Moderation my *kitten*!
Shanna_Inc86
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Ok I can't count how many times I've seen people post questions about whether they should have that burger they're craving or pie or whatever and so many answers of "everything in moderation"
See, now that's a problem for this chic! Moderation when it comes to yummy baked goods, pies, sweets, most anything covered in dark chocolate...I'm like an addict. Something in my brain is triggered and I go nuts and don't know when to stop....hence why I gained weight in the first place lol
Put some good wine, good cheese, good dark chocolate or some delicious hummus & pita bread nom nom nom
I don't know when to stop! OH and as I found out at Thanksgiving...any homemade berry pie...done for. I'll eat the WHOLE DARN THING w/o blinking an eye!
I know I'm can't be alone in this lol least I hope not. But there are certain foods I absolutely CANNOT have b/c I can't have just ONE bite or ONE piece or ONE nibble....I want the whole thing and I'll stab you with my fork if you try and pry it from my fingers :laugh:
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Cheers to the Holidays Folks
See, now that's a problem for this chic! Moderation when it comes to yummy baked goods, pies, sweets, most anything covered in dark chocolate...I'm like an addict. Something in my brain is triggered and I go nuts and don't know when to stop....hence why I gained weight in the first place lol
Put some good wine, good cheese, good dark chocolate or some delicious hummus & pita bread nom nom nom
I don't know when to stop! OH and as I found out at Thanksgiving...any homemade berry pie...done for. I'll eat the WHOLE DARN THING w/o blinking an eye!
I know I'm can't be alone in this lol least I hope not. But there are certain foods I absolutely CANNOT have b/c I can't have just ONE bite or ONE piece or ONE nibble....I want the whole thing and I'll stab you with my fork if you try and pry it from my fingers :laugh:
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Cheers to the Holidays Folks
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Something in my brain is triggered and I go nuts and don't know when to stop....
Dopamine?
I think for the majority of people the "everything in moderation" method really is the best way. It allows for flexibility, helps deal with the psychological stress of being in a state of deprivation, helps with cravings and so on.
That said it won't be suitable for everyone and in reality there is no single "right" way. Half the battle is knowing and understanding on a personal level what is and is not suitable bearing in mind your individual strengths and weaknesses. If you know what works for you then stick with it.
Ummm, I am sure I had more to say but I got distracted when you mentioned your *kitten*....0 -
Im the same way. I face this battle every day. I try to do the whole moderation thing but it doesn't work.
Example: Yesterday we had an office party with cake and cookies. I walked into the kitchen saying "I will have one small slice of cake, thats it."
After an hour of mingling I had downed 2 slices of cake and 6 shortbread cookies. I sat down at my desk and said WTF to myself.
Last night after work. Went to my sisters for my dad's birthday. She made a cake. I said to myself "Okay, you had two slices of cake and 6 cookies already. You don't need anymore cake."
Two slices of cake later, I got in my car to leave and I was so mad I gripped the steering wheel until my knuckled turned white and cried pretty much the whole drive home.
I know, you're probably thinking it's just one day. You fall of the wagon, get back up and start fresh. Well that's not possible. In the past week, I have had 7 slices of cake, countless number of cookies and I believe a cherry pie, pumpkin pie and a slice of cookie cake was somewhere in there. Between office parties, a wedding, and my dads birthday. Things have gone to ****. But it hasn't been just this past week. It's all the time. every time. I can't just have one and walk away.
So what do people like us do? I don't want to live the rest of my life without ever having another chocolate chip cookie.
I just walked into the kitchen and saw the tray of cookies sitting out on the table from yesterday. I walked by it, looked at it and said "today you will be my *****. you will not defeat me. i am better than you." as i was leaving the kitchen, i almost stopped and got one, but didn't because it's only 8am.0 -
lol Thanks doll
I come from a long line of women with very addictive personalities: shopping, food, alcohol, ...men....there's always at least one if not all they've had self control issues with
I'll have a little from time to time but I went off the deep end from Halloween - Thanksgiving and quickly put on 5lbs grrrrrr0 -
lol Thanks doll
I come from a long line of women with very addictive personalities: shopping, food, alcohol, ...men....there's always at least one if not all they've had self control issues with
I'll have a little from time to time but I went off the deep end from Halloween - Thanksgiving and quickly put on 5lbs grrrrrr
Do you have the men in moderation or do you go nuts as well? =P0 -
Do you have the men in moderation or do you go nuts as well? =P
A well executed pun sir.0 -
I'm right there with you.:noway:0
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Im the same way. I face this battle every day. I try to do the whole moderation thing but it doesn't work.
Example: Yesterday we had an office party with cake and cookies. I walked into the kitchen saying "I will have one small slice of cake, thats it."
After an hour of mingling I had downed 2 slices of cake and 6 shortbread cookies. I sat down at my desk and said WTF to myself.
Last night after work. Went to my sisters for my dad's birthday. She made a cake. I said to myself "Okay, you had two slices of cake and 6 cookies already. You don't need anymore cake."
Two slices of cake later, I got in my car to leave and I was so mad I gripped the steering wheel until my knuckled turned white and cried pretty much the whole drive home.
I know, you're probably thinking it's just one day. You fall of the wagon, get back up and start fresh. Well that's not possible. In the past week, I have had 7 slices of cake, countless number of cookies and I believe a cherry pie, pumpkin pie and a slice of cookie cake was somewhere in there. Between office parties, a wedding, and my dads birthday. Things have gone to ****. But it hasn't been just this past week. It's all the time. every time. I can't just have one and walk away.
So what do people like us do? I don't want to live the rest of my life without ever having another chocolate chip cookie.
I just walked into the kitchen and saw the tray of cookies sitting out on the table from yesterday. I walked by it, looked at it and said "today you will be my *****. you will not defeat me. i am better than you." as i was leaving the kitchen, i almost stopped and got one, but didn't because it's only 8am.
OMG I feel like I wrote this!!
I hear ya...Day after Thanksgiving I had 3 square meals of PIE!
Put on 5lbs in ONE MONTH....
What's done is done....don't beat yourself up. Kick some *kitten* in your workouts and like you said....you are better than the cookie!! Now the chocolate truffles in the back office at my work might be better than me LOL0 -
lol Thanks doll
I come from a long line of women with very addictive personalities: shopping, food, alcohol, ...men....there's always at least one if not all they've had self control issues with
I'll have a little from time to time but I went off the deep end from Halloween - Thanksgiving and quickly put on 5lbs grrrrrr
Do you have the men in moderation or do you go nuts as well? =P
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A lady doesn't kiss and tell .....
....but since I'm no lady, that doesn't apply to me :devil:
Nicely played btw :laugh:0 -
lol Thanks doll
I come from a long line of women with very addictive personalities: shopping, food, alcohol, ...men....there's always at least one if not all they've had self control issues with
I'll have a little from time to time but I went off the deep end from Halloween - Thanksgiving and quickly put on 5lbs grrrrrr
Do you have the men in moderation or do you go nuts as well? =P
I bow down to the funny man. good job.0 -
Sadly, I'm the same way. I always manage my calories and exercise so I can have one, full-size Hershey bar at night. The other day my mom said, why don't you get them in bulk, then you don't have to stop every night at a mart and it's probably cheaper that way. I just had to admit that while that was a smart idea, if I got a 10 pack of the bars I can't promise that I would have the will power not to eat them all. It's a true sickness for me so I just have to do what works for my situation.0
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i am the same way...for me it is pepsi (bad pepsi..bad!)
i had finally hit the 10 pound lost mark...went to a party and 3 cans of pepsi later i felt horrible...BUT not bad enough not to "indulge" just this past week at our christmas party (ok it wasn't just pepsi at this last party...there was some tequila rose mixed in there too,lol)...so now here i sit with those 10 pounds back on..i can never find my damn cars keys when they are lost but i sure as hell find the lost weight fast enough,lol. but on the plus side i am heading to my dad's for a week and he only drinks diet pop...so here is hoping i am off the pepsi kick when i get back next week. and come jan 2nd (since things are closed on the 1st) my butt is back in the gym!0 -
You are most definitely not alone!!
The holidays are the worst! I ate almost an entire box of turtles last night.... When I am on track, I am fully on track, but one small taste of chocolaty goodness and I am done for....
I know it is not the right attitude but I am so ready just to give up and start again fresh in the new year...:blushing:
Cheers,
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Sadly, I'm the same way. I always manage my calories and exercise so I can have one, full-size Hershey bar at night. The other day my mom said, why don't you get them in bulk, then you don't have to stop every night at a mart and it's probably cheaper that way. I just had to admit that while that was a smart idea, if I got a 10 pack of the bars I can't promise that I would have the will power not to eat them all. It's a true sickness for me so I just have to do what works for my situation.
exactly! plus if you just keep stopping at the store you'll get nights where you are too tired. that's the same reason i go to the store to buy a can of pop. and it's also the same reason i can go days without drinking one0 -
I'm the same way. If I'm craving something, I want to eat it until I don't want anymore. Which usually means eating it until I'm absolutely stuffed.0
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You know what? If you want it, eat it. But drink 2 glasses of water first. I guarantee you will not be eating nearly as much. I just did this at a Christmas party I went to last week and will be doing the same at another party tomorrow. Drink a glass of water when the next craving sets in too, before any food goes in your mouth. I log everything right after I eat it. If you have a smart phone or a phone with web access,and you have the MFP app on your phone you can log the calories when you are out and about. It will make you think twice.0
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I am the same way too. I have NO ability to moderate. I will eat the entire thing if it is sweets. I have completely cut them out for a few weeks, tried to eat a chocolate covered pretzel and it tasted HORRIBLE. I had a coworker say they tasted normal. I guess I just got my tastebuds away from them. But I am settled on the fact that I will never be able to really enjoy sweets again. It is like an alcoholic picking up a rum and coke. It COULD be ok, or it could be the start of my unraveling.0
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Ok I can't count how many times I've seen people post questions about whether they should have that burger they're craving or pie or whatever and so many answers of "everything in moderation"
See, now that's a problem for this chic! Moderation when it comes to yummy baked goods, pies, sweets, most anything covered in dark chocolate...I'm like an addict. Something in my brain is triggered and I go nuts and don't know when to stop....hence why I gained weight in the first place lol
Put some good wine, good cheese, good dark chocolate or some delicious hummus & pita bread nom nom nom
I don't know when to stop! OH and as I found out at Thanksgiving...any homemade berry pie...done for. I'll eat the WHOLE DARN THING w/o blinking an eye!
I know I'm can't be alone in this lol least I hope not. But there are certain foods I absolutely CANNOT have b/c I can't have just ONE bite or ONE piece or ONE nibble....I want the whole thing and I'll stab you with my fork if you try and pry it from my fingers :laugh:
:drinker:
Cheers to the Holidays Folks
You're my kind of gal! It's time to stop when I'm sick! Merry Christmas!! :-D0 -
If you know you can't say no - put it into your food diary first and account for it . Walk it off, hit the gym do what you can to even it out. Or at least TRY to even it out. You may not burn then all back off, but some is better than nothing!0
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Of course, I'm not talking about people with actual addictions, but I think a lot of times, people don't push themselves hard enough to be moderate. If you're strong enough to say "no thanks," then you really are strong enough to say "just one."
There's a huge bag of candy bars in my cupboard right now. I really could eat the whole damn thing at once. I've done that before, thinking, "Oh, just one or two fun-sized bars." and the whole bag was gone in a day. Now? I've have two, but it'll stop at two, and only when it fits my calories. And those two fun-sized bars really are worth the 20 minutes I spent on the treadmill burning those calories, but they're not worth any more than that.
Now if only I could budget my finances as well as I budget my calories. Too bad I can't earn extra cash by running! :laugh:0 -
It is like an alcoholic picking up a rum and coke. It COULD be ok, or it could be the start of my unraveling.
Exactly!!
At one point I tried substituting in sugar free free chocolate bars and pudding....know what happens when you eat too much sugar free candy....:noway: it was BAD!!0 -
Sadly, I'm the same way. I always manage my calories and exercise so I can have one, full-size Hershey bar at night. The other day my mom said, why don't you get them in bulk, then you don't have to stop every night at a mart and it's probably cheaper that way. I just had to admit that while that was a smart idea, if I got a 10 pack of the bars I can't promise that I would have the will power not to eat them all. It's a true sickness for me so I just have to do what works for my situation.
exactly! plus if you just keep stopping at the store you'll get nights where you are too tired. that's the same reason i go to the store to buy a can of pop. and it's also the same reason i can go days without drinking one
Yes! Some days I'm just beat or not in the mood, but if it is there, at my house, it is getting eaten for sure. So glad someone else has the same stuff going on!0 -
I used to be like that. I'd diet and give up all the fattening things I love the most and when I fell of that wagon, boy did I fall hard!I know I'm can't be alone in this lol least I hope not. But there are certain foods I absolutely CANNOT have b/c I can't have just ONE bite or ONE piece or ONE nibble....I want the whole thing and I'll stab you with my fork if you try and pry it from my fingers :laugh:
:drinker:
Cheers to the Holidays Folks
Now, I'm not saying that I don't struggle now and again, but I find I can take two biccies out of the tin and enjoy them. I'm not quite at the nibble and savour stage, but I eat them, account for them and drink two glasses of water afterwards.
I've been craving some chocolate since lunchtime. I've had my big bowl of chowder and the selection box they gave me at work is sitting to my left begging to be opened. But as long as it remains unopened I can ignore it. I know I have kit-kats in my drawer (they're leftover from before the weight-loss prog started) but again, out of sight, out of mind.
Tonight I'm going to have a girlie-night in with a very dear old friend and I know there will be wine (there always is :drinker: ) and possibly a take-away (to save him having to slave over a hot stove after work) so in a way I'm saving myself for the enjoyment and pleasure of later
You CAN get over your addictions and you can face your daemons too.
And the next time you want a cookie... think of having abs like PBJunkie and you might find it easier to say NO! :happy: 0 -
Im the same way. I face this battle every day. I try to do the whole moderation thing but it doesn't work.
Example: Yesterday we had an office party with cake and cookies. I walked into the kitchen saying "I will have one small slice of cake, thats it."
After an hour of mingling I had downed 2 slices of cake and 6 shortbread cookies. I sat down at my desk and said WTF to myself.
Last night after work. Went to my sisters for my dad's birthday. She made a cake. I said to myself "Okay, you had two slices of cake and 6 cookies already. You don't need anymore cake."
Two slices of cake later, I got in my car to leave and I was so mad I gripped the steering wheel until my knuckled turned white and cried pretty much the whole drive home.
I know, you're probably thinking it's just one day. You fall of the wagon, get back up and start fresh. Well that's not possible. In the past week, I have had 7 slices of cake, countless number of cookies and I believe a cherry pie, pumpkin pie and a slice of cookie cake was somewhere in there. Between office parties, a wedding, and my dads birthday. Things have gone to ****. But it hasn't been just this past week. It's all the time. every time. I can't just have one and walk away.
So what do people like us do? I don't want to live the rest of my life without ever having another chocolate chip cookie.
I just walked into the kitchen and saw the tray of cookies sitting out on the table from yesterday. I walked by it, looked at it and said "today you will be my *****. you will not defeat me. i am better than you." as i was leaving the kitchen, i almost stopped and got one, but didn't because it's only 8am.
My suggestion would not be to go the rest of your life without these things, but do go totally without them for a while. And I mean nothing sweet at all. You may want to wait till after Christmas, but once you go without any sweets for a perios of time (several weeks, not just a few days) you may lose the cravings and when you do add them back you'll find that you simply can't eat them the way you used to. At least that worked for me. I just decided to give up sugary foods and desserts on day. Now I rarely crave them (sometimes during PMS) but the real difference is how incredibly sweet everything tastes. Too much and it just starts to make me feel a little nauseous. I have no science to back this up. I only know it worked for me.0 -
But that's the whole point of moderation.....have some but stay within a single serving. If you can't control yourself then stay away. How badly do you want to lose weight? You've got to work for it for it, hon. There ain't no other way. You can do this!!0
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I've found that the pain-in-the-butt-ness of entering everything I eat in a food diary or MFP on my phone helps me curb the desire to eat more. The trick is forcing yourself to enter it first, before you pick it up. Even just seeing how much of a hit my daily limit will take if I eat another cookie is enough to make me think twice and sometimes that's all I need.
Oh, and gum.0 -
....I want the whole thing and I'll stab you with my fork if you try and pry it from my fingers :laugh:
:drinker:
Cheers to the Holidays Folks
I love this . . .0 -
I know just what you are going through! Chocolate, cheesecake, ice cream are some of my worst cravings ...
Food is an addition for some of us. Unlike other additions, you can't give it up. The addage, "Everything in Moderation", is a good one, but it is definitely a constant and lifelong struggle to adhere to it.0 -
Of course, I'm not talking about people with actual addictions, but I think a lot of times, people don't push themselves hard enough to be moderate. If you're strong enough to say "no thanks," then you really are strong enough to say "just one."
There's a huge bag of candy bars in my cupboard right now. I really could eat the whole damn thing at once. I've done that before, thinking, "Oh, just one or two fun-sized bars." and the whole bag was gone in a day. Now? I've have two, but it'll stop at two, and only when it fits my calories. And those two fun-sized bars really are worth the 20 minutes I spent on the treadmill burning those calories, but they're not worth any more than that.
Now if only I could budget my finances as well as I budget my calories. Too bad I can't earn extra cash by running! :laugh:
Completely agree! My fridge is always stocked full of fun sized goodness - but I know I have to earn them!!0 -
I am one of the 'everything in moderation' group.
However, I totally get that you can lose control. I do my fair share of losing control still. I'm a total emotional eater and when there's something delicious I just want to KEEP EATING IT. The other day I had 3 big chocolate chip cookies that my gf's mom baked. A couple days after I had 4 or 5 frosted sugar cookies. Every time I go to dinner at the gf's mom's house she makes high-calorie stuff like short ribs or giant pork chops and I end up eating double what I should of it.
I guess you just have to remember that nobody is perfect and if you make choices throughout the rest of the day to make up for your mistakes it'll all work out.0 -
Two things that have worked for me, and that may or may not help for you (especially this time of year):
1. Limit alcohol. I eat four times as much with a glass of wine (or bottle
) in my hand. Wine makes everything taste better, it seems. I have tried to cut back to one or two glasses a week.
2. If you have myfitnesspal on your iphone (or other), look up the calories of what you are about to put in your mouth. That has helped me reevaluate how much I actually "want" whatever it is.0
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