Tired of the myths--how do you get accurate info?
FrankWorsley
Posts: 106 Member
There is so much health advice out there these days. Browsing these forums gives ample evidence of the vast amount of ideas (there are some myths/bad information that just won't die) circulating. A lot of "experts" would like to sell you their book/dvd/etc. Some are clearly wrong while others seem to have some accurate information. I like the Mayo Clinic website because it appears to have some well-supported, solid recommendations: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/healthy-weight-pyramid/SA00103 What sources do you find reliable?
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Honestly, one of my best resources is just thinking back to the workouts I did on the track team in high school. Tried and true old school exercises like plyometrics, weight lifting and running! Speed drills, intervals, etc.
As far as nutrition. I am doing my best to stick to things with natural ingredients. Old fashioned is the way to go, except maybe for all the butter and lard they used to use when my Great Grandma was growing up...0 -
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Go to the gym and find the most Jacked,yoked, ripped,muscular, shredded, bro there and listen to everything he says because it works!0
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Go to the gym and find the most Jacked,yoked, ripped,muscular, shredded, bro there and listen to everything he says because it works!0
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I use scholarly peer reviewed academic journals. I have access to them since I am student but you can also pay to access them if you are not.0
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Go to the gym and find the most Jacked,yoked, ripped,muscular, shredded, bro there and listen to everything he says because it works!
umm....just caue he's jacked and yoked (huh) doesnt mean he did it the healthy way. ask how his d*ck has been treating him and then perhaps listen...or not.0 -
LOL! Yep, this ^^^^^
Who would you rather learn from? Skinny people trying to make a buck off of you or the true-blue people on here who have actually done what you are trying to do and don't stand to profit financially from helping you? Not hard to do that math. You don't have to re-invent the wheel with the info you get on here from those who have already done it.0 -
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Fat2Fit Radio. Google it. They have been the only thing that has given me real, accurate and myth busted information.0
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Great question.
Frankly, I listen to my weight loss doc--which is not an option for everyone, however, you could certainly start with a visit to the GP and ask for a referral to a nutritionist. The mayo clinic site it good too.
Here's what I don't do, and which you seem to have caught a clue about: I don't ask for or listen to nutritional advice from other folks who aren't experts in nutrition and/or whose advice is in direct conflict with something my doctor told me or which I know to be nutritionally unsound
I also don't give specific advice on nutrition because...I'm not an expert and don't know the nuances of any one individual's needs. Knowing what's right for me is not knowing what is right for someone else so I keep that in mind when talking about nutrition!0 -
+1 for Alan Aragon.0 -
Go to the gym and find the most Jacked,yoked, ripped,muscular, shredded, bro there and listen to everything he says because it works!0
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Go to the gym and find the most Jacked,yoked, ripped,muscular, shredded, bro there and listen to everything he says because it works!
Brofessor Scott never lies.0 -
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These are excellent sources0 -
One thing to keep in mind is that people's bodies are different and what works for one person may not work for someone else. My daughter is very thin and muscular and doesn't eat meat but I find when I eat a lot of protein from meat and cut back on the carbs that I lose weight fast. However I am 30 years older, have had two kids and have been overweight. She has always been thin and fit.
Some people are dairy intolerant, gluten intolerant which can lead to weight gain and/or other problems but a lot of conventional research shows that low fat dairy and whole grains help with weight loss.
I think there are many basic guidelines that work well, but you also have to experiment a bit and see what works for you.0 -
The Mayo Clinic is one of my favorite sources too. But my very favorite is the Harvard School of Public Health.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/pyramid/0 -
Trial and error. Give what you believe in a chance and if it fails, never turn back.0
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LOL! Yep, this ^^^^^
Who would you rather learn from? Skinny people trying to make a buck off of you or the true-blue people on here who have actually done what you are trying to do and don't stand to profit financially from helping you? Not hard to do that math. You don't have to re-invent the wheel with the info you get on here from those who have already done it.
+1 to this... I see some people saying they seek the advice of skinny people on how to lose weight. In what universe does that make sense? LOL Trying asking the dude who lost 100 lb, it's not to say he has everything right but he found something that worked for him. Might work for you too.
I also agree with the poster who mentioned trial and error. Personally I've conducted an experiment on myself for the last 8 months or so tracking my intake and exercise, even stool type to try to determine what works for me. I started with a typical high carb low fat diet, tried that for 6 weeks then moved onto a low carb low fat, then low carb high fat and so on. I tried ketogenic for a few weeks, intermittent fasting also. You don't have to be quite as crazy as I have been but simply record your progress, food etc. and see what works.0 -
Great question.
Frankly, I listen to my weight loss doc--which is not an option for everyone, however, you could certainly start with a visit to the GP and ask for a referral to a nutritionist. The mayo clinic site it good too.
Here's what I don't do, and which you seem to have caught a clue about: I don't ask for or listen to nutritional advice from other folks who aren't experts in nutrition and/or whose advice is in direct conflict with something my doctor told me or which I know to be nutritionally unsound
I also don't give specific advice on nutrition because...I'm not an expert and don't know the nuances of any one individual's needs. Knowing what's right for me is not knowing what is right for someone else so I keep that in mind when talking about nutrition!
I agree with some of your points but I don't share your faith in nutritionists and doctors. By all means have your doctor review your blood work etc. but many doctors don't know squat about nutrition. Nutritionists yes, a little better, but I've found plenty who are mired in dogma and just don't read the research. I've seen it mentioned that it can take 10 years for clinical research to reach doctors in the field and actually be applied, I'm not blaming them for being behind, but I also am extremely skeptical of relying on someone just because they have a few credentials.0 -
I see some people saying they seek the advice of skinny people on how to lose weight. In what universe does that make sense? LOL
I saw a quote on here once that said "if you want to be thin, live like a thin person" (or something close to that). But if you've always been overweight you may not know how to live like a thin person. In which case, asking a thin person how they stay thin makes as much sense as asking another fat person how they lost weight. There is an equal chance that either answer will (or will not) work for you.0 -
I see some people saying they seek the advice of skinny people on how to lose weight. In what universe does that make sense? LOL
Using that sort of thinking...I should ask the next skinny crack addict how they lost weight and manage to keep it off? :laugh:0 -
I see some people saying they seek the advice of skinny people on how to lose weight. In what universe does that make sense? LOL
Using that sort of thinking...I should ask the next skinny crack addict how they lost weight and manage to keep it off? :laugh:
Would it make more sense if they were fat before they used crack to lose weight?0 -
Honestly, one of my best resources is just thinking back to the workouts I did on the track team in high school. Tried and true old school exercises like plyometrics, weight lifting and running! Speed drills, intervals, etc.
As far as nutrition. I am doing my best to stick to things with natural ingredients. Old fashioned is the way to go, except maybe for all the butter and lard they used to use when my Great Grandma was growing up...
mmm....butter....0 -
if i have to buy all your books/newsletters/dvds for the secret or your some super forum yahoo i dont listen. I agree with the previous posts:find someone that looks like you want to and ask how they got there.0
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Great question.
Frankly, I listen to my weight loss doc--which is not an option for everyone, however, you could certainly start with a visit to the GP and ask for a referral to a nutritionist. The mayo clinic site it good too.
Here's what I don't do, and which you seem to have caught a clue about: I don't ask for or listen to nutritional advice from other folks who aren't experts in nutrition and/or whose advice is in direct conflict with something my doctor told me or which I know to be nutritionally unsound
I also don't give specific advice on nutrition because...I'm not an expert and don't know the nuances of any one individual's needs. Knowing what's right for me is not knowing what is right for someone else so I keep that in mind when talking about nutrition!
I agree with some of your points but I don't share your faith in nutritionists and doctors. By all means have your doctor review your blood work etc. but many doctors don't know squat about nutrition. Nutritionists yes, a little better, but I've found plenty who are mired in dogma and just don't read the research. I've seen it mentioned that it can take 10 years for clinical research to reach doctors in the field and actually be applied, I'm not blaming them for being behind, but I also am extremely skeptical of relying on someone just because they have a few credentials.
Yes, this! My weight loss doc is a great surgeon, but when it comes to the nutritional aspect - not so much. When i hit a plateau a few months back and we reviewed what i was doing, he advised me to cut my calories to 800 a day. When i reminded him how much i work out, and told him i'd pass out eating that little, he told me to work out less. In what world does it make sense to work out less in order to be able to eat less? Not mine.0
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