Advice to stop being a fat ***?
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Would love to hear from someone who has overcome being a fat ***. I can't seem to get motivated and I lack the dedication to work out and eat healthier. I have no interest in joining a gym, I can't imagine getting into a home workout routine, and I have no interests. I've struggled with depression my entire life and I'm not taking medication. I don't drink or do any kind of drugs to self medicate, which is a good thing. I know I would feel better if I worked out and/or ate better, but I feel dead inside.
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A few things... Step 1: If you struggle with depression, get help. It sounds like you aren't coping with it on your own, so until you have a handle on it with some professional help it's going to be hard to deal with any other areas of your life.
Step 2: Once you get your depression under control, THEN you can start gaining control of your weight by concentrating on eating less and/or moving more. Hate to work out? You don't actually have to! You can simply eat less and still lose weight without any exercise.
Many people find success with small changes and patience. As you lose, you may find you have more energy and actually feel like moving to Step 3: taking a walk or lifting some dumbbells are a good way to start.
The key for me was that I had to be mentally ready and DECIDE that I was going to commit to this process. Once I got to that point, it was really creating a series of small, achievable goals. Give yourself time. Give yourself permission to fail on the occasional small goal, but stay with it and you CAN get there. Thousands of people on MFP are proof-positive that anyone can do it, especially with community help and support.
Good luck!9 -
Thank you so much for the helpful advice!0
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You know you better than anyone else, so I ask you:
What are you willing to do? (No "should's" allowed.)5 -
Motivation has to come within. How badly do you want it? If the answer isn't "really badly", then you won't be successful5
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2 things that worked for me: a routine and discipline. (Being lazy has always been my foe.. I stress too much and it’s easy to just want comfort on days off.. this is where the discipline came in.)
A routine helped with planning and preparing meals.. and above all .. discipline for portion control/ limiting my calories and making wiser food choices for my body.
A lot of people talk about motivation .. I think anyone just needs to want to make a change and do the work necessary to make the change a success.
If one day you overeat, jump back on the next day..4 -
To build on the theme of “motivation comes from within”… what does motivate you, or what has in the past? Not even just for health/fitness, but in life? Is it rewards? Recognition? Money? Answer that question, then figure out a way to apply it to your health goals.
My own example: I love getting a good deal and hate wasting money. I have a Fitbit and compete in StepBet challenges. I’m too cheap to lose my initial wager and I’m stoked about getting paid to exercise. I earned enough in 2022 to pay for my pricey walking shoes and then some.
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Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »You know you better than anyone else, so I ask you:
What are you willing to do? (No "should's" allowed.)
Good advice. I know a few things I'm willing to start.1 -
I_AM_ISRAEL wrote: »Stop eating *kitten* foods. Go for a walk every day to get some of that vitamin D. Sleep well every night. Limit electronics exposure.
Meditate on Christ, the oil within that makes all things new
What's a kitten food?2 -
Rockmama1111 wrote: »To build on the theme of “motivation comes from within”… what does motivate you, or what has in the past? Not even just for health/fitness, but in life? Is it rewards? Recognition? Money? Answer that question, then figure out a way to apply it to your health goals.
My own example: I love getting a good deal and hate wasting money. I have a Fitbit and compete in StepBet challenges. I’m too cheap to lose my initial wager and I’m stoked about getting paid to exercise. I earned enough in 2022 to pay for my pricey walking shoes and then some.
That's a really good question. What motivates me? I like feeling good. I like saving money. Right now what I'm doing isn't making me feel good. I'd be saving money if I didn't eat as much.1 -
My motivation only came after I took some small steps first.
For example, I logged everything I ate without any changes. Once I saw how much I was overeating, I had some numbers I could start working with.
I also started by just weighing myself everyday and used a charting tool (Libra). Seeing the trend going up made me realise the worst thing wasn't that I was maintaining but I was actually still gaining.
For exercise I started doing just 5 minutes each day. I would start a YouTube video and only do 5 minutes. After a while I felt like doing more so I gradually increased the time.
I actually created a chart that had these few steps that I could tick off each day. It sounds childish but seeing all the ticks helped me to keep the momentum going. I then created a new chart with new goals after 2 weeks.
Best of luck with finding the strategy that works for you.6 -
refactored wrote: »My motivation only came after I took some small steps first.
I love this idea of starting slow and tracking my intake and food. I think i underestimate what i put in my mouth. I don't weigh myself, and i don't exercise at all, so a lot I can start working on. Would be interesting to start tracking from ground zero. Thank you.1 -
Honestly, seeing a therapist was THE game changer for me. It turns out there were many small things I wasn't doing because I wasn't "motivated" to do them. The reality was I was stressed, anxious, and depressed, and treating those things helped me have the mental energy to do the smaller self-care tasks, which, in turn, worked me up to doing bigger things like going for walks, eating better, etc.
I also work in the mental health field myself, and I can say without a doubt that mental health is absolutely the biggest factor when it comes to a lack of motivation/desire to do things.6 -
actualbearss you are right in that mental health is the biggest factor in lack of motivation/desire to do things. I feel slow and heavy and moving is difficult. Sometimes I feel too lazy to roll over in bed eventhough I know I'd be more comfortable in another position.0
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Other posters have given really good advice, but I thought I would throw in one personal experience re: exercise: I didn't have any interest in it until I had already lost some weight. It is *hard* to move a heavier body; harder than it is for a lighter person just because the body is bigger! When I was at my top weight a couple of years ago, I did feel absolutely awful in body. I focused only on diet for a while because exercise was painful and annoying and adjusting the food habit was hard enough. I had already done a lot of mental health work and recovery and was in a good place in most other areas of my life, and still found it incredibly difficult to feel motivated to move more than I had to.
But after I lost a few pounds, suddenly taking a walk seemed doable. Maybe even fun. Maybe I could walk instead of drive for a couple of errands. Then I lost a few more and wanted to move even more. I got to a point where if I didn't move a lot during the day I would get antsy and irritable and feel like I just had to *do* something. Then I got interested in lifting heavy things, which I would have sworn before I lost the weight that I would never have any interest in! I became a person who got excited about working out and testing my limits and seeing what I could do, and if I could get better.
The motivations for doing these things comes and goes, but one really nice thing about forming good habits is the cascading effect - things begin clicking into place as long as you start somewhere. It won't look the same for every person, but discipline begets discipline, in my experience. You don't have to run a marathon the first day, or have the perfect nutrition, or sleep schedule. But improving one over time is likely to yield results in the other areas if you stick with it, and even though you're doing more it probably won't feel as hard by then.9 -
penguinmama87 wrote: »Other posters have given really good advice, but I thought I would throw in one personal experience re: exercise: I didn't have any interest in it until I had already lost some weight.
Darn good advice on exercise. I walked a little today. Not sure how/if I will get into that routine, but I wish I was still outside walking. I've cut back on my food intake the past few days and already feel like I have more energy. I hope I don't fall into old habits. Your words are encouraging though. Thank you ❤️
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I_AM_ISRAEL wrote: »Stop eating *kitten* foods. Go for a walk every day to get some of that vitamin D. Sleep well every night. Limit electronics exposure.
Meditate on Christ, the oil within that makes all things new
What's a kitten food?
It’s the cat food diet. Very popular in these parts. A bite or two of Little Friskies and you’re pretty much done for the day. The weight melts off.
Seriously, MFP replaces any cuss word with *kitten*, so no one is offended. Sometimes the word their algorithm replaces is totally random, which leads to some entertaining posts.
My first advice to you would be to stop calling yourself names.
I came up sharing a bathroom with a mother who would often look in the mirror, hit herself, and start wailing “D, you ugly stupid fat *kitten*”.
So I had that attitude myself. Who better to hate me, than me, right? If I have dibs on that, then I can’t be surprised when no one else likes me either.
One of the things I had to do was turn it on its ear and decide, ya know what? I’m a pretty unique, cool, interesting individual, and deserve to love myself. Once I was free to actually like myself, losing weight was easier. It no longer became a barrier to hide behind from all the “hateful” people.
It still flares it’s ugly head, but you have to take a deep breath and tell yourself, those people probably don’t give you two toots, and besides, they’re too busy hating their own selves or life or job or family to invest time and energy in hating you.5 -
And PS: stop using the words don’t, can’t, won’t.
Ask yourself why not?
I never thought I’d join a gym, lift weights (albeit little tiny piddly weights compared to some of the superstars here).
I NEVER thought I’d enjoy running. Last time I ran was Presidents test in the very early 70’s. But I challenged myself to take it up at 57 and dammit, I may run slow as molasses in January, but I do and I enjoy it. (I’m not trying to get my speed up any due to clumsy feet and several bad falls. Instead I focus on the simple joy of being able to run).
So for forty plus years, I shortchanged myself with “won’t enjoy” and “can’t do it”.
Words matter. They become part of your being and your subconscious perception of your own abilities.8 -
And PPS: you can continue eating the *kitten* food. Eat any darn thing you want.
But weigh your food and log it.
If you choose to continue that’s up to you.
But for me - and YMMV- weighing and logging led to cognizance of the “cost” of calories, and how darn hard it was to burn those same calories off.
That led in turn to better choice.
I made it a game and a personal challenge to stay within my calorie goal each day. I pre-log my calories a few days out and adjust them on the fly if I unexpectedly go out to dinner, discover the old husband has eaten the leftover roast chicken destined for my wrap or salad, or decide I want an extra snack or chocolate instead of whatever I’d planned.
It’s like Tetris, and can actually be interesting and…dare I say…. Fun.
It’s all in the attitude you bring to the table. Literally, lol.9 -
Every journey began with one step. I would get help for your depression. You don't have to feel that way....there is help for this. You can do this and we will all support this. Wishing you all the very best....you got this!2
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springlering62 wrote: »And PS: stop using the words don’t, can’t, won’t.
Thank you for the advice and sharing some of your background. I appreciate your words of wisdom! What you said about not hating yourself makes sense and it's something I need to work on. I get down on myself when I eat poorly. Sometimes I pick myself up and don't feel.too bad and just get back to eating better. It's a challenge though.
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The bottom line is if you don’t get what you want you didn’t want it bad enough. This is true for fitness and diet. Unless you have some sort of medical issue the only roadblock is between your ears. When you want change bad enough you’ll make it happen. If you don’t, you won’t.
Now get out there and get cracking’6 -
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »The bottom line is if you don’t get what you want you didn’t want it bad enough. This is true for fitness and diet. Unless you have some sort of medical issue the only roadblock is between your ears. When you want change bad enough you’ll make it happen. If you don’t, you won’t.
Now get out there and get cracking’
That is so true! I've got a roadblock between my ears big time. I want to be less lazy, but then I think, "I'm a healthy weight and have never been overweight." In the past few months I've noticed that my pants are tighter and I really don't want to buy bigger clothes, which is making me want to change my ways. The changes I've made so far are really small, like switching to monk fruit sugar or Stevia in my coffee, and eating string beans and mustard or hummus instead of pita chips for a snack.2 -
It's great that you're trying out different foods when you snack and have coffee! Small steps lead to big strides. My first thought was that depression/bipolar depression/clinical depression - they are all treatable with medication, counseling, a good sleep routine, getting outside to take walks. The challenge is that when you're depressed, the last thing you want to do is make an appointment with a psychiatrist or general physician, drag yourself out of bed, get dressed, get in the car, wait in the waiting room. But since you've been able to switch to Stevia, I'd bet you can pick up a phone and make either a doctor or a counseling appointment, amirite? I've had to do that. It's all helped me and now I can access motivating thoughts and change my (old) lazy behaviors. If you have enough money to invest in yourself, get yourself to a running store and be professionally fitted for a good pair of tennis shoes. The next day, take a 15 minute walk around your neighborhood or a local park. When you get home, celebrate your accomplishment somehow. I swear, if you address depression and pretend to be motivated, you'll actually be motivated within a couple of weeks. Good luck!1
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I have found I started with just one thing, I chose to start drinking more water...I am actually getting my 8+ glasses in everyday for last full week. I am writing everybite and restarted a walk a day. I am not doing a long walk, but it is activity! I am very proud of myself as I was eating junk everyday, sitting on couch ALL day everyday before. I don/t know how long it will last but I am happier because I have accomplished something. Hope this helps and yes, i am also being treated for depression but that is not new.
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I absolutely love all the advice given here!! It’s true wanting to do better and be better has to come deep inside of yourself. Losing weight is the one thing only you can do for yourself. Making changes isn’t easy. Losing weight isn’t easy. I don’t think anyone wants to self sabotage themselves but we do. We are human. We make mistakes. I started small. I think someone else said this. I began to drink water. I’ve hated water my entire life. Strange right. I always say it’s for bathing and cooking. But I made the change. Slowly over time it began to be a habit. Reaching for water instead of a diet soda. Next I worked on my eating after 8 pm. I’m a night owl and consumed most of my after that time. Chips and sweets are my go to comfort make me feel better foods. I started measuring them. Then I started choosing one or the other and eventually I gave them up all together.
I’m not here because I know everything g. I’m here to open up to learning the process of living a healthier me. We learn through experiences and through others That’s why I’m here.6 -
@kmcintosh1988 you are right that losing weight is the one thing you can do for yourself. It's been a struggle and you are correct in that it is not easy. I also eat too much in the evening. I also eat when I bored on the weekends. Both are habits I need to get under control.0
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I want to hug you. I know exactly how you feel because I was right there. I still cry about my terror. I lived in that bubble for two years, the Dr told me I needed to stop drinking, stop smoking, stop eating, start excercise and take a handful of pills. The Dr told Mr. that he needed open heart surgery. That did it. 12 hours sitting in my car waiting for hourly phone calls from the operating room. Scared the F out of me. I could not imagine my life without him. I don’t want to lose him or die yet myself. I want at least another 20 years with him…I’m 52 he’s 66. He spent 5 days in hospital and I cleaned and refilled every cupboard. He came home Oct 27. Today he is down 35 pounds, 5 more to go. I am down 30, 81# to go. My depression and anxiety are gone. My blood pressure has gone from the 150’s/90’s to 115/75. My fibromyalgia has quit being a persistent pain (~95% diminished) arthritis pain is down to ~25%. My chronic post nasal drip and cough (3 years chronic) is gone. I sleep like a pro. I don’t get sleepy in the afternoon. Our acid reflux is Gone! I still hate excercise but I walk when the weather agrees. I do high intensity, low impact aerobics from YouTube 2-3 times a week in my livingroom, at my pace, break a sweat and then do self care. I have not had bloodwork but I can tell my insulin resistance is gone. I still sneak smokes but a pack a month v. a pack a day. I still have a G&T but 2 ounces every couple days v. 6+ every day. We have fallen in love with veg which is cheaper than our old eating style.
You have to find your Why. Try logging what you eat to start. See how many calories you really eat. That might slap you in the face. Start stepping on the scale daily. Can you incorporate small tiny steps? Drink water. Limit your eating window to only 12 hours and then 10 hours a day. Take a multi-vitamin. Make rules like no food within 4 hours of sleep, all food groups at a meal, only dark chocolate in the house as treats, no soda pop inside the house, no eating out unless it is Friday, try a new food each week like sardines, tofu, fennel or daikon, only coffee in morning hours, cut your cream by half, minimize added sugar, only tea in pm hours, only decaf within 6 hours of sleep, wear a pedometer or use a phone app start counting steps, start building and trying to up it 1000 steps avg a week, practice doing one self care thing per day. Take a tub, color your hair, pluck stray hairs, file your nails, do a sugar scrub, do a face mask, coconut oil mask your hair. Go to the Dr. for a reality check if you have not already.
You are not alone. Millions of us exist with you in our own pools of despair…but it does not make it ok. Find your reason, find your anchor, find your why, keep reading these boards, keep reaching out making connections. Get your Dr. on board. One success fuels the next so you just need one win to get you moving in the right direction. Once you get moving just keep going, don’t stop, don’t break, don’t coast, just GO. I will pray for you to find your mojo.5 -
@DebbsSeattle your story is an inspiration. It's good to hear that your health issues are not as bad now that you switched up your diet. I've been eating plant based meals moat days except for the weekly pizza night my boyfriend and I do. Reducing sugar and cream in coffee is a good idea. Sometimes I go all day just drinking coffee with truvia and sugar free Coffee Mate. I eat like a pig at supper though. I need to break that habit. I hope your husband gets better too and that the two of you continue to lose weight and feel better.
Part of my problem is that I moved to the PNW and don't have many friends yet. I'd rather go for a hike or walk with a friend than alone, but I should probably suck it up and hike solo. Also, my last job was very physically demanding as was my lifestyle, but my new job is a lot of sitting.1 -
@DebbsSeattle your story is an inspiration. It's good to hear that your health issues are not as bad now that you switched up your diet. I've been eating plant based meals moat days except for the weekly pizza night my boyfriend and I do. Reducing sugar and cream in coffee is a good idea. Sometimes I go all day just drinking coffee with truvia and sugar free Coffee Mate. I eat like a pig at supper though. I need to break that habit. I hope your husband gets better too and that the two of you continue to lose weight and feel better.
Part of my problem is that I moved to the PNW and don't have many friends yet. I'd rather go for a hike or walk with a friend than alone, but I should probably suck it up and hike solo. Also, my last job was very physically demanding as was my lifestyle, but my new job is a lot of sitting.
That's (the bolded) quite a common experience, including some (like me) having that experience simply from weight loss, without major changes in range of foods eaten or exercise levels. I went from high blood pressure, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, pretty routine pain (from arthritis and torn meniscus) to solidly normal lipids and blood pressure, and relatively infrequent discomfort (rarely pain) along the road to goal weight. I didn't even need to get all the way there to begin to see benefits.
I'm not dissing eating lots of plants, because I do think that's a good choice, health-wise; and I absolutely think exercise is a great thing for health and quality of life in other ways. But just weight loss on its own can have major benefits, potentially.
One tiny worry, maybe misplaced: It sounds like you're new to eating more plants, so I'm hoping you're able to combine that with keeping your daily protein at reasonable levels. Protein is important for health and even more so when we're losing weight. I'm also not dissing plant-based eating: I've been vegetarian for 48+ years now myself. Sadly, I've seen some friends not realize the implication of protein needs and have some struggles as a consequence. It's very doable, it just takes a little attention, especially when new to it. If you haven't run across it yet, this is a great site for information about nutrition and plant-based eating:
https://veganhealth.org/
That site can be useful info even for people that aren't fully vegan or vegetarian, but are shifting to eating more plants. Unlike some vegan advocacy sites, this one is solidly science-based: The contributors are registered dietitians who are vegan, and it doesn't sell supplements or anything of that sort.
Also, FWIW, I didn't used to do it, but I've come to really enjoy solo biking and such, though I'm an older woman out alone. Just starting can pave a path to a habit. Also, you could look for local clubs or groups (meet-ups or whatever) that do outdoor things, maybe, as a way to make some friends. I've met a lot of friends through my rowing club, some through my YMCA classes in the past (we do things outside the Y together) and this past summer started doing a monthly group bike ride for women led by people from a great local bike shop. Very fun!
Best wishes!3
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