Eating once per day

I'm really interested in this form too, Alternate Day Fasting;

http://propanefitness.com/how-to-add-hours-to-your-day-eat-as-much-as-you-want-and-get-leaner/

I just started IF a few days ago. I fast between 8pm and midday the next day. Why? Because three years ago when i determined i should have breakfast because it's 'healthy', I started putting weight on, which is how I ended up here!

So I used to do IF subconsciously, just was never hungry for breakfast. When I started breakfasting, my body got used to eating earlier so it started expecting food and got hungry (apparently your body will get used to whichever routine you give it, the key is consistency) and then I continued to be hungry all day and ate more. TA DA - weight gain.

I've been doing this now since monday, and already I feel less hungry in the morning. And it means I have far more cals left for dinner which I prefer to have as a big meal with hubby.

I was chatting to a friend about it last night and she said if she doesn't eat when she gets up she feels faint and thinks fasting must therefore be 'bad' - but I think there are a few reasons for this: 1) She's a vegetarian so she has to eat a lot to get in sufficient calories, 2) she has a very active job, and 3) she's never even considered the possibility of skipping breakfast. Her body well and truly expects food upon waking. She hasn't given thought to the idea that she feels faint becuase her body expects food, rather than technically needing it. Again, it's all about the routine your body knows.

But for me, desk job, find it easy to over-eat calories, easily tempted by food - to start my eating day at midday has helped me regulate my intake massively, even though I've only been doing it a few days. Although I never was a big breakfast eater, even when I was growing up I used to not eat breakfast but have a snack at mid-morning break instead.

For those who are completely convinced that Intermitent Fasting, skipping breakfast, and eating all your daily calories in a short amount of time does you 'damage' - that's what the diet world (and the breakfast cereal market) wants us to believe, but there is far more evidence in the form of studies that actually disprove this than support it. As someone else said, check www.leangains.com for research. And please don't write off something because you've been told (even over many years) that it's wrong, please have an open mind :flowerforyou: I'm the heaviest now that I've ever been, it's due to increased calorie intake, and it was encouraged by eating breakfast.

Though as someone else said, if eating little and often helps you regulate your appetite, then do it if it works. But your metabolism isn't going to 'slow down' just because you don't eat for half a day, that has been debunked numerous times.

I'm curious about this whole intermitten fasting. I may have to try it. I have found that if i eat breakfast that by lunch I'm starving and ready to eat until I'm uncomfortably full but if I don't eat anything for breakfast and just have a drink (normally a diet something or a Dr. Pepper 10) then by lunch time its not too bad. I find myself getting too close to going over on my calories when I start out my morning eating. Until recently I almost never ate breakfast but I've been eating a banana becuase everyone is soooo preachy about "Breakfast is the most important meal of the day" blah blah blah. I could see if you were hypoglycemic or an insulin dependant diabetic that IF would be extremly counter productive but I'm really leaning toward giving it a try.... Will have to do some reading.

I can see how it would be way more fun to eat my 1300 in one meal than stretch it out through the day, but for me personally I wouldn't have the energy to keep up with my 2 year old.

In terms of metabolism, i imagine drinking ice cold water through the day could keep you burning calories as much as eating several small meals.

In the end everyone has to what works for them. As long as you are eating a balanced one meal. minimizing sodium and sugar and bad fats and maximizing nutrition, it's worth a shot if you think it would be a good fit.

I do this quite a bit. It gives me free reign on how much I can eat for dinner. I can put away some food in one sitting (5 chicken drumsticks. anyone? An 8oz steak - medium rare? YUM!!). There are days when I eat a lot of food (I don't count calories to maintain my weight; the only macronutrient that affects my weight is carbohydrates.)

If your first meal of the day is in the evening - you are breaking fast. It doesn't matter when you eat it. I very, very rarely eat in the AM unless I have some 85% dark chocolate or coconut oil or cream with my coffee although sometimes I'll eat a few eggs with a few pieces of uncured bacon. The coffee is probably the reason I don't feel hungry.

When I was eating high-carb I HAD to eat every couple of hours because my body needed the fix every couple of hours - blood sugar up then blood sugar down and CRASH - I'm weak, shaky and starving. Now I follow a high-fat diet and I can go all day without eating. I might get hungry but it's no biggie. The hunger doesn't bother me at all and I don't get the shakes anymore.

I love IF. My first day of Primal Blueprint was a 26 hour fast that started on a Friday evening. After six months of counting calories and weighing a logging food and having to deal with food the ENTIRE DAY that first IF felt like freedom. And that dinner I had on Saturday evening tasted absolutely amazing!

And for the friend who feels faint. She might want to get her iron levels checked. There's a good chance she could be anemic.

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For those who want to read up on these issues in more depth, this is a really good place to start: http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html

I've been doing this for a while now and I enjoy it. I wake up at 6 - get my coffee with minimal additions (10-20 cals) and may have a few pieces of gum throughout the day along with whatever water I end up drinking. I enjoy dinner with my family and usually continue eating until my calories / macros have been satisfied. Sometimes just before I hop in bed.

Eating for most of us is a learned behavior, so when we start trying to change the way we've been brought up, there's some psychological resistance.

There has been no effect on muscle mass, nor will there be. I eat a normal, variety of foods, usually of which I've planned ahead for.

Eat in the fashion that allows you to best adhere to your diet.

I am impressed by your " matter of fact " presence and I concur that it is not for everyone. Although most in the medical profession would strongly disagree with you ... I find that " whatever " works for you is what is best for you. And from what I can see in your picture ... it definitely works for you ! Just sayin'

Sadly, most in the medical profession (ie family doctors) have little or no training in this. Those who read the research on short term fasting (and there is a lot of that out there right now) would not disagree. The factor that will make or break any diet is how well you can stick with it in the long term. For many people, myself included, eating 5-6 small meals a day is difficult to work into my schedule, and it makes me hungry all the time. When I do that I constantly need to fight the desire to eat more. Doing what I do now, eating all my calories in a 4-10 or so window, I am satisfied, have no desire to eat all the time, and get through the day just fine. I even workout at a high intensity while fasted. Now for some people this would be unsustainable, but for me this works.

Fasting is very bad. It's dangerous. It serves no purpose. It does not help your health, weight loss or anything else. As to eating once a day = that's just stupid. The human body is designed to eat a number of times throughout the day. Small, healthy meals. This keeps the blood sugar and the metabolism is good working order. Eating once a day will screw up your system and do a good deal of damage.

The only thing stupid here is this post

The body isn't designed to graze like we do. Back in the day we'd kill and eat once or twice a day at most and grab the odd berry/vegetable that was growing wild.

A few thousand years isn't enough to change human evolution.

All in moderation. Balance is key right?
I think that's a good plan when you know you're going to have a high calorie meal (dinner party, etc)
What i'll do is munch on really light snacks like grapes or salad (without dressing) so i dont go into starvation and get delirious.

Starvation mode is a myth. You know that right?

but the side effects of being hungry are real.

^^ for me. I couldn't do IF...I get lightheaded, shaky and dizzy if I don't eat every 2 to three hours (except when sleeping). It works great for some, not for others!!

You are getting the lightheaded, shaky and dizzy feelings if you don't eat every couple of hours due to the high carb (processed grains).

maybe not. could be simple hypoglycemia. some people just get low blood sugar if they go for long periods without eating. I wouldn't simply write it off and just carb related. Which hypoglycemia kind of is. The only thing to treat hypoglycemia is carbs :huh: That being said the only way to know for sure would be to see your doctor or check your blood sugar when you are feeling shaky/dizzy. I have a friend that has to eat every few hours because her blood sugar will drop but if I am busy I could go all day without eating. I think they secretly teach you in nursing school how to go all day witout eating or doing to the bathroom :laugh: If I'm busy I can get hungry but forget about it. Same with having to pee. If I'm busy I can totally forget I need to go. Now for a quick joke. All nurses will think its funny and pretty true :bigsmile:

The body of a dead nurse washed up on the banks of (insert whatever body of water you prefer). Do you know how they knew it was a nurse? Her stomach was empty, her bladder was full, and she had her butt chewed off. :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile:

Can I ask what the point of fasting is? I eat a lot of food(low calorie clean food) and I am losing weight and my diet is something I can stick to for the rest of my life. Why would you do this type of technique unless you were training for something and you have to weigh in at a certain weight at a given time? Like a mma fighter for example. This type of diet is not long term and I am willing to bet most people who lose a lot of weight this way will end up putting it back on at some point.

Not trying to be a ****...just would like the logic behind it and learn from why you think it's the way to go!

First of all if you are having success with your current plan then I wouldn't change it regardless of what I or anyone else says about IF.

In my opinion, the biggest reason to do IF is satiety. Eating 2000 calories in 1 or 2 meals doesn't feel like dieting AT ALL. It feels like eating really big-*kitten* meals, and it's amazing for some people.

Most people get used to the fasting portion because ghrelin (hunger signaling hormone) is somewhat adaptive to behavior.

Oh yeah I found something I like, I used to eat once a day because I was un healthy and eating MCD's all the time and then I switched to my current lifestyle and it is amazing.

I just seem to think this fasting thing would be better suited to people in shape or maintaining instead of over weight people like myself. The way I see it is this, I got over weight by unhealthy eating habbits and now I am eating the way I intend to eat for the rest of my life. Fasting and eating big portions seems to be a short term thing. Especcially for big people because they will lose weight but once they reach their goal, they will probably start eating more during the day and put it back on.

BTW not saying my way is right and you guys are wrong...just curious

If you are like most of us (probably all of us here) it is not just "unhealthy" (whatever that is) eating habits, it is because of too many calories in a day eating habits. There is not any reason a person who is Intermittent Fasting would not eat "healthy" From what I have seen the vast majority eat as healthy as anyone here on MFP. It is simply recognizing two facts, 1) When you eat, that is meal frequency, is pretty much irrelevant in terms of metabolism (eating more or less frequently doesn't effect your overall metabolism for the day at all), weight loss, or much else 2) What is important is that you feel satisfied with what you are eating so you can maintain that eating plan. Yes, IF is not for everyone, although there are hormonal benefits from short term periods of fasting like 18-24 or ever 36 hours, but you can lose weight and fat without those just as well. Yet, for people like me who cannot be satisfied with a bunch of 200-300 calorie meals throughout the day without constantly feeling hungry, or those who cannot fit that sort of eating into their schedule, or those who find the 5-6 meals a day thing unsustainable for other reasons, IF may be just the ticket to a lifelong way of eating that allows them to keep their calories where they need them for weight loss or maintenance.

For me it works, and works well. It is when, due to outside pressure, I go back to 3 meals a day with a traditional morning breakfast, that I find I struggle against the urge to eat constantly through the day. That doesn't mean it will work for everyone, but it is not "unhealthy" or "unsustainable" in and of itself.

I follow a 16/8 intermittent fast schedule now - 16 hours fasting - 8 hours eating, every day. Works well for me. I understand there is controversy around this approach. Great e-book here:

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/intermittent-fasting

I drink about 40 ounces of brewed green tea in the morning and BCAA's around 10:30/11am. Then eating my entire 1500 calories for the day in an 8 our window is actually quite filling and I don't go to bed feeling hungry.

One last note - General (ret) Stanley McCrystal, West Pointer, Special Forces, Commander in Afghanistan, eats only 1 meal per day and he is in better shape at nearly 60 years old than I've ever been in my life. The point being - everyone is an individual. Read the research, give it a try, and decide what works for you.

I tend to do this a lot. But, not eating NOTHING all day. I usually eat really light my first 2 meals and then eat whatever I want in the evenings and stay under my calorie goal. I enjoy it so much more on days when I do this. I feel a little deprived if I have to eat very small portions the entire day. Saving my calories for the evenings makes me feel normal and I can actually feel satisfied

Fasting is very bad. It's dangerous. It serves no purpose. It does not help your health, weight loss or anything else. As to eating once a day = that's just stupid. The human body is designed to eat a number of times throughout the day. Small, healthy meals. This keeps the blood sugar and the metabolism is good working order. Eating once a day will screw up your system and do a good deal of damage.

The only thing stupid here is this post

The body isn't designed to graze like we do. Back in the day we'd kill and eat once or twice a day at most and grab the odd berry/vegetable that was growing wild.

A few thousand years isn't enough to change human evolution.

We also died in our 20s and 30s. :bigsmile:

I'm not saying that LF is bad or unhealthy, but we don't live AT ALL like cave men did. So why should we model their diet?

Fasting is very bad. It's dangerous. It serves no purpose. It does not help your health, weight loss or anything else. As to eating once a day = that's just stupid. The human body is designed to eat a number of times throughout the day. Small, healthy meals. This keeps the blood sugar and the metabolism is good working order. Eating once a day will screw up your system and do a good deal of damage.

The only thing stupid here is this post

The body isn't designed to graze like we do. Back in the day we'd kill and eat once or twice a day at most and grab the odd berry/vegetable that was growing wild.

A few thousand years isn't enough to change human evolution.

We also died in our 20s and 30s. :bigsmile:

I'm not saying that LF is bad or unhealthy, but we don't live AT ALL like cave men did. So why should we model their diet?

They lived a much harder life, that was physically more taxing on their systems compared to what we live today. Access to proper amounts of food wasnt available, healthcare etc etc etc. The way they ate probably had little to do with how long they lived.