Deep Ketosis

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  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    Good morning Friday ☺️, Feeling great but bored
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    Saturdays are awesome, sleeping in, gym and laundry. Almost 20 days still feeling great, actually feeling a lot better, no bloat no snacking urges or cravings. The mirror is agreeing with me more every day.
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    Good morning, Had an office party last, did good and I could smell everything. Stuck to water and wings. I'll post measurements soon!
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    edited January 20
    /01/2025 Measurements I took, 217.2BW, 20%BF, 32.9BMI, 173.6LBW
    1/05/2025 Measurements I took, 211.8BW, 19.5%BF, 32.1BMI, 170.6LBW
    1/12/2025 Measurements I Took, 210.6BW, 19.3%BF, 31.9BMI, 170.0LBW
    1/19/2025 Measurements I Took, 206.4BW, 18.9%BF, 31.3BMI, 167.6LBW
    1/26/2025 Next Measurements Goal 204
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    Can't' say it enough I Love Mondays, it's a great stepping off point for your next round of gains people, let's go get it!
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    Three weeks in and still feeling great. Full of energy, no hunger and my muscle feel good. A co-worker was asking me about what I am doing and of course I got a little "you can't do that" type of feedback but I pointed out to him we should be able to do this and that the fact he can't go longer than 4 hours without eating, has a skin condition, edema in his legs, and over fat, those are all symptoms of a much bigger medical/metabolic condition going on. He's in his mid-thirties and has a family and I'm not saying my way of eating is right for him, but it works for me, and he should figure out what works for him before it gets worse. I don't argue with people because there isn't a point to because they are not going to change their minds because you want them to.
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    HHD, I really believe we all live a life that is to cluttered with unnecessary things we believe are necessary. With this way of eating and keeping it simple and basic other things in my life have become simpler and more basic, I always wanted to be a minimalist, and it is now just happening naturally. What is necessary for a good diet what is necessary for a good life? What is a good life? Just random thoughts
  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,749 Member
    Your current way of eating and lifestyle are quite interesting. I'm glad you continue to post updates.

    I also agree with your minimalistic viewpoint regarding food and life in general. I've done the same for the past several years and it is very freeing.

    I hope your co-worker will learn from your example. Not necessarily doing exactly what you are doing, but realizing that at his young age, he can (and should) take steps to improve his health.

    Looking forward to the next update!
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    tulips_and_tea wrote: »
    Your current way of eating and lifestyle are quite interesting. I'm glad you continue to post updates.

    I also agree with your minimalistic viewpoint regarding food and life in general. I've done the same for the past several years and it is very freeing.

    I hope your co-worker will learn from your example. Not necessarily doing exactly what you are doing, but realizing that at his young age, he can (and should) take steps to improve his health.

    Looking forward to the next update!

    Thank You
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    Something we all experience being into fitness and nutrition are people always asking us questions, I don't mind answering them but as the years have gone past, I have learned to better engage these people by having a conversation that I feel makes you think on your own, arguing never gets someone to think differently or change their minds. Our bodies are pretty perfect if you ask me, it's the owners that abuse it, that screws it up 😁. Something to deep dive on is Why can we store fat, where we store fat, and what is the purpose. We store fat so we can use it as energy, basic response but we look at it as a feast of famine scenario when it's not we should be burning some fat as energy during the day, every day. Fat is stored in areas to protect our bodies and some areas, so it is more easily used. So, in order to do that we need time between meals to use the energy we brought in and then time to use some fat as energy till we have another meal.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,356 Member
    How's your lactic acid burn from exercising, recovery and energy levels throughout the day?
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    neanderthin wrote: »
    How's your lactic acid burn from exercising, recovery and energy levels throughout the day?

    Lactic acid levels I think are fine, I usually go heavier for low reps considering my energy level. As time goes on, I should be able to go much further, Energy was good than I started to have a slump slightly, So I just increased my meat intake from 2pds a day to 2 1/2 and sometimes more. What I have read is that it takes up to 3 mouths to really get the body ramped up to "using Ketones" but will start producing them right away, and it can take up 2 years to get the whole body on board because just because I don't show signs of Insulin Resistance or am Prediabetic according to the medical community does not mean that certain cells in my body have become insulin resistant. Through my research I've learned that insulin hormone is an energy uptake signal for all cells in our body but once that cell is full it can no longer intake more energy so the way it protects itself is through becoming insulin resistant. And also, reproduction as in the case of a fat cell and Hyperplasia.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,356 Member
    edited January 23
    Lots of bad things happen when fat cells are full, no doubt about that. The body can and will create new fat cells through a process called adipogenesis which is basically referred to as adipocyte hypertrophy and then when the expansion capacity is maxed out, the body starts to form new fat cells (hyperplasia) to store the excess fat. This process (new fat cells) helps maintain energy balance and prevents excessive strain on existing fat cells, which could otherwise lead to inflammation and insulin resistance. Moral of the story, don't add any excess body fat and if someone wants to reduce inflammation and the possible insulin resistance a reduction in adipose tissue does that in spades.
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    Inflammation is the cause of a whole host of issues and Time restricted eating or intermittent fasting or fasting what ever you want to call it can be beneficial. Allowing you digestive tract to heal and cells. Autophagy can start happening 16 to 18 hours after your last meal. Just food for thought 🤔
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,356 Member
    PiPDream01 wrote: »
    Inflammation is the cause of a whole host of issues and Time restricted eating or intermittent fasting or fasting what ever you want to call it can be beneficial. Allowing you digestive tract to heal and cells. Autophagy can start happening 16 to 18 hours after your last meal. Just food for thought 🤔

    Intermittent fasting and autophagy are two separate biological actions. The media and how they generally disseminate information is generally wrong most of the time and 16:8 is not wrong per se because autophagy happens 24 hours a day, it's mostly to promote Intermittent fasting which is totally different biologically, but it does generate likes and clicks and that is job security for most of the pseudoscience they preach. :)
  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,839 Member
    neanderthin wrote: »
    PiPDream01 wrote: »
    Inflammation is the cause of a whole host of issues and Time restricted eating or intermittent fasting or fasting what ever you want to call it can be beneficial. Allowing you digestive tract to heal and cells. Autophagy can start happening 16 to 18 hours after your last meal. Just food for thought 🤔

    Intermittent fasting and autophagy are two separate biological actions. The media and how they generally disseminate information is generally wrong most of the time and 16:8 is not wrong per se because autophagy happens 24 hours a day, it's mostly to promote Intermittent fasting which is totally different biologically, but it does generate likes and clicks and that is job security for most of the pseudoscience they preach. :)

    💯
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    neanderthin wrote: »
    PiPDream01 wrote: »
    Inflammation is the cause of a whole host of issues and Time restricted eating or intermittent fasting or fasting what ever you want to call it can be beneficial. Allowing you digestive tract to heal and cells. Autophagy can start happening 16 to 18 hours after your last meal. Just food for thought 🤔

    Intermittent fasting and autophagy are two separate biological actions. The media and how they generally disseminate information is generally wrong most of the time and 16:8 is not wrong per se because autophagy happens 24 hours a day, it's mostly to promote Intermittent fasting which is totally different biologically, but it does generate likes and clicks and that is job security for most of the pseudoscience they preach. :)

    Intermittent fasting is restricting food intake for a period of time and autophagy is a cellular action, so so IF is not a biological action it is an action that is causing a biological action.
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    Learning to remove bad foods, bad habits and people from your life is maturity 😎
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,356 Member
    edited January 25
    PiPDream01 wrote: »
    neanderthin wrote: »
    PiPDream01 wrote: »
    Inflammation is the cause of a whole host of issues and Time restricted eating or intermittent fasting or fasting what ever you want to call it can be beneficial. Allowing you digestive tract to heal and cells. Autophagy can start happening 16 to 18 hours after your last meal. Just food for thought 🤔

    Intermittent fasting and autophagy are two separate biological actions. The media and how they generally disseminate information is generally wrong most of the time and 16:8 is not wrong per se because autophagy happens 24 hours a day, it's mostly to promote Intermittent fasting which is totally different biologically, but it does generate likes and clicks and that is job security for most of the pseudoscience they preach. :)

    Intermittent fasting is restricting food intake for a period of time and autophagy is a cellular action, so so IF is not a biological action it is an action that is causing a biological action.

    I said IF was a different biological process than autophagy and not that, IF wasn't a biological process.

    IF is basically a dietary eating pattern that improves our insulin sensitivity and help reduce inflammation, it increases HGH (human growth hormone) that can help protect lean mass in the absence of energy, which can last up to about 48 hours. IF can also enhance brain function and cognition through the production of brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF) And it can also increase autophagy which in this context helps by reducing oxidative stress. Oxidative stress occurs when there is an imbalance and can reduce the production of reactive oxygen species (ROS) also known as free radicals. And the one that's got everyone excited is that it can help reduce weight.

    Autophagy includes a process called apoptosis, which is a process that actually programs cell death and removes damaged organelles, proteins, and other cellular debris in case those damaged cells do any further cellular damage. Autophagy is studied quite a bit in the scientific community especially in the fields of cancer and neurodegenerative disorders. Anyway autophagy like I said is active 24 hours a day and IF can increase autophagy and in the research, over 12 hours seems to be the goldilocks zone to maximize those effects and 16:8 is a popular one. 5:2 is another one that maximizes autophagy. High intensity exercise and weight resistance training also increases autophagy and if you work out fasted that helps as well. There's other factors that can contribute but I'll just stop here. :)

    Anyway like I said different processes but they are linked at the hip and generally when someone has done the research into these processes they generally actively use both. Personally I don't actively participate in IF although my eating periods would qualify. I have done when I found myself with a few extra lbs to lose use 5:2 and I found that worked very well for me. I also participate in 36 hour fasts which in a few weeks will be my next one.
  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 49 Member
    Long weekend in the office, but I'm staying strong and losing fat so that's the goal. I'm thinking of se what the Lion Diet would be like for 30 days so I might give it a try and see how I feel. YOLO I'll check in next Monday

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