OxyElite Pro

i've messed around with apha yohimbine as well, can't say for sure of it's effectiveness though

I've been told it works best with caffeine, but do not take at the same time with EC. Take to yohimbine several hours after the EC doses

that's what lyle recommends, but i've run it with EC for fasted cardio and without and felt no ill effects. prob not recommended if you don't tolerate stims well though

I believe the risk is increased BP when taking all the stims. simultaneously. But if you are a non-responder like my bro you probably feel fine on all three simultaneously.

OEP made me have goosebumps and I was forced to wake up early bc of it.... wierd.
DEF NO WEIGHTLOSS.
I could work out a little harder though because of it.
Whats "EC" and what s"clen" ?

OEP made me have goosebumps and I was forced to wake up early bc of it.... wierd.
DEF NO WEIGHTLOSS.
I could work out a little harder though because of it.
Whats "EC" and what s"clen" ?

EC- Ephedrine and caffeine, Clen- clenbuterol

Ephedrine you can still get OTC. Clen is harder and you have to be aware of where you're getting it from.

Thermogenics are not to be taken lightly.

Well, she asked if anyone had tried it and what their experience was. I personally feel like if you don't have experience with it and are a diet-pill hater, you don't really have any business coming on here and spreading your hatred. Just my opinion. If you don't believe in diet-pills don't take them. But don't go saying something doesn't work if you've never tried it.

Oh get off your high horse and go take a caffeine pill.

NEWSFLASH! None of these pills work.. ever! They are just a bunch of gimmicks.. I know that, and I've never taken one!
The only way to lose weight is through diet, exercise and hard work.. hate to tell both you and OP that, but it's true.

Mhmm.. diet pill hater! :laugh:
I am not ashamed, embarrassed, or feel dumb for saying I try different diet pills out of curiosity. Have I gone to them in the past when I was younger looking for a quick fix? Yep. Did it work? Heck no. (Probably because most of them ARE glorified caffeine pills.) But, I was still eating horribly and not working out. I changed my entire lifestyle, and have worked my but off for the past 9 months to get where I have, and throughout that 9 months I have taken a couple different diet pills. Some just made me jittery and saw no weight loss with, and while doing nothing different, some I lost a few extra pounds with. So call me naive, tell me to drink a cup of coffee, be a diet-pill nazi, whatever. The fact of the matter is I am perfectly healthy, I have NO heart problems, and I TAKE DIET PILLS!

That is all.

Well, she asked if anyone had tried it and what their experience was. I personally feel like if you don't have experience with it and are a diet-pill hater, you don't really have any business coming on here and spreading your hatred. Just my opinion. If you don't believe in diet-pills don't take them. But don't go saying something doesn't work if you've never tried it.

Oh get off your high horse and go take a caffeine pill.

NEWSFLASH! None of these pills work.. ever! They are just a bunch of gimmicks.. I know that, and I've never taken one!
The only way to lose weight is through diet, exercise and hard work.. hate to tell both you and OP that, but it's true.

Mhmm.. diet pill hater! :laugh:
I am not ashamed, embarrassed, or feel dumb for saying I try different diet pills out of curiosity. Have I gone to them in the past when I was younger looking for a quick fix? Yep. Did it work? Heck no. (Probably because most of them ARE glorified caffeine pills.) But, I was still eating horribly and not working out. I changed my entire lifestyle, and have worked my but off for the past 9 months to get where I have, and throughout that 9 months I have taken a couple different diet pills. Some just made me jittery and saw no weight loss with, and while doing nothing different, some I lost a few extra pounds with. So call me naive, tell me to drink a cup of coffee, be a diet-pill nazi, whatever. The fact of the matter is I am perfectly healthy, I have NO heart problems, and I TAKE DIET PILLS!

That is all.

Yep....and the pro-Lady pee say the exacte same thing. It's funny how the same speech can be used for different stupid things

I have used it before and I think that it works. I have a desk job and dont exercise much. I try to stay within a certain calorie amount each day. I may exercise on average about 30min a day. (walking)

I took 3/4 a bottle of the stuff. Didn't see that it made any real difference. The 1,3D stuff is kinda scary to me though so I stopped. I was having dizzy spells after I worked out. Since I stopped taking it the dizzy spells stopped. When I stopped I immediantly gained six pounds over night. Took about 2 weeks to get that back off. I figure it was water weight gain from not having the diuretic properties of the pill.

After that experience I think I'm done with thermogenics.

This is why I dont take them too. I get dizzy spells without them! Oxy Elite didnt do that for me actually. I found that they helped me focus in class without getting jitters.

I have to say that I would rather just drink coffee now xD Gives me energy and is much cheaper xD
(altho I got the Oxy for free from a friends mom)

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Well, she asked if anyone had tried it and what their experience was. I personally feel like if you don't have experience with it and are a diet-pill hater, you don't really have any business coming on here and spreading your hatred. Just my opinion. If you don't believe in diet-pills don't take them. But don't go saying something doesn't work if you've never tried it.

Oh get off your high horse and go take a caffeine pill.

NEWSFLASH! None of these pills work.. ever! They are just a bunch of gimmicks.. I know that, and I've never taken one!
The only way to lose weight is through diet, exercise and hard work.. hate to tell both you and OP that, but it's true.

lol i love it, forums are so fun and silly

Well, she asked if anyone had tried it and what their experience was. I personally feel like if you don't have experience with it and are a diet-pill hater, you don't really have any business coming on here and spreading your hatred. Just my opinion. If you don't believe in diet-pills don't take them. But don't go saying something doesn't work if you've never tried it.

Oh get off your high horse and go take a caffeine pill.

NEWSFLASH! None of these pills work.. ever! They are just a bunch of gimmicks.. I know that, and I've never taken one!
The only way to lose weight is through diet, exercise and hard work.. hate to tell both you and OP that, but it's true.

LOL xD why dont your read some of the posts above?

They can HELP. Most people take them while reducing their calories and increasing exercise.

Why dont you get off your soap box and do some research instead of bashing those who have tried them.

KTHXBAI.

I've reduced my calories and increased my exercise, and I've lost weight.. without the help of any pill. So not exactly sure what the pill is helping.. cause isn't weightloss if you can do without those pills.

I stand by my original statement that they are gimmicks and don't do anything extraordinary to help you lose weight.