HCG versus lapband

As for the lapband - good luck finding a surgeon who will ethically perform the procedure on you. . .looking at your photo it doesn't seem that you have much more weight to lose.

I feel that unless the procedure is for life-saving (ie. hundreds of pounds) purposes it should not be done... you are making a permanent change to the anatomy of your digestive system and this is not to be taken lightly because you will have to change your entire life forever.

In all actuality, any surgeon will perform the surgery on you, as long as you have the cash for it. Most insurance companies now want you to be a certain BMI before the procedure will even be considered. Even then, you have to show proof sometimes of you trying other non-surgical diets, like Weight Watchers, a doctor-written diet plan, etc.... and show that it wasn't effective.

Luckily there are insurance companies. . .assuming you guys are in the USA where the medical industry is extremely different and very driven by $$. . . i'm sure you're probably right that any surgeon would do it for the money. But would that be doing it ethically?

Ok look...I have been on and off of diets my whole life, I have a lot of self control issues and basically I have lost a lot of faith that I can do this on my own. I understand that eating right and exercising will get you to lose weight, OBVIOUSLY. I never said it didn't. I just feel like I need some help that my medical insurance will cover because I don't have money to hire a trainer or anything expensive. Not everyone has the same success by themselves. I hate how every time I post on the forums I feel attacked, all I wanted was some personal experiences from a neutral standpoint, thank you for the people that did give me that. But I don't like feeling yelled at, I wouldn't do that to anyone else. I'm not trying to find a shortcut or a crutch, just a helping hand. I would still put in all the work that your supposed to put in in achieving a healthier lifestyle.

What's funny about this is people DO usually yell and make snarky comments about HCG, (myself included) but none of that happened here. You have not been attacked from what I can see. I just read a lot of comments from people hoping that you find a healthy way to achieve your goals. You just didn't get any of the answers that you WANTED to hear. I mean this sincerely, good luck. You have everything in front of you. I personally know people who have had success with weight loss surgery, (my very best friend) and I know one person who actually DIED. So, there you go.

I personally made sure not to attack and see noone here attacking either. karin is right on.

this is actually the most civil discussion of these topics I have ever seen here.

(and I still say "neither")

You weren't, Kelly...some people take offense at anything that doesn't directly agree with what they want to hear.

Apparently the truth hurts.

I do not know anyone personally who has done HCG, so my only comment on that would be that I do not think it is healthy.

I do know someone (a coworker) who had the lap band procedure and she has had nothing but issues with it. She initially lost weight and now has gained all of it back.

Ok look...I have been on and off of diets my whole life, I have a lot of self control issues and basically I have lost a lot of faith that I can do this on my own. I understand that eating right and exercising will get you to lose weight, OBVIOUSLY. I never said it didn't. I just feel like I need some help that my medical insurance will cover because I don't have money to hire a trainer or anything expensive. Not everyone has the same success by themselves. I hate how every time I post on the forums I feel attacked, all I wanted was some personal experiences from a neutral standpoint, thank you for the people that did give me that. But I don't like feeling yelled at, I wouldn't do that to anyone else. I'm not trying to find a shortcut or a crutch, just a helping hand. I would still put in all the work that your supposed to put in in achieving a healthier lifestyle.

I also have self control 'issues'. The yelling and criticism from friends is what I NEED them to do. I don't like being told I am wrong, or am doing something irrational... but it doesn't matter. It's what keeps me in check.

Just think about it, ok?

Would that fit under the category of "constructive criticism?"

Surgery is always the last thing you should every do because there is always a chance something can go wrong and people can die. I personally, have known someone that this happened to so I would not recommend a lap band. Second, HCG is a scam, you can only eat 500 calories which is extremely unhealthy for you for many reason. If you would like, below is a thread that discusses it a bit. But several institutes (Nation Institute for Health and American College of Sports Medicine) have done the research and produced findings.


Now, I completely understand the control issues, but you made the first step to change your ways. If you push yourself to come on here every day, you can do it. If you feel like you are slipping, please make a post. Heck, many of us will personally work with you if you ask for it to improve your situation (I know if you sent me a private message, I would work with you every day if you wanted). Please keep in mind, you didn't gain weight over night, so you won't lose it over night. It takes dedication, as it would with both HCG and Lapband. It's not something you can just get done and forget about it.

What personally helped my friend lose over 100 lbs was P90X (and it's helped me lose as well). It's an in home workout program, he modified the moves until he had the strength to do them and the only person that could judge him was himself. Also, keep in mind this site is full of people who have gone through your situation and there are a ton of resource and motivation we can provide you.


http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/311640-confused-about-the-magic-1200

so, my sister's boyfriends mothers hairdresser's daughter had a friend who did both. First she did the HCG (Hungry Crazy Girl) diet and loved it, but was a hungry crazy girl, then ate everything in sight and gained it all back, so then she had the lapband done. She never learned to eat right, so she gained that all back, too.... Moral of the story is eat cleanerand work out. :flowerforyou:

Ok look...I have been on and off of diets my whole life, I have a lot of self control issues and basically I have lost a lot of faith that I can do this on my own. I understand that eating right and exercising will get you to lose weight, OBVIOUSLY. I never said it didn't. I just feel like I need some help that my medical insurance will cover because I don't have money to hire a trainer or anything expensive. Not everyone has the same success by themselves. I hate how every time I post on the forums I feel attacked, all I wanted was some personal experiences from a neutral standpoint, thank you for the people that did give me that. But I don't like feeling yelled at, I wouldn't do that to anyone else. I'm not trying to find a shortcut or a crutch, just a helping hand. I would still put in all the work that your supposed to put in in achieving a healthier lifestyle.

I also have self control 'issues'. The yelling and criticism from friends is what I NEED them to do. I don't like being told I am wrong, or am doing something irrational... but it doesn't matter. It's what keeps me in check.

Just think about it, ok?

Would that fit under the category of "constructive criticism?"

Yes. Kid gloves don't work.

I've had a couple of friends lose weight using HCG but both spoke of how horrible it was during the process. One lost over 100lbs. It can definately work, but make sure you know what you're getting into. Good luck to you.