Definition of "buff" via a woman + attractiveness
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of course it's not wrong. i have a feeling you know that. check out a superhero, admired by many of us here. she's motivating and buff (yes, buff):
http://nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/
Great article. I think that should be a most read for women thinking about lifting. Seeing just how fit and feminine she lookse while developing some series strength is impressive.0 -
I had the same exact argument yesterday with an ex boyf, I said I was hoping for muscle definition, he said that he thought that was really unattractive and would prefer to see bones as a sign of slimness...that rules him out of him ever seeing me naked again...I want to be stronggggggg (though not pumped...but obviously YOU understand the difference
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I agree ^^ Staci looks great, really toned without losing her feminine side. For me, the pics you posted are just a little too far on the muscular side, but I totally support you wanting to do it - it's about being what you want to be and pushing yourself to get there.
I love seeing pics of celebs where their legs are really defined (think Gywnneth Paltrow when she went workout crazy for Iron Man) with a great curve above the knee, and their arms are taut and shapely. For me, some of Madonna's pics are a bit scary these days, especially her arms, but again, it's personal preference.
Go for it! Looking forward to seeing your before and after pics 0 -
I had the same exact argument yesterday with an ex boyf, I said I was hoping for muscle definition, he said that he thought that was really unattractive and would prefer to see bones as a sign of slimness...that rules him out of him ever seeing me naked again...I want to be stronggggggg (though not pumped...but obviously YOU understand the difference ) x
100%, but even if I desired to look like a body builder my boyfriend's only response should be "get it done!" because it isn't his body and I'm not looking for approval of men, I'm looking for self approval.0 -
I had the same exact argument yesterday with an ex boyf, I said I was hoping for muscle definition, he said that he thought that was really unattractive and would prefer to see bones as a sign of slimness...that rules him out of him ever seeing me naked again...I want to be stronggggggg (though not pumped...but obviously YOU understand the difference ) x
Prefer to see bones?! Whoa, glad he's an ex boyf0 -
I think your boyfriend was being silly. Of course women can be buff. I actually thought all three women you post looked fine. Keep in mind the last women was in competitive shape and obviously does not maintain that low of a level of body fat year round. Aside from the rare (genetic or juiced) extreme female body builder that look more male than female (rare exception, most female body builders actually look very feminine), it's all good.
Personally, when a woman can look super fit, it's definitely impressive because it is much hard to achieve given the genders carry body fat. For a guy, it is just way easier. I mean our essential body fat can go below 5%, that's just not fair.
By the way, I thought your "plank" demonstration between the two boats in your profile is pretty impressive.
I think it was more of a "women SHOULDN'T be buff. But its disappointing that when you tell someone you are looking to get "buff" the automatic image seems to be a body builder woman with huge pecs and quads.
Thanks for the plank compliment lol. Crazy things happen when alcohol and a sombrero meet, hopefully this year I will have the same pic with a better body! lol0 -
The only thing that bothers me about the super toned women, like the one in the second picture posted, Is that you can see the veins in her abdomen.. thats a bit of a "too far" point for me. but muscle definition is definitly one of my goals0
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100%, but even if desired to look like a body builder my boyfriend's only response should be "get it done!" because it isn't his body and I'm not looking for approval of men, I'm looking for self approval.
Unfortunately, what anyone's response "should" be is entirely out of your control.
So, hopefully he and you make peace with your decision to do what YOU want to do for you 0 -
I agree ^^ Staci looks great, really toned without losing her feminine side. For me, the pics you posted are just a little too far on the muscular side, but I totally support you wanting to do it - it's about being what you want to be and pushing yourself to get there.
I love seeing pics of celebs where their legs are really defined (think Gywnneth Paltrow when she went workout crazy for Iron Man) with a great curve above the knee, and their arms are taut and shapely. For me, some of Madonna's pics are a bit scary these days, especially her arms, but again, it's personal preference.
Go for it! Looking forward to seeing your before and after pics
Personally Madonna looks like a skeleton with muscles. I think her definition makes her look older than she is but that's what SHE wants so it doesn't matter.
I just wish everyone could get to their end point without someone having to add their two cents but I guess...
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100%, but even if desired to look like a body builder my boyfriend's only response should be "get it done!" because it isn't his body and I'm not looking for approval of men, I'm looking for self approval.
Unfortunately, what anyone's response "should" be is entirely out of your control.
So, hopefully he and you make peace with your decision to do what YOU want to do for you
ETA: It's going to be interesting to get my husband's reaction and acceptance (or lack of...) of my new physique when I get further into my strength training program and leangains IF'ing protocol. Wonder if he'll divorce me? 0 -
I personally don't like the boney look
Lean and mean is good
I don't like to much muscle to me these women are scary
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I'm going to pass on judging other women by their looks and what I think of them.
Get out there- get strong- live big and bold. Who gives a crap what other people think? You want to deadlift 300lbs? GREAT! You want to be an elite runner? GREAT! You want to learn how to eat without emotionally attaching to food? GREAT!
As long as the destination is upward- anything you do is positive. It beats staying where we are.0 -
I wish when I was 22 I had the same goal as you. I was young and just didn't care.
Go for it! You're gonna be a super babe!
Thanks Jennifer. I figure that I was never the "hot" skinny girl in high school, but I could be the hot fit and healthy girl as I graduate college.
oh yes you can!!!
I'm a mom and almost 33. I'd really like to look like your inspiration pic. I'd be a MILF! :laugh:0 -
I wish when I was 22 I had the same goal as you. I was young and just didn't care.
Go for it! You're gonna be a super babe!
Thanks Jennifer. I figure that I was never the "hot" skinny girl in high school, but I could be the hot fit and healthy girl as I graduate college.
oh yes you can!!!
I'm a mom and almost 33. I'd really like to look like your inspiration pic. I'd be a MILF! :laugh:
Oh you can too. 33 is still young. And don't we all strive to be a MILF. LOL.0 -
I'm going to pass on judging other women by their looks and what I think of them.
Get out there- get strong- live big and bold. Who gives a crap what other people think? You want to deadlift 300lbs? GREAT! You want to be an elite runner? GREAT! You want to learn how to eat without emotionally attaching to food? GREAT!
As long as the destination is upward- anything you do is positive. It beats staying where we are.
^^^This
For me its about strength and experiencing the joy of athleticism. At 43 I couldnt care less if someone thinks I am hot or not anymore. I want a strong body that can do things like rock climb and kayak and perform martial arts.
72 year old woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1BCzZBMMd0&feature=related
86 year old woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9baGr99bvA&feature=related
74 year old started working out at 56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eae3_LDysY8&feature=related 0 -
Simply do what makes you happy. Get to a level of muscularity that you see fit. You live in your body and only you.
I've had enough people look at me and say why do you want to look like that, yuck veins are ugly but it matters not. I like what I see in the mirror and the people actually matter in my life see all the effort in and they commend that effort.
As for too toned etc, IMO its simply only for you to judge - 1/3 of the people in the UK are obese, should I go out and point what I think about that look? No its out of order and the same should apply. After all the average person being 2 stone overweight is hardly feminine is it?0 -
I'm going to pass on judging other women by their looks and what I think of them.
Get out there- get strong- live big and bold. Who gives a crap what other people think? You want to deadlift 300lbs? GREAT! You want to be an elite runner? GREAT! You want to learn how to eat without emotionally attaching to food? GREAT!
As long as the destination is upward- anything you do is positive. It beats staying where we are.
^^^This
For me its about strength and experiencing the joy of athleticism. At 43 I couldnt care less if someone thinks I am hot or not anymore. I want a strong body that can do things like rock climb and kayak and perform martial arts.
72 year old womanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1BCzZBMMd0&feature=related
86 year old womanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9baGr99bvA&feature=related
74 year old started working out at 56http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eae3_LDysY8&feature=related
OMG! They don't look their age at all!!!!0 -
I wish when I was 22 I had the same goal as you. I was young and just didn't care.
Go for it! You're gonna be a super babe!
Thanks Jennifer. I figure that I was never the "hot" skinny girl in high school, but I could be the hot fit and healthy girl as I graduate college.
oh yes you can!!!
I'm a mom and almost 33. I'd really like to look like your inspiration pic. I'd be a MILF! :laugh:
Oh you can too. 33 is still young. And don't we all strive to be a MILF. LOL.
Hey hey! And why not strive to be a GILF when we're older! LOL0 -
I can't speak for all guys but for me that is too much - fit and healthy is good but cuddles need to be cosy, not a collision of body parts!Clothed, the second girl probably isn't going to look too much out of the ordinary, maybe just in her thighs. But only the guy (or guys) who sees her in a swimsuit or naked in bed are gonna see the definition...
Do guys honestly find this is too much definition on a woman? Curious.0 -
The word "buff" mean much more heavily muscled (probably even bigger than the second picture) to me. Personally I do want to be a lot fitter and "toned" than I currently am, you've gotta be happy with your body at the end of the day, you're stuck in it 24/7!0
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Agree with the OP and well, is he saying he doesn't like that you do tom boy things? Don't ket him change you and stop you doing the things you love x 0
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remember those girls are in mid-flex. Bet you relaxed they look super toned and hot. OP ... there's nothing wrong with wanting to be buff. Perhaps your bf is worried you'll be stronger than him!0
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I think the fact that we're similar height worries him if I were to get his definition of "buff". Maybe he thinks I'd be able to whip his @$$. Which, when we were both skinnier we would wrestle all the time and I put up some pretty damn good fights IMO lol
Anyway, all of this means a lot to me. I know what I want and now I just need to go after it. All of you have wonderful things to say and interpretations of what people look like. I of course know that I shouldn't care what other people think, and as much as I would like to not admit it, I do care what people think of me (sometimes). If they think I have a jerk of an attitude they can piss off but if they think I'm flabby and nasty then I'm going to show them just how amazing I can look, if that amazing means they dont like my muscles, that's fine, I'll just punch them in the nose! ahahaha jk jk
I'm getting healthy so that if a disease should unfortunately strike me later in life I will be able to fight it as hard as I can. My grandfather had a quadruple bypass at a rather young age and then he passed of heart failure in his late fifties/early sixties. My other grandfather and grandmother passed from horrible cancers. I refuse to sit on the couch and succumb to disease and if that means getting my @$$ to the gym then I might as well get sculpted!0 -
Hey it's nice to see other women trying to increase your overall health-not just trying to be tiny.I really want to meet more friends that are working on overall health,energy,strength.I am very strong and do lift weights-it is not my main focus,I do not want to be ripped or compete in weightlifting.I am not focused on what the scales say as much as how I feel and inches lost.0
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I completely agree! I think that being buff as in toned is both completely healthy and sexy. Being a bodybuilder is not in my mind for girls, you WANT to look like a girl, not a guy with a girls head stuck on. Do what you want with your body; it is YOURS, remember, not anyone else's, including your boyfriend's.0
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Even the first 2 pictures are a little too buff for my liking. Eek.0
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Not my cup of tea but I'm totally cool with other women striving to look like that :drinker: best of luck! Stay dedicated and you will achieve your goals.0
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Let's not neglect BF percentage. If these women had a higher BF % you wouldn't necessarily say they are "too" buff. I have a sizeable amount of lean mass (117-118 lb on a 5'2 frame). I have muscles as a result of genetics and a short stint bulking and heavy lifting. If my body fat gets low enough, I could look like those women (I would hope). My goal is to look like an athlete, but retain some fat for softness. So 18-19% is what I shoot for.
I love the body of the women in the first pic
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damn those women look hot, nothing like a woman that can handle herself, i like a woman that's toned and don't get turned off if she lifts big either!!0
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I definitely think I'm buff and my husband finds it pretty attractive. Honestly I wouldn't want to be with a man who didn't.
The difference between the women you posted is body fat percentage NOT muscle size or strength. The first lady is probably 18% while the second is probably 12%. So lift away, just keep some fat.0
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