Meat eaters nicer than vegans?
Dave198lbs
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side note- my Mom is a vegan and has been her entire life. Her Mom (my Grandma) was also a vegan. They grew up on a small farm with chickens, pigs and cows. Grandpa and my uncles were alll meat eaters. The only way you would know my Mom was a vegan would be if someone told you. She doesnt talk about it, she doesnt attack meat eaters, and growing up she cooked meat and gave us kids dairy, etc.
Seems the majority of vegans who post on meat/dairy related threads feel the need to attack and defend their choices with more anger than is warranted. (note- I did not say all vegans...I said most of the vegans who post on meat/dairy threads)
why is that? I dont see meat eaters getting all bent out of shape by the vegan choices.
chill out vegans!
Seems the majority of vegans who post on meat/dairy related threads feel the need to attack and defend their choices with more anger than is warranted. (note- I did not say all vegans...I said most of the vegans who post on meat/dairy threads)
why is that? I dont see meat eaters getting all bent out of shape by the vegan choices.
chill out vegans!
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Maybe they're just hungry...0
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side note- my Mom is a vegan and has been her entire life. Her Mom (my Grandma) was also a vegan. They grew up on a small farm with chickens, pigs and cows. Grandpa and my uncles were alll meat eaters. The only way you would know my Mom was a vegan would be if someone told you. She doesnt talk about it, she doesnt attack meat eaters, and growing up she cooked meat and gave us kids dairy, etc.
Seems the majority of vegans who post on meat/dairy related threads feel the need to attack and defend their choices with more anger than is warranted. (note- I did not say all vegans...I said most of the vegans who post on meat/dairy threads)
why is that? I dont see meat eaters getting all bent out of shape by the vegan choices.
chill out vegans!0 -
I guess they are passionate about the animal rights cause. I know a few vegans that are vegan because of religion ( seventh day Adventist). Mostly it's the animal rights activists that are stuck up. To each his own0
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I shall get angry at dairy eaters through jealousy lol
I desperately want to eat CHEEESE and milk and chocolate and eggs mmmmm eggs!!
But I cant until my daughter is weaned....
I know that this isnt entirely relevent... BUT.... I dont care... I MISS DAIRY!!!
PS. each to their own0 -
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Maybe they're just hungry...
maybe they just need some protein and fat!0 -
Human! They just want to make themselves feel superior about their choices.0
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Do you think that perhaps its because you only see the pushy vegans...the ones that are not pushy about their eating habits just wont be noticed.
If you go on a vegetarian or vegan post you will meet pushy meat eaters...horses for courses, good and bad in all walks of life. Do NOT make sweeping generalisations, they dont go down well.0 -
I shall get angry at dairy eaters through jealousy lol
I desperately want to eat CHEEESE and milk and chocolate and eggs mmmmm eggs!!
But I cant until my daughter is weaned....
I know that this isnt entirely relevent... BUT.... I dont care... I MISS DAIRY!!!
PS. each to their own
May I ask why you're abstaining from dairy?0 -
I think it's because vegan is a choice that is harder to make than the status quo of being an omnivore. Most people did not really "chose" to eat meat, but many people probably made the choice to be vegan so when people say things about veganism they probably will get more defensive because it is like the mission statement of the group they belong in. If you brought up another topic not related to veganism/meat you will get a different group of people on the defensive. So I don't think meat eaters are "nicer" than vegans I just think that's not a topic that gets them worked up.0
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Do you think that perhaps its because you only see the pushy vegans...the ones that are not pushy about their eating habits just wont be noticed.
If you go on a vegetarian or vegan post you will meet pushy meat eaters...horses for courses, good and bad in all walks of life. Do NOT make sweeping generalisations, they dont go down well.
I limited it to those who post....nothing was "sweeping"0 -
i haven't ever noticed a difference... i know lots of vegans and carnivores... all are grumpy/ornery or happy/friendly just the same...given what's going on in their individual lives.0
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This has not been my experience with vegans.
ETA: I've also known plenty of *kitten* meat eaters. So, there you go.0 -
Maybe they chose to go vegan for morals reasons so it's something they feel very strongly about, hence the passion.0
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I shall get angry at dairy eaters through jealousy lol
I desperately want to eat CHEEESE and milk and chocolate and eggs mmmmm eggs!!
But I cant until my daughter is weaned....
I know that this isnt entirely relevent... BUT.... I dont care... I MISS DAIRY!!!
PS. each to their own
May I ask why you're abstaining from dairy?
My daughter has an itolerance to animal protiens found in dairy... so all the while shes being breast fed, I need to stick to soya and other non dairy sources for nutrion! It sucks because im a HUGE dairy fan!! But its not worth it to see her suffer with a poorly tummy0 -
Actually, there's a perfectly reasonable answer. Meat tastes yummy. Yummy things make humans happy. I eat meat. Therefore, I'm happy which in turn makes me nice.
On the days I don't eat meat, every hour on the hour, I'm not so nice. Hence my pockets of crankiness some days.
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Just seemed appropriate. :laugh:
Personally I think flat out attacking any style of eating shows a serious ignorance of the human body and health and nutrition. There is no one right way to eat or wrong way to eat. While the majority of people are perfectly normal, it's the wackos from all side you have to watch out for, and then patently ignore. Some Vegans feel superior and have to insist that meat eaters are horrible unhealthy human beings, some meat eaters say the same things about vegans. And don't even get me started on the "Low Carb Taliban."
Personally I eat all foods. Sometimes I eat low carb meals, some times I eat high carb meals, sometimes I eat vegan or vegetarian, sometimes it's all meat. To me it's all a part of being balanced in my approach to health, and getting all the nutrition I need.0 -
Do you think that perhaps its because you only see the pushy vegans...the ones that are not pushy about their eating habits just wont be noticed.
If you go on a vegetarian or vegan post you will meet pushy meat eaters...horses for courses, good and bad in all walks of life. Do NOT make sweeping generalisations, they dont go down well.
to be fair he did add a note clearly stating NOT ALL VEGANS!!0 -
This has not been my experience with vegans.
ETA: I've also known plenty of *kitten* meat eaters. So, there you go.
*kitten* meat eaters? YUCK!0 -
LOL
My side note: I'm vegetarian, almost vegan. My hubby is a meat eater. I don't hound him, I do try to educate him, but I by no means make him switch. I even cook his meals, though I did cry the last time I had to make his hamburger patties out of the ground beef! LMAO He didn't see me though. I try to educate, but I don't condemn or judge. It's a personal choice. If people ask me questions and want to learn about it, by all means I'll talk about it, but I never push the subject. Also, I'm not one of those psychos who would throw paint on fur or get in someones face at a restaurant if they are eating a steak!
I personally have never encountered a mean vegan. lol Not even on here, yet. I know they exist but for the most part everyone I have met is very nice, compassionate, and not "vegan or die". I think the people who tend to be angry, over the top are the ones who are also the type who feel "my way is the only way", probably in everything they do, not just the way they eat. So in answer to your question, I have no idea! :laugh: But on the flip side, when I get into conversations with meat eaters, they tend to gang up on me. My brother in law is always saying "why do you have to be so stubborn, just eat meat already". And I just smile and nod and mentally give him a big ol' F you. So meat eaters, and saying the same as you, not ALL meat eaters can be mean to vegans and vegetarians. I have had a lot of things said to me that are horrible. But I grin and bear it. I guess it's not really what the people eat that make them mean, but just that they are mean people to begin with.0 -
I really understand why people would want all animals to be treated ethically. But philosophically, plants are alive as well. Just because we don't understand the nature of a plants life doesn't make it anymore or less valuable than an animal in my eyes. But no one seems to think that eating corn on the cob is murder. So I say I'm gonna eat meat. And when that meat exits my body, it can be used to fertilize plants, which can feed the animals, so I can have another steak. It's the circle of life.0
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This has not been my experience with vegans.
ETA: I've also known plenty of *kitten* meat eaters. So, there you go.
As a side note, I always thought that chicken gizzards looked like lips and buttholes.0 -
Some pushy vegans give the rest of them a bad rep. As you know, they are all not like that.
I am friends with a vegan who is pretty awesome, she even applauds me when I eat chili cheese dogs.0 -
I am friends with a vegan who is pretty awesome, she even applauds me when I eat chili cheese dogs.0
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Getting a good seat. Fireworks will ensue.0 -
I read once that vegans have special powers.
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I have a problem with anyone who pushes their choices on other people. Having said that, I have not experienced that on this site by any vegans, vegetarians, pescatarians or omnivores. Not with regards to diet, anyway.0
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side note- my Mom is a vegan and has been her entire life. Her Mom (my Grandma) was also a vegan. They grew up on a small farm with chickens, pigs and cows. Grandpa and my uncles were alll meat eaters. The only way you would know my Mom was a vegan would be if someone told you. She doesnt talk about it, she doesnt attack meat eaters, and growing up she cooked meat and gave us kids dairy, etc.
Seems the majority of vegans who post on meat/dairy related threads feel the need to attack and defend their choices with more anger than is warranted. (note- I did not say all vegans...I said most of the vegans who post on meat/dairy threads)
why is that? I dont see meat eaters getting all bent out of shape by the vegan choices.
chill out vegans!
i don't get it either. obviously, I'd be happier if all the animals i eat grazed the earth but not a lot i could do about that except move to a farm .. but i'm a city girl, that won't happen!0 -
I guess they are passionate about the animal rights cause. I know a few vegans that are vegan because of religion ( seventh day Adventist). Mostly it's the animal rights activists that are stuck up. To each his own
Seventh Day Adventists are not vegan. They eat low fat dairy products such as milk, yogurt and cheeses and eggs.0
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