of cases where they can't accurately determine calories. Calorie counting is not disordered for people who recognize that they're making choices that involve estimates, approximations, and sometimes compromises, in order to manage weight in a happy life context.
In most common cases, it's not the act that can be disordered. It's the thinking.
As others said, OP has clarified, and this doesn't sound like disordered thinking.13 -
MargaretYakoda wrote: »
YES!!
Great answer!!!!!
An occasional meal with the family, including fish and chips AND a donut?
As long as it truly is occasionally?
We’re not meant to wear hair shirts and whip ourselves absolutely all day every day
(unless that’s your thing. If so, I don’t judge)
Life is for living.
We all go over our calorie budget sometimes.
Planning ahead is best, obviously. But sometimes that doesn’t happen.
So. Roll with it.
Make up for it in the next few days by going a bit under, as has been suggested above.
You don’t have to exercise to burn it off.
If you want to? It doesn’t hurt. But you don’t have to.
Personally? I am losing weight in order to be healthier. But if it means no more cakes and donuts and pies ever????
Nah. That’s not how I want to live my life.
I will budget in a gluten free donut occasionally. Bet on it.
I bought gluten free donuts today.
BWA HA HA!
Maple glazed.
I shall enjoy every bite.
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Exactly! I'm (F/70/120 lbs) mostly staying within my calorie allowance (working on losing some pandemic pounds) but I can certainly put away more than a few thousand calories over the occasional extended nice dinner. I believe I would need an inspiring mentor if I was unable to allow myself to enjoy the indulgence8 -
Fatgonegirl wrote: »I come from a North Sea fishing community that catches and processes all types of fish. I agree the parasites are unable to infect humans and if you at happy to eat them great. I can tell you that none of us eats cod. If you think haddock is as bad ask a North Sea fisherman what he has for his fish supper.
Curious: If the parasites are of no harm to humans in the cooked fish, why do the fishermen object to eating them? Is this just distaste, similar to the way that people from cultures that don't eat insects don't want to eat cricket flour or satay grasshopper, or that people unfamiliar with them don't want to eat mountain oysters (bull testicles)?
It seems like the parasites might even have some protein, maybe other nutrients, though no way I can think of to find out for sure.4 -
WholeFoods4Lyfe wrote: »Honestly, what you did is considered "disordered" and is actually very concerning. You are in essence punishing yourself for eating food and is not healthy, especially long term. You need to work on your relationship with food so that "going off plan" isn't the end of the world. You should be able to enjoy your food, and if that means going over sometimes, than so be it. Have you ever considered therapy to address your relationship with food?
I'm guessing from the many dislikes of your post, that your post is actually more "disordered" than my eating 🤣
And no, I haven't considered nor will I be considering therapy for my relationship with food 🤣.
If you read the thread you will see that I enjoy running, how can doing something you enjoy be a punishment? It just so happened that seeing that I was over the calories spurred me into doing a run and partially made me realise that I hadn't done as many runs recently as I normally would. I enjoyed the run, and I enjoyed the fish, chips and doughnut. Sounds like a win, win to me 😁
My question was more around the order of the events and in my head, in an ideal world I would have perhaps done the run first, but seeing the rational comments on here I've gone with the fact that the order doesn't really matter and if be happy to do the same again.
So honestly, personally I think your post is more concerning. Have you considered therapy for your relationship with others in the internet? 😉
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Reading (or watching) available information to increase one's knowledge on a matter before thinking you know what is going on and giving a comment on it.
Sadly that willingness to do so is ruined by ..... (insert your observed reason here).
The app makes it too easy to read first comment and not even see any others (unless they changed it), and then comment.
I used to see more comments that were obviously on just the title, didn't even read the first post that explained anything. Talk about the easy way out there. And mistaken comments.4 -
Fatgonegirl wrote: »I come from a North Sea fishing community that catches and processes all types of fish. I agree the parasites are unable to infect humans and if you at happy to eat them great. I can tell you that none of us eats cod. If you think haddock is as bad ask a North Sea fisherman what he has for his fish supper.
Curious: If the parasites are of no harm to humans in the cooked fish, why do the fishermen object to eating them? Is this just distaste, similar to the way that people from cultures that don't eat insects don't want to eat cricket flour or satay grasshopper, or that people unfamiliar with them don't want to eat mountain oysters (bull testicles)?
It seems like the parasites might even have some protein, maybe other nutrients, though no way I can think of to find out for sure.
I know a bunch of AK fishermen and they eat both AK cod and haddock. Not sure if there is some parasite difference or if AK types are just less fussy, but in that I like AK cod, I'm not going to find out.3 -
Fatgonegirl wrote: »I come from a North Sea fishing community that catches and processes all types of fish. I agree the parasites are unable to infect humans and if you at happy to eat them greatly. I can tell you that none of us eats cod. If you think haddock is as bad ask a North Sea fisherman what he has for his fish supper.
Curious: If the parasites are of no harm to humans in the cooked fish, why do the fishermen object to eating them? Is this just distaste, similar to the way that people from cultures that don't eat insects don't want to eat cricket flour or satay grasshopper, or that people unfamiliar with them don't want to eat mountain oysters (bull testicles)?
It seems like the parasites might even have some protein, maybe other nutrients, though no way I can think of to find out for sure.
It's the distaste of seeing them when the fish is gutted but it's probably also cultural as well. Cod is viewed as dirty, it's supposed to be a bottom feeder consuming carrion. I can still remember going on holiday with my ex-husband and being amazed that fish and chip shops sold battered cod. We just looked at each other and walked out.2 -
Is that like catfish? or basa?1
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Fatgonegirl wrote: »Fatgonegirl wrote: »I come from a North Sea fishing community that catches and processes all types of fish. I agree the parasites are unable to infect humans and if you at happy to eat them greatly. I can tell you that none of us eats cod. If you think haddock is as bad ask a North Sea fisherman what he has for his fish supper.
Curious: If the parasites are of no harm to humans in the cooked fish, why do the fishermen object to eating them? Is this just distaste, similar to the way that people from cultures that don't eat insects don't want to eat cricket flour or satay grasshopper, or that people unfamiliar with them don't want to eat mountain oysters (bull testicles)?
It seems like the parasites might even have some protein, maybe other nutrients, though no way I can think of to find out for sure.
It's the distaste of seeing them when the fish is gutted but it's probably also cultural as well. Cod is viewed as dirty, it's supposed to be a bottom feeder consuming carrion. I can still remember going on holiday with my ex-husband and being amazed that fish and chip shops sold battered cod. We just looked at each other and walked out.
Thank you for answering honestly: It was true curiosity on my part, not a loaded question of some type. I was afraid you might be offended that I'd even ask. (Truth in advertising: I've been vegetarian for 47+ years, so I don't eat any of those things . . . but I'd try any/all, if I weren't veg. I sample all the scary veg stuff, like natto.)
Apologies to the OP for the digression!2 -
MargaretYakoda wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »
YES!!
Great answer!!!!!
An occasional meal with the family, including fish and chips AND a donut?
As long as it truly is occasionally?
We’re not meant to wear hair shirts and whip ourselves absolutely all day every day
(unless that’s your thing. If so, I don’t judge)
Life is for living.
We all go over our calorie budget sometimes.
Planning ahead is best, obviously. But sometimes that doesn’t happen.
So. Roll with it.
Make up for it in the next few days by going a bit under, as has been suggested above.
You don’t have to exercise to burn it off.
If you want to? It doesn’t hurt. But you don’t have to.
Personally? I am losing weight in order to be healthier. But if it means no more cakes and donuts and pies ever????
Nah. That’s not how I want to live my life.
I will budget in a gluten free donut occasionally. Bet on it.
I bought gluten free donuts today.
BWA HA HA!
Maple glazed.
I shall enjoy every bite.
Dear Disagree Stalker.
I have a donut. And you don’t.
I am sorry this makes you jelly.
Nah. Not really.
Maple glazed gluten free donuts are delicious. Mmmmmmmmm…. Worth every calorie.
I like mine with chai. Sugar free, of course.10 -
MargaretYakoda wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »
YES!!
Great answer!!!!!
An occasional meal with the family, including fish and chips AND a donut?
As long as it truly is occasionally?
We’re not meant to wear hair shirts and whip ourselves absolutely all day every day
(unless that’s your thing. If so, I don’t judge)
Life is for living.
We all go over our calorie budget sometimes.
Planning ahead is best, obviously. But sometimes that doesn’t happen.
So. Roll with it.
Make up for it in the next few days by going a bit under, as has been suggested above.
You don’t have to exercise to burn it off.
If you want to? It doesn’t hurt. But you don’t have to.
Personally? I am losing weight in order to be healthier. But if it means no more cakes and donuts and pies ever????
Nah. That’s not how I want to live my life.
I will budget in a gluten free donut occasionally. Bet on it.
I bought gluten free donuts today.
BWA HA HA!
Maple glazed.
I shall enjoy every bite.
Dear Disagree Stalker.
I have a donut. And you don’t.
I am sorry this makes you jelly.
Nah. Not really.
Maple glazed gluten free donuts are delicious. Mmmmmmmmm…. Worth every calorie.
I like mine with chai. Sugar free, of course.
i had a reeses peanut butter pumpkin last night.
because reeses tastes even better when its pumpkin shaped.
almost 200 calories of pure bliss.
and i have another left over for tonight.
and it too, shall be divine.9 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »
YES!!
Great answer!!!!!
An occasional meal with the family, including fish and chips AND a donut?
As long as it truly is occasionally?
We’re not meant to wear hair shirts and whip ourselves absolutely all day every day
(unless that’s your thing. If so, I don’t judge)
Life is for living.
We all go over our calorie budget sometimes.
Planning ahead is best, obviously. But sometimes that doesn’t happen.
So. Roll with it.
Make up for it in the next few days by going a bit under, as has been suggested above.
You don’t have to exercise to burn it off.
If you want to? It doesn’t hurt. But you don’t have to.
Personally? I am losing weight in order to be healthier. But if it means no more cakes and donuts and pies ever????
Nah. That’s not how I want to live my life.
I will budget in a gluten free donut occasionally. Bet on it.
I bought gluten free donuts today.
BWA HA HA!
Maple glazed.
I shall enjoy every bite.
Dear Disagree Stalker.
I have a donut. And you don’t.
I am sorry this makes you jelly.
Nah. Not really.
Maple glazed gluten free donuts are delicious. Mmmmmmmmm…. Worth every calorie.
I like mine with chai. Sugar free, of course.
i had a reeses peanut butter pumpkin last night.
because reeses tastes even better when its pumpkin shaped.
almost 200 calories of pure bliss.
and i have another left over for tonight.
and it too, shall be divine.
What is it about the holiday-themed Reese's being better than the standard? I too have noticed this, though my all-time fave is still the Easter egg. Maybe something about the peanut butter ratio.4 -
penguinmama87 wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »
YES!!
Great answer!!!!!
An occasional meal with the family, including fish and chips AND a donut?
As long as it truly is occasionally?
We’re not meant to wear hair shirts and whip ourselves absolutely all day every day
(unless that’s your thing. If so, I don’t judge)
Life is for living.
We all go over our calorie budget sometimes.
Planning ahead is best, obviously. But sometimes that doesn’t happen.
So. Roll with it.
Make up for it in the next few days by going a bit under, as has been suggested above.
You don’t have to exercise to burn it off.
If you want to? It doesn’t hurt. But you don’t have to.
Personally? I am losing weight in order to be healthier. But if it means no more cakes and donuts and pies ever????
Nah. That’s not how I want to live my life.
I will budget in a gluten free donut occasionally. Bet on it.
I bought gluten free donuts today.
BWA HA HA!
Maple glazed.
I shall enjoy every bite.
Dear Disagree Stalker.
I have a donut. And you don’t.
I am sorry this makes you jelly.
Nah. Not really.
Maple glazed gluten free donuts are delicious. Mmmmmmmmm…. Worth every calorie.
I like mine with chai. Sugar free, of course.
i had a reeses peanut butter pumpkin last night.
because reeses tastes even better when its pumpkin shaped.
almost 200 calories of pure bliss.
and i have another left over for tonight.
and it too, shall be divine.
What is it about the holiday-themed Reese's being better than the standard? I too have noticed this, though my all-time fave is still the Easter egg. Maybe something about the peanut butter ratio.
they do have more peanut butter in them. i think that is why they are better. lol4 -
It depends on how you feel about it. If it's simply a way to earn calories, then yes, that's fine and more than fine. If you're not pushing yourself over your limits and making dieting unsustainable, then it's fine. If, however, these actions are accompanied by feelings of guilt, punishment, or pressure to "make up for a mistake", then you're treading a dangerous line.
I earn calories for certain events all the time. I look at it exactly like taking overtime to earn money for something you desire and want to enjoy, nothing more nothing less. I'm willing to put in some extra work to cater to my hedonic motivations. If it feels worth it, then it's worth it. I don't do it often enough to become unsustainable and I don't do it out of guilt. The difference between disordered thinking and strategic thinking is the mindset.8 -
I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.6
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I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.9 -
I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
Oh, there can definitely be an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I'm just not concerned about THIS particular OP.
We had an exercise bulimic here previously and I'm sorry I didn't bookmark a particular thread as it was a clear example of a disordered relationship with exercise.
(Again, does not apply to this OP.)4 -
I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
That connection as you describe it, in your mental patterns, is healthy - sure, I can accept that.
But.
Mental patterns. It's the mental patterns that make any particular thing mentally healthy or unhealthy, dysfunctional or helpful.
Some people develop *not* the connection you did, but a mental connection that says if they miss their calorie goal by any amount on any day, they're a bad person, and that they can avoid being a bad person by doing exercise (even exercise they dislike) to expiate that sin of overeating. It becomes an obsession or compulsion. There is guilt, shame, panic, unhappiness, or other negative emotions.
Same external behavior, exercising more related to eating more . . . *completely* different mental state.4 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.
I had to completely stop even looking at the caramel or peanut butter M&Ms. I will eat the whole bag Yes. Even the party sized bag.
Gave them up a few years ago. Absolutely had to.
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MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.
I had to completely stop even looking at the caramel or peanut butter M&Ms. I will eat the whole bag Yes. Even the party sized bag.
Gave them up a few years ago. Absolutely had to.
i havent had the caramel M&Ms
but peanut butter M&Ms
mmmmmmm
yeah. i dont buy those. well, havent in a long time, anyway. talk about mindless eating lol
When it comes to my weaknesses like that, ill only buy what im willing to eat in one sitting (if i can stretch it to two, great, but I will go ahead and plan on it for one, even if it means im over a bit that day). no way would i buy a party size bag. that would just be asking for problems. it would be like buying a 10 pack of twin wrapped PB cups and saying it was 20 servings. nope. LOL1 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.
I had to completely stop even looking at the caramel or peanut butter M&Ms. I will eat the whole bag Yes. Even the party sized bag.
Gave them up a few years ago. Absolutely had to.
i havent had the caramel M&Ms
but peanut butter M&Ms
mmmmmmm
yeah. i dont buy those. well, havent in a long time, anyway. talk about mindless eating lol
When it comes to my weaknesses like that, ill only buy what im willing to eat in one sitting (if i can stretch it to two, great, but I will go ahead and plan on it for one, even if it means im over a bit that day). no way would i buy a party size bag. that would just be asking for problems. it would be like buying a 10 pack of twin wrapped PB cups and saying it was 20 servings. nope. LOL
That's an excellent rule that I live by. Even if what I'm "willing to eat in one sitting" is a 3000 calorie sort of thing, I need to be in control of what I'm choosing to eat and how much in order to stay in balance. If I'm not willing to spend the calories (and would spend them "unwillingly" if exposed to them) I would rather not have that stuff in front of me taunting me. I buy single servings of things when a single serving is mentally satisfying enough, and I plan for multi-serving things when a single serving is not satisfying. I never buy/make multiple servings expecting myself to eat a single serving if my experience taught me I have a problem moderating that food.6 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.
I had to completely stop even looking at the caramel or peanut butter M&Ms. I will eat the whole bag Yes. Even the party sized bag.
Gave them up a few years ago. Absolutely had to.
i havent had the caramel M&Ms
but peanut butter M&Ms
mmmmmmm
yeah. i dont buy those. well, havent in a long time, anyway. talk about mindless eating lol
When it comes to my weaknesses like that, ill only buy what im willing to eat in one sitting (if i can stretch it to two, great, but I will go ahead and plan on it for one, even if it means im over a bit that day). no way would i buy a party size bag. that would just be asking for problems. it would be like buying a 10 pack of twin wrapped PB cups and saying it was 20 servings. nope. LOL
That's an excellent rule that I live by. Even if what I'm "willing to eat in one sitting" is a 3000 calorie sort of thing, I need to be in control of what I'm choosing to eat and how much in order to stay in balance. If I'm not willing to spend the calories (and would spend them "unwillingly" if exposed to them) I would rather not have that stuff in front of me taunting me. I buy single servings of things when a single serving is mentally satisfying enough, and I plan for multi-serving things when a single serving is not satisfying. I never buy/make multiple servings expecting myself to eat a single serving if my experience taught me I have a problem moderating that food.
last week i was in excruciating pain, waiting for a CT scan. bought a package (whole package not some mini size thing, if such a thing exists of these, ive never seen them) of the wafer type (not hard cookie type) nutter butter cookies. knowing, full well, I would eat the whole thing in one day. And i did. and it came out to 3000 some odd calories. and i logged it. and i didnt regret it. and i still lost weight that week. LMAO
needless to say, i only buy about one package of those a year LOLOL fortunately they are not 'eye level' for me on the cookie aisle. they are up at the very top and i am very short, so i actually have to stand way back and LOOK for them to see and find them and then climb to get them down
yes, thats worth it, too.
LOL
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callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.
I had to completely stop even looking at the caramel or peanut butter M&Ms. I will eat the whole bag Yes. Even the party sized bag.
Gave them up a few years ago. Absolutely had to.
i havent had the caramel M&Ms
but peanut butter M&Ms
mmmmmmm
yeah. i dont buy those. well, havent in a long time, anyway. talk about mindless eating lol
When it comes to my weaknesses like that, ill only buy what im willing to eat in one sitting (if i can stretch it to two, great, but I will go ahead and plan on it for one, even if it means im over a bit that day). no way would i buy a party size bag. that would just be asking for problems. it would be like buying a 10 pack of twin wrapped PB cups and saying it was 20 servings. nope. LOL
That's an excellent rule that I live by. Even if what I'm "willing to eat in one sitting" is a 3000 calorie sort of thing, I need to be in control of what I'm choosing to eat and how much in order to stay in balance. If I'm not willing to spend the calories (and would spend them "unwillingly" if exposed to them) I would rather not have that stuff in front of me taunting me. I buy single servings of things when a single serving is mentally satisfying enough, and I plan for multi-serving things when a single serving is not satisfying. I never buy/make multiple servings expecting myself to eat a single serving if my experience taught me I have a problem moderating that food.
last week i was in excruciating pain, waiting for a CT scan. bought a package (whole package not some mini size thing, if such a thing exists of these, ive never seen them) of the wafer type (not hard cookie type) nutter butter cookies. knowing, full well, I would eat the whole thing in one day. And i did. and it came out to 3000 some odd calories. and i logged it. and i didnt regret it. and i still lost weight that week. LMAO
needless to say, i only buy about one package of those a year LOLOL fortunately they are not 'eye level' for me on the cookie aisle. they are up at the very top and i am very short, so i actually have to stand way back and LOOK for them to see and find them and then climb to get them down
yes, thats worth it, too.
LOL
Ah! Another good reason to carry a cane!
I have knocked so so soooooo many things down and into my cart with my cane!
(announcer voice) “This has been another episode of Crip Tips!
Brought to you by the people at “Is this a new pain or the same old one?” and “Do I have the spoons for a shower today?”1 -
MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.
I had to completely stop even looking at the caramel or peanut butter M&Ms. I will eat the whole bag Yes. Even the party sized bag.
Gave them up a few years ago. Absolutely had to.
i havent had the caramel M&Ms
but peanut butter M&Ms
mmmmmmm
yeah. i dont buy those. well, havent in a long time, anyway. talk about mindless eating lol
When it comes to my weaknesses like that, ill only buy what im willing to eat in one sitting (if i can stretch it to two, great, but I will go ahead and plan on it for one, even if it means im over a bit that day). no way would i buy a party size bag. that would just be asking for problems. it would be like buying a 10 pack of twin wrapped PB cups and saying it was 20 servings. nope. LOL
That's an excellent rule that I live by. Even if what I'm "willing to eat in one sitting" is a 3000 calorie sort of thing, I need to be in control of what I'm choosing to eat and how much in order to stay in balance. If I'm not willing to spend the calories (and would spend them "unwillingly" if exposed to them) I would rather not have that stuff in front of me taunting me. I buy single servings of things when a single serving is mentally satisfying enough, and I plan for multi-serving things when a single serving is not satisfying. I never buy/make multiple servings expecting myself to eat a single serving if my experience taught me I have a problem moderating that food.
last week i was in excruciating pain, waiting for a CT scan. bought a package (whole package not some mini size thing, if such a thing exists of these, ive never seen them) of the wafer type (not hard cookie type) nutter butter cookies. knowing, full well, I would eat the whole thing in one day. And i did. and it came out to 3000 some odd calories. and i logged it. and i didnt regret it. and i still lost weight that week. LMAO
needless to say, i only buy about one package of those a year LOLOL fortunately they are not 'eye level' for me on the cookie aisle. they are up at the very top and i am very short, so i actually have to stand way back and LOOK for them to see and find them and then climb to get them down
yes, thats worth it, too.
LOL
Ah! Another good reason to carry a cane!
I have knocked so so soooooo many things down and into my cart with my cane!
(announcer voice) “This has been another episode of Crip Tips!
Brought to you by the people at “Is this a new pain or the same old one?” and “Do I have the spoons for a shower today?”
my ex was disabled and had a cane. I forgot he used to do that LOL
was quite handy, actually!1 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.
I had to completely stop even looking at the caramel or peanut butter M&Ms. I will eat the whole bag Yes. Even the party sized bag.
Gave them up a few years ago. Absolutely had to.
i havent had the caramel M&Ms
but peanut butter M&Ms
mmmmmmm
yeah. i dont buy those. well, havent in a long time, anyway. talk about mindless eating lol
When it comes to my weaknesses like that, ill only buy what im willing to eat in one sitting (if i can stretch it to two, great, but I will go ahead and plan on it for one, even if it means im over a bit that day). no way would i buy a party size bag. that would just be asking for problems. it would be like buying a 10 pack of twin wrapped PB cups and saying it was 20 servings. nope. LOL
That's an excellent rule that I live by. Even if what I'm "willing to eat in one sitting" is a 3000 calorie sort of thing, I need to be in control of what I'm choosing to eat and how much in order to stay in balance. If I'm not willing to spend the calories (and would spend them "unwillingly" if exposed to them) I would rather not have that stuff in front of me taunting me. I buy single servings of things when a single serving is mentally satisfying enough, and I plan for multi-serving things when a single serving is not satisfying. I never buy/make multiple servings expecting myself to eat a single serving if my experience taught me I have a problem moderating that food.
last week i was in excruciating pain, waiting for a CT scan. bought a package (whole package not some mini size thing, if such a thing exists of these, ive never seen them) of the wafer type (not hard cookie type) nutter butter cookies. knowing, full well, I would eat the whole thing in one day. And i did. and it came out to 3000 some odd calories. and i logged it. and i didnt regret it. and i still lost weight that week. LMAO
needless to say, i only buy about one package of those a year LOLOL fortunately they are not 'eye level' for me on the cookie aisle. they are up at the very top and i am very short, so i actually have to stand way back and LOOK for them to see and find them and then climb to get them down
yes, thats worth it, too.
LOL
Ah! Another good reason to carry a cane!
I have knocked so so soooooo many things down and into my cart with my cane!
(announcer voice) “This has been another episode of Crip Tips!
Brought to you by the people at “Is this a new pain or the same old one?” and “Do I have the spoons for a shower today?”
my ex was disabled and had a cane. I forgot he used to do that LOL
was quite handy, actually!
I think there's a great market being missed to combine one of those canes that end at the bottom with multiple prongs (for stability, I assume) with one of the trigger claw mechanisms for grasping objects that are out of reach (or for trying to extract toys from the big glass boxes at the arcade).2 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.
I had to completely stop even looking at the caramel or peanut butter M&Ms. I will eat the whole bag Yes. Even the party sized bag.
Gave them up a few years ago. Absolutely had to.
i havent had the caramel M&Ms
but peanut butter M&Ms
mmmmmmm
yeah. i dont buy those. well, havent in a long time, anyway. talk about mindless eating lol
When it comes to my weaknesses like that, ill only buy what im willing to eat in one sitting (if i can stretch it to two, great, but I will go ahead and plan on it for one, even if it means im over a bit that day). no way would i buy a party size bag. that would just be asking for problems. it would be like buying a 10 pack of twin wrapped PB cups and saying it was 20 servings. nope. LOL
That's an excellent rule that I live by. Even if what I'm "willing to eat in one sitting" is a 3000 calorie sort of thing, I need to be in control of what I'm choosing to eat and how much in order to stay in balance. If I'm not willing to spend the calories (and would spend them "unwillingly" if exposed to them) I would rather not have that stuff in front of me taunting me. I buy single servings of things when a single serving is mentally satisfying enough, and I plan for multi-serving things when a single serving is not satisfying. I never buy/make multiple servings expecting myself to eat a single serving if my experience taught me I have a problem moderating that food.
last week i was in excruciating pain, waiting for a CT scan. bought a package (whole package not some mini size thing, if such a thing exists of these, ive never seen them) of the wafer type (not hard cookie type) nutter butter cookies. knowing, full well, I would eat the whole thing in one day. And i did. and it came out to 3000 some odd calories. and i logged it. and i didnt regret it. and i still lost weight that week. LMAO
needless to say, i only buy about one package of those a year LOLOL fortunately they are not 'eye level' for me on the cookie aisle. they are up at the very top and i am very short, so i actually have to stand way back and LOOK for them to see and find them and then climb to get them down
yes, thats worth it, too.
LOL
Ah! Another good reason to carry a cane!
I have knocked so so soooooo many things down and into my cart with my cane!
(announcer voice) “This has been another episode of Crip Tips!
Brought to you by the people at “Is this a new pain or the same old one?” and “Do I have the spoons for a shower today?”
my ex was disabled and had a cane. I forgot he used to do that LOL
was quite handy, actually!
I think there's a great market being missed to combine one of those canes that end at the bottom with multiple prongs (for stability, I assume) with one of the trigger claw mechanisms for grasping objects that are out of reach (or for trying to extract toys from the big glass boxes at the arcade).
It exists.
And is too bloody expensive for a cane that isn’t made of titanium and gold.
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MargaretYakoda wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.
I had to completely stop even looking at the caramel or peanut butter M&Ms. I will eat the whole bag Yes. Even the party sized bag.
Gave them up a few years ago. Absolutely had to.
i havent had the caramel M&Ms
but peanut butter M&Ms
mmmmmmm
yeah. i dont buy those. well, havent in a long time, anyway. talk about mindless eating lol
When it comes to my weaknesses like that, ill only buy what im willing to eat in one sitting (if i can stretch it to two, great, but I will go ahead and plan on it for one, even if it means im over a bit that day). no way would i buy a party size bag. that would just be asking for problems. it would be like buying a 10 pack of twin wrapped PB cups and saying it was 20 servings. nope. LOL
That's an excellent rule that I live by. Even if what I'm "willing to eat in one sitting" is a 3000 calorie sort of thing, I need to be in control of what I'm choosing to eat and how much in order to stay in balance. If I'm not willing to spend the calories (and would spend them "unwillingly" if exposed to them) I would rather not have that stuff in front of me taunting me. I buy single servings of things when a single serving is mentally satisfying enough, and I plan for multi-serving things when a single serving is not satisfying. I never buy/make multiple servings expecting myself to eat a single serving if my experience taught me I have a problem moderating that food.
last week i was in excruciating pain, waiting for a CT scan. bought a package (whole package not some mini size thing, if such a thing exists of these, ive never seen them) of the wafer type (not hard cookie type) nutter butter cookies. knowing, full well, I would eat the whole thing in one day. And i did. and it came out to 3000 some odd calories. and i logged it. and i didnt regret it. and i still lost weight that week. LMAO
needless to say, i only buy about one package of those a year LOLOL fortunately they are not 'eye level' for me on the cookie aisle. they are up at the very top and i am very short, so i actually have to stand way back and LOOK for them to see and find them and then climb to get them down
yes, thats worth it, too.
LOL
Ah! Another good reason to carry a cane!
I have knocked so so soooooo many things down and into my cart with my cane!
(announcer voice) “This has been another episode of Crip Tips!
Brought to you by the people at “Is this a new pain or the same old one?” and “Do I have the spoons for a shower today?”
my ex was disabled and had a cane. I forgot he used to do that LOL
was quite handy, actually!
I think there's a great market being missed to combine one of those canes that end at the bottom with multiple prongs (for stability, I assume) with one of the trigger claw mechanisms for grasping objects that are out of reach (or for trying to extract toys from the big glass boxes at the arcade).
It exists.
And is too bloody expensive for a cane that isn’t made of titanium and gold.
I think three or four prongs would work better. That does seem pricey. I recently bought a folding walker, and it was only slightly more expensive. I haven't priced canes in more than 30 years, so I don't have a basis for comparison, but I would expect them to cost a lot less than a walker.0 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »I disagree with those who are concerned about the development of an unhealthy relationship between food and exercise. I’m no expert though. I found that the biggest part of losing weight was challenging mental patterns that had developed since my childhood. One of the ways I did that was to build a really strong connection in my brain between body requirements and nutritional intake. Instead of eating mindlessly or because it tastes good etc, I wanted to create a well worn path in my neural pathways that says I eat to feed my body (in addition to other things of course, but that is the biggest one that required development in my brain). So whether it’s exercising in order to eat more or exercising after I eat more, my little pea brain seems to have developed that connection and I personally think it is a healthy attitude.
I eat peanut butter cups because they taste really good and I like them and they make me happy.
I guess they have some protein in them, so... there's that.
I had one of my pumpkins last night. I saved the other one for tonight. And that one will be just as yummy as the last.
Now, here is where the healthy attitude comes in. There was a time I would have eaten BOTH and wanted another package. at the same time. Truly, there was a time I probably would have BOUGHT 2 king size packages with the INTENTION of eating both. at the same time.
Its all about moderation. Even with Reeses.
maybe especially with Reeses.
I had to completely stop even looking at the caramel or peanut butter M&Ms. I will eat the whole bag Yes. Even the party sized bag.
Gave them up a few years ago. Absolutely had to.
i havent had the caramel M&Ms
but peanut butter M&Ms
mmmmmmm
yeah. i dont buy those. well, havent in a long time, anyway. talk about mindless eating lol
When it comes to my weaknesses like that, ill only buy what im willing to eat in one sitting (if i can stretch it to two, great, but I will go ahead and plan on it for one, even if it means im over a bit that day). no way would i buy a party size bag. that would just be asking for problems. it would be like buying a 10 pack of twin wrapped PB cups and saying it was 20 servings. nope. LOL
That's an excellent rule that I live by. Even if what I'm "willing to eat in one sitting" is a 3000 calorie sort of thing, I need to be in control of what I'm choosing to eat and how much in order to stay in balance. If I'm not willing to spend the calories (and would spend them "unwillingly" if exposed to them) I would rather not have that stuff in front of me taunting me. I buy single servings of things when a single serving is mentally satisfying enough, and I plan for multi-serving things when a single serving is not satisfying. I never buy/make multiple servings expecting myself to eat a single serving if my experience taught me I have a problem moderating that food.
last week i was in excruciating pain, waiting for a CT scan. bought a package (whole package not some mini size thing, if such a thing exists of these, ive never seen them) of the wafer type (not hard cookie type) nutter butter cookies. knowing, full well, I would eat the whole thing in one day. And i did. and it came out to 3000 some odd calories. and i logged it. and i didnt regret it. and i still lost weight that week. LMAO
needless to say, i only buy about one package of those a year LOLOL fortunately they are not 'eye level' for me on the cookie aisle. they are up at the very top and i am very short, so i actually have to stand way back and LOOK for them to see and find them and then climb to get them down
yes, thats worth it, too.
LOL
Ah! Another good reason to carry a cane!
I have knocked so so soooooo many things down and into my cart with my cane!
(announcer voice) “This has been another episode of Crip Tips!
Brought to you by the people at “Is this a new pain or the same old one?” and “Do I have the spoons for a shower today?”
my ex was disabled and had a cane. I forgot he used to do that LOL
was quite handy, actually!
I think there's a great market being missed to combine one of those canes that end at the bottom with multiple prongs (for stability, I assume) with one of the trigger claw mechanisms for grasping objects that are out of reach (or for trying to extract toys from the big glass boxes at the arcade).
It exists.
And is too bloody expensive for a cane that isn’t made of titanium and gold.
I think three or four prongs would work better. That does seem pricey. I recently bought a folding walker, and it was only slightly more expensive. I haven't priced canes in more than 30 years, so I don't have a basis for comparison, but I would expect them to cost a lot less than a walker.
Depends on the canes and the walkers (zimmer for you Brits)
I’ve had canes that cost $15 and did the job.
I love my Leki walking sticks. Carbon fiber. Very light. $250 with the rubber feet. But they are not working as well as they once did.
The first walker I used was the one my husband got during cardiac rehab. That was “free” with his VA/Medicare. Probably about $75 on Amazon.
My current walker I got just a few months ago. $225. And it has many bells and whistles.
Canes can be expensive if they are made of lightweight materials. Which you definitely want if you’re using forearm crutches. Because metal forearm crutches are heavy and a pain to use.
Anyhow. Off topic. Happy to discuss further but in a dedicated disability issues thread. If others want to.
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