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Is it new that people expect the forum to read their minds?
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I'm so used to posters with the attitude "I'M NOT LOSING WEIGHT, TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG, BUT IT CAN'T POSSIBLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MY LOGGING" that I was surprised when someone actually admitted that they were just winging it.3
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Funny, but also so sad @springlering620
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You forgot the “Why doesn’t the bar code work any more? How dare they remove the bar code without telling us?” (Clue - they did) or my personal fave “How dare this profit-making company decide to make a profit by charging us.”springlering62 wrote: »Hi I’m new and/or returning here.
I don’t want to put any effort whatsoever into losing weight. Please tell me how to use this app? I don’t know how to use this app. How can I lose 30, 40, 50 pounds before my / my daughter’s/ my second cousin’s grandchild’s wedding next month.
I know it can be done. There’s a secret and I’m angry. Y’all are holding out on me.
I’m going to exercise until I drop and I swear I only eat 600 calories per day.
I should be able to creat a user ID and immediately lose 20.
I don’t want to pay for the app but I expect full features to be available and if not, I’m going to QUIT, do you hear me? QUIT!!!!!!
I’m not losing. MFP doesn’t work for me.
Wanna buy some bit coin? Hey, you look hot. Wanna see a picture of my awesome abs that barely covers my ‘nads?
Thanks y’all. Just needed to vent.
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“How dare this profit-making company decide to make a profit by charging us.”
Well to be fair...in 2007 when I joined the owners at that time, the Lees, said that it would always be free and that there was never going to be a charge.
Then they sold it for $80 mill.
"...and the times, they are a changin'."2 -
I've done that for years now.sollyn23l2 wrote: »AyameShimitsu wrote: »As someone who spends a lot of time on the internet, people tend to write short and sweet. I think it really took off with Twitter with the limited character count. Add live stream chats where you don't have time to write a lot due to fast communication, I think the younger generation has made it a habit to talk this way. Especially as talking to computers (Google, siri, alexa) can at least use a database of similarly asked questions by others to at lease kind of figure out what they may be talking about. I equally find it frustrating. I write stories and ask for feedback online and their feedback is a thumbs up. Imagine writing 300k words and the feed back is a thumbs up.
💯 This is why I really limited my responses to people on here that ask a question. You respond, and then they either just ignore it or give a one sentence argument back, usually just saying "won't work" or something to that effect. Then don't pay any attention to what you said anyway.
Ann writes a lot of long informational answers for a lot of people which I'm sure they appreciate, but unless she's a really fast typer, it takes time to write the amount she does and I use to spend a couple of hours on here online answering questions. I don't have that time anymore and do most of my answering within breaks between clients or cancelations at work. Don't do much at home anymore.
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Yes and I’m not commenting on the rights or wrongs of commerce and its economics, but I suspect a lot of the people who grumbled weren’t on here then. I only joined when UA were the owners, and I liked the fact I got an UA voucher 😀 Which was also good marketing as it made me spend more in their shop.cmriverside wrote: »“How dare this profit-making company decide to make a profit by charging us.”
Well to be fair...in 2007 when I joined the owners at that time, the Lees, said that it would always be free and that there was never going to be a charge.
Then they sold it for $80 mill.
"...and the times, they are a changin'."
The other issue with the barcode scanner was it was still user populated and often wrong, it wasn’t the panacea to accurate logging many thought 🤷♂️0 -
claireychn074 wrote: »
Yes and I’m not commenting on the rights or wrongs of commerce and its economics, but I suspect a lot of the people who grumbled weren’t on here then. I only joined when UA were the owners, and I liked the fact I got an UA voucher 😀 Which was also good marketing as it made me spend more in their shop.cmriverside wrote: »“How dare this profit-making company decide to make a profit by charging us.”
Well to be fair...in 2007 when I joined the owners at that time, the Lees, said that it would always be free and that there was never going to be a charge.
Then they sold it for $80 mill.
"...and the times, they are a changin'."
The other issue with the barcode scanner was it was still user populated and often wrong, it wasn’t the panacea to accurate logging many thought 🤷♂️
Sure.
There are free workarounds for most stuff...but, meh, I can't go around fixing everyone elses' inability to figure stuff out.
I'm in the habit of just linking good threads from the past, or from the Sticky threads. I have no idea why people get in to big discussions here in threads started by people who make one or two posts. ::shrug::3 -
cmriverside wrote: »claireychn074 wrote: »
Yes and I’m not commenting on the rights or wrongs of commerce and its economics, but I suspect a lot of the people who grumbled weren’t on here then. I only joined when UA were the owners, and I liked the fact I got an UA voucher 😀 Which was also good marketing as it made me spend more in their shop.cmriverside wrote: »“How dare this profit-making company decide to make a profit by charging us.”
Well to be fair...in 2007 when I joined the owners at that time, the Lees, said that it would always be free and that there was never going to be a charge.
Then they sold it for $80 mill.
"...and the times, they are a changin'."
The other issue with the barcode scanner was it was still user populated and often wrong, it wasn’t the panacea to accurate logging many thought 🤷♂️
Sure.
There are free workarounds for most stuff...but, meh, I can't go around fixing everyone elses' inability to figure stuff out.
I'm in the habit of just linking good threads from the past, or from the Sticky threads. I have no idea why people get in to big discussions here in threads started by people who make one or two posts. ::shrug::
It’s the cup half full hope that one solitary person will listen and can be helped. Ya never know if a first time poster is a one time whinger, or might actually turn out to be someone who stays and benefits from our golden words.
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And all of us were first time posters once.2
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cmriverside wrote: »claireychn074 wrote: »
Yes and I’m not commenting on the rights or wrongs of commerce and its economics, but I suspect a lot of the people who grumbled weren’t on here then. I only joined when UA were the owners, and I liked the fact I got an UA voucher 😀 Which was also good marketing as it made me spend more in their shop.cmriverside wrote: »“How dare this profit-making company decide to make a profit by charging us.”
Well to be fair...in 2007 when I joined the owners at that time, the Lees, said that it would always be free and that there was never going to be a charge.
Then they sold it for $80 mill.
"...and the times, they are a changin'."
The other issue with the barcode scanner was it was still user populated and often wrong, it wasn’t the panacea to accurate logging many thought 🤷♂️
Sure.
There are free workarounds for most stuff...but, meh, I can't go around fixing everyone elses' inability to figure stuff out.
I'm in the habit of just linking good threads from the past, or from the Sticky threads. I have no idea why people get in to big discussions here in threads started by people who make one or two posts. ::shrug::
I think there are two things:
I write stupid long essays to make my best shot at answering the question, if there's enough info to work on. I didn't ask very many questions when I first got here, but I learned a lot - a powerful lot, in usefulness - from reading the answers to other people's questions. So now I try to answer questions, in speculation that someone may read them.
I don't care whether the OP reads them, likes them, whatever. In some ways, I don't care whether anyone does read any individual one. From replies, I know that some people read some of them. Good enough.
(Riverside, you give good answers. I'm not very good at being concise, and you are.)
The other thing, getting into nearly-pointless lengthy arguments about details . . . everyone finds different things fun. Sometimes I find that fun. To a fault. (Everyone's got faults, right?)
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I appreciate all of you in this thread who have invested your time in helping others (myself included) so selflessly! I returned this summer after not looking at the message boards for several years and noticed all the things y'all have mentioned, which bum me out. Still finding good inspiration on here where I can, but you have to dig for it now.3
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The other thing, getting into nearly-pointless lengthy arguments about details . . . everyone finds different things fun. Sometimes I find that fun. To a fault. (Everyone's got faults, right?)
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'll argue when it serves me. I personally used to like the much more lively forums of old when there were hundreds of posts arguing against a point, but the one hold-out would still say, "Nope." If it devolved into gifs, even better, IMO.
I just can't see having that 10 page discussion over - say - someone who has five pounds to lose. I mean - some problems aren't really problems.
But yeah, other things are important to Me Too.2 -
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Please add “how do I burn belly fat?”.
I’d like to line up a firing squad for the marketing genius who came up with that nauseating clickbait term.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »claireychn074 wrote: »
Yes and I’m not commenting on the rights or wrongs of commerce and its economics, but I suspect a lot of the people who grumbled weren’t on here then. I only joined when UA were the owners, and I liked the fact I got an UA voucher 😀 Which was also good marketing as it made me spend more in their shop.cmriverside wrote: »“How dare this profit-making company decide to make a profit by charging us.”
Well to be fair...in 2007 when I joined the owners at that time, the Lees, said that it would always be free and that there was never going to be a charge.
Then they sold it for $80 mill.
"...and the times, they are a changin'."
The other issue with the barcode scanner was it was still user populated and often wrong, it wasn’t the panacea to accurate logging many thought 🤷♂️
Sure.
There are free workarounds for most stuff...but, meh, I can't go around fixing everyone elses' inability to figure stuff out.
I'm in the habit of just linking good threads from the past, or from the Sticky threads. I have no idea why people get in to big discussions here in threads started by people who make one or two posts. ::shrug::
The other thing, getting into nearly-pointless lengthy arguments about details . . . everyone finds different things fun. Sometimes I find that fun. To a fault. (Everyone's got faults, right?)
I definitely find it fun when I've got the time. Honestly, I hope people here don't get the wrong idea and think I don't respect what they're saying because I go back and forth.... but honestly, if we live in a bubble where everyone just goes "oh, ok"... well, that would be a little boring. Mostly I spend the time to do this specifically because I respect them.
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cmriverside wrote: »Forums are dying.
If you mean "MFP Groups" I would strengthen that and say they are dead.
Though clear a few out of the thousands might have some activity.
They designed poorly and don't work easily. Nobody cares.
One sentence obscure posts in threads are what this app is designed to facilitate.
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Subtle telepathy has always interested me- whether it is possible- have we become subtly more psychic/sensitive to each other's thoughts/opinions collectively in the last decade- also lots of people have main character syndrome related issues- so does it cancel itself out if it is common? We're hyper-sensitive to ourselves- we feel as if we're being analysed/pre-empted, putting ourselves under a harsher lens maybe- or we're enmeshed in our own pathology/hysteria and need to explain ourselves to others a bit more. Sorry this is a bit off topic- just my thoughts0
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Can we also add “Anyone tried this Intermittent Fasting thing?”
I honestly think you guys are the glue holding this Community together… I see a ‘new’ question (actually asked a thousand times before) and have a little guess at who got the first reply out of @AnnPT77, @Springlering62, @cmriverside, or @ninerbuff (edit to add @mtatatoot, @yirara and so many more I recognise, you know who you are)!
I (still) read all your responses in the hope that the drip, drip, drip of your collective wisdom eventually seeps into my brain… I am sure I’m not the only one. We admire your staying power, so THANK YOU!3 -
Oh yeah, and “Can you please give me motivation?”.
I mentally grit my teeth when I read that one.3 -
The forum setup was "improved" in recent memory. My personal impression is that the number of people who make use of the forums decreased subsequent to that.
There is a chance that app improvements emphasizing videos, blogs and other features are partially responsible and offer people sufficient interactivity for their needs. But I have also noticed that the MFP app promo contents are not in full alignment with the forums. To me they seem to push the substantial losses in a few months narrative with nary a mention of maintenance track records.
That said, I can't opine too much on the app improvements these past 3+ years because I changed logging platforms in late 2020 after the free account "old data" prune took place. I understand that the pruning then un-happened but I had already moved to logging elsewhere and I now only use the app/website to click through to the forums
I credit MFP and the forums for a lot of my (so far) successful foray into weight management these past 10 years and I have been happy to participate--and hopefully to give back and help people find success.
That said I've noticed myself deleting without posting a lot of responses that I start writing. Especially when I find myself trying to express something more nuanced or complicated.
and, more often than in the past, I try to avoid jumping into the one liners from people who can't even be bothered to write out a question.3 -
@AnnPT77, @Springlering62, @cmriverside, @ninerbuff, @chris_in_cal, @sollyn23l2, @yirara, @SafariGalNYC, @history_grrrl --- just want to let you all know that I definitely do appreciate these forums! I usually don't post, because I don't have much advice in this department, but I love reading the insightful responses on these threads! Thank you!!!5
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