Firearms in your home??
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My boyfriend and I have a total of 3 handguns, 1 shotgun and 3 rifles (mine is a Rueger, he owns two AR-15's). I have never felt SAFER, honestly. We have a big ole' safe that we loaded into our walk-in closet and it is always locked unless one of us is getting a firearm out. Now, I wouldn't feel this way if we were not CONSTANTLY practicing good firearm etiquette. We ALWAYS make sure that our guns are unloaded before walking around the apartment with them. We do not "dry fire" or point our weapons at anyone or anything. You just have to be smart with your tools and it will be fine.
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A gun in the home that is unloaded, trigger-guarded and dismantled should just be given away. Keep big rocks in your house if you need protection - because that's all that gun is good for.
I don't know why you would be afraid of a gun in the home - loaded or not (UNLESS you have children). That's like being afraid of your gas stove or truck in the garage. In the wrong hands, untrained, uninformed and used improperly - those 2 things will kill just as fast.
My husband and I both have CCW's. We are NRA instructors - Eddie Eagle gun safe program for kids, RTBAV for non-firearem protection, and basic pistol. Informed, trained, knowledgeable people do not shoot others by "accident". Guns don't go off by themselves. They go off when people who are using them improperly fire them.
As to women who refuse to let guns in their homes because of children: I would NEVER, EVER, E V E R allow my child to be in your home or play with your children. Why? Because MY children would be trained and know what to do if and when they find a firearm. They stop - don't touch - leave the area - tell an adult. You children will want to pick them up and play with them and kill my child. Statistics show that cops' kids don't kill their playmates - but children of gun-a-phobics do. They're drawn to the gun like a moth to a flame. What you can't have - you want.
Finally - I was car jacked by 2 men several years ago. They went free - WITH my car. 2 weeks later, the 1 guy jacked an old man's car at the 7-11 and beat him nearly to death. Lucky I was alive - HOWEVER, if I'd have been carrying that night, those 2 fine young men would be #123456 and #56789 and residents of San Quentin, instead of running the streets jacking and killing more defenseless people.
If you don't want a gun, that's fine, but PLEASE, get a grip on you fear that a gun will jump off the shelf and shoot you. It won't. I promise. Oh - and one more statistic: women make the best and safest shooters. They listen, they pay attention and they obey the rules. It's the men who think they know what they're doing (and often times don't) who have more incidents.0 -
That comment - about having it and freezing up - is a WELL known occurrence. We train students to drill-drill-drill. Practice, be aware, think of situations ahead of time. If you do it 5-6 times a month - it's muscle memory. Before I owned a gun, I lived in a condo and got a call from my neighbor who came home and found a man in her condo - hiding under the bed. I broke out in a cold sweat and literally couldn't move from my bed. I was terrified that he'd come out of her place and run to mine. Dogs? Alarms? Telephone 911? Sure - all great untl you're face to face with a live person in your home (and I did come home and interrupted an in-home robbery). Trying to get out of bed, find the gun on that shelf, the ammunition on another shelf, and marry the two together will be the longest 2 minutes of your life. Hopefully it won't be the LAST 2 minutes of your life.0
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OH HEELLLLLLLLLLLL NO!!!!!!!!
I am SO THANKFUL and GRATEFUL that gun laws are more strict here (in Canada) than in the states. The stats speak for themselves... the more guns, the more gun accidents/injuries/deaths.
Sure, I could get trained and knowledgable about proper handling and keep it locked up but I'd rather not have to bother with all those extra precautions, I would REFUSE to have guns - any type of gun - in or near my house. All it takes is one person figuring out where the keys are, or someone accidentally forgetting to lock it up properly, for something to go terribly wrong or for the gun to be used for the wrong purpose (read: suicide or killing people!! seriously). Not to mention - yes in SOME cases guns can be used maybe to save a life in a B&E situation, however.... from my understanding, most of the time its a friend or family member mistaken for an intruder that gets shot.
To repeat my previous statement oh HELLL NO0 -
OH HEELLLLLLLLLLLL NO!!!!!!!!
I am SO THANKFUL and GRATEFUL that gun laws are more strict here (in Canada) than in the states. The stats speak for themselves... the more guns, the more gun accidents/injuries/deaths.
Sure, I could get trained and knowledgable about proper handling and keep it locked up but I'd rather not have to bother with all those extra precautions, I would REFUSE to have guns - any type of gun - in or near my house. All it takes is one person figuring out where the keys are, or someone accidentally forgetting to lock it up properly, for something to go terribly wrong or for the gun to be used for the wrong purpose (read: suicide or killing people!! seriously). Not to mention - yes in SOME cases guns can be used maybe to save a life in a B&E situation, however.... from my understanding, most of the time its a friend or family member mistaken for an intruder that gets shot.
To repeat my previous statement oh HELLL NO
I'm sorry your country doesn't allow you the simple freedom of owning a weapon. Best to keep them out of the hands of irresponsible people.0 -
ok everyone saying the same thing really and I get it. I do. But why guns? If you want protection why not learn a martial art? Kids can't take that from you and use it wrongly. Knowing that you don't have to worry about locks and ammo, etc... You will always be prepared, don't you think?0
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OH HEELLLLLLLLLLLL NO!!!!!!!!
I am SO THANKFUL and GRATEFUL that gun laws are more strict here (in Canada) than in the states. The stats speak for themselves... the more guns, the more gun accidents/injuries/deaths.
Sure, I could get trained and knowledgable about proper handling and keep it locked up but I'd rather not have to bother with all those extra precautions, I would REFUSE to have guns - any type of gun - in or near my house. All it takes is one person figuring out where the keys are, or someone accidentally forgetting to lock it up properly, for something to go terribly wrong or for the gun to be used for the wrong purpose (read: suicide or killing people!! seriously). Not to mention - yes in SOME cases guns can be used maybe to save a life in a B&E situation, however.... from my understanding, most of the time its a friend or family member mistaken for an intruder that gets shot.
To repeat my previous statement oh HELLL NO
I'm sorry your country doesn't allow you the simple freedom of owning a weapon. Best to keep them out of the hands of irresponsible people.
No need to feel sorry... It's one of the things I love about my country 0 -
You probably already have knives, a baseball bat, heck, even a frying pan at your house, and these are all things that can be used as weapons. A gun really isn't a whole lot different. With proper training, handling and stowage, it is a great thing to have around the house. I'm a big believer in "Guns don't kill people; people kill people".0
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double post!0
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OH HEELLLLLLLLLLLL NO!!!!!!!!
I am SO THANKFUL and GRATEFUL that gun laws are more strict here (in Canada) than in the states. The stats speak for themselves... the more guns, the more gun accidents/injuries/deaths.
Sure, I could get trained and knowledgable about proper handling and keep it locked up but I'd rather not have to bother with all those extra precautions, I would REFUSE to have guns - any type of gun - in or near my house. All it takes is one person figuring out where the keys are, or someone accidentally forgetting to lock it up properly, for something to go terribly wrong or for the gun to be used for the wrong purpose (read: suicide or killing people!! seriously). Not to mention - yes in SOME cases guns can be used maybe to save a life in a B&E situation, however.... from my understanding, most of the time its a friend or family member mistaken for an intruder that gets shot.
To repeat my previous statement oh HELLL NO
I'm sorry your country doesn't allow you the simple freedom of owning a weapon. Best to keep them out of the hands of irresponsible people.
No need to feel sorry... It's one of the things I love about my country
A responsible, law-abiding citizen never shot anyone outside of self-defense.0 -
OH HEELLLLLLLLLLLL NO!!!!!!!!
I am SO THANKFUL and GRATEFUL that gun laws are more strict here (in Canada) than in the states. The stats speak for themselves... the more guns, the more gun accidents/injuries/deaths.
Sure, I could get trained and knowledgable about proper handling and keep it locked up but I'd rather not have to bother with all those extra precautions, I would REFUSE to have guns - any type of gun - in or near my house. All it takes is one person figuring out where the keys are, or someone accidentally forgetting to lock it up properly, for something to go terribly wrong or for the gun to be used for the wrong purpose (read: suicide or killing people!! seriously). Not to mention - yes in SOME cases guns can be used maybe to save a life in a B&E situation, however.... from my understanding, most of the time its a friend or family member mistaken for an intruder that gets shot.
To repeat my previous statement oh HELLL NO
I'm sorry your country doesn't allow you the simple freedom of owning a weapon. Best to keep them out of the hands of irresponsible people.
No need to feel sorry... It's one of the things I love about my country
A responsible, law-abiding citizen never shot anyone.
So people who act in self defense aren't law abiding citizens? :huh:0 -
So people who act in self defense aren't law abiding citizens? :huh:
I made the change while you were typing.0 -
So people who act in self defense aren't law abiding citizens? :huh:
I made the change while you were typing, but way to nit-pick.
How is that nit-picking? And you're right now that you changed your comment.0 -
So people who act in self defense aren't law abiding citizens? ;huh:
I made the change while you were typing.
How is that nit-picking? And you're right now that you changed your comment.
The nature of your statement came across sarcastic. I changed my response to you.0 -
A responsible, law-abiding citizen never shot anyone.
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No, but where is the guarantee that everyone who owns a gun is a responsible law abiding citizen?
FACT:
Fewer guns = fewer incidents of gun violence. this is an old stat but in Canada in the year 2000, the firearm homicide rate per 100,000 people was 0.54. In the states, it was 2.97!! Coincidence? I think not... (and no, Canadians were not just killing each other with other objects like knives and cars... the overall per capita homicide rate in canada was 1.58 compared to 4.55 in the states). (source The Seventh United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (1998 - 2000)". United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC). http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/seventh_survey/7sc.pdf.)0 -
I am very pro gun. I have multiple firearms in my possession. I never walk out of my home without my 38 or 45 on my person, and I keep a 9 in my purse. Not to mention the one in my truck in which I can reach easily. I am scared of nothing, or nobody. My opinion is, If I cant protect myself, I'm not American. I know there are those who seem to think that pepper spray, and stun guns are the answer, but refuse to take chances with chemicals and things that shoot electricity.
My opinion is, if you know how to handle a gun, you are better off in life. If you are scared of a gun, then you might as well be scared of everything else in life.
I have carried since I was old enough in the state of Texas to carry. I became an advocate to carry after I was assulted in a bank lobby. I won't be assulted again, and yes, I pulled my gun on him. Did I go to jail? No, I was protecting myself. It is a law we have here. We have the right to protect ourselves and our property. So that is what I choose to do.
You have the right to not have them in your home. However, with the crime increasing in the "high end" neighborhoods, I refuse to not protect my home.0 -
OH HEELLLLLLLLLLLL NO!!!!!!!!
I am SO THANKFUL and GRATEFUL that gun laws are more strict here (in Canada) than in the states. The stats speak for themselves... the more guns, the more gun accidents/injuries/deaths.
Sure, I could get trained and knowledgable about proper handling and keep it locked up but I'd rather not have to bother with all those extra precautions, I would REFUSE to have guns - any type of gun - in or near my house. All it takes is one person figuring out where the keys are, or someone accidentally forgetting to lock it up properly, for something to go terribly wrong or for the gun to be used for the wrong purpose (read: suicide or killing people!! seriously). Not to mention - yes in SOME cases guns can be used maybe to save a life in a B&E situation, however.... from my understanding, most of the time its a friend or family member mistaken for an intruder that gets shot.
To repeat my previous statement oh HELLL NO
I'm sorry your country doesn't allow you the simple freedom of owning a weapon. Best to keep them out of the hands of irresponsible people.
No need to feel sorry... It's one of the things I love about my country
A responsible, law-abiding citizen never shot anyone.
So people who act in self defense aren't law abiding citizens? :huh:
I have multiple firearms in my vehicle and in my home. I've never shot anyone accidently. I think that is just a cop out for people who are scared to own a firearm.0 -
No, but where is the guarantee that everyone who owns a gun is a responsible law abiding citizen?
FACT:
Fewer guns = fewer incidents of gun violence. this is an old stat but in Canada in the year 2000, the firearm homicide rate per 100,000 people was 0.54. In the states, it was 2.97!! Coincidence? I think not... (and no, Canadians were not just killing each other with other objects like knives and cars... the overall per capita homicide rate in canada was 1.58 compared to 4.55 in the states). (source The Seventh United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (1998 - 2000)". United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC). http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/seventh_survey/7sc.pdf.)
Your country bans the responsible citizen from owning a gun for self-defense, yet does not "guarantee" YOU won't be killed by one (according to your stats).0 -
I have a Glock 19 and I love it.. times like these... I think its good to have a gun... well where I live anyway.. I mean if you love him that much you guys will work it out... meet in the middle. Guns do not kill ppl, ppl kill ppl. hope you guys do work it out 0
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ok everyone saying the same thing really and I get it. I do. But why guns? If you want protection why not learn a martial art? Kids can't take that from you and use it wrongly. Knowing that you don't have to worry about locks and ammo, etc... You will always be prepared, don't you think?
I think not. I learned martial arts myself, but until you have worked in an environment with people drugged out of their mind and intoxicated, there's no amount of martial arts that is going to save your *kitten* against those people. Not to mention, if someone assults me, walks into my home, or attempts to car jack my vehicle; Im not going to say "stop or I'm going to attempt to kick your *kitten*", oh no, I'm gonna put another whole in them.
You shoot to injure, you don't have to shoot to kill.0 -
Appreciating the advice. He is not just looking to have the guns but also in getting a license to conceal them. He has nothing to shoot at. We live in the city. We don't even have a large yard to shoot cans at. I want him to have his grandpa's guns cuz I know how much they mean, but why ammo and a license to carry? I just don't get it I guess.
Guns serve a very real purpose - they cannot do you any good locked away disassembled without ammo... It sounds as if you BF has intention of getting properly trained to carry the weapon responsibly and that is a good thing. I live in a city too and we own over 20 guns (handguns, rifles, shotguns) - we have guns for protection and sport. We also have 2 children who have learned and continue to learn the skills related to gun handling and marksmanship. Safety is a top priority - the kids have even been known to correct grandpa on his weapon handling (always double check the weapon yourself, never trust someone else telling you it's unloaded)... Shooting is done at a range here in town or we drive to appropriate place outside of town. Everyone in my family carries and no one has ever had the occasion to have to use their weapon, but there is nothing wrong with being educated and prepared.
Ya'll dont have a gun range around there. Heck, My dad lives in Miami, Fl and they have a gun range.0 -
Unarmed person = VICTIM0
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ok everyone saying the same thing really and I get it. I do. But why guns? If you want protection why not learn a martial art? Kids can't take that from you and use it wrongly. Knowing that you don't have to worry about locks and ammo, etc... You will always be prepared, don't you think?
You shoot to injure, you don't have to shoot to kill.
Correction... you shoot to stop the threat. If you injure or kill becomes irrelevant. Just hope it never has to happen.0 -
ok everyone saying the same thing really and I get it. I do. But why guns? If you want protection why not learn a martial art? Kids can't take that from you and use it wrongly. Knowing that you don't have to worry about locks and ammo, etc... You will always be prepared, don't you think?
You shoot to injure, you don't have to shoot to kill.
Correction... you shoot to stop the threat. If you injure or kill becomes irrelevant. Just hope it never has to happen.
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I have several weapons but my best friend is a Glock .40. I am a police officer and I think everyone should have, at the least, home protection.0
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No, but where is the guarantee that everyone who owns a gun is a responsible law abiding citizen?
FACT:
Fewer guns = fewer incidents of gun violence. this is an old stat but in Canada in the year 2000, the firearm homicide rate per 100,000 people was 0.54. In the states, it was 2.97!! Coincidence? I think not... (and no, Canadians were not just killing each other with other objects like knives and cars... the overall per capita homicide rate in canada was 1.58 compared to 4.55 in the states). (source The Seventh United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (1998 - 2000)". United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC). http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/seventh_survey/7sc.pdf.)
Your country bans the responsible citizen from owning a gun for self-defense, yet does not "guarantee" YOU won't be killed by one (according to your stats).
I'll admit it doesn't *guarantee* anything, but the chances of that happening here are significantly lower than they are there.0 -
I have never touched a gun and have only ever seen them in cops' holsters. This whole thread is strange to me.0
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We have several. One loaded pistol in our bedroom as we live in a very remote part of town with alot of wild life. Not unusual to hear of a bear breaking down a patio door to get at a jar of peanut butter someone left on the counter. I have never been a proponent of fire arms in the home, did not grow up with it, but we have a gun safe and keep all our collectibles as well as the hunting rifles, etc unloaded and locked up. the ammo is kept separately from the guns, also locked up. We have no children or grand children so I would have to think twice if there were young ones in our home. Take gun classes, respect the firearm, store it safely. Maybe you can come to terms and meet a happy medium.0
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This country was built on the back of fire arms. What I suggest is that you take a course on safe firearms and how to shoot everthing He is bringing into the home. Make sure you have a 21st century safe that can be opened with a fingerprint scan. I say yes but safety must come first so get yourselfs safe first. Get yourselfs trained first.0
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ok everyone saying the same thing really and I get it. I do. But why guns? If you want protection why not learn a martial art? Kids can't take that from you and use it wrongly. Knowing that you don't have to worry about locks and ammo, etc... You will always be prepared, don't you think?
Having a variety of options will always be the best bet; from just running away, to hand-to-hand combat, on up to taking lethal force.
The "why a gun" issue becomes obvious when you don't know if the bad guy is armed with a knife, gun, pepper spray, or other means to incapacitate, injure, or kill you. I refuse to let the bad guy decide my fate. So I'll prepare myself with the highest form of self-defense I have available (again, hoping I NEVER have to resort to it). I'd rather hide under my bed while the guy ransacks my house. My stuff can be replaced, but once my life, or my family's life is in danger, then things change really fast!0
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