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Partner Sabotage

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  • Theoldguy1
    Theoldguy1 Posts: 2,454 Member
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    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
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    People should want their spouses to be healthly. In most cases that means losing some weight and exercising more.

    People should want their partner to be happy. They should not expect someone to change to meet what they think they should be.

    Often, this can be a painful realization. You have no control over other’s appearance or lifestyle. You only have control over your own body and actions.

    Say your partner becomes a drug addict. What are you going to do? Lock them in a room until they do what you want (and what is probably better for them health wise)? Who does that make you? Where does that leave your “partnership”?

    You cannot make a person be the person you need them to be. That is a painful exercise in control and futility. It only ends in terrible things.

    Love people for who they are. And if you can’t… walk away. Anything else will be sabotaging everyone’s happiness.

    I am very overweight, now, it was not always that way. That is why I am here. My partner is not. He can leave at any time if he does not understand my struggle. But he stays … and I stay because we both understand that we are separate people with our own struggles who support each other. Whatever we might need at the time.

    Unhealthy people are rarely happy.

    If my partner became a drug addict, I would not lock them in a room but I would get them help (which could involve rebab, which some could consider being locked in a room).

    I have a friend in Substance Use Disorder rehab right now. She just texted for the first time in three weeks. She's working to get more privileges. I think we can consider her to be locked up :lol:

    I've taken a housemate to detox and visited friends there. I wouldn't take a partner - I'd leave. I've left people NOT bad enough to require detox. I can't imagine being in a relationship with people like those I know who have gone to detox. It's painful enough being friends.

    Well guess we have different ideas on what we would do for our partner.
  • ddsb1111
    ddsb1111 Posts: 739 Member
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    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    People should want their spouses to be healthly. In most cases that means losing some weight and exercising more.

    People should want their partner to be happy. They should not expect someone to change to meet what they think they should be.

    Often, this can be a painful realization. You have no control over other’s appearance or lifestyle. You only have control over your own body and actions.

    Say your partner becomes a drug addict. What are you going to do? Lock them in a room until they do what you want (and what is probably better for them health wise)? Who does that make you? Where does that leave your “partnership”?

    You cannot make a person be the person you need them to be. That is a painful exercise in control and futility. It only ends in terrible things.

    Love people for who they are. And if you can’t… walk away. Anything else will be sabotaging everyone’s happiness.

    I am very overweight, now, it was not always that way. That is why I am here. My partner is not. He can leave at any time if he does not understand my struggle. But he stays … and I stay because we both understand that we are separate people with our own struggles who support each other. Whatever we might need at the time.

    I do want to encourage my husband to be healthy and I’ll do whatever it takes.. we are aligned in the way we view this for each other. I’ve asked him to keep my trouble foods out of the house and it’s no prob. He supports me in my goals as well. We consider it a team effort.. even though yes we both have our personal responsibility.

    If he was an addict I would do whatever I could to help.. even if it includes locking him up!

    My sister died of a fentanyl overdose at 28yrs old ..I think she needed more attention.. I wish our family had been more insistent on her detox.. sadly here we are.

    This is spoken like someone who really knows the consequences and grave reality. Thank you, it’s given me a new perspective and clarity.
  • Brigit_1
    Brigit_1 Posts: 209 Member
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    Losing weight takes such dedication.. changing behaviors and for a long period of time to make a goal. During that time.. a spouse may want a little company.. eating a pizza.. having drinks.. They may miss their eating buddy.. so yeah.. seems like they are trying to sabbatoge ... I dont think for most, it isn't nefarous. Also.. when someone loses a lot of weight.. in the eyes of the spouse..they don't want them to change too much.. Most of us fear change.

    You pretty much described my situation. My husband wants me to look a certain way but he also likes to buy "treats" for us to eat together or cook us a meal that has a lot of calories. (The man likes his butter.) LOL.

    I've been working hard to take off the last five pounds and to get completely toned. Sometimes I get angry when he brings home treats but I know he's trying to be a good husband.
  • Theoldguy1
    Theoldguy1 Posts: 2,454 Member
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    Brigit_1 wrote: »
    Losing weight takes such dedication.. changing behaviors and for a long period of time to make a goal. During that time.. a spouse may want a little company.. eating a pizza.. having drinks.. They may miss their eating buddy.. so yeah.. seems like they are trying to sabbatoge ... I dont think for most, it isn't nefarous. Also.. when someone loses a lot of weight.. in the eyes of the spouse..they don't want them to change too much.. Most of us fear change.

    You pretty much described my situation. My husband wants me to look a certain way but he also likes to buy "treats" for us to eat together or cook us a meal that has a lot of calories. (The man likes his butter.) LOL.

    I've been working hard to take off the last five pounds and to get completely toned. Sometimes I get angry when he brings home treats but I know he's trying to be a good husband.

    Ask him what he wants more, for you to look a certain way or to eat "treats" together. Tell him, your preference is to take off the last 5 pounds and get toned. Is he in great shape?
  • Brigit_1
    Brigit_1 Posts: 209 Member
    edited December 2023
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    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    Brigit_1 wrote: »
    Losing weight takes such dedication.. changing behaviors and for a long period of time to make a goal. During that time.. a spouse may want a little company.. eating a pizza.. having drinks.. They may miss their eating buddy.. so yeah.. seems like they are trying to sabbatoge ... I dont think for most, it isn't nefarous. Also.. when someone loses a lot of weight.. in the eyes of the spouse..they don't want them to change too much.. Most of us fear change.

    You pretty much described my situation. My husband wants me to look a certain way but he also likes to buy "treats" for us to eat together or cook us a meal that has a lot of calories. (The man likes his butter.) LOL.

    I've been working hard to take off the last five pounds and to get completely toned. Sometimes I get angry when he brings home treats but I know he's trying to be a good husband.

    Ask him what he wants more, for you to look a certain way or to eat "treats" together. Tell him, your preference is to take off the last 5 pounds and get toned. Is he in great shape?

    He's going to buy the treats. He'll say I don't have to eat them but he wants to have access to cookies, chocolate etc. He works hard, long, hours so I can understand that he wants to have some fun stuff to munch on when he's home.

    He needs to lose about ten pounds and work out but he usually doesn't. We have equipment at home and I trained him yesterday: after I begged him to workout. LOL. He wants to get into shape but he's wiped on the weekends. I'm not pushing him too much but he does need to workout at least once a week.
  • PeachHibiscus
    PeachHibiscus Posts: 164 Member
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    Brigit_1 wrote: »
    He needs to lose about ten pounds and work out but he usually doesn't.

    Tell him you want him to look a certain way.
  • Brigit_1
    Brigit_1 Posts: 209 Member
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    @PeachHibiscus LOL!

    He's actually a very good husband. He has his preferences and I'm fine with trying to accommodate them.
  • csplatt
    csplatt Posts: 1,013 Member
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    I am an adult. If my husband wants to have ice cream and offer me some, I can say no. Hard stop. Some relationships were founded over socializing over food. So for some, continuing to do this is familiar and nostalgic. ALSO, while I tend to only need to lose 10 lb or so when I move from maintenance back to deficit at times… my husband doesn’t really “see” all the imperfections I am working on. They are less obsessed with our body than we are.