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  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    cmriverside wrote: »
    :lol: LOL, Right? I was just tryna make the point that height is not the only determinant in James Smith's world.

    Apparently. Or something...

    🤣

    Perhaps Americans are assumed to need more protein? 😉

    That doesn't really explain Retroguy's weird variances. But, yeah.

    I'm from Murica...I just used the Metric numbers because I'm a rebel.

  • Retroguy2000
    Retroguy2000 Posts: 1,869 Member
    I just double checked, yep I get 2.9g per pound, using Imperial and choosing 'moderately active' and 'fat loss'. Same settings in metric it gives me 1.68g per pound, which is insanely high. Garbage calculator.

    Btw, I have seen "1g per cm" in a video by Jeff Nippard I think, where he said it can be used as a simpler method than the 0.7g-1g he promotes (based on obese/lean), though he noted it wasn't ideal iirc.
  • Nephelys
    Nephelys Posts: 27 Member
    Retroguy2000 wrote: »
    I just double checked, yep I get 2.9g per pound, using Imperial and choosing 'moderately active' and 'fat loss'. Same settings in metric it gives me 1.68g per pound, which is insanely high. Garbage calculator.

    Btw, I have seen "1g per cm" in a video by Jeff Nippard I think, where he said it can be used as a simpler method than the 0.7g-1g he promotes (based on obese/lean), though he noted it wasn't ideal iirc.

    Basically, as soon as you go for the weight loss option, the results just go absolutely crazy. I tried it too, out of curiosity, and in my case, it recommends 200g a day of protein for weight loss (versus 80g for maintenance and 120g for muscle gain). In each case, it's too much. At least for me.

    Beyond those insane numbers, you need quite the budget too. 200g of protein a day is enormous... Where I live, good quality meat/fish is clearly not very affordable, so my groceries would clearly cost me an arm and a leg.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,304 Member
    and anyway, despite this lengthy tangent about protein calculators - that really wasnt OP's question or issue.
  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,986 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    cmriverside wrote: »
    :lol: LOL, Right? I was just tryna make the point that height is not the only determinant in James Smith's world.

    Apparently. Or something...

    🤣

    Perhaps Americans are assumed to need more protein? 😉

    I used metric, and got 230gr protein for trying to lose weight. There's something really, really wrong with this calculator.
  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,986 Member
    edited August 2023
    Nephelys wrote: »
    Retroguy2000 wrote: »
    I just double checked, yep I get 2.9g per pound, using Imperial and choosing 'moderately active' and 'fat loss'. Same settings in metric it gives me 1.68g per pound, which is insanely high. Garbage calculator.

    Btw, I have seen "1g per cm" in a video by Jeff Nippard I think, where he said it can be used as a simpler method than the 0.7g-1g he promotes (based on obese/lean), though he noted it wasn't ideal iirc.

    Basically, as soon as you go for the weight loss option, the results just go absolutely crazy. I tried it too, out of curiosity, and in my case, it recommends 200g a day of protein for weight loss (versus 80g for maintenance and 120g for muscle gain). In each case, it's too much. At least for me.

    Beyond those insane numbers, you need quite the budget too. 200g of protein a day is enormous... Where I live, good quality meat/fish is clearly not very affordable, so my groceries would clearly cost me an arm and a leg.

    Sounds like quick weightloss :D

  • zebasschick
    zebasschick Posts: 1,071 Member
    it seems the takeaway here is not all calculators are equal... :D
  • chris_in_cal
    chris_in_cal Posts: 2,548 Member
    craigneal42 wrote: »
    Hi, not all calories are equal, have you adjusted your macros to ensure enough protein. Roughly 1 gram for every cm in height daily. So say 5ft 8 is 173cm. So 173g of protein daily. Thus less carbs and fat in a day. Makes a big difference on weight loss.
    This info is from a James Smith book.

    Yup @craigneal42 Welcome to MFP. Glad you are sharing your story here.

    The locals will make their sounds and raise their hackles, but of course the hope is you will remain, contribute, share your successes, and unconditionally love those others who are brave enough in the face of obesity and poor health to log on here and engage. Stick with it. MFP can be a powerfully good place.

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