Non processed, easy breakfast

havalinaaa · November 2011

Eggs can be quick! If you have a microwave, just scramble them in a microwavable cup and toss some veggies in there, microwave for about 30 seconds, and voila, instant omelette. And you don't need to add any butter/oil or worry about leaching from a non-stick pan. If you cut the veggies up at night and put them in the cup in the fridge, your total time is under one minute from opening fridge to eating.

UponThisRock · November 2011

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Cavemen didn't eat lean meat, they ate the more calorie dense fatty portions.

Hmmm, your posts tend to be of a more smart assed nature rather then helpful btw. It was more to say no gound beef, processed bacon and what not.

I apologize, I post on other forums that are a bit more hard-edged, and I forget that the custom of this forum is a bit different.

The point I was attempting to get across was that a "cave man diet" is based on the faulty assumptions that (1) we know how cavemen ate, (2) all cavemen ate the same and (3) a caveman's diet is optimal.

No prob, You know us chicks we get cranky when it comes to our wieght. And the "Caveman" thing was more of a nickname not an outline of the diet. Basic out line was given of all natural non processed foods, which makes it difficult to find snacks but that is good because it makes you consider what your putting in your mouth.

Admittedly, my diet is probably very close to the one you describe, except that when I want pizza or ice cream, I eat it and don't feel bad about it.

mehinalani · November 2011

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Cavemen didn't eat lean meat, they ate the more calorie dense fatty portions.

Hmmm, your posts tend to be of a more smart assed nature rather then helpful btw. It was more to say no gound beef, processed bacon and what not.

You know that when i get to where i want to be, i will be doing that in monderation and just make sure i keep in my cals, but for right now i am not just eating this way for wieght loss, i am training for my first triatholon in spring, so i am trying diffrent fuels to see how it can optimize my work outs.
I apologize, I post on other forums that are a bit more hard-edged, and I forget that the custom of this forum is a bit different.

The point I was attempting to get across was that a "cave man diet" is based on the faulty assumptions that (1) we know how cavemen ate, (2) all cavemen ate the same and (3) a caveman's diet is optimal.

No prob, You know us chicks we get cranky when it comes to our wieght. And the "Caveman" thing was more of a nickname not an outline of the diet. Basic out line was given of all natural non processed foods, which makes it difficult to find snacks but that is good because it makes you consider what your putting in your mouth.

Admittedly, my diet is probably very close to the one you describe, except that when I want pizza or ice cream, I eat it and don't feel bad about it.

I will pobably do that to when i reach a more stable wieght, however this is not just for wieght loss purposes i am also training for a triatholon in spring so i am really just trying to see what can fuel me the best to optimize my workouts.

UponThisRock · November 2011

I will pobably do that to when i reach a more stable wieght, however this is not just for wieght loss purposes i am also training for a triatholon in spring so i am really just trying to see what can fuel me the best to optimize my workouts.

With what (admittedly little) I know about endurance training, you'd want a lot higher carb diet then the one you describe.

Also, you don't look like you need to lose any more, imo.

questionablemethods · November 2011

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I don't want to get into a debate here, but after doing a lot of reading about the "paleo" diet, I don't know that those are really the assumptions. Perhaps it was at first, but I believe things have become more nuanced. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I'd say that the general assumption is that "looking to evolutionary clues as well as ancestral diets might be a good place to start when forming research questions about what diet is optimal for human health." I've never seen anyone claim that all paleolithic people ate the same or that we know exactly what they ate, but we do know what they probably DIDN'T eat, and so that is where people have looked first for foods that might be leading to chronic disease. The question as to whether a diet that reduces/eliminates "neolithic" foods is optimal remains open, I'd say.

I really like this quote by Cordain about "paleo" being a guiding framework (www.cathletics.com/articles/downloads/proteinDebate.pdf)

The study of human nutrition remains an immature science because it lacks a universally acknowledged unifying paradigm (11). Without an overarching and guiding template, it is not surprising that there is such seeming chaos, disagreement and confusion in the discipline. The renowned Russian geneticist Theodosius Dobzhansky (1900-1975) said, “Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution” (12). Indeed, nothing in nutrition seems to make sense because most nutritionists have little or no formal training in evolutionary theory, much less human evolution. Nutritionists face the same problem as anyone who is not using an evolutionary model to evaluate biology: fragmented information and no coherent way to interpret the data.

It's a nice enough theory, but the effect is that you end up excluding foods that are perfectly healthy, and demonizing others that don't negatively affect one's health when taken on moderation.

For a lot of people, I'm sure that's likely the case. That's also why most people accept an 80/20 rule with 20% treats that your body can handle. The only way to really know what foods your body "can't handle" (make you feel like crap, or worse) is to eliminate them for a period of time and then reintroduce them. Some people see no difference at all. So, YAHTZEE for them. Personally, I experience many immediate problems with dairy and grains (except, I think, my acne rosacea, which cleared up nicely when I eliminated those), but I also have something going on causing me to not ovulate/ovulate irregularly. My couldn't really offer any help except to suggest a drug to help stimulate ovulation. Personally, I'd rather start trying to fix things with nutrition if possible before taking a drug. Poking around indicates that gluten and casein might be the first culprits. So, I don't have a problem avoiding those for several months.

However, I don't personally see how 6-11 servings of grains/day is "moderation" at all, especially considering that researchers suspect that only a small fraction of people with gluten sensitivity or even full-blown celiac disease are ever diagnosed since they are now learning that it can manifest in a myriad of different ways that are NOT gastro-intestinal and the antibody tests are prone to giving false negatives. But that's another issue entirely.

Regmama · November 2011

Have diced veggies and scramble with eggs and pop in the microwave. It takes all of 2 minutes at the most for them to cook up fluffy in there and the only dishes that need to be cleaned are the bowl you cooked them in and ate them out of and the fork you ate with.

tjnahm · November 2011

fry up some bacon, saute some veggies (we use peppers, broccoli, cauliflower, & onions), add the crumbled bacon, scramble in several eggs, and grate some sharp cheddar (if you are following a Primal Diet... Paleo = skip the cheese) and enjoy with a sliced avocado.

Best. Breakfast. EVER!

tiggerbounce411 · November 2011

Ive been challenged by my co worker who is a fitness guru, to do a "caveman" diet, Bassically cutting out everything proccessed, and sticking with the basics, veggies, fruit, nuts,eggs and lean meat. I am eating basically fruit in the mornings however i need somthing quick and more substancial to get me through my work outs, that last about an hour and a half in the morning and an hour in the afternoon. Any sugestions?

you have to up your protien if you don't have stamina to get thru your workout. You should ingest protien BEFORE your workout to fuel your body for it.

mehinalani · November 2011

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I will pobably do that to when i reach a more stable wieght, however this is not just for wieght loss purposes i am also training for a triatholon in spring so i am really just trying to see what can fuel me the best to optimize my workouts.

With what (admittedly little) I know about endurance training, you'd want a lot higher carb diet then the one you describe.

Also, you don't look like you need to lose any more, imo.

The Carb thing has been an issue however, ive been trying to utlize alternitive to bread. ie: fruits. I am trying to keep my protien intake up so i can still continue to build mussle. Thank you btw but its still a work and progress.

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