.... a burned out Weight Watchers member!!
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im a member of weight watchers online ..ive been a member for almost 3 months...i love the ap on my phone that tells me what i can eat if i want to go to a restaurant ....other then that i never eat the points they give me in a single day ....
i was diagnosed with ednos late last year, ....the weight watchers gave me a feeling of control of what i was eating and what i could have ...my 3 months is about over and im seriously thinking of cancelling my membership ...im 10 lbs away from goal and i wonder if you can become a lifetime member online and not have to pay ..hmmmm ....i googled the tools and im going to wait until morning to find out my fat percentage but im interested in knowing
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i also wonder ...because ive lost over 120 lbs ..i have alot of loose skin ...they want you to measure your waist and hips ..where most of my skin is ..and enter that for the fat percentage ??? will it be accurate ??? just asking since im not sure :blushing:0
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Hang in there...there are a lot of good people support here and it doesn't cost a dime. Little changes - big wins.0
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I lost a lot of weight on WW but they were no help at teaching me to maintain it. So surprise I am on a health change not a diet, although I do have 20 pounds to go, it is just one choice at a time.0
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I just quit WW... and will be doing MFP instead.
I think WW could work, but I find their online food database scarce compared to this one.
Also, why pay if I could do this on my own. I was only doing the online version anyway. I did not get the group support. You folks look awesome
It is a lifestyle change, I am in no hurry and this feels right.
Honestly, this was the initial thing that impressed me most about MFP. The database is sooooooo complete. WW has some type of partnership with Smart Ones....so guess what....Lean Cuisine meals aren't in their database! Retarded! Also, what can beat free? Nothing! And if I see another Jennifer Hudson endorsement, I'm gonna :explode: :explode: And another thing....points don't save me from water retention and hypertension from all those sodium soaked frozen dinners I was eating...I lost 15 lbs on WW, but I gained it all back because I still didn't learn everything I needed to know about HOW to eat. MFP forces you to take a look at individual nutrients, as well as rewards you just for logging your food in.
And how about that cool barcode scanner on your phone with the MFP app? Coolness.0 -
I lost ~140 pounds on WW. Not really going to bash it. Every way of eating isn't for everyone.
I lost about 15 lbs on WW's. They taught me to eat better, they taught about measuring, I became a better/healthier cook and grocery shopper, they taught the value of accountability and group support. You won't see me bashing it either.
I'm here because this is free and I've moved on to a more advanced stage of my health and fitness journey.0 -
:flowerforyou: Thank you Jasmine .... I'm looking forward to a wonderful link to success through this forum. Diana0
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My adult daughter just joined WW, she has a serious weight issue, 5' 4" and over 400 lbs. She needs a program with support. I hope it works for her. As for me, I went to a meeting and here is what I think. The new points plus system seems to hide calories, I think my daughter was given too many points and the points aren't a good gauge for what you are eating, sometimes the points are free and other times they count. I think the system has people losing at a very slow rate, so they can maximize your time in the program and collect $45 a month from you forever.
It appears that WW is more into taking your money, than really helping you lose weight. When I make something like a large batch of spaghetti sauce and then try and break it down into points for a serving, it becomes anyone's guess how many points to give a serving. MFP works nicely for me, haven't really lost any weight yet, but am trying to follow the program.
In my opinion you are correct in your statement. I'd rather put that $45.00 in a jar for a new wardrobe when I lose all my weight. If your daughter has the same problems as I stated below, she may want to join you here. I'm glad my friend told me about this site as even though I have only been here since Tuesday I am seeing results already.
Last year I joined and it took me 16 weeks to lose 15 pounds and I was over 380 at the time. They had me on 54 points to start with, which seemed awful high to me but I followed what they said. After the first 16 weeks I lowered my points to about 35 and lost 11 pounds that next week, 6 the following week and was told if I continued at that rate I would not be allowed to continued. I went 1 more week and lost weight again and should have gotten my 10% weight loss token. I never got it. I think they were mad at me because in 3 weeks lowering my points I had lost more weight than I did in the 16 weeks following there points. I said goodbye to them and came here in the New Year.0 -
I rejoined ww in january. Went to my first meeting and recalled the reason I stopped going in the first place. I found this site and am so happy i did. It's free.... I have tracked better and longer than ever before yea!!!!! only down 7lbs but feeling better0
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I'm a WW drop-out too, though at the time it did work for me - I lost 12 kilos but then over a few years, 'found' it again. I agree that MFP gives you all the information you need without paying. Also WW seems to encourage you to buy in to the idea of 'it doesn't matter what you eat so long as you stay within your points' - but I'm better off sticking to good whole foods without too much refined/processed stuff in it. That way I feel satisfied and eat the right amount. The WW meals I see in the supermarket don't attract me at all; they seem mean in proportion and tend to have lots of additives. Yes they're limited in 'points' - but I'd rather have 'real' food.0
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Be sure to start right!
Google Fat to Fit Radio Tools.
Do the body fat calculator then BMR tool.
Eat EXACTLY the amount of calories given per your activity factor and you will lose fat.
Eat too low and you will lose muscle!
Custom set MFP to 30% protein 40% carbs.
Enjoy losing inches babe!
I tried to do this, and I don't know if I messed up or what, but it said my body fat percentage is 28.6%, and I'm sure it would have to be way higher than that, since I'm morbidly obese. I put in my measurements correctly, so I don't know how I messed up. I just don't get how I could supposedly eat like 2300 calories without exercising and lose weight. Surely I messed up!0 -
Be sure to start right!
Google Fat to Fit Radio Tools.
Do the body fat calculator then BMR tool.
Eat EXACTLY the amount of calories given per your activity factor and you will lose fat.
Eat too low and you will lose muscle!
Custom set MFP to 30% protein 40% carbs.
Enjoy losing inches babe!
I tried to do this, and I don't know if I messed up or what, but it said my body fat percentage is 28.6%, and I'm sure it would have to be way higher than that, since I'm morbidly obese. I put in my measurements correctly, so I don't know how I messed up. I just don't get how I could supposedly eat like 2300 calories without exercising and lose weight. Surely I messed up!
i actually put in the measurements and it said 27.4 ..then said i should weigh 136 lbs ..and then i did the waist to height ratio test and it said im extremely obese lolol ....i think its the extra skin throwing it off :noway:0 -
hmmm i just tried out that fat to fit radio tools.... its says i should lose 55lbs!!!! i have a goal of 40lb as 55lb would put me down way too low!!! to the point i would look sick
Wow, that's interesting that it told you to lose more than what you wanted. It told me to stop when I hit 169 pounds! I don't think I trust that...it seems really high.0 -
It told me mine was 253, lol!0
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I went to 3 ww meetings several years ago and never went back because after everyone weighed in, the leader just handed out the weekend booklet, tried to sell us some ww products and the meeting was over. I never bothered to go back and ended up just using the info on my own. I managed to lose 32 lbs and kept it off for 3 years until I started experiencing major digestive problems. Over the last 2 years, I ended up gaining back almost all of the weight I'd lost and have struggled unsuccessfully to get back on track with WW. I even considered becoming a member again, but the new plan seems daunting and I don't want to pay to start from scratch and find out that I can't do it.
I've been trying to do the old plan on my own again for the last few weeks and have made a few futile attempts to create a group here and to get involved on the free ww board but I'm just not getting any where. Part of it has to do with the fact that my digestive system is so screwed up and sensitive now and I've only recently discovered that a major part of the problem is meat, dairy or some legumes (chick peas, soy, peanuts, kidney beans and lima beans). Having to cut out all of those things has been a major challenge and has left me feeling kind of lost finding my way around.
I find that just counting points doesn't take into account the limitations I face with my "new normal" and I haven't lost an ounce, but realistically, I don't know if switching to counting calories will be any better. I'm open to any ideas/suggestions anyone has to offer.
Thanks!
Christie.0 -
I just quit WW... and will be doing MFP instead.
I think WW could work, but I find their online food database scarce compared to this one.
Also, why pay if I could do this on my own. I was only doing the online version anyway. I did not get the group support. You folks look awesome
It is a lifestyle change, I am in no hurry and this feels right.
Honestly, this was the initial thing that impressed me most about MFP. The database is sooooooo complete. WW has some type of partnership with Smart Ones....so guess what....Lean Cuisine meals aren't in their database! Retarded! Also, what can beat free? Nothing! And if I see another Jennifer Hudson endorsement, I'm gonna :explode: :explode: And another thing....points don't save me from water retention and hypertension from all those sodium soaked frozen dinners I was eating...I lost 15 lbs on WW, but I gained it all back because I still didn't learn everything I needed to know about HOW to eat. MFP forces you to take a look at individual nutrients, as well as rewards you just for logging your food in.
And how about that cool barcode scanner on your phone with the MFP app? Coolness.
What reward do we get for logging food and what is the barcode scanner app? I'm still relatively new to the site and don't know much about all of it's perks.0 -
I have to say WW had it's advantages. But the Point system just seemed a lot more complicated then before. I was on my second time through when my friend who was struggling so much was not getting any help. They just gave her a hard time when she tried to make HERSELF feel more comfortable with her losing (she explains it earlier in this thread) SO I just told her we didn't have to go back. I was losing fine for the most part but I was content with 2-3 pounds a week or even 1 pound as long as I was losing.
I think the statement made earlier was right. WW is now just geared to keep you on the program as long as they can to collect your money every month.
I have been on MFP for a month on SUNDAY and I am down 19pounds!! I am loving the easy website, tracking, support community, and person-ability of the whole thing. Yes there are some Flaws that have to be accepted but I am willing to just for the rest of it.
I am so glad that I found MFP and that I was able to get my friend on with me and that it is working for her! That is the best support I think we can share.0 -
I wish my brother would come here instead. He keeps gaining as he says juices are free and fruit too. It still has natural sugar. He continues to gain, and he doesn't have a lot of money but is paying for WW where here is free.0
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I did WW fairly successfully for about 3 years back in the 1990s, and still have loads of their magazines and recipe books. It worked fairly well, but restarted in 2001, and again in 2002, and then dropped out altogether, and put all the weight back on plus some. I feel much more in control here on MFP, and am learning so much more about the metabolism and need for water, that I never learned at WW. And like all you others, I resented paying - initially I thought paying out good money would keep me at it, but in practice I would rather save that money for treats like theatre or pampering days!
And the support here on MFP is fantastic - only downside is that I am spending too much time online!0 -
im a member of weight watchers online ..ive been a member for almost 3 months...i love the ap on my phone that tells me what i can eat if i want to go to a restaurant ....other then that i never eat the points they give me in a single day ....
i was diagnosed with ednos late last year, ....the weight watchers gave me a feeling of control of what i was eating and what i could have ...my 3 months is about over and im seriously thinking of cancelling my membership ...im 10 lbs away from goal and i wonder if you can become a lifetime member online and not have to pay ..hmmmm ....i googled the tools and im going to wait until morning to find out my fat percentage but im interested in knowing ...
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You can't become a lifetime member if you are an on line member because they have no way of verifying your weight, so they say, but they also have no way of keeping your money if you are lifetime member ;-)]0 -
This part should have been out of the quote.
You can't become a lifetime member if you are an on line member because they have no way of verifying your weight, so they say, but they also have no way of keeping your money if you are lifetime member ;-)]0 -
Be sure to start right!
Google Fat to Fit Radio Tools.
Do the body fat calculator then BMR tool.
Eat EXACTLY the amount of calories given per your activity factor and you will lose fat.
Eat too low and you will lose muscle!
Custom set MFP to 30% protein 40% carbs.
Enjoy losing inches babe!
Hey Dan thanks for the tips. I went to the site and used the BMR tool. My BMR was 1891 calories per day. Are you saying I should eat that?
Also, one of the calculators was really weird. It calculated my current BF at 27.9%. I went to the "Calculate your Goal Weight" and it said my BF was in the healthy range. I don't understand?!?! It also said my Goal Weight should be 220 lbs? That cannot be right? Could you help explain to me what that is all about? At the end it says my goal weight which seems to be correct. But I don't understand the 220 lbs?
Okay, here is clip and pasted:
You currently weigh 242 pounds with a body fat percentage of 27.9%. You would like to have a body fat percentage of 21%.
Based on this information, your goal body weight should be:
220 pounds
How did we calculate this goal body weight?
We took you current weight and your current body fat percentage and multiplied them together. (Weight X Current Body Fat %/100) to get how many pounds of you is actually just fat. In this case you are currently carrying around 68 pounds of fat. To get your goal body weight we work backwards and divide your lean body mass by one minus your goal body fat percentage. (Lean Body Mass / (1 - Goal Body Fat %/100). This calculation yields your goal body weight.
When you reach your goal, hopefully you have maintained your current lean body mass of 174 pounds.0 -
Hi I am new to MFP as of Tuesday. I am really enjoying so far. I was wondering if there is anyone out there that has a thyroid condition because I have an under active thyroid and have difficulty losing weight.
I have Hashimoto's disease (Hashimoto's Thyroiditis)0 -
Be sure to start right!
Google Fat to Fit Radio Tools.
Do the body fat calculator then BMR tool.
Eat EXACTLY the amount of calories given per your activity factor and you will lose fat.
Eat too low and you will lose muscle!
Custom set MFP to 30% protein 40% carbs.
Enjoy losing inches babe!
Hey Dan thanks for the tips. I went to the site and used the BMR tool. My BMR was 1891 calories per day. Are you saying I should eat that?
Also, one of the calculators was really weird. It calculated my current BF at 27.9%. I went to the "Calculate your Goal Weight" and it said my BF was in the healthy range. I don't understand?!?! It also said my Goal Weight should be 220 lbs? That cannot be right? Could you help explain to me what that is all about? At the end it says my goal weight which seems to be correct. But I don't understand the 220 lbs?
Okay, here is clip and pasted:
You currently weigh 242 pounds with a body fat percentage of 27.9%. You would like to have a body fat percentage of 21%.
Based on this information, your goal body weight should be:
220 pounds
How did we calculate this goal body weight?
We took you current weight and your current body fat percentage and multiplied them together. (Weight X Current Body Fat %/100) to get how many pounds of you is actually just fat. In this case you are currently carrying around 68 pounds of fat. To get your goal body weight we work backwards and divide your lean body mass by one minus your goal body fat percentage. (Lean Body Mass / (1 - Goal Body Fat %/100). This calculation yields your goal body weight.
When you reach your goal, hopefully you have maintained your current lean body mass of 174 pounds.
Your BMR is at the top of the page, probably about 1400-1500.
The calories given next to the activity is what you eat daily.
You can choose to eat back anything as long as you stay above your BMR.
Double check that Katch Mcartle number.0 -
Sometimes our bodies need a change ... congrats on the weight loss, and good luck!0
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I hear that! I have been on weight watchers for a month and lost 9 pds., but the meetings are terribly unproductive and lame. I wait in line for an hour to get weighed, all so I can get some retarded star passed out to me and have people clap if I lose 5 pds. I am also diabetic and I am really disappointed by the fact that they don't take diabetes into consideration with their plan. For instance, with the power foods, you can supposedly eat as much as you want-- but if I ate all of the bananas or grapes I wanted, my sugar would be sky high. Weight watchers is highly over rated, over priced, and they don't offer anything that one can't already do on their own accord by buying a scale, tracking with this site, and purchasing a few workout dvds.
I am diabetic and a former Weight Watcher. The program was actually fairly close to what had been prescribed for ne by the diabetes nutritionist. But I think WW ran into trouble when it declared fruit to be "free". Members started to gorge themselves on fruit, then wonder why they were gaining weight. One banana a day is fine. Six bananas aren't. In doing MFP, you have to count calories for everything, and I think this program gives you a better handle on what and how much you're eating.0 -
I agree. I've been in and out of WW. WW was effective only when I remember to track. I can't always remember to calculate my food to points value. And I eat out a lot, so it is difficult to find the points value. MFP is so much easier, much user friendly and I can access it on my phone anytime of the day. The food data base is 100% much better and WW's. There's no conversion to points, just plain calories, fat, etc.. Calculation the old school way and still works.
I'm not really a new MFP since I've been playing between WW & MFP for the past year or so. This past week, I finally stopped WW and focused on MFP. And what what do you know, I lost 3 lbs just this week alone!0 -
Be sure to start right!
Google Fat to Fit Radio Tools.
Do the body fat calculator then BMR tool.
Eat EXACTLY the amount of calories given per your activity factor and you will lose fat.
Eat too low and you will lose muscle!
Custom set MFP to 30% protein 40% carbs.
Enjoy losing inches babe!
Your BMR is at the top of the page, probably about 1400-1500.
The calories given next to the activity is what you eat daily.
You can choose to eat back anything as long as you stay above your BMR.
Double check that Katch Mcartle number.
Sorry, I feel so dumb here lol! I did as you said, I cannot see anywhere on the page where it says 1400-1500. The Katch McCartle number is 2078 calories. I will copy and paste the page:
Entered information: 35 year old female, 69 inches tall, weighing 242 pounds.
From the information that you entered, you'd like to weigh 175 lbs.
Harris-Benedict Formula
There are a few different methods to calculating yourbasal metabolic rate (BMR). One of the most popular, developed in the early 1900's is called the Harris-Benedict formula. Based on this formula, your current BMR is 1868 calories.
Katch-McArdle Forumla
The numbers above are fairly accurate, however they don't take into account your lean body mass. A more accurate formula that does take your lean body mass into account is the Katch-McArdle formula. Since many of us have scales that will tell us our current body fat, this formula may yield more accurate results. Based on the information you provided, body fat percentage of 27.9%, you have a lean body mass of 174 lbs., and your BMR is 2078 calories.0 -
I was also on weight watcher, and still am until the end of the month. This program fits me alot better because I can scan in the items I eat and it is faster. Also when i work out weight watchers doesn't give you any I dea of how many points you add for work our time or calories. And then they go an endorse Mc Donalds chicken nuggets saying they are weight watchers approved.0
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Be sure to start right!
Google Fat to Fit Radio Tools.
Do the body fat calculator then BMR tool.
Eat EXACTLY the amount of calories given per your activity factor and you will lose fat.
Eat too low and you will lose muscle!
Custom set MFP to 30% protein 40% carbs.
Enjoy losing inches babe!
also it took me a while to notice, but if you are logging via smartphone, there's a super-handy barcode reader next to the space for entering the name of the food. click there, let it focus & voila! your item is entered!0
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