How much Protein is too Much??

You realize the information found in this is based on one, highly discredited resource http://bja.oxfordjournals.org/content/85/1/69.full.pdf+html

If you must take that as your evidence, very well, its your body.

Irony coming from a Taubes fan. We will agree to disagree on this, good day and good luck with your fitness goals.

Is it wrong to promote accurate information? I've gathered for you every study I've read over the years. Feel free, it only took me several years to have found and read through it all.

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Hopefully this bout of work on my part will gain me some credibility.

digitalsteel

Is it wrong to promote accurate information? I've gathered for you every study I've read over the years. Feel free, it only took me several years to have found and read through it all.

Hopefully this bout of work on my part will gain me some credibility.

Making a list of irrelevant and poorly constructed studies and parroting the work of Taubes which has been discredited is pointless. Who wants to fish through your wall of text to see if you have a valid point? I've already read Taubes debate several people and he gets destroyed each time. Poor guy tries to argue against the laws of thermodynamics and the bulk of peer reviewed scientific evidence.

If you want to discuss a few articles then that would be much more productive. However, you'll find that the articles you use to make your point are poorly designed. The studies put carbs in a negative light by mismatching protein levels, having a deficient protein diet or calories levels that are not controlled properly.

You've already been presented with a link to evidence to the contrary which cites sufficient peer reviewed scientific evidence and you've ignored it.

Digitalsteel, you're too predictable: "He would then respond by trying to place the burden on you to explain which ones are irrelevant."

Taubes has already been dismissed. Now, some of us have already scanned through and saw shoddy studies already (Rats), so please pick relevant studies. We don't have to time to sift through all the bull**** you've provided. Posting a study does not make you right. I can post a study about how fruit is delicious but does not make it relevant to my point. Should I expect you to sift through 100 studies on the deliciousness of fruit to see if it's relevant? That's stupid.

I follow Elite Nutrition's advice on a healthy balance of 40% carbs, 40% protein, 20% fat. And when I eat high protein I still try to include some carbs with it to assist in absorption. To me keeping the balance is a higher priority than the calorie counting. I had to create my own excel sheet nifty little calculator since the website lacks in reporting and pie charts for your daily intake. But if you're using default you can adjust your goals in my home-->goals and do a manual set to 40/40/20. Then maybe you won't see that red on protein quite so often.

I follow Elite Nutrition's advice on a healthy balance of 40% carbs, 40% protein, 20% fat. And when I eat high protein I still try to include some carbs with it to assist in absorption. To me keeping the balance is a higher priority than the calorie counting. I had to create my own excel sheet nifty little calculator since the website lacks in reporting and pie charts for your daily intake. But if you're using default you can adjust your goals in my home-->goals and do a manual set to 40/40/20. Then maybe you won't see that red on protein quite so often.

Percentage-based programming can be problematic. Macronutrient targets should be individualzed based on the needs dictated by LBM (or a surrogate measure such as target BW), while factoring activity level. To illustrate the problem with percentage-based setups, 40%C/40%P/20%F would tend to be overly restrictive in fat under hypocaloric conditions. In hypercaloric conditions, it would tend to be needlessly high in protein.

As a junior in a nutrition field I have done a lot of research and read many studies. Carbs may not be absolutely necessary, but they are nothing to fear.

Everyone will have their own opinion of course and I'll leave it at that :]

Gotta agree here.
Some people do great on low carb stuff.
But carbs are essential for serious athletes or anyone who trains intensely.

EDIT: Don't argue with me and give me some BS about bodybuilders doing low carb. When you're altering your hormones with steroids, the same rules don't apply.

Originally posted by digitalsteel: "Is it wrong to promote accurate information? I've gathered for you every study I've read over the years. Feel free, it only took me several years to have found and read through it all. [insert epic wall of irrelevant research] Hopefully this bout of work on my part will gain me some credibility.

I noticed that among the high volume of rodent-based, half-centrury old studies you posted, there are at least 5 articles whose topic is exercise, not high vs low-carb dieting. It looks like you indiscriminately posted the bibliography of a Taubes book. That's quite a lazy, dishonest way to approach an argument.

Originally posted by digitalsteel: "Is it wrong to promote accurate information? I've gathered for you every study I've read over the years. Feel free, it only took me several years to have found and read through it all. [insert epic wall of irrelevant research] Hopefully this bout of work on my part will gain me some credibility.

I noticed that among the high volume of rodent-based, half-centrury old studies you posted, there are at least 5 articles whose topic is exercise, not high vs low-carb dieting. It looks like you indiscriminately posted the bibliography of a Taubes book. That's quite a lazy, dishonest way to approach an argument.

lol. strong username.

I simply posted a list of the studies I read. Are you in capable of reading? I read these, I wasn't using them to reference a specific point. I didn't come to my conclusion by any specific one, I came to it after reading, comparing, dismissing false evidence, and formulating the raw data behind the studies. Stop attempting to insult me by misrepresenting what I post.

Calm down, bro. No need to get defensive the second you get exposed for posting reams of irrelevant research.

This thread made me LOL!

Could someone give me some references to the studies that confirmed the information in this book?

Digitalsteel needs to calm down... He's gonna set off the lunk alarm

Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face. Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.

digital do u even lift?

digital do u even lift?

loled.
aware