Less Alcohol ~ JANUARY 2022 ~ One Day At A Time
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It's nice to hear people getting honest with themselves....meaning starting to define what goals they want, what progress means to them. Introspection is important...meaning where you are and where you want to go...and being okay with the slow pace of success. How fast you get there is not critical. What is very important is just allowing yourself to go....and have no fear...in case you fall many times over just know it's human and we get really good at adapting and getting better.9
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@Lilylady3k - she is just gorgeous, you. It’s all be so proud and in love 😍 thanks for sharing the pictures
So far I’m 5AF, this evening was a bit of a struggle…but….. done!8 -
QUICK CHECK IN:
I need 3 step program to get me off the goodies people have dropped off for us during the holidays.
I thought I had frozen most of the cookies, candies, breads. Then last night I saw another goodie in the cupboard.
Today I feel yucky for eating something so yummy and sweet so late in the evening.
I should have slid a sock over it!
AF 5/5
Sweets and goodies ~ not good9 -
mom2kateRH wrote: »Reading all these comments is inspirational. I definitely struggle with the "just one" drink as well, so I'm just going AF. So far, I feel really good. I'm sleeping SO much better. I wake up early (before my alarm), but sleep through the night. Which is new for me! I'm used to waking up several times a night.
The witching hour is tough. I need to find a hobby that uses my hands to distract me (both from snacking and drinking)
The sleep with less alcohol is amazing! I notice it too. Bliss!
Have you tried knitting or crocheting? Or needlepoint?6 -
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Happy new year, all. My goal, broadly, has been to drink less and enjoy more. The way I have framed it, specifically, is still pretty challenging to me. 2 parts:
1) drinks on weekends- I think abstaining during the week has helped me enjoy more on weekends, like it is more of an occasion. It has become habit enough that it's not too challenging because I mostly don't even think about it. E.g. a vacuvin-ed bottle of wine on the kitchen counter left over from the weekend isn't bothersome. But come the weekend...
2) 2 drinks limit- I suck at this. I make the same old excuses to give myself "permission" go drink more-- I have calories for it, I'm not driving, kids aren't around... come on! These are terrible reasons to overconsume. After one drink I want another, but honestly, after 2 drinks I want another. And after 3 drinks sometimes too. Like the feeling at the end of the glass isn't variable. I'm playing with the idea of just trying a 1 drink limit for a while to see if I have more success -- and overall enjoyment-- with that. It can be a big or fancy drink, but just one. And no argument with myself after that. I don't know. Undecided.
Oh man, I totally hear you! It is so easy to justify drinking. You’re not alone- the struggle is real!6 -
@lmlmrn - Love our mascot with his plastic glass hat ... implying empty cup and no more drinking cause the bottle is socked??? LOL
Last night my sister dropped by and DH went to SPECS to pick up wine. Needless to say ... 3 glasses of wine later for me. If I had stopped at 2 then I would not have broken any of my self imposed rules. But you know how it goes ...
First you take a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes you.
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4 AF days done. Valentine's chocolates are out in the stores already. I wonder if I should start grocery delivery so the stores don't tempt me to buy junk on impulse. It would help keep me away from the wine too. I guess it will cost more but then again I'd buy less - and avoid temptation. Hmm...7
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@Fit_Happens_2021 oh geez, you’re testing my memory here. I think it’s been almost two years since I did the alcohol experiment. One thing that registered with me is the whole dopamine cycle issue she discusses early on, and how when you try to sleep your body is trying to get back to equilibrium. Hence, bad sleep. I always think of that. Also, it really got me thinking about the fact that My drinking was a mindless habit, vs. a conscious choice. On the whole, it was a worthwhile exercise, but I never stopped drinking. I even drank during TAE if that tells you anything about my state of mind back then! But, it did have a lasting impression on me that I continued to ask myself “do I really want alcohol, or is this just a habit” many more times than not.
I did really well with the 21 Day Sugar Detox (I believe the website is www.21dsd.com) by Diane Sanfillipo. No alcohol, and depending on a questionnaire, there are three levels and types of carbs. The theory is most of us eat way more sugar (found in food and alcohol) than we need for energy, and all that extra glucose leads to inflammation. Of course alcohol is a big inflammatory!
Where I have difficulty is re-incorporating alcohol and anything in the bread family back into my diet afterwards. I know the befits of keeping these at arms length, yet resolve crumbles.
Yesterday was a very busy and stressful day at work. I was mentioning at work how I can’t wait to get home and have a glass of wine. So, when I got home, I made the choice to have a glass, and I hate to say it, but it helped! I stopped at one, which is great, but I’m a big girl and consciously made the choice to pour the wine. My goal is less alcohol, not “no alcohol”, so the fact that I made a choice vs. mindlessly drinking out of habit, and stopping at only one, is actually a win for me!13 -
@Womona I definitely hear you on the sleep issue! I am struggling with sleep still, but I think it was quite a bit better last night, and now day 5 AF is behind me. I am interested to see if cutting out alcohol helps with my joint issues as I am being tested for rheumatoid arthritis, and I have osteo in my hips, spine, and hands. TAE has been really eye opening for me, I didn't know about the dopamine and all the chemical cycles in our brains, now it all makes sense! Having lots of 'Aha' moments
@Xellercin Congratulations on two years AF!!! I will look up Allen Carr, I am receptive to a blunt approach as it gels well with my own approach to life, but I also understand that could be off putting for some. I am at the point now of wondering how I have drank almost daily for so many years without ever looking into what is really going on inside me. Feels like an awakening, almost like an epiphany (coincidence that I feel this on the 6th Jan? Maybe ) but I am nothing if not realistic. I know that I am 'riding the wave' right now, and it has limited milage. I'll milk what I can out of it while it lasts and try to lay solid groundwork for when it peters out.
Jan 1-5 AF6 -
Is TAE the same as The Naked Mind by Annie Grace?1
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The Alcohol Experiment is a 30 day free program under the Annie Grace This Naked Mind umbrella.
ETA: She also has books for sale and a closed community for sale and podcasts for free and I'm not sure what else... probably coaching for sale, so TAE isn't exactly synonymous with This Naked Mind. There are other programs in addition.4 -
Is TAE the same as The Naked Mind by Annie Grace?
The Alcohol Experiment (TAE) is a 30 day free online program by Annie Grace, the same person who wrote the book The Naked Mind. I sound like an advert LOL - I am working though it and finding it super helpful and informative so far. I'm only on day 5.4 -
5!!! AF days in a row! I don't remember the last time I could say that!
I am definitely sleeping better which is translating to focusing better and more energy.7 -
Remaining mindful here. Finished a shift, home 5.30. Normal me would have opened a bottle at 5.30 and be halfway through it by now. Mindful me put dinner in the oven and went for a 2.5 mile run. Now drinking a pint of water. I will have a drink tonight, there's half a bottle on the side, but it's definitely *less alcohol*9
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@Womona really great you enjoyed a nice glass of wine … then stopped! This is what I would really like to be able to do and using my AF time currently to work out how things might look going forward. My husband has been enjoying his red wine without it really bothering me. I switched from red (which I loved) to Prosecco because of the hangover I got with red. That meant I could drink MORE Prosecco!!
I intend to go back to red, sharing with my husband and limiting my glasses too. 🤞that plan will work.
Currently 6/6 AF
It’s so lovely to hear how everyone is getting on and doing so well 😊7 -
This I have said before, I find it note worthy to repeat ~
Before January of 2018 I struggled beyond belief with wanting to DRINK LESS. It was a back and forth battle with myself. So many emotions and worries:
°How would I have fun?
°Would I still have friends?
°How would I cope with stressful situations?
°Is it too late to get my health back?
°What would others think or say about my choice?
The above questions for me were all answered with positive results.
Not kidding myself that I would never have another drop was my biggest break thru.
Limits set, not total restriction.
Quality, not quanity.
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This is great stuff!
I am 35 and went through a divorce last summer. My ex and I stopped drinking off and on over our 12 years together. We tried limiting, rewarding, cold turkey and in the end we always went back to drinking. Throughout our relationship, the alcohol abuse made an angry and verbally abusive side come out of my ex husband. After these bad drunken episode I, or we, would pour all the alcohol down the drain and swear it off. Eventually we would say "just one beer", then "just a bottle of wine" pretty soon we would be back to drinking all forms of alcohol pretty much on a daily basis.
I never considered myself an alcoholic though at different times, I drank pretty close to every day. I always thought of alcoholics as people who drink a bottle of liquor, wine, or a six pack daily and cannot function without it or drive drunk. We use to say things like "tough day, time for a drink", "it's the weekend, time for a drink" "celebration, sad, happy, sunny, stormy, worked out, calories left....its time for a drink." In the end, it was always time for a drink. I don't know what officially labels a person as an alcoholic but I don't want to be one.
In the last 2 years of our marriage, we were separated. I cut back considerably on my alcohol consumption. I just couldn't emotionally afford it. My ex went the other direction. Though we didn't exactly get divorced because of alcohol, I believe the addiction and medicating that went on by my ex, made it difficult for him to work on the things he needed to to save our marriage.
Recently I found out my ex has been in a relationship for a while. Though I have made huge strides in my personal growth in many areas of my life, this came as a hug shock and was hard for me to process. After some inward reflection and reminding myself of my own worth, I decided that I really needed to make sure nothing was inhibiting me from doing the things I love that make me a healthy and stable person. I have neglected my body off and on for the last several years. It's easy to do when your married and have a partner in crime, and when you have relational issues. I have always been an active person as well so it was easy to write off alcohol consumption, and overeating because I didn't really think it stopped me. In the end, the truth is, I would feel better if I felt better. LOL! Literally if I ate better and cut back even more on my drinking, I would feel better. I know how confident and happy I am when I am in shape and don't sit down to alcohol every night and weekend.
So, my goal is to:
- participate in this discussion and follow some of the recommendations for reading.
- more AF days than not in a week. ie, AF 4/7 days.
- limit myself to 1-2 drinks on these days
- follow the 12oz/5oz/1.5oz rule per drink
My weeks will be Mon-Sun. It is currently Thursday and I have had 1-3 drinks every day except today this week so my goal is to finish the week without drinking.
Jan 3-9: AF
Here's to an even healthier me in 2022!!!15 -
^ thanks for the share
Just FYI, "alcoholic" has no medical definition, it's more of an AA term. In fact, "addiction" is even being phased out and no longer the appropriate medical term. It's now "substance use disorder," which is much broader and basically means you don't use a substance in a healthy way.
The definition of a substance problem is if it negatively affects your life and you still feel compelled to use it. That's it. By that definition, MANY "normal drinkers" have a problem.
I really hope this outdated and problematic notion of the "alcoholic" disappears, because for so many people the thought "well I'm not an alcoholic" is what holds them back from seeking any support in cutting back or quitting.
Congrats on taking back control over your own relationship with alcohol and your health.8 -
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@cowgirlslikeus86 I don't know whether to welcome you first, or to thank you first, for your VERY POWERFUL post.
Your writings will resonate with many of us on here in one way or another.
I can see my past self in so many of the same situations you wrote about with the same wonderings about where the line is as to being or not being considered an alcoholic.
Yes do put you first, take care of what makes you happy and don't look back.6 -
It's so easy to find excuses to drink (and to overeat!). I was thinking the other day of how stressful the past 2 years have been for those of us who work in healthcare, so of course I over indulged! But, then I realized, life has been stressful for everyone, not just healthcare workers. And life is always stressful. So, realize that, accept it, and find better coping mechanisms! (That's what I'm telling myself, to be clear. Not trying to lecture anyone!) If I make a conscious choice to have a glass of wine with dinner (as was mentioned by another wise poster above), that's fine and acceptable. But if I'm drinking just to drink because I'm stressed, and I don't even think about it,that's not good.
Ahh, and sleep really is better7 -
Jan 1 AF
Jan 2 AF
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Jan 6 - 2 glasses of wine8 -
Boy so many posts and I can see so much of me in every single one! From the stress, to justifying, to over indulging, to ____put your words here. I started this journey Jan 2021 and now a year later it is still daunting but not as overwhelming. I am approaching things different this year. More of being kind to myself when I get derailed. Right now like several here I am trying the TAE for 30 days. Will I stay drink free? dunno, will I can knowledge? You bet. I like that the video's are 15min or less so that is doable.
And yes some of it would be super easy to tune out as 'you heard it before' but I am listening.
Oh, In case you are wondering......sock man has a hang over. Glad I stayed home and AF LOL9 -
Turtlemummy wrote: »Remaining mindful here. Finished a shift, home 5.30. Normal me would have opened a bottle at 5.30 and be halfway through it by now. Mindful me put dinner in the oven and went for a 2.5 mile run. Now drinking a pint of water. I will have a drink tonight, there's half a bottle on the side, but it's definitely *less alcohol*
That’s awesome! That is so huge. Good for you!5 -
It was “wine night” at work, so had a glass with my awesome co-workers. Quick dinner and off to bed for me. We have one more glass left in the open bottle at home, but I’m saving that for the weekend. Just didn’t want a second tonight.
@cowgirlslikeus86 welcome, and thank you for sharing your story. It’s always a shock and a kick in the gut when an ex moves on to someone else, even if your normal thought about them is “don’t let the door hit you on the *kitten* on your way out.” But great job using it as a time to reflect, and move on.8 -
Posting for accountability. Today is my 13th straight day AF.
12/25-12/31 AF
1/1-1/6 AF
I have been sleeping so much better the last week or so. Although I normally only drank 1 or 2 drinks in the evening it definitely impacted the quality of my sleep.
I enjoy reading about all of your journeys and it helps me to know I am not alone.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to lose the Diet Coke habit I am all ears. That is definitely a bigger addiction for me than the alcohol (although probably not as big of a negative impact on my health.)8 -
mom2kateRH wrote: »It's so easy to find excuses to drink (and to overeat!). I was thinking the other day of how stressful the past 2 years have been for those of us who work in healthcare, so of course I over indulged! But, then I realized, life has been stressful for everyone, not just healthcare workers. And life is always stressful. So, realize that, accept it, and find better coping mechanisms! (That's what I'm telling myself, to be clear. Not trying to lecture anyone!) If I make a conscious choice to have a glass of wine with dinner (as was mentioned by another wise poster above), that's fine and acceptable. But if I'm drinking just to drink because I'm stressed, and I don't even think about it,that's not good.
Ahh, and sleep really is better
For me, my most stressful years were the two years before the pandemic. I'm also a healthcare professional and was working under horrific, and unlivable conditions at the time, and that's the drinking that prompted me to quit.
Now that I've quit though, I can see clearly that the drinking made the stress much, much worse.
The brain actually *enhances* the experience of stress to get you to drink more.
I'll never forget when I finally was able to detect this happening. I had been sober for a few months, and was quit certain I didn't want to drink ever again.
My horrible work conditions were over, so that stress was gone. And I had a long, frustrating day that was very intense while it was happening, but was a stress that I could just walk away from.
However, even though the stress was intense and extremely frustrating, but nothing serious, by the end of the day, I was in my car, amped as hell with agitation, and started telling myself that I NEEDED some wine that night. This was an exceptional day, and exceptional stress, I could NOT bear it, and I absolutely NEEDED wine to cope with what I had gone through.
Except...my day had been a total joke compared to what I had faced the entire year before. Sure I dealt with something extremely frustrating, and had been at it for hours. But I only did it to help out my mom. There was nothing on the line for me personally beyond dealing with someone else's intense stress while they drove me up the wall.
I had been drinking the year before to cope with very serious stresses that legitimately put my safety in danger. I spent the entirety of 2019 scared utterly shitless, that's why I felt I needed to drink.
This silly nonsense I was stressed by that particular day was NOTHING compared to what I had already faced down for two years.
That's when it hit me that my own brain was gaslighting me to get me to drink. My own brain was exaggerating my feeling that I couldn't cope with the day's stress so that I would open a bottle of wine and feed the specific part of my brain that still wanted alcohol even though I didn't.
After observing this happen repeatedly, I started seeing more clearly why I drank through 2018 and 2019 and felt like I needed to.
I also saw clearly how my daily wine habit actually made my experience of all of that stress so much worse because my brain was purposefully making all of my stress feel more unmanageable.
I've dealt with some seriously ugly stresses since I became sober, and it turns out I'm actually spectacularly able to manage stress. Even the kind that scares the crap out of me.
I almost never get that overwhelmed feeling I did when I was drinking. I still feel the stress, it's still incredibly uncomfortable, but it never feels like I can't cope with it.
So I thought the wine was helping me, but it turns out that intense stress is WAY EASIER to deal with without it. Like, shockingly easier to deal with.
To put in in perspective, I recently found out that I need both of my legs broken in a process of 6 surgeries with a recovery that will be at least 2 years, during which time I will barely be able to function. There's also a solid chance that the surgery leaves me with permanent pain.
I can handle that now with time to process the feelings, some really good therapy, and a diligent mindfulness habit. It's TERRIFYING, but at no point have I felt like I can't handle it.
Two years ago? I could barely handle a spat with my mom without feeling a consuming need to numb with wine.
It still upsets me that wine never actually helped me through anything. I look back on the decade that I leaned on alcohol thinking it was supporting me, and I can see clear as day that those years would have been so much easier, and so much less stressful had I not done that.
I'm just so grateful I quit before I ended up looking back on more than one decade with that regret.
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@Xellercin what a powerful story, thank you for sharing. I have no words to tell you how your journey moved me. I feel blessed that you graced us with your words.5
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