How to kill "being hungry feeling"?
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Maybe try a keto diet? If you are going to eat twice a day (that's what I do) move it to lunch time and dinner. I eat at noon and 6 pm for example.
https://youtu.be/QKqcEb9tj_k
https://youtu.be/vMZfyEy_jpI
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makinlifehappen wrote: »Maybe try a keto diet? If you are going to eat twice a day (that's what I do) move it to lunch time and dinner. I eat at noon and 6 pm for example.
https://youtu.be/QKqcEb9tj_k
https://youtu.be/vMZfyEy_jpI
Some good info
That Dr Berg dude is one of the creepiest 'influencers' I've ever seen 🤢
He gives me bad vibes - like there is something sinister about him other than his insincerity!
I appreciate that Keto along with other 'diets' work for some people - but it's pretty faddy IMO and few people are able to sustain it in the long run.
All diets regardless of their name work to create a calorie deficit.
It's better to work out which one is easier for you to sustain - not for a short time - forever!
I don't know many people that would want to avoid carbs forever - that sounds like torture to me 😳
I have tried Keto and I lost weight and wasn't particularly hungry- but I didn't feel satisfied.
It ultimately led to a binge restrict cycle which is what 'diets' do.
To me anyway - before anyone gets their knickers in a twist 😁
It takes time and effort to find an eating pattern with foods you enjoy that keep you satiated.
Consistency is key.
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wunderking... the reason it sounds awful is you are making a straw man argument.
It would be like me saying I could never be a vegan, because I couldn't sit down and eat 6 heads of lettuce every day.
If I had to guess, low carb is just as successful as any other diet. Why? Because unlike ignorant people, who talk about something they have NO idea about, low carb is a delicious diet, which is normal food.
Today, I will have 3 eggs cooked in butter for breakfast. You COULD add some veggies, such as peppers or mushrooms. My lunch is 8 ozs. of chuck roast. You can add vegetables, like a potato, carrot, celery, onion. Dinner is a salad.. 3 cups of greens, 5 Tbsp. olive oil & vinegar dressing, a 1/4 cup of shredded cheddar, and 1/2 a large tomato.
My servings of meat are 4-8 ozs, and I add some fat, and veggies, and snack on cheeses, and macadamia nuts.
Most people on low carb are not sticking to " no carbs ". Personally, I tend to stick to 20 NET carbs or less, but if you go back and read, I didn't suggest most people would need to eat like me. I eat this way to help with health problems from eating high carb for decades. Namely congestive heart failure, and diabetes. This has gotten me off Insulin, and my meds, and helped me lose 130 lbs.
If a person loses weight, on your diet.. great, but what the OP asked is if you could recommend a diet, which gets rid of cravings, which is what we usually have, when we think we are hungry, despite eating just a few hours ago, on the recommended diet. Which is why we have an obesity epidemic.. people eat, and 3-4 hours later, they have cravings.
What I suggested in past posts, is to cut carbs UNTIL those cravings go away.. this could be 100 grams of carbs, if you cut the sugary carbs.. plenty of vegetables, nuts, seeds, cheeses, fruit, legumes, and even some starchy veggies, if your cravings go away. Yes, if that doesn't work, you might have to drop to 80, or 60 grams, and maybe cut out some starchy vegetables, and be careful about which fruits you eat, but low carb is not anything like you describe.
Last night I ate 5 ozs of N.Y Strip steak, cooked in a Tbsp. lard, and 1.5 cups broccoli boiled, then added 2 Tbsp. salted butter on top. Does that sound like 2 lbs. or pork? I had 3 eggs w/ butter, and 2 ozs. macadamia nuts, and 2 ozs. of extra sharp cheddar for lunch.
Your problem is you think low carb is high protein.. I think you are thinking of Carnivore.
There is low carb, which can describe any significant reduction in carbs, then Keto is a subset.. under 25-30 carbs, and Carnivore is a subset of Keto.. animal products only.. they do not even consume things like olive oil, certainly NO fruits & vegetables.
Currently, I am on Keto, and have done Carnivore, but I was not recommending people eat like ME.. I was suggesting they do low carb. With high FAT, not high protein. I eat about 1650 calories, and 70-100 grams of protein. My protein is actually under 20% most days, which is right around what the govt. recommends. The difference is, I eat fat which gets rid of cravings, instead of carbs, which cause cravings.
We cut fat in the 1970's, and manufacturers replaced it with sugar, so the food was edible. Since then, we have had an epidemic of obesity, diabetes, cancer, and heart disease. People are always " hungry ".
So, if you don't have any cravings.. then go ahead and tell the OP what you suggest, and let people try that out, and see if they get rid of cravings... you still have not described anything, except suggesting a " balanced " diet.
Well, guess what, I eat a diet with variety, and food I like in it, TOO, and I lost just as much weight. The difference is, I don't feel hungry between meals, and you haven't said if you ever get hungry between meals, and have to eat snacks to get to the next.. which is kind of what the OP was wondering about.. how to get rid of that.
So if you don't have a diet which ends cravings, then you really have NOTHING to offer the OP.. I'm happy you have some diet which works, but which you can't describe, other than to say, when you were hungry, even if you had blown your diet already, you would continue overeating, and not deprive yourself.
I'm not sure if you lost 65 and are at maintenance, or lost 124.. either way, congrats, but while it worked in the end, you had cravings. Most people don't succeed when they have cravings.. they overeat, and become obese, and get diseases, which is why the OP was asking how to get RID of them.. since you have NOT gotten rid of cravings, or haven't said that you did, how is your example even relevant?
What you are suggesting is have more willpower, and be good more than you are bad, as if it is the OP's fault, that the diet the govt. recommends causes cravings, overeating, obesity, cancer, diabetes, heart disease etc.
When a dietary change causes obesity & sickness for 50 years, maybe what we should do, is admit we were wrong, and reverse what we recommended.. low fat, high carb has been a disaster. The increased problems which led to the current diet recommendations, are based on lies by Ancel Keys.. rigged science, and crappy studies paid for by people who wanted you eating this way, which blamed high fat for the increase in disease, instead of sugar, and refined carbs, which started making us sick, when we started increasing them, in the 1890's on.. as we increased them, we got sicker, until Congress acted, and being idiotic politicians, they decided that the food farmers could grow cheapest, were the best foods, and sickness accelerated. We not only need to undo the past 50 years, but the 80 years before that, and go back to fatty meats, and vegetables cooked in butter & lard, and limited carbs, like fruit in season, instead of all year round.
Look at old pictures of your relatives, and see how skinny they were. My parents worked on farms, and didn't eat snacks.. we only do that because our diet causes cravings. My father was 145 lbs. when he graduated. If you look at graduations today, the kids are mostly overweight, many obese.
It would be nice if you told us how you haven't had any cravings eating the way you do, and what you eat to accomplish this.. which would actually help the OP, instead of just attacking me, for suggesting something that actually DID get rid of cravings.
If you have a diet which ALSO does this.. GREAT!! That gives people options, but if you have NO diet plan which can get rid of cravings, why are you against something that does, and why are you making up lies about what low carb is, and what meals look like?
You seem like you are very afraid others might try something which works, and causes them to succeed.
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You seem like you are very afraid others might try something which works, and causes them to succeed.
it doesnt seem like poster is afraid of that at all.
seems like thread is getting hijacked by 'keto works for me so it is good for everyone' posts as well as ad honinem attacks.5 -
Quoting myself from page 1 If there is a thread about low carb eating, sure, relevant to recomend that - but in a general thread where OP has said nothing that leads one to think that is an option she wants to follow - bit meaningless and hijacking of the topic.3
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The OP asked a question. I answered. That SHOULD be the end of it, but I was attacked by people who apparently are afraid of what I say.
Why should low carb be from a thread. I should be able to make suggestions, the same as any other poster, and not be attacked for it.
Hijacked? As far as I can tell, I made 1 post, and the rest is response to people attacking ME, like you are doing, suggesting my suggestion is not allowed, but all of the others are?
The OP made NO distinction about diet.. she asked about cravings.. something I don't have.. can you say the same? If so, the go ahead and tell us how you eat to make that happen. I'm sure the OP would appreciate another option which works.
The only other poster supporting low carb is makinlifehappen.. posted some videos. Most of this thread is not anything to do with low carb, yet somehow, we are " hijacking the thread ", and you are " making suggestions "
We are making a suggestion, based on what worked. The only difference is that you aren't saying that your suggestions will end the OP's cravings. You are trying to be helpful, I think, but as far as I can tell, most of you are in the same predicament the OP is in.. you have cravings too!
you don't want to let this drop.
So answer me this.. if you are making suggestions based on ideas you have, and I'm guessing you guys did these yourself, and still have cravings, why are you suggesting something which doesn't work?
The only ideas which might work, are ones where people actually got results, but I was attacked for pointing out cravings are not necessary, which leads me to think that you have no idea how to end these cravings, but for some reason, have lots of advice to give on the topic, despite not having a clue, and on top of that, feel it necessary to attack people who say they DO have a way to end cravings.
Why are you so afraid that someone might try it, and end their cravings? You know most people won't take my suggestion, yet the idea that maybe a few might, and the number of people losing weight, and getting healthier on LCHF, will continue to grow, because it's a lot easier to eat properly, when you aren't having cravings.
Personally, I don't know how any of you succeed when you are cravings things. I find that amazing, but sad, that you have to work so hard to overcome your cravings. I remember being like that.. it sucked.
Anyways, I will continue to respond, if you can't just let it go, because I feel too many people are attacked to silence them, and I won't let you do that to me. If you want me to go away from this thread, then drop it, and I will too, but if others feel the need to attack me for having the nerve to do exactly what they are doing.. making a suggestion.. I am more than ready to continue on.
I would suggest you get over your fear of others having a different suggestion, and stick to anything you feel could help the OP end cravings.. not deal with them, but END them, because that would actually HELP the OP, unlike your continued attacks on people.
That's how things are supposed to work.. we make suggestions, and the OP chooses what they think will work from them, and tries them, and sees what DOES work.
In that scenario, we don't need to have this fight, because you can't just let me speak.4 -
You have spoken - you have hijacked the thread with long irelevant posts, 3 or 4 of them now and made at least 3 ad honinem attacks on other posters.
so as to not be complicit in hijack I am disengaging from any more response to you.3 -
Thank You, despite your lies. I made a VERY relevant post, one that actually SOLVED the OP's problem, and attacked no one, but responded to attacks on ME.
If no one had attacked me to begin with, simply for making a suggestion, all the following posts, would not have been necessary.
When you attack me, or LIE about what I have done, I will respond, and yes, the character of the person involved is relevant. What kind of person would attack someone simply for stating a suggestion?
Others did not simply give their own suggestions, and let me be, so you have to wonder about them... what causes a person to do THAT? What makes you guys think it is OK to attack me for my suggestion, and then say me responding is somehow wrong. If I attacked your suggestion, I would expect you to respond.
Now that your lies have been corrected, if you remain disengaged from responding to you, I will have nothing more to say to you, and we can move along, but if you continue to lie or attack me, I will continue to respond.. so don't attack me, with lies, and then call quits. That won't work. I will stop responding if you do not ever address me again, but if you do, I will respond too.
Hopefully, we are done here. Have a good day.
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Walkywalkerson wrote: »makinlifehappen wrote: »Maybe try a keto diet? If you are going to eat twice a day (that's what I do) move it to lunch time and dinner. I eat at noon and 6 pm for example.
https://youtu.be/QKqcEb9tj_k
https://youtu.be/vMZfyEy_jpI
Some good info
That Dr Berg dude is one of the creepiest 'influencers' I've ever seen 🤢
He gives me bad vibes - like there is something sinister about him other than his insincerity!
I appreciate that Keto along with other 'diets' work for some people - but it's pretty faddy IMO and few people are able to sustain it in the long run.
All diets regardless of their name work to create a calorie deficit.
It's better to work out which one is easier for you to sustain - not for a short time - forever!
I don't know many people that would want to avoid carbs forever - that sounds like torture to me 😳
I have tried Keto and I lost weight and wasn't particularly hungry- but I didn't feel satisfied.
It ultimately led to a binge restrict cycle which is what 'diets' do.
To me anyway - before anyone gets their knickers in a twist 😁
It takes time and effort to find an eating pattern with foods you enjoy that keep you satiated.
Consistency is key.
Personally as someone who finds a way to find everything outrageously funny I appreciate his rare and dry sense of humor. He doesn't laugh at anything.
I think all diets are a fad until we find what works for us long term at which point it becomes our way of life.
Diets don't have to be only about reduction in calories, they can be about changing habits ie consuming food that is good for you rather than food you like.
Avoiding cabs isn't that hard, so long as you keep yourself satiated. But I do know that you have to find what works for you. Some prefer higher carb foods.
Consistency is key. And knowledge is power.
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makinlifehappen wrote: »Walkywalkerson wrote: »makinlifehappen wrote: »Maybe try a keto diet? If you are going to eat twice a day (that's what I do) move it to lunch time and dinner. I eat at noon and 6 pm for example.
https://youtu.be/QKqcEb9tj_k
https://youtu.be/vMZfyEy_jpI
Some good info
That Dr Berg dude is one of the creepiest 'influencers' I've ever seen 🤢
He gives me bad vibes - like there is something sinister about him other than his insincerity!
I appreciate that Keto along with other 'diets' work for some people - but it's pretty faddy IMO and few people are able to sustain it in the long run.
All diets regardless of their name work to create a calorie deficit.
It's better to work out which one is easier for you to sustain - not for a short time - forever!
I don't know many people that would want to avoid carbs forever - that sounds like torture to me 😳
I have tried Keto and I lost weight and wasn't particularly hungry- but I didn't feel satisfied.
It ultimately led to a binge restrict cycle which is what 'diets' do.
To me anyway - before anyone gets their knickers in a twist 😁
It takes time and effort to find an eating pattern with foods you enjoy that keep you satiated.
Consistency is key.
Personally as someone who finds a way to find everything outrageously funny I appreciate his rare and dry sense of humor. He doesn't laugh at anything.
I think all diets are a fad until we find what works for us long term at which point it becomes our way of life.
Diets don't have to be only about reduction in calories, they can be about changing habits ie consuming food that is good for you rather than food you like.
Avoiding cabs isn't that hard, so long as you keep yourself satiated. But I do know that you have to find what works for you. Some prefer higher carb foods.
Consistency is key. And knowledge is power.
I'm not American - maybe his 'humour' is lost in translation 🤢
But all 'jokes' aside I agree with you that all diets are a fad.
To reduce your weight and to be able to sustain the weight loss - you need to consume foods you enjoy - preferably healthy ones - but why would you eat foods you don't enjoy?
And I hate to say it and I wish it wasn't so but weight loss is all about CICO.
There are some variables - but you have to burn more calories than you consume- there is no magic formula.
I personally try to avoid fast carbs as they are a binge trigger for me - but I won't eliminate them.
I enjoy it, log it and move on.
My way isn't the right way for everyone- but at 46yrs old and being on 'diets' most of my adult life I know they don't work.
Eliminating whole food groups is not sustainable forever.
I lost 53 lbs last year and I did it with small changes.
I still have 20 lbs to go which won't budge but that's another story 🙄
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You’re hungry because you’re skipping dinner. Try to eat around the same time every day for each meal, for example, I try to eat breakfast between 9-10, lunch 11-1, dinner 5-10. It depends on the day for me. Secondly, you should eat when your hungry. Snack on rice cakes or carrots or apples, eat a spoonful of peanut butter, drink more water. You got this ❤️1
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For me what works is having some form of protein in the late afternoon (usually between 1 and 3 pm). It can be a couple of eggs, some tofu, or tuna most of the time.0
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Ask yourself: "Do people who live in North American above 43 degrees latitude feel cold all the time?" I know I would regardless of how I dressed for the weather.
I pose this question because we know that many people who live in places like Toronto are not at all uncomfortable. How can that be I would ask. I'd be cold all the time.
There is nothing wrong with feeling hungry. Its just different for different people.
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Fiber is your friend. Up your fiber and you won't be hungry.1
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Try sugar free jello or tea. Also a little of white wine can relax you and distract you from thinking about food 😊0
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