male physique and your perception?
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Really in the end, Id say its how you carry yourself. I know lots of guys who work out a ton, but they are not confident or comfortable around the fairer sex, and it ends up just causing them to beefy lonely guys0
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Girls (and guys?) If you see a guy that has big arms and you can tell he worksout do you presume he gets lots of girls and has no problem with the ladies? I ask this because from my perspective it is true.
No I don't assume it's true just looking at their arms/body.... Not all men who work out do I think are attractive (to me anyway)
Honestly.... If I find their face unattractive I don't bother checking out the rest. A body can be improved... a face? well not so much.0 -
Chicks dig my Tibialis Anterior.
Yeah, I see you 'mirin.0 -
Honestly, if a guy has supersized biceps, I tend to stay AWAY from them. Not because I think he's a ladies' man or anything, but because there's something disconcerting about the thought of being with someone who could crush my skull with his bare hands...0
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I don't like men to be flabby where there should be muscle I personally find it unattractive and unappealing - no good as hunter gatherer. However, too much is also offputting and not my cup of tea but that doesn't stop me from wanting to know how they achieve that look, what motivates them and why they wear silly t-shirts!
For me (happily married), men should have good teeth, great sense of humour and have a toned physique, clean clothes, smell nice and short clean finger nails.
If you asked me what I couldn't compromise on - it would be the finger nail thing!!0 -
Girls (and guys?) If you see a guy that has big arms and you can tell he worksout do you presume he gets lots of girls and has no problem with the ladies? I ask this because from my perspective it is true.
No, but I'm going to read some of the replies in here and see what the consensus is. Since we're on a fitness site the results could be skewed a bit, but nonetheless it will be interesting to see what people write.
I say no because I don't think women are nearly as visually stimulated, and additionally (and more importantly) I think men really over-think the importance of physique.
Just don't smell too bad, try to make yourself look presentable, and shut your mouth and listen to them and that goes a lot futher than biceps.
I think this is possibly the case as you get older? But certainly in your 20's there is a lot of pressure on looks.
I don't think that pressure is coming from women.0 -
I've heard personality is more attractive than big arms. I am currently working on both so I'll have the 1-2 combo [/url]
And that's why you are so hot, Scott0 -
Girls (and guys?) If you see a guy that has big arms and you can tell he worksout do you presume he gets lots of girls and has no problem with the ladies? I ask this because from my perspective it is true.
No, but I'm going to read some of the replies in here and see what the consensus is. Since we're on a fitness site the results could be skewed a bit, but nonetheless it will be interesting to see what people write.
I say no because I don't think women are nearly as visually stimulated, and additionally (and more importantly) I think men really over-think the importance of physique.
Just don't smell too bad, try to make yourself look presentable, and shut your mouth and listen to them and that goes a lot futher than biceps.
Oh if I was single, I'd definitely "holla" at you lol.
Anyway, in my line of work about 85% of the males I see on a daily basis have excellent physiques. Not all of them are appealing.
While some have an omg body, their face is well.....:huh: Others have the total package but act like idiots, and others are just kinda ditzy and vain.
And yeah, please don't smell like *kitten* or sweat either, no matter how muscular or not you are.0 -
I workout legs and calves but in my opinion, it is really hard for most men to gain muscle on the lower body
just like i presume it is tougher for females to gain muscle on the upper body
<<<---pic of best lower body i could do0 -
It depends on what the rest of him looks like & how he sounds when he opens his mouth. Hope you wanted honesty.
I second that! Arms aren't the only thing that gets girls. Let alone looks, unless youre a narrow minded chicks maybe. But not all of us are like that or looking for that. It really depends on attitude with the body that goes hand in hand.0 -
I would imagine that such a male would have a great INTEREST in the ladies (or guys, who knows), but I wouldn't automatically assume he has tons of luck with them... Personality is an important factor, especially once you get into the realm of an actual relationship, rather than a fling.
On a side note, different girls have different preferences for guys... personally, I am not at ALL attracted to the muscley look. Lean and athletic is one thing, but once they start bulking up, I am not interested... haha. That's just me though.0 -
I usually tend to think really built men do have very good luck with women.
I've ALWAYS stayed away from them.0 -
I workout legs and calves but in my opinion, it is really hard for most men to gain muscle on the lower body
just like i presume it is tougher for females to gain muscle on the upper body
<<<---pic of best lower body i could do
I guess I'm sort of lucky. All those soccer years during grade school, bmx biking and powerlifting days have made sure my legs are decent. Not huge but decent. I have more definition in my legs then anywhere else.
Hard to see under the hair though.0 -
Girls (and guys?) If you see a guy that has big arms and you can tell he worksout do you presume he gets lots of girls and has no problem with the ladies? I ask this because from my perspective it is true.
No, but I'm going to read some of the replies in here and see what the consensus is. Since we're on a fitness site the results could be skewed a bit, but nonetheless it will be interesting to see what people write.
I say no because I don't think women are nearly as visually stimulated, and additionally (and more importantly) I think men really over-think the importance of physique.
Just don't smell too bad, try to make yourself look presentable, and shut your mouth and listen to them and that goes a lot futher than biceps.
I think this is possibly the case as you get older? But certainly in your 20's there is a lot of pressure on looks.
Not true. I am 21 year old. Looks can only go so far. In high school though, I was about as deep as a puddle. After dating a few HOT- but stupid- men, I started opening up to new ideas. So glad I did, I met some really great men. Looks fade, stupidity is forever0 -
I would imagine that such a male would have a great INTEREST in the ladies (or guys, who knows), but I wouldn't automatically assume he has tons of luck with them... Personality is an important factor, especially once you get into the realm of an actual relationship, rather than a fling.
On a side note, different girls have different preferences for guys... personally, I am not at ALL attracted to the muscley look. Lean and athletic is one thing, but once they start bulking up, I am not interested... haha. That's just me though.
I agree, super buff seems unnatural to me. Swimmers, water polo players, and soccer players tend to have really nice bodies.0 -
Hummm... I never would have thought about this.... I don't think just because you look like a million bucks, that automatically means you are attractive. Hell I'm sure it helps get the ladies (or men) but I think your personality, and mind is what counts. What you look like only opens the door, anyone can have trouble finding love. Like me...really I'm shy and would feel intimidated, so I'd prolly not talk to them let alone try and pick them up...I'm sure im not the only one... So good looking guys may not get hit on...0
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I workout legs and calves but in my opinion, it is really hard for most men to gain muscle on the lower body
just like i presume it is tougher for females to gain muscle on the upper body
<<<---pic of best lower body i could do
Definitely do not say that to anyone on fitness/body building sites.Not true. I am 21 year old. Looks can only go so far. In high school though, I was about as deep as a puddle. After dating a few HOT- but stupid- men, I started opening up to new ideas. So glad I did, I met some really great men. Looks fade, stupidity is forever
I think when the OP says 'luck with ladies' he's referring to being able to pull girls. For example in this country, especially in late teens/20s, people usually 'get lucky' with girls at clubs and bars. They pull and end up at someone's house.
In that instance, regardless of personality or how clever you are, people go off looks.
I would have thought that lads who have beach bodies would probably do better in clubs for that sort of thing - perhaps not on the dating side, but definitely pulling.0 -
I workout legs and calves but in my opinion, it is really hard for most men to gain muscle on the lower body
just like i presume it is tougher for females to gain muscle on the upper body
<<<---pic of best lower body i could do
Definitely do not say that to anyone on fitness/body building sites.Not true. I am 21 year old. Looks can only go so far. In high school though, I was about as deep as a puddle. After dating a few HOT- but stupid- men, I started opening up to new ideas. So glad I did, I met some really great men. Looks fade, stupidity is forever
I think when the OP says 'luck with ladies' he's referring to being able to pull girls. For example in this country, especially in late teens/20s, people usually 'get lucky' with girls at clubs and bars. They pull and end up at someone's house.
In that instance, regardless of personality or how clever you are, people go off looks.
I would have thought that lads who have beach bodies would probably do better in clubs for that sort of thing - perhaps not on the dating side, but definitely pulling.
I suppose you are right, but most ladies that want to have a real connection don't go to clubs or bars for the purpose of meeting someone for a relationship. (ladies, if you are, you are doing it wrong). And yes, I guess if I wanted a one night stand sort of deal, I would scan the room for the most physically attractive man that looks like he could also rock my world in bed (definitely an "if" statement because I've never been guilty of this myself- not that their is anything wrong with that, but it takes me a while to get warmed up with a partner and a one night stand sound less than enjoyable). But, with all that being said, just because you are really hot doesn't mean you are good in bed. I rather hook up with a five who knew what he was doing, then a ten who bored me in that area. I realize I am a little off track, but my point was it is still better to have a rockin sense of humor and personality along with knowing how to please your partner; because even for a casual hook up you can still pull more girls with the right words and attitude. Its boring to rely on looks alone =P0 -
I would imagine that such a male would have a great INTEREST in the ladies (or guys, who knows), but I wouldn't automatically assume he has tons of luck with them... Personality is an important factor, especially once you get into the realm of an actual relationship, rather than a fling.
On a side note, different girls have different preferences for guys... personally, I am not at ALL attracted to the muscley look. Lean and athletic is one thing, but once they start bulking up, I am not interested... haha. That's just me though.
I agree, super buff seems unnatural to me. Swimmers, water polo players, and soccer players tend to have really nice bodies.
I agree... the soccer-player phisique is my perception of "ideal" if we're going on looks alone :bigsmile:0 -
I'm curious.
Why do some men, NOT workout their legs to match the top? Don't they notice or am I missing something? Maybe this should be another topic.
Because 70% of the male gym population don't truly understand what they're doing, and how muscle growth works. So they work out the 'disco' muscles like arms and abs because they believe it's the most aesthetic look.
But what they don't understand is, skinny legs on a big top half looks stupid, and, legs being the biggest muscle group, release more growth hormones when they're worked on.
Very true. You would also be amazed how many of these gym junkies are unfit, all that lifting and no cardio. I am all for pumping iron but we get guys come down to the dojo to learn MMA and within five minutes they look like they are about to die.0 -
I workout legs and calves but in my opinion, it is really hard for most men to gain muscle on the lower body
just like i presume it is tougher for females to gain muscle on the upper body
<<<---pic of best lower body i could do
Definitely do not say that to anyone on fitness/body building sites.Not true. I am 21 year old. Looks can only go so far. In high school though, I was about as deep as a puddle. After dating a few HOT- but stupid- men, I started opening up to new ideas. So glad I did, I met some really great men. Looks fade, stupidity is forever
I think when the OP says 'luck with ladies' he's referring to being able to pull girls. For example in this country, especially in late teens/20s, people usually 'get lucky' with girls at clubs and bars. They pull and end up at someone's house.
In that instance, regardless of personality or how clever you are, people go off looks.
I would have thought that lads who have beach bodies would probably do better in clubs for that sort of thing - perhaps not on the dating side, but definitely pulling.
I suppose you are right, but most ladies that want to have a real connection don't go to clubs or bars for the purpose of meeting someone for a relationship. (ladies, if you are, you are doing it wrong). And yes, I guess if I wanted a one night stand sort of deal, I would scan the room for the most physically attractive man that looks like he could also rock my world in bed (definitely an "if" statement because I've never been guilty of this myself- not that their is anything wrong with that, but it takes me a while to get warmed up with a partner and a one night stand sound less than enjoyable). But, with all that being said, just because you are really hot doesn't mean you are good in bed. I rather hook up with a five who knew what he was doing, then a ten who bored me in that area. I realize I am a little off track, but my point was it is still better to have a rockin sense of humor and personality along with knowing how to please your partner; because even for a casual hook up you can still pull more girls with the right words and attitude. Its boring to rely on looks alone =P
If you want a meaningful relationship, Id agree that bars or clubs are definitely not the place to go. I have had friends who have had long lasting relationships from meeting the other sex there but for the most part I'd say that there are much better avenues. The problem is that in a western society its pretty much the status quota to pick up a girl/guy in an alcohol related scene, a bit of dutch courage does wonders for most people when it comes to self confidence. I have tried approaching girls outside of these areas to engage in conversation and if it went well ask them out but it can be awkward if you do not know them. The internet seems to be the way of the future in a society that is growing more and more alienated from every day personal interaction, in fifty years time with the way technology is going there will not be many reasons to leave the house.
As for people being good in bed, most of my really good looking male friends boast about how they pick up girls and don't really care about putting in a good performance if its just a one night stand because they know that tomorrow night, they will more than likely get it again. When I am sitting at the bar with my best mate and he gets approached by girls who make it quite clear in no uncertain terms what they want to do to him, he just casually asks if I mind if he goes with the girl and of course I say no worries because its the bro code. My best friend isn't a douche but he has told me he won't bother putting in with a girl like this because he can't see the relationship progressing past a one night stand or a f buddy until he gets bored or her.He is a very smart individual who needs to be entertained and intellectually stimulated. I can't really say I blame the guy, his words are, how can I respect someone who doesn't respect themselves? This has happened several times to the point where I won't catch up with him in a bar.
The point is that you as a person should have more self respect than throwing yourself at someone of the opposite sex merely for gratification. I've lost the chance or walked away from women before because I wasn't willing to be disrespected or sacrifice my dignity just to get some skirt but at the end of the day I can look myself in the mirror and be reasonably happy with who I am. The worst part is some guys I know have than taken the pilot seat and gone home with the girl but most of these guys also have underlying issues of insecurity.
I used to be a bouncer and girls would get drunk and hit on us all the time, they would have hit on Peewee Herman if he worked with us. One night this girl came in who was just everything I physically want in a girl, all the other guys I worked with couldn't understand why I was drooling but its one of those things where you can't explain it, the chemistry was there and there was something about her. We hit it off immediately, she was laughing, body language was good, I was half tempted to ask the boss for the night off. She told me she wanted to hang out after I finished my shift, my intention was to get to know her better and if things were good see where it led. Anyway to cut a long story short, she gets drunk, makes out with 3 different guys and a girl, some old guy was getting hot and heavy on the dance floor with her. She comes up at the end of the night and said, right lets go and I rolled my eyes and walked off, that type of behavior is not the most attractive thing to see especially when you are sober. The chances of her having STD's etc were probable based on what I saw in the few hours she was there, plus this was only the stuff I saw, I'm sure there was worse but I was running the security team for a club with a capacity of 600 people so I had to be everywhere at once.
A friend of mine told me that she watches guys dance and supposedly if they can move good than they are good in between the sheets so start practicing those pelvic thrusts fellas. As for sexy vs plain Jane, go for plain Jane, she is more than likely down to earth (a very underestimated quality) , she will enjoy it more, actually be grateful and trust me when the sexy one wakes up in the morning with make up all over your nice clean pillow, nine times out of ten you are going to realize that she is a plain Jane at best and nine times out of ten she will have an attitude. You are gonna wish you took the blue pill.0 -
Hrmmm... It does depend on his face as well.
And then, god forbid, he open his mouth...
lmao! oh man this was great..0 -
You are gonna wish you took the blue pill.
And further down the rabbit hole I will go.0 -
I dated an absolutely gorgeous, bulked up gentleman years ago. He was as nice as could be...
He drilled holes in doors into which the doorknobs were installed (by someone else).
Let us say it didn't last more than two weeks...0 -
Physically in a guy, I like slim muscular like Nichkhun's on the Coke Zero commercial. I don't even find Ryan Reynold's level of bulk attractive.0
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It depends on what the rest of him looks like & how he sounds when he opens his mouth. Hope you wanted honesty.0
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