Ozempic Users?

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  • Retroguy2000
    Retroguy2000 Posts: 1,848 Member
    edited August 2023
    sollyn23l2 wrote: »
    The best explanation I ever heard as far as maintenence (assuming we're referring to calories) was by Mike Israetel, who's a PHD in exercise science. His explanation was to take 1500 calories and add your body weight to it (i.e. foe me... 1500+110). This is your starting point for calories. Wait a week, see if you go up, down, or stay the same. If you go up, decrease calories by 250. If you go down, increase your calories by 250. Wait another week. Repeat. Once you have stayed the same weight for a few weeks, you've found your maintenence calories.
    I figured you must have that wrong, because the starting formula makes no sense. For myself, that would give a starting maintenance at below every TDEE calculator gives for just my BMR.

    One quick Google, found it. He said to start with bodyweight * 15 calories, if your weight trends up over 3 days, cut by 250-500, or if it's trending down, increase by 250-500. If you're 100-150 pounds change that to 100-150 calories change. Repeat until your bodyweight is steady on average for over a week, and that's an estimate of your maintenance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb5xgU9zAFY
  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,755 Member
    edited August 2023
    sollyn23l2 wrote: »
    The best explanation I ever heard as far as maintenence (assuming we're referring to calories) was by Mike Israetel, who's a PHD in exercise science. His explanation was to take 1500 calories and add your body weight to it (i.e. foe me... 1500+110). This is your starting point for calories. Wait a week, see if you go up, down, or stay the same. If you go up, decrease calories by 250. If you go down, increase your calories by 250. Wait another week. Repeat. Once you have stayed the same weight for a few weeks, you've found your maintenence calories.
    I figured you must have that wrong, because the starting formula makes no sense. For myself, that would give a starting maintenance at below every TDEE calculator gives for just my BMR.

    One quick Google, found it. He said to start with bodyweight * 15 calories, if your weight trends up over 3 days, cut by 250-500, or if it's trending down, increase by 250-500. If you're 100-150 pounds change that to 100-150 calories change. Repeat until your bodyweight is steady on average for over a week, and that's an estimate of your maintenance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb5xgU9zAFY

    Aha, I did misremember. Thanks. Makes more sense. True. Not sure how I remembered it so far off🤣😂. This is why it pays to look stuff up.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,226 Member
    edited August 2023
    IMO, 3 days or a week still sounds like an unreasonably short time span for women who have cycles.

    ETA: The discussion of how to estimate maintenence is probably a digression, anyway. I think this started it:
    Hi,

    Do people still track their food on Ozempic? What’s the maintenance on it? Thank you

    I'm not sure whether that's referring to maintenance calories, or maintenance dosage/schedule/plan for the drug.
  • Sandie2102
    Sandie2102 Posts: 67 Member
    Hi,

    Do people still track their food on Ozempic? What’s the maintenance on it? Thank you

    I track my food...I find it really helpful to see where I am with nutrients etc. I am with a medical programme so I meet with a dietician monthly so we always go over food and various options. I know that a lot of people will say that they do not track, and I think its a personal thing. I have always tracked because it helps to keep me accountable. I will only be lying to myself and the scale otherwise.

    And as for maintenance, I for one know that my programme will be working through that. I know that we will be learning how to live at the weight that we set as a goal. But, technically, this medication is something that should be continued long term, since it is being used to handle a real medical condition (obesity and weight management is a real thing), but most people want to be able to come off of it, so they teach how to decrease dosages and maintain weight at each level.

    There are so many questions and like most things, its a learning curve.
  • methridg2
    methridg2 Posts: 12 Member
    Started Oz yesterday. I have struggled with my weight for 15 years. I have an addiction to food and sugar, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, and autoimmune issues. Losing weight would help all of these things. I made changes but it never amounted to anything, so I needed some training wheels to get me where I need to be while I continue to make lifestyle changes. I see a counselor twice a month, meeting a nutritionist next week and went through the Noom education. I really hope using this medicine will help with the weight loss and motivation to continue. I need to lose about 45lbs.

    If anyone wants to add me as a friend, please do so. Could always use some community support and would love to give it as well.

    Starting weight - 199
    Goal weight - 155
  • methridg2
    methridg2 Posts: 12 Member
    badnoodle wrote: »
    I had a really depressing conversation with real-life friends yesterday. We were talking about food, and I mentioned how I missed pasta and rice, but that Ozempic was really helping me stick to a low(er) carb diet. And they absolutely went off on me! Things like how I was "unfairly privileged" to have access to it; I was "embracing fat-phobic diet culture"; and how "you're just signing up for a lifetime drug habit". To be fair, they did walk back a lot of that when I reminded them that I'd recently been diagnosed with t2 diabetes and really wanted to keep all my toes for the rest of my life.

    But wow, the judgement and negativity from avowedly liberal people who actively support drug therapy for mental illness and drug addiction was EYE OPENING. I almost think I would have gotten less judgment if I casually admitted to using recreational ketamine on a regular basis.

    That is terrible! I am so sorry you went through that. I actually am only telling one person (outside you guys of course) that I am taking Oz because of this. People are so judgy about it. If you go into it knowing its not a miracle drug and to use it to get where you want to be while learning how to have a lifestyle that supports the weight loss and maintaining it, then you shouldn't need to be on it forever.
  • meghand8
    meghand8 Posts: 5 Member
    Hi! I'm so happy to finally find a conversation regarding Ozempic that I can join! I started Ozempic on July 14 and have lost 16lbs. Because it has been working as well as it has, my doctor has chosen to keep me at the 0.5 dose for another 3 months.
  • Hi everyone, just took my first dose of Ozempic about.,.. 15 minutes ago. I wanted to chime in on food prep and something that a lot of people aren't aware of - if you get a sous vide (I use the Breville Joule, but the Anova or other brand is great too) and you sous vide a chicken breast til pastureized in separate bags or 2 per bag - it increases the time you can keep it in the fridge by over a week because you've literally pasteurized it and and until you open it and as long as you keep it refrigerated, it will stay good an extra 3-5 days.
  • chris_in_cal
    chris_in_cal Posts: 2,520 Member
    I have an appointment next week with my doctor to discuss whether this is a good choice for me. I may be joining you. Good luck.
  • dontlikepeople
    dontlikepeople Posts: 142 Member
    So, first off, thank you to everyone who has contributed to this post in a productive manner. It's been difficult finding anecdotal reviews of semaglutide/GLP-1, what to expect, how it's going for people etc.

    I am starting my fourth week tomorrow and still on a very low does of 0.125, it took a couple of weeks before it started "working". I don't want to call it a miracle drug, but what it has been doing for me has been a miracle. I definitely have a lifelong problem with binge eating, and the ozempic has pretty much destroyed the urge to binge.

    Kind of echoing what people say, not only am I in general less hungry, but if I ever do over eat, or eat too quickly, I am rapidly "punished", and I am punished in a way that I will be completely devoid of appetite for a full day after. If anything my calories might be too low right now. But if you eat correctly, and slowly, it seems to be okay.

    I'm enjoying it so far. I'm not even sure I need to titrate up, but apparently that's the thing everyone does. I will talk to my dr about it.

    There are some minor side effects I don't like. I don't drink as much water, I don't seem to be pooping as regular as I used to. but the sides so far have been pretty mild. I've lost a good 5-6lbs in the past 3 weeks after not losing anything for a month, so I'm pretty hapy with that aspect.

    I don't want to be on it "forever", but we'll see what happens. I don't want my old appetite back at all.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    Out of personal curiosity I would love to find out why the protocol (based on what people are saying) seems to be that they will keep increasing the dosage "on schedule" even if it appears to (still) be achieving the desired effect at a lower dosage.
  • dontlikepeople
    dontlikepeople Posts: 142 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Out of personal curiosity I would love to find out why the protocol (based on what people are saying) seems to be that they will keep increasing the dosage "on schedule" even if it appears to (still) be achieving the desired effect at a lower dosage.

    I literally just asked my doctor this exact question, and it's because statistics show that it is less effective long term at the lower doses.

    I do not know if that means it loses efficacy, or if your body adapts to the new reality. But apparently the statistically signficant weight loss in studies only happened at the higher dose.
  • Sneakyone73
    Sneakyone73 Posts: 1 Member
    I have been Ozempic for 2 months now and lost 9.6 kg . I have conditions that make it impossible to lose weight as well as insulin resistance and being prediabetic, this injection has changed my life

    I am still on the .50 dose and have been advised to stay on that by my doctor till the shortage ends
  • chris_in_cal
    chris_in_cal Posts: 2,520 Member
    I don't view the drug as a 'cheat' like some folks do.
    Good, me neither. Addressing diabetes and obesity with the help of your doctor sounds like smart healthcare, and not a game where people can "cheat."
  • chris_in_cal
    chris_in_cal Posts: 2,520 Member
    Tirzepatide (mounjaro) vs Semaglutides (Ozempic) just went head to head in a big study.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.11.21.23298775v1

    The results? The both work amazingly well. All skeptical scientist worth their salt in the field of chronic obesity, should be pursuing end cases and exceptions for this treatment to help guide its use. The firehose of anecdotes and research point to this as the discovery of a real breakthrough.

    It still might all come crashing down, but it is not possible to deny our current results.
  • jesjesmarie
    jesjesmarie Posts: 2 Member
    I’ve been on semaglutide, for about 2 months and have lost almost 30 lbs so far. I’m still on the .5 dose and happy with results so far, I have no side effects!
  • chris_in_cal
    chris_in_cal Posts: 2,520 Member
    I'm happy your doctor and you found treatments that are keeping you healthy
    Iva_Gayle wrote: »
    I gained 2lbs a month no matter what I ate

    I kept logs of all my foods and water.

    Some MFPers obsessively focus on these statements like yours and disregard everything that you wrote.

    I came up with a saying: CI∞CO.

    Calories In, an infinite number of other variables, Calories out.

    You and your doctor seem to have done a good job of addressing some of those important variables. Be well.
  • ddsb1111
    ddsb1111 Posts: 872 Member
    edited January 13
    CI∞CO <3
  • akern1987
    akern1987 Posts: 288 Member
    I'm an currently enrolled in a physician monitored weight loss program that does utilize medications. I am currently up to the 1.0mg dose of semaglutide, along with an evening does of metformin (not diabetic, but am insulin resistant and over 300lbs). I have long suffered with binge eating and food addiction disorders and i have found this program to be game changer. I am about 9 weeks in and am 14 pounds down, it's a slow and steady loss, but I have also changed my diet and am working on new habits and lifestyle changes to help me to continue to have success long term, with the guidance of a team and an accountability to be weighed in each week.
    The medication has helped reduce the "food noise" in my head, and has truly helped me to not think about food the way I used to through the day. I've been able to learn more about batch meal prepping, and have transitioned to a higher protein, lower fat diet. I've also increased the amount I'm walking everyday, shooting for around 8000-10000 steps per day (where I was averaging around 3500 at the start of this journey).
    For anyone who thinks these drugs are a "cheat" a "quick fix" or anything other than a tool to be incorporated with lifestyle changes, you are incorrect. There is no such thing as a quick fix, my process and progress have not been quick....but I needed help and this is the first time I've consistently stuck with something for this long, and as long as I continue to see results, and learn more about how my body reacts to the foods I'm giving it, I will be positive about this experience.
    My struggles with it....some mild symptoms, like constipation and a full feeling along with some very mild nausea in the first few weeks of the injections; learning how to transition to better food choices and getting my water intake up (not all of those are related to the medication...but the other struggles are still very real for me too)
    I wish everyone the best who is trying this method, and I hope we can all reach our goals together!
  • Julie31171
    Julie31171 Posts: 24 Member
    akern1987 wrote: »
    I'm an currently enrolled in a physician monitored weight loss program that does utilize medications. I am currently up to the 1.0mg dose of semaglutide, along with an evening does of metformin (not diabetic, but am insulin resistant and over 300lbs). I have long suffered with binge eating and food addiction disorders and i have found this program to be game changer. I am about 9 weeks in and am 14 pounds down, it's a slow and steady loss, but I have also changed my diet and am working on new habits and lifestyle changes to help me to continue to have success long term, with the guidance of a team and an accountability to be weighed in each week.
    The medication has helped reduce the "food noise" in my head, and has truly helped me to not think about food the way I used to through the day. I've been able to learn more about batch meal prepping, and have transitioned to a higher protein, lower fat diet. I've also increased the amount I'm walking everyday, shooting for around 8000-10000 steps per day (where I was averaging around 3500 at the start of this journey).
    For anyone who thinks these drugs are a "cheat" a "quick fix" or anything other than a tool to be incorporated with lifestyle changes, you are incorrect. There is no such thing as a quick fix, my process and progress have not been quick....but I needed help and this is the first time I've consistently stuck with something for this long, and as long as I continue to see results, and learn more about how my body reacts to the foods I'm giving it, I will be positive about this experience.
    My struggles with it....some mild symptoms, like constipation and a full feeling along with some very mild nausea in the first few weeks of the injections; learning how to transition to better food choices and getting my water intake up (not all of those are related to the medication...but the other struggles are still very real for me too)
    I wish everyone the best who is trying this method, and I hope we can all reach our goals together!
    akern1987 wrote: »
    I'm an currently enrolled in a physician monitored weight loss program that does utilize medications. I am currently up to the 1.0mg dose of semaglutide, along with an evening does of metformin (not diabetic, but am insulin resistant and over 300lbs). I have long suffered with binge eating and food addiction disorders and i have found this program to be game changer. I am about 9 weeks in and am 14 pounds down, it's a slow and steady loss, but I have also changed my diet and am working on new habits and lifestyle changes to help me to continue to have success long term, with the guidance of a team and an accountability to be weighed in each week.
    The medication has helped reduce the "food noise" in my head, and has truly helped me to not think about food the way I used to through the day. I've been able to learn more about batch meal prepping, and have transitioned to a higher protein, lower fat diet. I've also increased the amount I'm walking everyday, shooting for around 8000-10000 steps per day (where I was averaging around 3500 at the start of this journey).
    For anyone who thinks these drugs are a "cheat" a "quick fix" or anything other than a tool to be incorporated with lifestyle changes, you are incorrect. There is no such thing as a quick fix, my process and progress have not been quick....but I needed help and this is the first time I've consistently stuck with something for this long, and as long as I continue to see results, and learn more about how my body reacts to the foods I'm giving it, I will be positive about this experience.
    My struggles with it....some mild symptoms, like constipation and a full feeling along with some very mild nausea in the first few weeks of the injections; learning how to transition to better food choices and getting my water intake up (not all of those are related to the medication...but the other struggles are still very real for me too)
    I wish everyone the best who is trying this method, and I hope we can all reach our goals together!
    ‐‐

    I could have written this post.... looking for support if you are interested....I don't know how to "friend request" on MFP...
  • chris_in_cal
    chris_in_cal Posts: 2,520 Member
    Julie31171 wrote: »
    ..I don't know how to "friend request" on MFP...
    It is a pretty good skill to learn for getting the most out of MFP.

    Somehow you get to the person's profile page. MFP makes it a little tricky. You might click on their name (my name @chris_in_cal ) Once there you should see a "go to the MFP profile" button. Then somehow get to their profile page.

    On their profile page, you'll see the "friend request" button. Give it a try, I look forward to getting your friend request.

    --Chris

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,458 Member
    edited February 3
    @Julie31171

    Or note the user name you want to add as a friend, go to the main menu, click on friends and add them here:

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    (This is an alternative way to do it on the iOS app)
  • chris_in_cal
    chris_in_cal Posts: 2,520 Member
    ddsb1111 wrote: »
    CI∞CO <3

    Please log in this week and post.

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10909048/weigh-ins-week-commencing-mon-5th-february

    I hope you are well, I appreciate you logging in last week.
  • Cedura
    Cedura Posts: 184 Member
    I started 3 days ago on Saxenda. Always happy to have more support and friends as we all work to adjust our lifestyle and scale numbers.