Day 1 of HCG
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D. I really need to feed my family better foods - no more hamburger helper around here, I will be feeding them healthy home cooked meals from now on
Um, the HH could have been a gimme if you would have just read the side of the box. No need for *ANY* kind of diet to figure that one out.
I keep reading that the VLCD part of this is only for 21 days... however, I see people going through multiple "cycles" of this. That would be more than 21 days.0 -
My friend has lost about 23 lbs. in a month on HCG. She can certainly do it and has gotten results. I wouldn't be able to do that though... 500 calories is too low.
I can lose 30 lbs in a month WITHOUT doing the HCG diet.
+1111111 I've lost over 80 pounds in 80 days, and I eat well over 2K calories a day. Just have to find what works for you. If people want to do the HCG diet and it works for them though, who are we to stop them.
I like to eat. My body doesn't work if I don't eat. And, ya know, things like my heart start to fail and I kinda need that.0 -
Too much DRAMA here for me! Good luck to you all....BYE0
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I'm loving this! i'm going to grab a small mix of popcorn and healthy nuts and pulses and sit back and watch this one unfold. Oh and I cna do that because I'm allowed to eat on my 'diet'.
Can I join? This has been hilarious so far!0 -
I also find it funny that the biggest nay sayers on this forum, also ask some of the most basic questions revealing that they have not researched the diet at all, they are just jumping on a bandwagon out of boredom. Here is a "cliffnotes" version of the diet plan:
A. If you want to lose 15 pounds or less - you do the 21 day plan
B. If you have more to lose, the max length of a VLCD round is 40 days
C. After the VLCD round is complete and you have lost the weight you are going to lose for that round you record that weight and for the next three weeks your mission is to maintain that weight +/- 2 pounds. You are allowed to consume your MFP maintenance calories during this time (I am 5'6" and 145 pounds, so MFP put me at around 1800 calories) with one stipulation, you can not eat refined sugar or starch - so you get your carbs from fruits and veggies only, but there is no limit on fat and protein. I regularly exceed my protein and fats for the day, but keep my carbs at about 50-75, and I have maintained beautifully.
D. After the three weeks of maintenance, you get slowly reintroduce carbs and find out how certain ones will affect you. This is eating for life, so you learn about whether or not a potato causes you to gain, but a piece of whole wheat toast is fine, etc.
Again, this is a diet that teaches you about your own body. It is not for everyone. If it's not for YOU, that is understandable. It's like quitting smoking, it's a habit change and a lifestyle change, and if you are not ready to make that commitment, and just want to keep going with your giant bowl of popcorn and expect to be healthy, then maybe someday it will finally click in your brain that "Hey! Popcorn has zero nutritional value, it is a starch, and when I pour copious amounts of butter on it then add a bunch of nuts I am going to have a fat *kitten*!" but if I just eat the nuts, I'm fine. Weird!
It was more of a ploy that the average person here has more then 15 pounds to lose and would be going over the mythical 21 day mark you keep throwing out.. hey I can do drugs for 21 days and it'd have no effect on me what so ever right? As long as I stopped at 21 days, that is just a horrible argument to make. That since it's a small amount of time it'll have no effect on you no matter how small of time. Again I'm fine with the diet just make sure you aren't pumping sunshine where their needs to be a black box label. All diets have down falls. Gastric Bypass has huge ones that people try to sunshine pump over as well.0 -
if this doesn't sound like its for you then its not, and you don't have to do it.
Good luck to you!0 -
My friend has lost about 23 lbs. in a month on HCG. She can certainly do it and has gotten results. I wouldn't be able to do that though... 500 calories is too low.
I can lose 30 lbs in a month WITHOUT doing the HCG diet.
+1111111 I've lost over 80 pounds in 80 days, and I eat well over 2K calories a day. Just have to find what works for you. If people want to do the HCG diet and it works for them though, who are we to stop them.
I like to eat. My body doesn't work if I don't eat. And, ya know, things like my heart start to fail and I kinda need that.
You sound like a spiker, on spike day I even eat 5k calories ;-) I even eat the evil carbs and I still dropped 4.5 pounds last week. I love me my cinnamon rolls!0 -
if this doesn't sound like its for you then its not, and you don't have to do it.
Good luck to you!
Nope not for me, and if I hadn't gotten the snotty treatment from someone (not you) I'd probably have let this die. But I suffer from a bad vengeful personality. It's a big character flaw, and no lack of carbs can fix it.
I am impressed with what you have been able to do on hcg, apparently it was for you!0 -
d2football has noted a very important part of the dieting. What works for one may not work for the other. These forums are meant for support, and if something someone else is doing is working for them then let's support then in their efforts. I do understand that HCG is in no way a catch all, but I will attest to it helping loose weight. Personally, it has helped me eat healtheir foods overall. The diet is very restrictive for the time you are on it, but once I am done, I plan on continuing with a healthy diet. More calories of course. I also consume 800 - 1000 calories instead of the 500 calories the original diet states with the same type of lean meats and veggies. I have seen great strides of progress with this meal plan and I am getting much more of he essential nutrients throughout the day that are needed to full the body along with the fat preserves being accessed with the HCG. Lost 6 pounds in 1 week. That's good especially while eating 800 - 1000 calories a day.0
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I also find it funny that the biggest nay sayers on this forum, also ask some of the most basic questions revealing that they have not researched the diet at all, they are just jumping on a bandwagon out of boredom. Here is a "cliffnotes" version of the diet plan:
A. If you want to lose 15 pounds or less - you do the 21 day plan
B. If you have more to lose, the max length of a VLCD round is 40 days
C. After the VLCD round is complete and you have lost the weight you are going to lose for that round you record that weight and for the next three weeks your mission is to maintain that weight +/- 2 pounds. You are allowed to consume your MFP maintenance calories during this time (I am 5'6" and 145 pounds, so MFP put me at around 1800 calories) with one stipulation, you can not eat refined sugar or starch - so you get your carbs from fruits and veggies only, but there is no limit on fat and protein. I regularly exceed my protein and fats for the day, but keep my carbs at about 50-75, and I have maintained beautifully.
D. After the three weeks of maintenance, you get slowly reintroduce carbs and find out how certain ones will affect you. This is eating for life, so you learn about whether or not a potato causes you to gain, but a piece of whole wheat toast is fine, etc.
Again, this is a diet that teaches you about your own body. It is not for everyone. If it's not for YOU, that is understandable. It's like quitting smoking, it's a habit change and a lifestyle change, and if you are not ready to make that commitment, and just want to keep going with your giant bowl of popcorn and expect to be healthy, then maybe someday it will finally click in your brain that "Hey! Popcorn has zero nutritional value, it is a starch, and when I pour copious amounts of butter on it then add a bunch of nuts I am going to have a fat *kitten*!" but if I just eat the nuts, I'm fine. Weird!
It was more of a ploy that the average person here has more then 15 pounds to lose and would be going over the mythical 21 day mark you keep throwing out.. hey I can do drugs for 21 days and it'd have no effect on me what so ever right? As long as I stopped at 21 days, that is just a horrible argument to make. That since it's a small amount of time it'll have no effect on you no matter how small of time. Again I'm fine with the diet just make sure you aren't pumping sunshine where their needs to be a black box label. All diets have down falls. Gastric Bypass has huge ones that people try to sunshine pump over as well.
I agree it is a horrible argument to take, unfortunately everyone buys their HCG from different places and the information they get or maybe even understand is not necessarily the most accurate info.
I know it is so many pages ago, but the drops help the Hypothalamus get back on track, that is the part of the brain responsible for how many calories our body will use from our food, how much fat will be stored, whether that fat is considered abnormal fat or normal fat in the body's view, and which fat reserve will be utilized first in a weight loss scenario, among many other things.0 -
I also find it funny that the biggest nay sayers on this forum, also ask some of the most basic questions revealing that they have not researched the diet at all, they are just jumping on a bandwagon out of boredom. Here is a "cliffnotes" version of the diet plan:
A. If you want to lose 15 pounds or less - you do the 21 day plan
B. If you have more to lose, the max length of a VLCD round is 40 days
C. After the VLCD round is complete and you have lost the weight you are going to lose for that round you record that weight and for the next three weeks your mission is to maintain that weight +/- 2 pounds. You are allowed to consume your MFP maintenance calories during this time (I am 5'6" and 145 pounds, so MFP put me at around 1800 calories) with one stipulation, you can not eat refined sugar or starch - so you get your carbs from fruits and veggies only, but there is no limit on fat and protein. I regularly exceed my protein and fats for the day, but keep my carbs at about 50-75, and I have maintained beautifully.
D. After the three weeks of maintenance, you get slowly reintroduce carbs and find out how certain ones will affect you. This is eating for life, so you learn about whether or not a potato causes you to gain, but a piece of whole wheat toast is fine, etc.
Again, this is a diet that teaches you about your own body. It is not for everyone. If it's not for YOU, that is understandable. It's like quitting smoking, it's a habit change and a lifestyle change, and if you are not ready to make that commitment, and just want to keep going with your giant bowl of popcorn and expect to be healthy, then maybe someday it will finally click in your brain that "Hey! Popcorn has zero nutritional value, it is a starch, and when I pour copious amounts of butter on it then add a bunch of nuts I am going to have a fat *kitten*!" but if I just eat the nuts, I'm fine. Weird!
It was more of a ploy that the average person here has more then 15 pounds to lose and would be going over the mythical 21 day mark you keep throwing out.. hey I can do drugs for 21 days and it'd have no effect on me what so ever right? As long as I stopped at 21 days, that is just a horrible argument to make. That since it's a small amount of time it'll have no effect on you no matter how small of time. Again I'm fine with the diet just make sure you aren't pumping sunshine where their needs to be a black box label. All diets have down falls. Gastric Bypass has huge ones that people try to sunshine pump over as well.
I agree it is a horrible argument to take, unfortunately everyone buys their HCG from different places and the information they get or maybe even understand is not necessarily the most accurate info.
I know it is so many pages ago, but the drops help the Hypothalamus get back on track, that is the part of the brain responsible for how many calories our body will use from our food, how much fat will be stored, whether that fat is considered abnormal fat or normal fat in the body's view, and which fat reserve will be utilized first in a weight loss scenario, among many other things.
Thank you, for clearing that up.0 -
Hey, I'm all for eating healthy foods. Make sure and eat lots of fresh vegetables and fruits and nuts and get in your protein too!
But there are all sorts of healthy eating, clean eating -- whatever you want to call it -- diet plans you can do without dropping your calories to starvation level or using HCG!
Isn't that exciting news!0 -
I'm a lab scientist and worked for hospitals for 20something yrs. The HCG diet is a fad and not healthy. It's also no permanent fix. On the brighter side, if one is extremely obese , anything that will kick start weight loss is a positive thing. It may just be what gets you motivated and start on a weight loss journey. I hope all the negative feedback doesn't discourage you because there are a lot of really nice , compassionate and encouraging friends on Mfp. Look for those who support you in your goals. Good luck to you !0
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I noticed the above thread talking about muscle loss, if the diet is done properly. Meaning the dosage is proper and that person has enough abnormal fat. They should not starve or loose muscle. My fat % is 24% and I weigh 172 lbs wearing a size 8 us jean.
How you find out if you have enough abnormal fat is you get your body fat % measured, if it is in the normal range regardless of your weight then you do not have enough fat reserve and this diet is not for you at all even if you are in the high normal range.
I hope this helps.
and what the hell is abnormal fat, fat is fat , there is no abnormal , there is accessive. the only thing i could qualify as abnormal fat is a Lipoma and only surgery gets rid of that.0 -
Obviously I could have figured out that HH is not healthy for my family to eat regardless, my point was, I never really used to think about it before. Until a month ago, I had never stepped foot in my Sprouts up the street, now I regularly shop there. It has changed me, and it was because I took the time to do my homework and folliow the directions in Dr. Simeons manuscript. If I was going to eat healthy fruits, veggies, and protein - then I may as well cook that way for my whole family. Who are all athletes and though they eat a lot and never gain, I still think I am feeding them better now, rather than my old standard meat and potatoes dinners that I used to prepare.
Also, I did 21 days because MY goal was to see if I could lose 15 pounds of baby weight that had not budged after my CrossFit episode. And, bam, gone! Some people do multiple rounds, but it is imperitive that they rest for a minimum of 6 weeks between rounds. Many are able to do this successfully - but that takes unbelieveable will power and strength to be admired, because my 21 days of VLCD were hard for me, so I can't imagine doing more than one round. It is tough, but effective, and for some, and not others.0 -
In a healthy person this part of the brain will utilize the # of calories according the person's BMR and activity level and will use the fat from the reserves first, so gut or hips for intsnace.
In an obese person this part of the brain is scued; it will use less calories than the BMR says the person is supposed to consume, so the person is eating normally and still gaining weight. Also it may tell the body that the fat reserves are normal fat that the body needs and the normal fat is abnormal. This is in woman who loose weight from their breasts and face first and their gut or hips are remaining the same size.0 -
In a healthy person this part of the brain will utilize the # of calories according the person's BMR and activity level and will use the fat from the reserves first, so gut or hips for intsnace.
In an obese person this part of the brain is scued; it will use less calories than the BMR says the person is supposed to consume, so the person is eating normally and still gaining weight. Also it may tell the body that the fat reserves are normal fat now that the body needs and the normal fat is abnormal. This is in woman who loose weight from their breasts and face first and their gut or hips are remaining the same size.
Sorry but I have to:
*skewed
*lose0 -
if the person does not want to gain back the weight after they are done it is important to understand that some foods prevent HCG from having an ever lasting effect on the Hypothalamus those are the food we need to stay away from in the VLCD and then introduce slowly in maintenance.0
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In a healthy person this part of the brain will utilize the # of calories according the person's BMR and activity level and will use the fat from the reserves first, so gut or hips for intsnace.
In an obese person this part of the brain is scued; it will use less calories than the BMR says the person is supposed to consume, so the person is eating normally and still gaining weight. Also it may tell the body that the fat reserves are normal fat now that the body needs and the normal fat is abnormal. This is in woman who loose weight from their breasts and face first and their gut or hips are remaining the same size.
Sorry but I have to:
*skewed
*lose
thank you, I am not perfect...0 -
In a healthy person this part of the brain will utilize the # of calories according the person's BMR and activity level and will use the fat from the reserves first, so gut or hips for intsnace.
In an obese person this part of the brain is scued; it will use less calories than the BMR says the person is supposed to consume, so the person is eating normally and still gaining weight. Also it may tell the body that the fat reserves are normal fat now that the body needs and the normal fat is abnormal. This is in woman who loose weight from their breasts and face first and their gut or hips are remaining the same size.
Sorry but I have to:
*skewed
*lose
thank you, I am not perfect...
No problem. Always happy to help.
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There are THOUSANDS of ways to eat healthy, think about eating healthy, get into healthy eating that don't involve injecting pregnancy hormones into your body and starving!
Haven't you passed the book rack or magazine stand and seen all the healthy living publications? Or haven't you ever gone to the grocery store and seen fresh produce? Or have you ever gone to a restaurant and walked passed a salad bar?
This idea that you never even though about healthy eating until you did HCG is sooooooo laughable.0 -
then you do it, by all means. I chose HCG, followed it to the T and it worked. I am happy
No one is forcing you to do anything0 -
<-- picturing RachelSNO being forced to take HCG, Joke!0
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Fatassfairy:
1. Essential Fat: the pads on the bottom of your feet and palms of your hands, as well as lining your internal organs so they don't rub up against your bones and get damaged
2. Normal Fat: Typically the amount of fat an average person with a normal BMI will have - about 20-25% for women, and oh I can't remember, but around 15% for men I think
3. Abnormal Fat: any fat you have above and beyond the norm for your BMI
HTH!0 -
RachelSNO - glad it makes you feel better to laugh at me! But if you saw me in person now you would not be laughing. Jokes on you!0
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RachelSNO - glad it makes you feel better to laugh at me! But if you saw me in person now you would not be laughing. Jokes on you!
Come on silkaclark, we aren't like her, don't sink to her level.0 -
Fatassfairy:
1. Essential Fat: the pads on the bottom of your feet and palms of your hands, as well as lining your internal organs so they don't rub up against your bones and get damaged
2. Normal Fat: Typically the amount of fat an average person with a normal BMI will have - about 20-25% for women, and oh I can't remember, but around 15% for men I think
3. Abnormal Fat: any fat you have above and beyond the norm for your BMI
HTH!
What about Brown, White, Subcutaneous, and Visceral? Sorry being a butthead, will take my leave for a bit :-D0 -
I noticed the above thread talking about muscle loss, if the diet is done properly. Meaning the dosage is proper and that person has enough abnormal fat. They should not starve or loose muscle. My fat % is 24% and I weigh 172 lbs wearing a size 8 us jean.
How you find out if you have enough abnormal fat is you get your body fat % measured, if it is in the normal range regardless of your weight then you do not have enough fat reserve and this diet is not for you at all even if you are in the high normal range.
I hope this helps.
and what the hell is abnormal fat, fat is fat , there is no abnormal , there is accessive. the only thing i could qualify as abnormal fat is a Lipoma and only surgery gets rid of that.
Not true, fat is not just fat.
Brown Fat : Brown fat is now thought to be more like muscle than like white fat. When activated, brown fat burns white fat.
White Fat : White fat is much more plentiful than brown, experts agree. The job of white fat is to store energy and produce hormones that are then secreted into the bloodstream.
Subcutaneous Fat: Subcutaneous fat is found directly under the skin. It's the fat that's measured using skin-fold calipers to estimate your total body fat.
Visceral Fat: Visceral or "deep" fat wraps around the inner organs and spells trouble for your health. How do you know if you have it? "If you have a large waist or belly, of course you have visceral fat," Whitmer says. Visceral fat drives up your risk for diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and even dementia.0 -
Fatassfairy:
1. Essential Fat: the pads on the bottom of your feet and palms of your hands, as well as lining your internal organs so they don't rub up against your bones and get damaged
2. Normal Fat: Typically the amount of fat an average person with a normal BMI will have - about 20-25% for women, and oh I can't remember, but around 15% for men I think
3. Abnormal Fat: any fat you have above and beyond the norm for your BMI
HTH!
What about Brown, White, and Visceral? Sorry being a butthead, will take my leave for a bit :-D
Make those friendships ever lasting....
Hey its how you made fiends with me right!
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Fatassfairy:
1. Essential Fat: the pads on the bottom of your feet and palms of your hands, as well as lining your internal organs so they don't rub up against your bones and get damaged
2. Normal Fat: Typically the amount of fat an average person with a normal BMI will have - about 20-25% for women, and oh I can't remember, but around 15% for men I think
3. Abnormal Fat: any fat you have above and beyond the norm for your BMI
HTH!
What about Brown, White, and Visceral? Sorry being a butthead, will take my leave for a bit :-D
Make those friendships ever lasting....
Hey its how you made fiends with me right!
That is how it works. If you don't crack, befriend them!0
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