60 yrs and up

I never though I'd hear Led Zepplin or KISS as "muzak" at the grocery store….

If you don't already know about the album (OK it was a CD) from 25 years ago called "Prozak for Lovers," you should go seek it out.

Better than Muzak. Still; it was fun to find. I still have a copy somewhere. You can listen to the version of "Proud Mary" that someone posted on YouTube here:

yall, I am not renewing my subscription to MFP. until the kinks are worked out.

My daily diary is so beset with problems of every stripe, I can’t get a handle on it.

Last night it subtracted 6 or 7,000 steps, which affected my calorie account by 100 calories or so.

This morning my today’s step count went DOWN during breakfast in front of my eyes How can you lose steps?

The Negative Calorie adjustment has become unreliable- sometimes just a couple hundred, sometimes three times that. Before, it was fairly consistent and predictable. For those of us who burn a lot of calories, that’s another critical issue

I can’t easily retrieve many foods I’ve used on a daily or weekly basis. I went out of town for 6 days and had to rebuild much of my foods database. That’s annoying.

I can’t copy meals from other days because the days are so scrambled up, my diary doesn’t know what date to copy from because there’s multiple “today, yesterday and tomorrows”.

The 7-day calorie net and 7 day macro averages I rely on are utterly fouled up. It shows I have t eaten hardly anything on some days, and have eaten well over 3500 other days. I try to hit a certain net calorie average, but short of writing them down with a pencil and doing the math myself, the app’s net averages are off, potentially several hundred calories. I don’t have the time or patience for that for an app I pay for

My days are so scrambled up, I can’t pre-log days out, like I prefer to. Yesterday shows as “tomorrow” Saturday shows as “today” Sunday shows as yesterday.

I’m still logging, but it’s ugly and the platform is currently unusable.

And let’s be honest 15 months after the fact I’m still cheesed off that the Newsfeed is gone, yet MFP keeps (and appears to encourage) posts from users seeking friends or motivation buddies. We all know, the only thing they’ll get is some male photo, carefully chosen to appeal to their own profile pic age, of a scammer looking to make a buck off the lonely. That’s out of their hands, but new users racking up lots of friends ought to have some kind of red flag setting. Maybe a friend limit until X number of boards posts.

Speaking of which, these boards are dead. I’m either talking to myself, or to @annpt77, @nossmf, @cmriverside or a handful of other regulars. MFP doesn’t promote the boards.

God bless the folks on this board for hanging in and participating, btw

Inviting bounty hackers in to see where their weaknesses are caused a schlew of spammy posts which has, in turn, caused several-day-old posts to show up as brand new . While I appreciate them (apparently) monitoring the boards for these posts, I don’t want to reread the same first timer posts for days because they keep getting bumped up the feed. Some boards are so dead, the post recent posts is over a week old.

I think you’ll find few users who are as big an MFP cheerleader and fanatic as me It has changed my life But I am frustrated beyond belief right now.

If they can work out the kinks, no one will be happier than me.

I'd love to hear about some of the other options.

I am here mostly for calorie management. So far that seems to be working for me. If it starts to degrade, it won't be a useful tool for keeping me from gaining weight again. I don't want to just abandon all my data, but if I can't access it, that is a fool's errand.

I had tried a couple in the past but didn't stick with them because MFP works for me. If it stops working for me, I'll need a better option. I only started with MFP when the USDA stopped their "Super Tracker" site. It was very klunky, but it was publicly owned. I didn't want to use a commercial service. But I picked one and it worked. It still does. The social part can be nice, but I'm here for my belly.

I do NOT want to do the old fashioned look things up in a book or online with the USDA site. Too time consuming.

@ springlering62

They seem to have worked out nearly all those previous bugs for me, but I use the web version. I tried the app a few different times and it was so buggy I just couldn't.

Yeah, the forums are deader than oak leaves in November. I don't blame anyone for abandoning the site. It's only because I have decades of past data that I stay here and the food logging along with my Excel sheet work for me. Now when I have to get a new computer this month I'm probably going to have to toggle back and forth between two computers and that's gonna be annoying. I probably don't need all the data I've saved, I mean, the past month would be good enough I guess.

Have you sent them that post as a Support Ticket? May or may not help…::oldschoolflowerforyou::

edit started working for a day, and now getting this again:

Sorry, as much as I’ve cheerled for MFP, I feel like I’ve got the right to post some bitchin’.

I’m at my wits end. It’s like watching the app disintegrate before my eyes.

I have to chip in to say that I have had none of the issues mentioned by @springlering62 .

I have been a lurker on this thread for some time (don't worry, I'm well over 60) and very rarely comment but I have to add my pennyworth. I use an android phone and use Chrome on an old laptop for the web version. I use the free version and have been been using it for over 7 years through a few changes.

I've even tried the new diary and frankly, don't see many problems with it. We all have to get used to new software from time to time, we will get used to the new format. My only gripe with the new diary is the date in the top right is in American format - very confusing for this Brit, especially when I was trying it out around the 9th of September - I thought the "yesterday" and "tomorrow" arrows weren't working. 🤷🏻‍♀️ (sigh!)

a lot of people left here and went to Lose It because they had free barcode scanning, but more importantly, they still had a (sorta) Newsfeed.

The free scanning is now behind a paywall. I tried their feed but it was more like a Reddit type format of nested answers and responses. I find that very confusing, plus I liked my selected group of friends. On Lose It, it’s more like these boards. Anyone could see your posts. I couldn’t see the point.

I’ll try to get back in, but they may have done away with the trial, and I’m probably already past the free trial anyway.

Am intrigued by the reviews for Macrofactor. I may spring for a short term membership to check that out. Supposedly their app adapts to your metabolism. How?

There’s also several new AI Calorie Trackers that weren’t there last time I looked. Be interesting to see how that looks.

I am so unenamoured lately with MFP’s whacky, arbitrary and illogical “negative calorie adjustment”, I’m halfway tempted to go straight calorie counting and rely on Apple Watch for tracking calorie burns.

Or, I can hear my husband has just found The Munsters on the TV downstairs. I may just throw up my hands, grab a sack of sweets, and go join him. Like the good ole days.

Seriously , I guess this is my homework this weekend to see if there’s something better out there, or if I continue to limp along, making allowances for known glitches on MFP that don’t see to get fixed.

I am curious though, Those of you experiencing the yesterday, today and tomorrow glitches…..any chance any of you have had a time zone change lately. It did occur to me that my problem started around the time we had a three-zone change flying home from the west coast.

have deleted, rebooted and reinstalled. It errored out multiple times during the reinstall, presumably because of the lengthy user history.

New glitch, as of today, it’s refusing to add steps, even though I’ve tried syncing several times, and have closed out and restarted several times.

As a result of being so “inactive”, despite several workouts today, my negative calorie adjustment is already approaching -300.

I haven't seen most of the problems others reported with logging, but I admit I've been mostly taking a logging holiday lately to see how that goes.

About the bug bounty thing: The people pursuing it in the Community are full bore dopes. The public bounty offer very clearly says the Community is NOT included in the bounty program. It's limited to the regular MFP software, not the Vanilla Forums software that constitutes the Community.

It's a thing where companies offer payment to (theoretically) good-guy techie people - some would say "hackers", specifically "white-hat hackers" - who find bugs, primarily security exposures in the software, and report them to the company so they can be fixed. It's a fairly common thing with large-scale public-facing software applications.

There are various ways of offering or managing the offer. When it's a public offer, it brings out not only quite clever techies who might be involved in private bounty offerings, but also large numbers of beginners or outright dummies (sometimes a.k.a. "script kiddies") who try lots of stupid, ineffectual things. In this case, there are strong hints that the dummies might have reading comprehension issues - didn't read the offer, or didn't understand what they read. 🙄

sorry, didn’t mean to turn this into the bellyache thread, but it’s like the iOS app is crumbling. Had another major issue crop up yesterday, but there’s so many I can’t even remember what it is now.

Only half my steps are syncing, which is making me seem less active, which is throwing off the negative calorie adjustment which throws off net leftover calories. My right brain knows i have about 100 more left than whats showing but my left brain is like “nope, there’s a number there and you’ve always followed the number”.

It’s like having the rug pulled out from under me.

Numerical dysmorphia.

Spent a couple hours reading reviews of other tracking apps to get a handle on their issues. Lots of complaints about lag, small or inaccurate database (I’m assuming crowd sources, too, so that I know how to deal with it ), frequent logouts (oh! That was my problem yesterday! Couldn’t stay logged in and had to verify I was human repeatedly!), a lot of complaints I’d simply put down to inexperience.

Amazingly, one I looked at only records via photos (no manual logging) , and has terrible reviews because you can’t edit quantities. People are reporting the first photo (in this review it was a fried chicken thigh) was logged at 46 calories, the second photo, same thigh, was 600+.

I’m wondering if some of these bounty hackers got in to MFP and did some mischief?

It is sounding to me like the app has not kept up with technology updates - which is a difficult task given the large amount of devices and persons. Not making excuses for them, just saying. One change can affect a gazillion other things - and might not be found for a while.

I am now noticing that there "yesterday" is labeled "tomorrow" on the iOS app. Tomorrow is labeled "today." The day after tomorrow might be correct. The day before yesterday seems correct. It's very weird.

I will go send a support ticket; maybe they'll fix it.

@cruelas01 join us here!

My “real life” experience has been that friends, neighbors, even others in the gym don’t care about your experience, your weight loss wins, loses.

I’ve actually found a much better group of folks here online.