Need help with how to meet calorie goal diabetic????

Are you allowed dairy too? Eggs milk and cheese would give you more options, at least.

When she says vegetables, does this include potatoes, or sweet potatoes. or squashes?

Bumping as I have a Fit Pal who is struggling with eating enough calories while keeping sugar down so I am interested in people's answers.

My honey is a diabetic and you'll be surprised how quickly the calories add up with just meat and vegetables. Don't worry about it right now just get your sugar under control.

I just want to add it sucks that you've lost so much weight and still have problem with your sugar :frown:

Keep up the good work and keep your head up :flowerforyou:

Just some ideas

Breakfast: Sausage links, sausage patties, veggie patties, bacon, turkey bacon
Lunch: Salad with bacon and veggies, turkey rollups, any and all veggies, leftover meat
Dinner: I am a huge fan of spinach and feta chicken sausage, but there are so many things you can do for dinner
Snacks: raw veggies, deli rollups

I think once you get started you'll realize how easy it is to meet your calorie goal and your dietary restrictions. Good luck!

I eat as little carbs as possible in my diet as well and it has made a huge difference. Trying to find a good balance between carbs and protien is key. I have a basic menu that I was given by a metobolic center it does have some carbs allowed in the diet but they are low and limited as well. (their are also other gaming meat for option B; like deer and squirl and things in that nature but I had lost the list and this is what I had copied from it for grocery shopping but didn't transfer the other because I don't eat those.) Hope this helps and good luck. I actually never end up eating any of the fruit and startches but I know if I do I can stay close to my calorie intake. There just frozed or harder to prepare and I like quick and easy and keep forgetting to take them out of the freezer and such. lol. I've got insuling resistance so my body make to much insulin so I also add in protein drinks theirs some great ones you can use, I like a k20 water protien mix from special k low in calories or some of those others with a lighter meal. I'm always over on protein but it seems to be what my body needs to keep burning the fat.

Basic meal plan
If you are over 200 pounds you get 6 ounces of Meat/ Protein and 4 ounces if under. Remember meat cooks down so the amount is after cooking. Hard cheese can only be a choice once a day. Option B Meat can be chosen only 2-3 times a week. Each serving of vegetables is 8 ounces of raw vegetables or 4 ounces of cooked vegetables.
1.Breakfast: Meat/ Protein, Bread/ Starch.
2.Lunch: Meat/ Protein, Vegetable, Fruit.
3.Dinner: Meat/ Protein, Vegetable, Bread/ Starch.





Meats/ Protein (White Meat) 2oz. Hard Cheese 1 Egg and 1oz. Cheese 2 Md. Eggs 4oz Cottage Cheese Chicken Halibut Tuna Turkey



Option B (Pink Meat) Crab Lobster Shrimp Scallops Salmon



Bread/ Starch 40 cal. Wheat bread Melba toast ¼ C Oatmeal ¼ C Beans

Black, Garbanzo, Pinto, Kidney/ Navy Black eyed peas ½ corn/ flour tortilla 40cal.



Fruits

Sm. Apple Sm. Apricots ½ C Berries Blackberries, Blueberries, Boysenberries, Cranberries, Raspberries, Strawberries 1 C Cantaloupe Md. Peach 1C Pineapple Sm. Grapefruit 1C Honeydew Sm. Orange Md. Tangerine 1C Watermelon



Vegetables Asparagus Bamboo Shoots Bean Sprouts Broccoli Brussels Sprouts Cabbage Cauliflower Celery Collard Greens Cucumber Eggplant Green Beans Green Peppers Lettuce Mushrooms Okra Tomato Snow Peas Spinach Zucchini Summer/ Spaghetti Squash Radishes

Are you type 1 or type 2?

With your blood sugars out of control, THIS is your ONLY thing to track. Until your sugars are in line, you will not be able to do anything that will lead to success. My late bride passed away for not taking care of herself as a type 1... Please heed this. Once your sugars are in line, and it only takes 2 days, then you can focus on tweaking your meals.

Get a list of low glycemic food lists of vegetables, fruits, salads, grains, breads crackers, cakes and pastry, peanut butter best nonplant proteins, and plant proteins etc. You can get this list from www.lifetimefatlooss.com. Print this list. Keep it handy.
Choose high fiber and low glycemic fruits and vegetables along with good protein.
Glycemic Index tells you how quicklly do foods raiseyour blood sugars. That is the reason you choose low glycemic foods.
Choose good, high fiber vegetables, salads along with the good protein in your meals. You can eat good and keep your calorie requirements, by choosing your food from the low glycemic food list. My professional field is nutrition and worked in a nutrition center. You will be able to meet your meal plans and succeed.
There is also a book recommended by Prevention Magazene called "the Diabetes detour diet" by Barbara Quinn, MS, RD, CDE
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Keto is something you should talk to your doctor about first if you're diabetic. It's not well suited for most diabetics, though it might be possible to reduce meds if you're in it. Definitely talk to your doctor though.

And I agree that keto is a good thing, I'm in it myself, but only people without major outstanding issues can hop right on it.

I'm diabetic and my dietitian and doctor said it was not good to completely limit carbs. I've seen several doctors and nutritionists and dietitians since I became diabetic and all of them have instructed me that my meals should look something like the picture I'll link below. Without carbs if you are on meds then your sugar runs the risk of going too low too fast and that can be as dangerous as high sugar. Honestly, I'd get a second opinion, but I dont know your medical history or why a doc would suggest you eat like that.

http://www.pittsburghurbanmedia.com/clientfiles/image/P101_diabetes_plate[1].jpg

Ive always been told 45g of carbs per meal, and 15g snack twice a day to keep sugar even. I dunno. Id definitely talk to the doc.

No offense to you or your doctor, but if you're a Type II diabetic, this is ABSOLUTELY WRONG. The goal should be to use diet and exercise to cure the disease, not to go on a bunch of medicine and then adjust your diet so the meds will work properly! If your body doesn't create or process insulin correctly, then your goal should be to stop burning the sugar & carbs that require insulin. Start getting your energy by burning fat & protein instead. If you do that, you won't need any injections of insulin or any drugs to control it. If your body doesn't detect sugar & carbs in your system, then it won't need or release any insulin: problem solved.

Doctors & the medical profession have been unduly influenced, many without realizing it, by pharmaceutical companies. Those companies would much rather see you spend the rest of your life dependent on their medicines than see you get cured. You can usually cure high cholesterol with diet and exercise, too, but how many doctors just automatically prescribe Lipitor instead of even discussing non-drug possibilities with their patients? Partly, it's because of the patients: they don't want to work, they want a magic pill that fixes everything, so that's what the doctors try to give them. But partly it's physicians who are becoming increasingly ignorant of non-drug-related treatment options.

Of course, when I say "cured," I don't mean that diabetes wll ever magically go away. I just mean that as long as you eat this low-carb, high-protein diet, you can live a perfectly normal, healthy and DRUG-FREE life. My doctor has patients who have been on this type of diet for decades & have never had any problems with it.

Here are more links with info on low-carb diets and Type II diabetes:
http://www.diabetesnewsstand.com/vissue/vernon/titlepage.html
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/diabetes/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3M75cYpx2w

We will unfortunately just have to agree to disagree here. Diet and exercise was the FIRST thing we tried to control my diabetes, then when that didn't work well enough I was put on meds, and then I was taken off my meds and no longer have to take them now that my diet and exercise has caught up and is able to regulate my sugar. I do eat carbs as instructed by my dietitian, and it works out perfectly for me. Let us also remember that not all carbs are created equally, and there are different types. There are very few absolutes in anything pertaining to health since we are all usually very different in the way our bodies react to things. And I still stand by my suggestion that she see a dietitian or get a second opinion from a physician.

... The goal should be to use diet and exercise to cure the disease, not to go on a bunch of medicine and then adjust your diet so the meds will work properly! If your body doesn't create or process insulin correctly, then your goal should be to stop burning the sugar & carbs that require insulin. Start getting your energy by burning fat & protein instead. If you do that, you won't need any injections of insulin or any drugs to control it. If your body doesn't detect sugar & carbs in your system, then it won't need or release any insulin: problem solved.
...you can live a perfectly normal, healthy and DRUG-FREE life. My doctor has patients who have been on this type of diet for decades & have never had any problems with it.

Here are more links with info on low-carb diets and Type II diabetes:
http://www.diabetesnewsstand.com/vissue/vernon/titlepage.html
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/diabetes/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3M75cYpx2w

AMEN

preach it gal!!!

get off carbs if your body can't deal with carbs.

Also, watch FATHEAD on Netflix streaming.

FAT is good to eat!!! Just stay under your calories for the day and you will loose weight!!!

You may want to check out these threads....

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/349701-paleo-eating-who-does-it

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/357394-october-whole-30-for-paleo-primal-support-peeps




There are a lot of people who are diabetic or were on the short path there who have great success with a Primal/Paleo diet.

I'm diabetic and my dietitian and doctor said it was not good to completely limit carbs. I've seen several doctors and nutritionists and dietitians since I became diabetic and all of them have instructed me that my meals should look something like the picture I'll link below. Without carbs if you are on meds then your sugar runs the risk of going too low too fast and that can be as dangerous as high sugar. Honestly, I'd get a second opinion, but I dont know your medical history or why a doc would suggest you eat like that.

http://www.pittsburghurbanmedia.com/clientfiles/image/P101_diabetes_plate[1].jpg

Ive always been told 45g of carbs per meal, and 15g snack twice a day to keep sugar even. I dunno. Id definitely talk to the doc.

WOW, this is old school 1980's advice that led my grandmother to having both legs amputated up to her hips and one arm amputated also due to diabetic neuropathy. She also was going blind due to glaucoma and had heart and kidney issues.

This is what Dr's today are saying................

http://diabetes.about.com/od/nutrition/qt/locarbdiabetes.htm

A Low-Carb Diet Shown to Reverse Type 2 Diabetes
Study Proves Very Low Carb Diet is Effective
From Debra Manzella, R.N., former About.com Guide
Updated March 20, 2009

Does a low-carb diet really help control or even reverse type 2 diabetes? According to a study from Duke University, a very low-carb diet (20 grams or less a day) gave participants better blood sugar control and more effective weight loss than participants who followed a low-glycemic reduced calorie diet.

Eighty-four people with obesity and type 2 diabetes took part in the study. During the study, both groups also had the supportive benefit of group meetings, nutritional supplementation and an exercise program. After 6 months, the low-carb group had lower hemoglobin A1c results, lost more weight, and 95% were able to reduce or even totally eliminate their diabetes medications. The reduced calorie group did lose weight, and 62% of them were also able to reduce or eliminate their medications, but the low-carb diet group had better overall results.

"It's simple," says Eric Westman, MD, director of Duke's Lifestyle Medicine Program and lead author of the study. "If you cut out the carbohydrates, your blood sugar goes down, and you lose weight which lowers your blood sugar even further. It's a one-two punch."

The low-carb diet used in the study is very restrictive on carb intake, with participants eating under 20 grams of carbs a day. This may be difficult for many people to stick to, but as Dr. Westman says, "This is a therapeutic diet for people who are sick," says Westman. "These lifestyle approaches all have an intensive behavioral component. In our program, people come in every two weeks to get reinforcements and reminders. We've treated hundreds of patients this way now at Duke, and what we see clinically and in our research shows that it works."

Keep in mind that there is more to these results than just diet. Both groups also exercised regularly as well. Diet combined with exercise is the cornerstone of diabetes management. Before starting any diet program, please talk with your doctor, or healthcare provider.

Source:

(Jan. 5, 2009). Low-Carb Diets Prove Better at Controlling Type 2 Diabetes . Retrieved February 19, 2009, from DukeHealth.org Web site: http://www.dukehealth.org/HealthLibrary/News/low_carb_diets_prove_better_at_controlling_type_2_diabetes[/link">