Calling all P90Xers

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  • BR1986FB
    BR1986FB Posts: 1,515 Member
    I would add the extra protein shake. The higher protein/lower carbs should help you shed weight, IMO.
  • annhjk
    annhjk Posts: 794 Member
    I'm in my last week of Phase 2! I'm super excited to get into Phase 3 and start to see the *real* results.

    I haven't really had super success so far though. I haven't dropped a single pound or very many inches (I'm small to begin with) but I know there is weight there to lose b/c I gained about 10 pounds in the past year. Anyway, I am definitely feeling tighter and starting to see some definition around my abs (thats what we all are working for anyways, right? haha)

    From what I've been hearing maybe I'm eating way to little?? It's a crazy thought, I usually average around 1400-1500 calories a day (obviously, some days higher and some days lower)...how much more do you think I should be eating...its actually a pretty scary thought to be increasing calories when your trying to lose weight.

    I've been trying the P90X eating plan but I have been having so much trouble eating high protein and low carbs, I just haven't been able to grasp it. Maybe I do need to start having 2 protein shakes a day instead of 1. This could also be a culprit for why I can't shed these pesky pounds!

    I would really like to go into this last phase and see awesome results at the end so any advice would be GREATLY appreciated.

    I put myself back at 1800 calories (instead of 1600). When I started and was at 1800 cals, I dropped 4 lbs in about 2 weeks. When I went lower, I maintained. I'm goign to try to eat more and see if that helps. I usually have egg salad/chicken salad/ or a hamburger quesadilla for lunch, protein shake for breakfast, pure protein bar for am snack, special K protein meal bar for pm snack (now that I can have more carbs). Supper really depends on what we feel like eating - tacos, chicken wrap, porkloin, etc.

    I hope it helps.
  • trenauldo
    trenauldo Posts: 235
    Danielle... If you're starting Phase III and following the nutrition guide, you should see your protein intake decreasing and carb intake increasing when compared with Phase I. My take on that is the first two phases were spent improving body composition (losing fat tissue) and building muscle. By Phase III, that additional muscle will need fuel to burn, hence the increased carbs to keep metabolism high and continue to burn off remaining fat (down to a healthy level, of course).

    So, thought about in that way, if your body's caloric burn has increased substantially with more muscle tissue and continued high-intensity workouts, two things would be true:

    1) Your body needs the additional calories to continue to keep the muscle well-fueled and to assist with continued use of bodily energy stores (fat).
    2) Not taking in enough fuel will trigger a scarcity response in the metabolism, causing it to maintain or increase fuel stores (fat) rather than burning it.

    Upping the protein can be made easier if you really look at your daily intake and see where you can drop some in here and there. As an example, if you're having fruit for a snack, throw in a stick of low-fat string cheese for some extra protein. Little things like that can add up over the course of a day, another reason to use a site like this to really study where your nutritional habits and see where you can make some creative, tasty adjustments to get where you want to be. Keep up the great work!
  • danielle1009
    danielle1009 Posts: 35 Member
    Thank you that all does help. I haven't moved on to Phase 3 eating plan, because I still haven't lost the weight that I intended to, so I was hoping if I can ever grasp the lower carb high protein thing the weight would start to come off.

    I'm going to start by adding an extra shake daily and see if that can help me.
  • BR1986FB
    BR1986FB Posts: 1,515 Member
    I went from the phase I diet to the phase II diet and then back to the phase I diet for phase III. If your body doesn't "bonk" you can stay high protein, I'd imagine.

    From what I've read, unless you are in world class shape going into phase III, you don't need to do that phases eating plan.

    I was not in top shape going into phase III and I guarantee that if I had moved on to the high carb/low protein diet that it suggests that my results would have been nowhere near what they currently are.

    Once I get to phase III in my second round, I might go to this diet but until you're in tip top shape, I just don't see the sense of it. Especially if your body isn't good at ridding itself of carbs (which mine is).
  • paulamma1
    paulamma1 Posts: 544 Member
    Round 1, Phase 2, Week 4 (recovery week).

    I get my Bowtech SelecTechs on Friday, just in time to start Phase 3, Week 1 on Saturday.

    LOVING this program.
  • trenauldo
    trenauldo Posts: 235
    Round 1, Phase 2, Week 4 (recovery week).

    I get my Bowtech SelecTechs on Friday, just in time to start Phase 3, Week 1 on Saturday.

    LOVING this program.
    Paula... Let me know how those SelecTech dumbbells work for you. I've been eyeing a set of those but been a little reluctant as they a fairly sizeable investment (not compared to a full set of dumbbells I suppose).
  • jessmomof3
    jessmomof3 Posts: 4,590 Member
    Paula... Let me know how those SelecTech dumbbells work for you. I've been eyeing a set of those but been a little reluctant as they a fairly sizeable investment (not compared to a full set of dumbbells I suppose).

    They are awesome!!! I just got them from http://www.bowflexselecttech.com and used code HAPPYBIRTHDAY20. That gave me 20% off and free shipping, not sure if the same deal is still going on or not!! :flowerforyou:
  • jessmomof3
    jessmomof3 Posts: 4,590 Member
    Thank you that all does help. I haven't moved on to Phase 3 eating plan, because I still haven't lost the weight that I intended to, so I was hoping if I can ever grasp the lower carb high protein thing the weight would start to come off.

    I'm going to start by adding an extra shake daily and see if that can help me.

    Yep, good advice here. EAT up! And I never really went into Phase 3 eating plan either, the higher carbs just don't work for me. Now at MFP I set mine as 50% carb/ 25% fat/ 25% protein (but I'm also running a lot) so I need the extra carb. Good luck!
  • trenauldo
    trenauldo Posts: 235
    They are awesome!!! I just got them from http://www.bowflexselecttech.com and used code HAPPYBIRTHDAY20. That gave me 20% off and free shipping, not sure if the same deal is still going on or not!! :flowerforyou:
    Thanks Jess. I should have gotten them last year. Costco was selling a set (under the Nautilus brand, but exact same thing as I think Bowflex owns Nautilus now) of the 5-52.5-lb dumbbells plus the stand, and it was like $350 or less I think. I kick myself regularly for not picking those up... lol.
  • ErinS
    ErinS Posts: 20
    i just started the phase one level one diet today and i seriously feel like im going to bust!! im not used to eating this much protein but i totally get why i need it.. its going to be an adjustment for sure!!!
  • annhjk
    annhjk Posts: 794 Member
    i just started the phase one level one diet today and i seriously feel like im going to bust!! im not used to eating this much protein but i totally get why i need it.. its going to be an adjustment for sure!!!

    It's hard at first, but by the end of phase one, you probably won't mind it at all. I know my first few days of lower carb I didn't feel very well around 10:00, but after 3 days, I was fine. Keep working at it. It does get easier and you'll probably see some pretty good results (I was down 4 lb in 2 weeks).
  • fjtcjt
    fjtcjt Posts: 199
    that was very helpful. I am not really trying to lose weight at all. Having my suspicions confirmed was great. Thanks so much. you will surely be hearing from me again.

    The amount of protein to consume is debatable. After researching this topic quite a lot, I would recommend between .7 grams to .9 grams of protein per pound of body weight for males. Bodybuilders will use 1 gram or more per pound because of the extreme weight lifting and muscle breakdown and rebuilding... It does sound like you are not getting enough calories. You are down to the last little bit of stubborn fat and it takes time.

    I am in a similar position as you. I don't want to lose any more weight, I wouldn't mind gaining weight if it is muscle all the while attempting to get leaner. I have been very strict with my diet and I am slowly getting rid of the fat and maintaining my weight, so I guess that means adding a little muscle. If you are running that much, you probably should just stick to the muscle workouts for p90x and skip the cardio and just use your running for that. You need to allow time and energy for your body to recovery!

    Hope this helps.
  • ericpaci
    ericpaci Posts: 8
    thanks fjtcjt.

    Those protein numbers were certainly in the range of what I've seen online. I also saw a few way higher, like 1.5 gm to lb of body weight. I'm trying to get healthier, not die of kidney failure :frown: I'll try your numbers out and see how I feel.

    I'm glad I'm not the only one here with that little stubborn bit. I wasn't strict about diet during week 1, just logged everything I usually do. Week to I started amping up the protein to see if I could get it to balance with shakes and my regular diet. Today is wk 3 day 1 and I am amping up the protein even more and cutting some of the carbs. I'm not way out of the park but need that little bit of chub to go away!
  • annhjk
    annhjk Posts: 794 Member
    thanks fjtcjt.

    Those protein numbers were certainly in the range of what I've seen online. I also saw a few way higher, like 1.5 gm to lb of body weight. I'm trying to get healthier, not die of kidney failure :frown: I'll try your numbers out and see how I feel.

    I'm glad I'm not the only one here with that little stubborn bit. I wasn't strict about diet during week 1, just logged everything I usually do. Week to I started amping up the protein to see if I could get it to balance with shakes and my regular diet. Today is wk 3 day 1 and I am amping up the protein even more and cutting some of the carbs. I'm not way out of the park but need that little bit of chub to go away!

    Try going into goal, custom settings and set your protein/carbs/fat to what you want them to be. I didn't like seeing myself so far over in protein (and not knowing what my goal should be) and under in other areas.
  • fjtcjt
    fjtcjt Posts: 199
    thanks fjtcjt.

    Those protein numbers were certainly in the range of what I've seen online. I also saw a few way higher, like 1.5 gm to lb of body weight. I'm trying to get healthier, not die of kidney failure :frown: I'll try your numbers out and see how I feel.

    I'm glad I'm not the only one here with that little stubborn bit. I wasn't strict about diet during week 1, just logged everything I usually do. Week to I started amping up the protein to see if I could get it to balance with shakes and my regular diet. Today is wk 3 day 1 and I am amping up the protein even more and cutting some of the carbs. I'm not way out of the park but need that little bit of chub to go away!

    No problem ericpaci- The suggestion by annhjk is a good one. Also, you can set it up to track your sugar and salt intake as well. I didn't start watching these until recently and they have really made a difference. Limiting the sugar forces the carbs to be good carbs, and the higher quality foods usually contain less salt.
  • ActionStephen
    ActionStephen Posts: 7 Member
    My wife and I are starting Phase 2 today. i notice some people tend to see more results starting to show at the end of Phase 1 than others. im slightly discouraged because i havent lost anyweight in the way of pounds but i can definately see a difference in muscle tone and build. will phase 2 bring more of a fat burning? i would hate to get ripped but not beable to see it because of this pesky layer of fat that has been tenatious over the years.. any tips concerning nutrition i could try? we have been following the basics of the nutrition plan but i have this strong temptation to keep cutting my caloric intake.
  • sandy429
    sandy429 Posts: 2,779 Member
    My wife and I are starting Phase 2 today. i notice some people tend to see more results starting to show at the end of Phase 1 than others. im slightly discouraged because i havent lost anyweight in the way of pounds but i can definately see a difference in muscle tone and build. will phase 2 bring more of a fat burning? i would hate to get ripped but not beable to see it because of this pesky layer of fat that has been tenatious over the years.. any tips concerning nutrition i could try? we have been following the basics of the nutrition plan but i have this strong temptation to keep cutting my caloric intake.

    I believe most people don't start seeing results until phase two. Nutrition is at least 60-70% of your results. How many calories are you taking in? It's not advisable for men to go below 2000. I'm a beachbody coach, so send me a message, and I'd be happy to help you out!
  • sandy429
    sandy429 Posts: 2,779 Member
    Those protein numbers were certainly in the range of what I've seen online. I also saw a few way higher, like 1.5 gm to lb of body weight. I'm trying to get healthier, not die of kidney failure :frown: I'll try your numbers out and see how I feel.

    Don't worry. I had the same concerns about upping my protein, but the problem occurs when you have too few carbs. As long as your balancing carbs & protein, you'll be fine. Also, you don't want to stay on phase 1 of the nutrition guide longer than six weeks. You'll need the carbs for energy to really push through the workouts.
  • sandy429
    sandy429 Posts: 2,779 Member
    Paula... Let me know how those SelecTech dumbbells work for you. I've been eyeing a set of those but been a little reluctant as they a fairly sizeable investment (not compared to a full set of dumbbells I suppose).

    They are awesome!!! I just got them from http://www.bowflexselecttech.com and used code HAPPYBIRTHDAY20. That gave me 20% off and free shipping, not sure if the same deal is still going on or not!! :flowerforyou:

    I put them on my Christmas list! I think I'm getting the P90X pull up bar for my bday! Yay!
  • cjbranson
    cjbranson Posts: 121
    Finished round 1 on Thursday... taking a little break although my husband I did Abs Core + last night. Will start P90X+ for 90 days starting probably in a week.

    Check out my profile for the link to my blog... :wink:
  • annhjk
    annhjk Posts: 794 Member

    They are awesome!!! I just got them from http://www.bowflexselecttech.com and used code HAPPYBIRTHDAY20. That gave me 20% off and free shipping, not sure if the same deal is still going on or not!! :flowerforyou:

    I put them on my Christmas list! I think I'm getting the P90X pull up bar for my bday! Yay!

    This should go on Banks' fitness fanatic thread. Who needs jewelry - just give me anything from BeachBody dot com :smile:
  • jessmomof3
    jessmomof3 Posts: 4,590 Member
    This should go on Banks' fitness fanatic thread. Who needs jewelry - just give me anything from BeachBody dot com :smile:

    You know it!! I love my P90X chinup bar and pushup stands! :bigsmile:
  • ErinS
    ErinS Posts: 20
    just finished the first workout!! i feel great! it was tough
  • ericpaci
    ericpaci Posts: 8
    It only gets better. Just remember, the more you hate Tony now, the more you will like him later.
  • annhjk
    annhjk Posts: 794 Member
    just finished the first workout!! i feel great! it was tough

    wait til tomorrow (PLYO). My only advice is that you don't drink too much water during the workout (or eat before it). I almost threw up during it. But I do love seeing how much better my jumps get! And the hour goes pretty quickly.
  • Skrib
    Skrib Posts: 18

    They are awesome!!! I just got them from http://www.bowflexselecttech.com and used code HAPPYBIRTHDAY20. That gave me 20% off and free shipping, not sure if the same deal is still going on or not!! :flowerforyou:

    I put them on my Christmas list! I think I'm getting the P90X pull up bar for my bday! Yay!

    This should go on Banks' fitness fanatic thread. Who needs jewelry - just give me anything from BeachBody dot com :smile:

    I have looked a few times at those dumbells, but I just can't get past the size of the things. Seems to me they would interfere with form on some routines - have you noticed any problems with that?? For now I have stuck with individual weights.
  • ericpaci
    ericpaci Posts: 8
    I'm wondering what people put in for the plyo under the exercise tab.
  • jessmomof3
    jessmomof3 Posts: 4,590 Member
    I'm wondering what people put in for the plyo under the exercise tab.

    High impact aerobics is probably a good choice. :wink:
  • jessmomof3
    jessmomof3 Posts: 4,590 Member
    I have looked a few times at those dumbells, but I just can't get past the size of the things. Seems to me they would interfere with form on some routines - have you noticed any problems with that?? For now I have stuck with individual weights.

    I haven't noticed them getting in the way on anything other than upright rows. (and I just pulled my elbows out more) They are really easy to use and I love them! :bigsmile:
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