Day 1 of HCG
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Sorry d2footballJRC, I knew I freinded you for a reason.
I never heard of this colorful fat before, it seems just another way of explaining it.0 -
Sorry d2footballJRC, I knew I freinded you for a reason.
I never heard of this colorful fat before, it seems just another way of explaining it.
Yep I found brown fat to be really interesting, its crazy the differences in all the fats we have.0 -
Fatassfairy:
1. Essential Fat: the pads on the bottom of your feet and palms of your hands, as well as lining your internal organs so they don't rub up against your bones and get damaged
2. Normal Fat: Typically the amount of fat an average person with a normal BMI will have - about 20-25% for women, and oh I can't remember, but around 15% for men I think
3. Abnormal Fat: any fat you have above and beyond the norm for your BMI
HTH!
that would be excessive fat, fat cells are fat cells, abnormal fat cells would be a tumor.0 -
Fatassfairy:
1. Essential Fat: the pads on the bottom of your feet and palms of your hands, as well as lining your internal organs so they don't rub up against your bones and get damaged
2. Normal Fat: Typically the amount of fat an average person with a normal BMI will have - about 20-25% for women, and oh I can't remember, but around 15% for men I think
3. Abnormal Fat: any fat you have above and beyond the norm for your BMI
HTH!
that would be excessive fat, fat cells are fat cells, abnormal fat cells would be a tumor.
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D2Football, if I could "Like" your post, I would LOVE it instead
Off to work at my pesky scientist job now! Bye!! 0 -
To those of you who are on the HCG diet, I would suggest that you get off the plan and get your calories back up to at least 1,200 a day as soon as possible. Even though the HCG diet is getting a lot of press these days, there is no medical evidence to back up it's claims, and most weight loss experts recommend that you eat at least 1,200 calories a day, and more if you are exercising.
Eating only 500 calories a day will cause your body to be very malnourished in a short time. HCG does NOT work as advertised and does NOTHING to help with weight loss or make it safe to eat so little. People on a fast stop being hungry after a few days too -- that has NOTHING to do with HCG, but it's how your body tries to protect itself as well as possible in time of famine. But being in starvation mode will cause your metabolism to slow down -- which is the opposite of what you want if you are trying to lose weight. Yes, you may lose for a while when you are only eating 500 calories a day, but when you have to eat in a normal calorie range again, the weight will come right back.
The articles below have numerous links about research that's been done on the HCG diet program by doctors and scientists around the world.
Good luck with your weight loss, but I don't think the HCG diet will get you where you want to go.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/truth-about-hcg-for-weight-loss
http://www.dietscam.org/reports/hcg.shtml
http://www.tucsonmedical.com/pages/hcg.php
The proof is in the results... I am down 78 pounds since April.... my husband is down 97 pounds since April.... my mother-in-law who is 57 and has hypothyroidism has lost 55 lbs... I could go on and on about ACTUAL results that I have seen with my own 2 eyes. During our maintenance phase when we go up to 1500 cals we are not gaining...if the body was in starvation mode we would be gaining with the extra calories.
But anyone eating only 500 calories/day is going to experience major weight loss. I think that's the part that gets under people's skin. The hormone isn't doing anything. A lot of the time people are using drops and stuff that don't even contain the hormone but they are still losing weight. If people want to eat 500 calories/day to lose weight then that's their business, but save your money and just starve yourself if that's the path you want to take (but please don't do it!).0 -
F. No we are not losing muscle tone
I. After the conclusion of the three weeks of VLCD, you will resume exercise and begin to tone
So HCG stops Muscle Cannibalism? You'd think body builders would load up on it while cutting. Then also if you don't lose muscle tone why do you need to tone in point I? You are making a claim that HCG can do what no other diet can then.
I think you mean muscle catabolism, although I find muscle cannibalism funny since that's sort of what's going on I guess 0 -
No diet that instructs you to stop exercising so you can try and survive on a starvation calorie level diet could possibly be healthy!0
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Wow...I can't get over the negitive replies! I would NOT being doing this if...
1. It wasn't OK by doctor (I also work for a doctor as well)
"Dr. A.T. Simeons, an English physician specializing in treating overweight patients, noticed that human chorionic gonadotropin mobilized abnormal fat in patients that were taking it for other conditions. After much research it was discovered that HCG corrects a poorly functioning hypothalamus gland so it can control your appetite and burn 2000 calories from the abnormal fat reserves. As the abnormal reserves are released, patients lose weight, the body reshapes itself and as a pleasant side benefit, often the energy, blood pressure, blood sugar and metabolism are restored to normal. Consequently, besides losing weight, migraine headaches, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis, immunological and endocrinological conditions have reduced in intensity or disappeared."
"The HCG then takes abnormal fat that has been stored and changes it into an energy that the body can use. This is equal to burning 200 or more calories in a day. Continuous dieting or yo-yo dieting damages the body's natural ability to regulate weight. HCG stimulates the part of the brain that regulates weight and works to restore this ability. This prevents regaining the weight that is lost. As HCG makes the stored abnormal fat available for consumption, the body starts using the fat to live off of. The fat is now providing a source of energy similar to the energy provided by food consumption. Patients are instructed to consume no more than 500 calories from food intake per day. Because the abnormal fat has been turned into energy, the reduced calorie intake is not noticed, and hunger is not a side effect. The new energy source is equal to 3,500 calories being consumed on a daily basis.
For the process to work, the individual must stay on a strict diet and remain under medical supervision. While about one pound of weight is lost per day, the weight loss does not always happen in an even manner." -EHOW.COM
2. I didn't know anyone who did it before
*I have over 5 friends who have done this and lost their weight and they have all kept it off (some over a year now)
3. I had to do 500 calories for a long period of time (3 weeks is not long, besides it is no different than fasting),
* The key is to slowly build your calorie level back up to a "normal" level
4. It had any type of human hormone in it (mine 100% hormone free)
5. I thought this was a quick "win"/way to lose weight (I am simpling using it to get a jump start on weight loss and I know there is
not a quick solution regarding losing weight)
I am not knocking anyone elses diet/way to lose weight, so please if you do not have anything positive to say then don't reply. I have done my research on this and all I simply asked for was advice not negitive feedback. To each its own!
The ehow article doesn't seem to cite any scientific sources. I've tried and tried to do research and find credible scientific resources that detail how the hormone acts on fat stores, how they determined that it is equivalent to burning 3500 calories/day, etc... and I have had a hard time finding much accurate, unbiased information. I found a number of independent, scientific studies on PubMed.com and Web of Science that determined that patients following the diet with hcg and patients following the diet with placebo had no difference in weight loss results.
Simeons published his book in 1954 and was a physician when endocrinology (hormone signalling and control) was a newly emerging field. A lot of progress has been made in endocrinology research since then and coming from a scientific perspective his findings are likely outdated.
The majority of hcg information I find online is from sites that are promoting/selling the diet, so I am hesitant to trust them, especially when they can't cite their research sources.0 -
If HCG reduces hunger and cravings, then why do pregnant women have both?
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F. No we are not losing muscle tone
I. After the conclusion of the three weeks of VLCD, you will resume exercise and begin to tone
So HCG stops Muscle Cannibalism? You'd think body builders would load up on it while cutting. Then also if you don't lose muscle tone why do you need to tone in point I? You are making a claim that HCG can do what no other diet can then.
I think you mean muscle catabolism, although I find muscle cannibalism funny since that's sort of what's going on I guess
I knew it was catabolism I just wasn't sure how to spell it and didn't want to have the grammar nazi card thrown at me! I didn't have access to my supplement that says on the side that it helps prevent muscle catabolism. :-D0 -
If HCG reduces hunger and cravings, then why do pregnant women have both?
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Pretty sure that is because they are around us men, which is enough to drive any woman to a food binge and moody.0 -
A lot of body builders have used HCG successfully to get more cut.
That is not the reason body builders use HCG, they take other drugs for cutting. They take HCG post steroid cycle to jump start their natural test production, or they take it during a steroid cycle to prevent their natural test production from stopping in the first place.0 -
Fatassfairy:
1. Essential Fat: the pads on the bottom of your feet and palms of your hands, as well as lining your internal organs so they don't rub up against your bones and get damaged
2. Normal Fat: Typically the amount of fat an average person with a normal BMI will have - about 20-25% for women, and oh I can't remember, but around 15% for men I think
3. Abnormal Fat: any fat you have above and beyond the norm for your BMI
HTH!
that would be excessive fat, fat cells are fat cells, abnormal fat cells would be a tumor.
Don't forget about the essential fats in your spinal column and behind your eyes.0 -
A lot of body builders have used HCG successfully to get more cut.
That is not the reason body builders use HCG, they take other drugs for cutting. They take HCG post steroid cycle to jump start their natural test production, or they take it during a steroid cycle to prevent their natural test production from stopping in the first place.
Interesting, I know it has other uses, Dr. Oz warned women from using it as a way to look younger.
I just thought it was interesting.0 -
Sadly, some docs are misinformed, give poor advice, practice quackery and even lose their licenses.Wow...I can't get over the negitive replies! I would NOT being doing this if...
1. It wasn't OK by doctor (I also work for a doctor as well)
"Dr. A.T. Simeons, an English physician specializing in treating overweight patients...0 -
With me personally i went on that diet and stuck with it for a month and didn't see any results. I did exactly what i was supposed to. Some of my friends went on it and it worked for them and now they look terrific! But i guess im just one of those people it dosn't work for, its not for everyone 0
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I would think my Doctor would know how to use his own devise.
First, any idiot can use a bioimpedance machine, I am telling you they have been proven to be inaccurate. Body calipers are a lot more accurate so if you want a true reading ask for that.
also, why won't you provide me your starting measurements?
Thirdly, below is a thread from another forum that shows organs caloric requirements. And our bodies organs use 1200 calories a day, how is supplying 500 calories going to allow them to function proper?
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PS- Will someone for the love of dog, please give me body fat and weight before and after numbers. I will very easy so immediate affects to metabolism very easily.0
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wow, I am sorry but you come off like a very angry person I don't know if it is true. Why don't you have an apple that usually cheers me up.0
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I thought this was supposed to be a place you can go to find support and alk to people who like yourself want to lose weight, not to bash someones way of doing so. I have had nothing but support from people on MFP, it is discouraging to see people being so negative towards someone. Are we trying to push her away from asking for any kind of support?0
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Wow...I can't get over the negitive replies! I would NOT being doing this if...
1. It wasn't OK by doctor (I also work for a doctor as well)
"Dr. A.T. Simeons, an English physician specializing in treating overweight patients, noticed that human chorionic gonadotropin mobilized abnormal fat in patients that were taking it for other conditions. After much research it was discovered that HCG corrects a poorly functioning hypothalamus gland so it can control your appetite and burn 2000 calories from the abnormal fat reserves. As the abnormal reserves are released, patients lose weight, the body reshapes itself and as a pleasant side benefit, often the energy, blood pressure, blood sugar and metabolism are restored to normal. Consequently, besides losing weight, migraine headaches, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis, immunological and endocrinological conditions have reduced in intensity or disappeared."
"The HCG then takes abnormal fat that has been stored and changes it into an energy that the body can use. This is equal to burning 200 or more calories in a day. Continuous dieting or yo-yo dieting damages the body's natural ability to regulate weight. HCG stimulates the part of the brain that regulates weight and works to restore this ability. This prevents regaining the weight that is lost. As HCG makes the stored abnormal fat available for consumption, the body starts using the fat to live off of. The fat is now providing a source of energy similar to the energy provided by food consumption. Patients are instructed to consume no more than 500 calories from food intake per day. Because the abnormal fat has been turned into energy, the reduced calorie intake is not noticed, and hunger is not a side effect. The new energy source is equal to 3,500 calories being consumed on a daily basis.
For the process to work, the individual must stay on a strict diet and remain under medical supervision. While about one pound of weight is lost per day, the weight loss does not always happen in an even manner." -EHOW.COM
2. I didn't know anyone who did it before
*I have over 5 friends who have done this and lost their weight and they have all kept it off (some over a year now)
3. I had to do 500 calories for a long period of time (3 weeks is not long, besides it is no different than fasting),
* The key is to slowly build your calorie level back up to a "normal" level
4. It had any type of human hormone in it (mine 100% hormone free)
5. I thought this was a quick "win"/way to lose weight (I am simpling using it to get a jump start on weight loss and I know there is
not a quick solution regarding losing weight)
I am not knocking anyone elses diet/way to lose weight, so please if you do not have anything positive to say then don't reply. I have done my research on this and all I simply asked for was advice not negitive feedback. To each its own!
The FDA states otherwise. In fact, synthetic HCG is banned by the FDA and the state there is NO proof that it has a direct effect in weight loss. Starving yourself is what makes you lose weight.0 -
three people in my office did this. One guy lost 45lbs and has since gain at least half of it back. Another girl that did this only lost 10lbs on this program (I think she cheated a lot more than she admitted). While doing the HCG program she lost almost all friends she had in the office because of her cranky and sometimes downright evil behavior. The other girl that tried it gave up after two weeks because her husband was fed up with her acting crazy.0
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I would not recommend this approach to any weight loss program. I am a true believer in eating healthy and exercise. I am not saying that we always do this but that should be the approach we use to get the a healthier self. It is not just what is on the scale but how you are treating your vital organs like your heart, liver, kidneys. Your body requires a certain amount of nutrients to be able to function properly and this is not the way.0
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What do you after you lose weight and stop the injections? You can't eat only 500 calories forever.
Just sayin'...:flowerforyou:0 -
Hi angelapolite,
after you stop the HCG you will have to wait 3 days staying on the 500 calorie diet with no HCG to ween it out of the system, then eat your regular BMI calories for your activity level.
Mine is 2000 calories/day unless I exercise then I eat more0 -
I know there is a lot of info on here like 7 pages worth, but if you read through all that has already been answered. Also there is an open group for HCG, feel free to join us with any questions you may have over there. 0
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PS- Will someone for the love of dog, please give me body fat and weight before and after numbers. I will very easy so immediate affects to metabolism very easily.
I started at 36.8% (according to Dr. with the fat pinchers, my omrom thingie said 39%) I'm at 26-28% depending on device/calibers/fat tester thing. It's been 91 days. I didn't use HCG though.0 -
Hi angelapolite,
after you stop the HCG you will have to wait 3 days staying on the 500 calorie diet with no HCG to ween it out of the system, then eat your regular BMI calories for your activity level.
Mine is 2000 calories/day unless I exercise then I eat more
Thanks! I'm not judging anyone's diet preference. I just been down the "fad diet" route, it didn't work for me. But that's JUST ME:flowerforyou:
Congrats on your loss! :happy:0
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