ANNOYING/AGITATING calorie people

i agree that 1800 isn't *that* much. MFP gave me that much when i first began and i lowered it to 1500. these days i can't really even eat 1800 cals without exercising. but 1000 is soooo low.

Eat your calories- "it took more than a day to put it on, it will take more than a day to take it off".

I love that...

Mee toooooo!!!!

So how can I eat under 10000 calories a day then? How can you help me with that?

I'm letting out my frustration. Not looking for a fight-everyone can do what they want it's their body. I'm glad to be getting some friend requests out of this of people with the same thoughts and attitude towards healthy weight loss as me.

That's not the same attitude I read in your first post.

Are you getting friend requests because of a common irritation about other people's calorie intake? You know who else used a common enemy technique? That's right, Hitler.

Sorry, I'm sleepy, and just wanted this debate to reach its natural conclusion quickly. See Godwin's law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

On a veggie diet I don't take in a ton of extra calories, in fact when I wasn't dieting the only difference was my carbs and sugars. So when I stopped eating those I cut my cal intake by almost 1000, seriously, I had a HUGE issue with cookies and cakes and candy. there are 160cals in 3 Oreo or chips ahoy cookies, and I'd eat half a package. or I'd have 2 slices of cheese cake at lunch. even an order of onion rings at a fast food place are 400-700 cals depending on size that's a ton where as a side salad is only 25 or so. I don't complain about trying to get extra calories but I do see people do it, but when you first get into healthy eating habits you aren't sure what are good choices yet so you limit yourself to a handful of foods with out trying.

So don't get mad, they just need more food options.

if you're frustrated, write a blog about it. that's what i and many others have done and i think it has worked out well. as someone who has always been naturally below the lowest number for a healthy BMI it is frustrating for me to have people like you refer to me as anorexic, and unfair to those who do have eating disorders. I have a degree in psychology, I know what an eating disorder is and only a very small part of an ED is what the person consumes, it's classed as a MENTAL illness for a reason. The problem lies in the individual's thinking. rant all you want, on your blog, not in a public forum. the forums are for questions and support.

When I first came to MFP, according to their guided whatchamacallit, I was only given 1350 calories. It sucked so bad and that is why I went over to livestrong, because they gave me 1500 and some change. Same stats, etc....it was tough. I ended up back here because of the ease of use vs livestrong. Anyway, maybe that's why those people are eating that little...because that is what they are given and they have no idea how to customize, or perhaps they're afraid they'll sabotage themselves..
I'm lucky, I get over 2000 cuz I'm trying to gain:bigsmile:

yes I think this might be part of the issue. When I first signed up I was given 1200 and I thought that was too low, so I dropped the settings to 0.5 pounds a week and that increased me to 1480 which think is much more realistic

It makes a difference also with what you list your daily activity at, so you may want to take yours off sedentary.

Agree!

Why am I posting this rant?!? Because I'm sick of posting my daily intake and feeling bad about how high my number is compared to the people complaining about their low numbers being too high

You feel bad about YOUR calories..............so you made a post to tell other grown people how they should eat to alleviate YOUR guilty feelings. Got it.

Wisdom nugget: It's not always about you. Wow - just imagine - people eating how they want to because .....they want to. :noway:

Don't get mad at me for posting this if you don't agree...

You make this immature post on a public forum (read: instead of your blog) so that everyone can read about you and your important feelings - and then you tell everyone who disagrees with you to not get mad. Own up to the fact that you made a public post which many people think is rude and b*tchy,and be prepared to handle the negative responses that come from that. If they were anything like you, they'd demand that you not post here because it makes them "feel bad".

Great post.
To OP: go rant in a blog. Or if you decide to rant here, don't be a baby and tell people how to feel about your post. What are you, the thought police?

I agree that you should post your frustrations in a blog, not on a public forum.

Don't get mad if others disagree with you either. If you post, expect good and bad feedback. That's the beauty of the internet. The 1200 calorie is a guideline, just like BMI is a guideline for a population, not individuals. When you get to the individual, things tend to go outside the 'norm'. It is simple statistics, bell curve type stuff.

My individual diet is done with supervised meal replacements and strict logging of all food, down to coffee creamer. My situation is what is working for me, but it may not be what works for you.

Since your name is runner girl, I assume you run. Imagine if you had a bad back or arthritis and couldn't run. Take those exercise calories away and put your lifestyle at sedentary for a desk job. Once that is done, compare it to your net calories now. I bet with burning exercise calories, your net is lower than others that are losing weight (an assumption - it may not be completely accurate). My point is some people reduce net calories by exercise, others by diet alone, but if you net lower than you burn, you lose either way.

As for the ones crying about not eating enough to get to 1200 cal, rant away. If someone truly has an issue and posts about it, they should understand, the advice you get on the internet is worth what you pay for it. In the end you have to educate yourself and filter the information to get to something you can use.

Wow, allow me to apologise for interfering in your wellbeing by meeting my own goals and eating the way I choose to. Perhaps if you feel insecure about your own calorie intake you could try not looking at other peoples' diaries, or remind yourself that everyone's goals are their own, and if you take in more calories than someone else its probably because, just maybe, your life is not the same as theirs.

Sorry to be harsh but I feel quite strongly that forum posts aimed at shaming or judging the conduct of other members are generally unhelpful.

I agree with you...to each their own

Hm, I think Id' like to make a post titled "Sanctimonious a**hats who just can't BELIEVE you could screw up this weight-loss thing SO badly when it's so easy for them to do it THE RIGHT WAY". Because other people's actions really get in the way of me living my life, and all...

So, in what way has the OP's actions (posting this rant) actually gotten in the way of you living your life to the extent that you feel the need to counter-rant? You're welcome to disagree, of course, but don't pretend you're being any less sanctimonious with your own communication.

People have, for example, simply suggested that a blog posting might have been a better choice.

See I LIKE showing off how much I eat. I keep thinking if people see it, then see my results maybe they will figure out that they could eat more too.

Why am I posting this rant?!? Because I'm sick of posting my daily intake and feeling bad about how high my number is compared to the people complaining about their low numbers being too high.

And why exactly do you feel bad about that? My goal weight is much higher than yours or about 90 percent of the women who post on here. I certainly don't feel bad about that. We're all on here for different reasons so why should you or me or anyone else feel bad for having different goals or calorie intake than others on here? Just curious...