thoughts on ozempic and the like

Yeah but I don't think the receptors in every single cell that we've generated over the last 2 million years were waiting around for a drug to make us healthy.

Have you seen the new Nestle's Boost that is supposed to do the same thing as wegovy, zepbound, etc?
It's 125 ml, about 1/2 cup, 10 grams protein, low sugar. At $10.99 a 4-pack, it's about $247/30 days 3 meals a day. Much cheaper than drugs?
Suggested you drink 1 container 30 minutes before each meal. Would 1/2 cup water or milk or clear soup lower your appetite as much? Would 10 grams worth of protein made with your favorite protein drink?
Just thoughts.

Corina1143 wrote: »

Have you seen the new Nestle's Boost that is supposed to do the same thing as wegovy, zepbound, etc?
It's 125 ml, about 1/2 cup, 10 grams protein, low sugar. At $10.99 a 4-pack, it's about $247/30 days 3 meals a day. Much cheaper than drugs?
Suggested you drink 1 container 30 minutes before each meal. Would 1/2 cup water or milk or clear soup lower your appetite as much? Would 10 grams worth of protein made with your favorite protein drink?
Just thoughts.

What Nestle is actually saying is that consuming their formulation can help manage blood sugar levels for people with diabetes and use the terminology like "Glucose Control", "HELP MANAGE BLOOD SUGAR", "DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WITH DIABETES."

Well, that is no doubt a health claim which needs to have FDA approval, which they do not. There's actually a class action lawsuit against Nestle for their misleading claims and that the products do not control glucose levels as advertised, it's actually a silly presupposition and quite arrogant in believing they could actually get away with making claims like this, in my opinion of course.

For example their boost formula has 16g's of protein, 4g's of carbs, all sugars, and 9g's of fat totaling 190 calories
4 ounces of boneless skinless chicken breast is 26g's or protein, no carbs, 2g's of fat for a total of 125 calories. Even beef flank steak will have around the same calories as Boost with 23 g's of protein and about 10g's of fat

The chicken breast will elicit a smaller glucose response and therefore be more effective than any random let alone formulated protein drink, so will the steak.

Here's the total ingredient list for Nestlé Boost Glucose Control:

Water, Milk Protein Concentrate, Tapioca Dextrin, Canola Oil, and Less Than 2% of:

Fructose
Soy Protein Isolate
Cocoa Processed with Alkali
Calcium Caseinate
Sodium Caseinate
Fructooligosaccharides

Vitamins and Minerals (Calcium Phosphate, Sodium Ascorbate, Choline Bitartrate, Magnesium Phosphate, Ascorbic Acid, DL-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, Ferric Pyrophosphate, Zinc Sulfate, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Vitamin A Palmitate, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Copper Sulfate, Chromium Chloride, Folic Acid, Potassium Iodide, Vitamin K1, Sodium Selenite, Biotin, Vitamin D3, Sodium Molybdate, Vitamin B12)

As well as Partially Hydrolyzed Guar Gum, Salt, Cellulose Gel and Gum, Soy Lecithin, Sucralose, Carrageenan, Natural and Artificial Flavor

Semaglutide is the active ingredient in the medication of wegovy and it's actually a synthetic analog of GLP-1, meaning it's designed to resemble GLP-1 closely in the body and whey protein isolates are not that but simply a nutrient when consumed with food will slow digestion, period, but so do vegetables and fat. The gap between whey protein isolates or chicken breast is a canyon compared to an actual synthetic analog of a GLP-1 agonist, not the same thing at all.

Saying it "Promotes GLP-1 natural response to a meal" is disingenuous and taking advantage by way of marketing and imo shameful simply because they know better, that is, what Nestles is doing is supplying the foods that are contributing to the health crisis and then reformulate those same foods to offer a health solution, a cure to obesity, crazy stuff really unless of course, your a shareholder of Nestle.

Nothing in life is easy. I don't know it all, but over the years I have learned a lot about myself and life in general. Now at 61 I know:

It's not easy to raise children.
It's not easy to keep a marriage happy for decades.
It's not easy to live through a divorce or a break-up.
It's not easy to give up smoking, drinking or drugs.
It's not easy to pay off a mortgage every month.
It's not easy to bury and mourn loved ones.
It's not easy to love a pet and have to put it to sleep.
It's not easy to get a degree or an education.
It's not easy to get to work every day.
It's not easy to be sick.
It's not easy to be fat.
It's not easy to stay sane in a world that seems to get insaner by the day.
It's not easy to keep my values.
It's not easy to be nice and kind.

Weight loss is hard, and staying healthy is hard.
Being morbidly obese is hard. Being unable to move as you wish is hard.

If you want something bad enough you will give it your all, even if it hurts at times. At the end of my journey I want to pet my shoulder and be proud of myself, I don't want to congratulate the pharma industry on their financial gains.

I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes in August this year (also with high blood pressure and high -bad- cholesterol numbers). My A1C is now down to 5.7 (borderline). Monday is the next blood work and I am excited. It's me doing it. It's not a medication, an injection, or a pill. It's all me. I have lost 'only' 37 pounds and have 100 more to lose (rephrase ***I am going to lose 100 more***.)

I have been offered Ozempic and I said "NO, not if I can help it!". Why! Because I have taken medications for decades already (chronic pain disease/autoimmune disorder). There are always side effects even if they show up after 10, 20, or 30 years. Everything has a price!~ I have gained 80 pounds in 10 years, just a side effect .

A couple years ago I was facing the same thoughts and was really contemplating if I should use the "quick fix", so I truly understand what you're going through. However, I decided not to do it and for me it was the right choice, because the satisfaction of having put in the work and doing it by yourself was great. My self-esteem increased immensely.