Olive oil, how much is too much?

karin_02
karin_02 Posts: 7 Member
edited October 5 in Food and Nutrition
I'm pretty much in love with olive oil and was under the understanding that it was a 'good fat' and that you can pretty much have as much as you like. Until recently when I saw a cooking show and the guy said it was very fattening....
I know it's fat, but does it really cause weight gain if its the only fat your really eating? i know a table spoon has like 15g's of fat (overall I had 3tbls of it), but its all good for you!
I'm confused, the question is; should I cut down on my olive oil, or is it a good part of my diet?
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  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    Barring any medical conditions, if you are in a calorie deficit you will lose weight. If you are in a surplus you will gain. Have as much as you want. If you're hitting your numbers you're fine.
  • chuckyp
    chuckyp Posts: 693 Member
    It's good fat, but you still need to keep within your calorie allowance if you don't want to gain weight from it. Excess calories are excess calories.
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    As long as you count the calories thats all that matters.

    3 tbls has about 300 calories. If those fit in your diet then good.

    The actual fat content doesn't matter. As long as it fits your macros and/or your calories.
  • stevenleagle
    stevenleagle Posts: 293 Member
    I like olive oil too, the staple of a great meditaranean diet. The answer lies in what else you are eating: if you're keeping to goal cals and watching your overall nutrients then don't stress it: olive oil IS great for you. Having said that, it is an energy dense food so a little moderation is a good idea (as with most foods btw!)
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
    FYI it's really nothing special health wise if you cook with it. The health benefits are realized when it's eaten uncooked.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    1 gram of fat contains 9 calories. As long as you fit those calories into your weight loss and nutritional goals, there is no such thing as too much olive oil. It is good for you.
  • ShapeUpSidney
    ShapeUpSidney Posts: 1,092 Member
    FYI it's really nothing special health wise if you cook with it. The health benefits are realized when it's eaten uncooked.

    I'll add to that that it has to be stored properly and used quickly. Too many people buy in large quantities, store it over the oven, etc.

    It goes rancid, it loses it's "healthy" benefits, etc when not handled with care.
  • As long as you count the calories thats all that matters.

    3 tbls has about 300 calories. If those fit in your diet then good.

    The actual fat content doesn't matter. As long as it fits your macros and/or your calories.

    All the kinds I have ever used are 70 cal/tbls - that's only 210 for 3.
  • karin_02
    karin_02 Posts: 7 Member
    I use it for both cooking and dressing salads, maybe i should use less in cooking then.
  • sarapie
    sarapie Posts: 12 Member
    As long as you count the calories thats all that matters.

    3 tbls has about 300 calories. If those fit in your diet then good.

    The actual fat content doesn't matter. As long as it fits your macros and/or your calories.

    All the kinds I have ever used are 70 cal/tbls - that's only 210 for 3.

    What Olive oil are you using?? I've never found one under 120 calories per Tbsp
  • crzyone
    crzyone Posts: 872 Member
    My olive oil bottle said 120 calories for Tablespoon. I can eat my real Ranch dressing for the same calories!!
  • karin_02
    karin_02 Posts: 7 Member
    Olive oil tends to put me over my fat goal, but I stay under my calorie goal.... is that ok as its good fat? or still a weight loss no-no?
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    Olive oil tends to put me over my fat goal, but I stay under my calorie goal.... is that ok as its good fat? or still a weight loss no-no?

    Still fine.
    But watch that you're not consuming so much fat that you don't have room in the budget for protein.
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
    I use it for both cooking and dressing salads, maybe i should use less in cooking then.
    For cooking, you are better off using oils that can take higher temps. Stuff like safflower oil or avocado oil, for examples. Mostly you don't want to have your oil smoking from being too hot, that's not a good thing :drinker:
  • ShapeUpSidney
    ShapeUpSidney Posts: 1,092 Member
    My olive oil bottle said 120 calories for Tablespoon. I can eat my real Ranch dressing for the same calories!!

    yea, but olive oil is great for cardiovascular health, and the saturated fat in ranch dressing is not
  • Pangui
    Pangui Posts: 373 Member
    Olive oil is a healthy fat when it's in the form of an olive. Once you strip the olive of its fiber, nutrients (most) and cellular structure, all you are left with is the fat. Olive oil damages the endothelial cells that line your arteries. These cells protect our blood flow and prevent cholesterol and plaques from building up on the cell walls. I guess if you don't have heart disease and you don't mind consuming high quantities of empty calories, you may enjoy your oil in moderation.

    Once I quit adding oils to my food, I much prefered the natural flavor. I hate going to a restaurant and being served an oily dish.
  • ShapeUpSidney
    ShapeUpSidney Posts: 1,092 Member

    For cooking, you are better off using oils that can take higher temps. Stuff like safflower oil or avocado oil, for examples. Mostly you don't want to have your oil smoking from being too hot, that's not a good thing :drinker:

    nor is it good to have anything "carmelized" from what I've heard...and that includes crusty melted cheese :(
  • ShapeUpSidney
    ShapeUpSidney Posts: 1,092 Member
    Olive oil is a healthy fat when it's in the form of an olive. Once you strip the olive of its fiber, nutrients (most) and cellular structure, all you are left with is the fat. Olive oil damages the endothelial cells that line your arteries. These cells protect our blood flow and prevent cholesterol and plaques from building up on the cell walls. I guess if you don't have heart disease and you don't mind consuming high quantities of empty calories, you may enjoy your oil in moderation.

    Once I quit adding oils to my food, I much prefered the natural flavor. I hate going to a restaurant and being served an oily dish.

    Could you please post a histological study that confirms that olive oil damages the endothelial layer of blood vessels?
  • karin_02
    karin_02 Posts: 7 Member
    Olive oil is a healthy fat when it's in the form of an olive. Once you strip the olive of its fiber, nutrients (most) and cellular structure, all you are left with is the fat. Olive oil damages the endothelial cells that line your arteries. These cells protect our blood flow and prevent cholesterol and plaques from building up on the cell walls. I guess if you don't have heart disease and you don't mind consuming high quantities of empty calories, you may enjoy your oil in moderation.

    Once I quit adding oils to my food, I much prefered the natural flavor. I hate going to a restaurant and being served an oily dish.

    This is the first I have ever heard olive oil is UN-healthy! It's usually praised as a food of utter health, where did you learn it was bad for you?
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Olive oil is a healthy fat when it's in the form of an olive. Once you strip the olive of its fiber, nutrients (most) and cellular structure, all you are left with is the fat. Olive oil damages the endothelial cells that line your arteries. These cells protect our blood flow and prevent cholesterol and plaques from building up on the cell walls. I guess if you don't have heart disease and you don't mind consuming high quantities of empty calories, you may enjoy your oil in moderation.

    Once I quit adding oils to my food, I much prefered the natural flavor. I hate going to a restaurant and being served an oily dish.

    This is the first I have ever heard olive oil is UN-healthy! It's usually praised as a food of utter health, where did you learn it was bad for you?

    It is healthy. Please don't believe all the nonsense you read on these forums. If you are concerned ask your doctor, or check a reputable medical site (e.g. hospital, medical university, etc.)
  • Umm. Bertolli?

    I'm in Canada though? Or hey, I could have been reading the label wrong all this time, but I'm pretty sure I haven't since I remember looking at it and thinking "wow, same calories as Crisco.."
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
    Umm. Bertolli?

    I'm in Canada though? Or hey, I could have been reading the label wrong all this time, but I'm pretty sure I haven't since I remember looking at it and thinking "wow, same calories as Crisco.."
    All fat has the same calories per gram, pretty much. Butter has less but it also has water in it's composition.
  • Pangui
    Pangui Posts: 373 Member
    Olive oil is a healthy fat when it's in the form of an olive. Once you strip the olive of its fiber, nutrients (most) and cellular structure, all you are left with is the fat. Olive oil damages the endothelial cells that line your arteries. These cells protect our blood flow and prevent cholesterol and plaques from building up on the cell walls. I guess if you don't have heart disease and you don't mind consuming high quantities of empty calories, you may enjoy your oil in moderation.

    Once I quit adding oils to my food, I much prefered the natural flavor. I hate going to a restaurant and being served an oily dish.

    This is the first I have ever heard olive oil is UN-healthy! It's usually praised as a food of utter health, where did you learn it was bad for you?

    It is healthy. Please don't believe all the nonsense you read on these forums. If you are concerned ask your doctor, or check a reputable medical site (e.g. hospital, medical university, etc.)

    It is one thing to disagree based upon your own educated research, but it's another to label someone's comment as "nonsense".

    Dr Robert Vogel of the University of Maryland did a study on the effects of olive oil after consuming it. He found that it slowed the blood flow (referred to as FMD) by 31%. This results in damage to the endothelial cells and diminishes their capacity to produce nitric oxide. You may read the report at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11079642

    Similar results have been found in later studies.
  • ShapeUpSidney
    ShapeUpSidney Posts: 1,092 Member

    It is one thing to disagree based upon your own educated research, but it's another to label someone's comment as "nonsense".

    Dr Robert Vogel of the University of Maryland did a study on the effects of olive oil after consuming it. He found that it slowed the blood flow (referred to as FMD) by 31%. This results in damage to the endothelial cells and diminishes their capacity to produce nitric oxide. You may read the report at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11079642

    Similar results have been found in later studies.

    Dr Vogel has a LOT of publications that are very good, but when you research this article on pubmed, there are 6 other articles, all containing different opinions on the same issues. I didn't take the time to compare each study or prepare a meta-analysis, but I did notice that the study you reference only used 10 subjects...
  • marcbarghout
    marcbarghout Posts: 2 Member
    I use a spray bottle for salads and a doctoral student in nutrition told me it could be used for cooking (can be if you do not exceed 180 degree?)
  • ShapeUpSidney
    ShapeUpSidney Posts: 1,092 Member
    I'm not sure. When I looked it up, the smoke point of olive oil is much higher...like 320-460 (varies by how "light" it is).

    And that sounds like a healthy range, because chefs on tv frequently use olive oil on roasted veggies that are cooked in that range.

    Although 180C = 356F, so maybe we're both right ;)
  • marcbarghout
    marcbarghout Posts: 2 Member
    oh yeah I meant 180 °C, I am french :)
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Olive oil is a healthy fat when it's in the form of an olive. Once you strip the olive of its fiber, nutrients (most) and cellular structure, all you are left with is the fat. Olive oil damages the endothelial cells that line your arteries. These cells protect our blood flow and prevent cholesterol and plaques from building up on the cell walls. I guess if you don't have heart disease and you don't mind consuming high quantities of empty calories, you may enjoy your oil in moderation.

    Once I quit adding oils to my food, I much prefered the natural flavor. I hate going to a restaurant and being served an oily dish.

    This is the first I have ever heard olive oil is UN-healthy! It's usually praised as a food of utter health, where did you learn it was bad for you?

    It is healthy. Please don't believe all the nonsense you read on these forums. If you are concerned ask your doctor, or check a reputable medical site (e.g. hospital, medical university, etc.)

    It is one thing to disagree based upon your own educated research, but it's another to label someone's comment as "nonsense".

    Dr Robert Vogel of the University of Maryland did a study on the effects of olive oil after consuming it. He found that it slowed the blood flow (referred to as FMD) by 31%. This results in damage to the endothelial cells and diminishes their capacity to produce nitric oxide. You may read the report at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11079642

    Similar results have been found in later studies.

    Suggesting people dispel nonsense by checking out reputable scientific or medical sources is good advice, Otherwise you end up believing posts that offer one or two random studies to "prove" a point on a subject for which there are hundreds, maybe even thousands, of studies.
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
    Olive oil is good fat but it is still a fat. I don't think you should go overboard just because it's a better fat then others.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member

    It is one thing to disagree based upon your own educated research, but it's another to label someone's comment as "nonsense".

    Dr Robert Vogel of the University of Maryland did a study on the effects of olive oil after consuming it. He found that it slowed the blood flow (referred to as FMD) by 31%. This results in damage to the endothelial cells and diminishes their capacity to produce nitric oxide. You may read the report at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11079642

    Similar results have been found in later studies.

    Dr Vogel has a LOT of publications that are very good, but when you research this article on pubmed, there are 6 other articles, all containing different opinions on the same issues. I didn't take the time to compare each study or prepare a meta-analysis, but I did notice that the study you reference only used 10 subjects...
    Olive oil has been researched to death and I personally don't support the notion that because one oil has a thicker viscosity (saturation) is necessarily a bad thing in the big picture, there's just to many confounders. Obviously if canola was compared to fish oil for the same study it would have shown the canola to be less effective and impairs FMD more than fish oil and therefore more atherogenic and coconut oil being 92% saturated fat would be a killer basically. It looks like fat in general is the mediator. I would imagine the reason the canola oil showed those results was the fact that canola has 1/2 the saturated fat content and 10X more omega content than olive oil, making the oil in general less viscous.
    A high-oleic and linoleic acid meal has recently been shown to impair FMD in comparison with a low-fat meal
    Therefore you could draw the conclusion that all monounsaturated fat regardless of the source and omega 6 impair FMD and are atherogenic....interesting when you dissect it in this regard. Does it make sense, nope.

    Also the quality of olive oil and the phenolic content does influence outcomes. The platform that EVOO is less healthy than canola is not a good one to be preaching from. Putting this study in perspective in relation to diet is not considered, only the overall effect of fat on FMD. Hopefully we know that olive oil or any monounsaturated fat or omega's are healthy in regards to diet. imo
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